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As the thread title say. The thread is about "DRIVERS & SUPPORT FOR LAPTOPS & DESKTOPS (Intel, Nvidia and AMD).

Fanboys will eat everything. Even increased costs which provide you nothing! Of course the HW manufacturers will take an advantage of it. The desktop world isn’t any different than the Jokebooks word. This is just sad. https://www.techspot.com/review/2462-amd-radeon-6750xt/ And should you wait for 4090 Ti that Nvidia will most likely offer later (refresh/milking?) a year before next gen 5000 series cards pop up? Could be since they probably will release the cards a bit earlier than the normal. Isn't it nice? 3090Ti K|ngp|n cards is barely out and we may see the 4000 series cards (4090 rumored to offer 90% higher performance vs 3090Ti) well within 3-6 months. I expect it's a golden opportunity for Nvidia to give the 4000 series cards a real price hike if they at same time continue produce and sell 3000 series cards. Rumors say that Nvidia will continue with 3000 cards forwards to help the gamers to have a chance to buy cards. I rather think they will use this opportunity to puh the MSRP higher than ever for next gen cards. Isn't this what we call Greed ? https://www.techpowerup.com/294910/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-twice-as-fast-as-rtx-3090-features-16128-cuda-cores-and-450w-tdp https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-with-16128-cuda-cores-and-450w-tdp-is-allegedly-twice-as-fast-as-rtx-3090

Use the bot or Notebookcheck info page to check where it stack up. You have still headroom for improvements. Can add this into bro Fox post.... Use an Macrium backup and save your current OS setup and then test out different Windows versions. All depends on how much time you are willing to put into it 🙂 https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_11800h/ - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-11800H-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.525586.0.html

Yep, if you grind on what you have there is often some headroom for improvements. Sometimes you improve some of the sub tests and lose on others. Then back you go. Get everything better is what drives you forwards. This is more as looking on the same old film several times. But it has to be a film you enjoy🙂 Broke +39000 in 3DM 11 Physics but this isn't valid for 3Dmark. It’s what it is. This one is valid for Hall of Fame, but I didn't get the best total score... Grabbed 3rd place in 3DM11 Entry for GTX 1070 with a "huge margin" of 4 points 🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/4997025_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_42914_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/4997028_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_28669_marks

You didn't list what OS you use. But the last two months patches from Microsoft have been a huge mess. Read more about it in the Win OS section. My best bet... This comes from Windows buggy patches.

Yep, important to show up some improvements/news for the buyers so close into next gen cards…. Only 2 weeks and we are in June. I could understand it if this was done for a new gen cards. But not a refreshment on a soon 2 years old graphics chips/architecture. This reminds me too much of AMDs game bundle to sell out their stocks of cards to stop the price drop. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-4000-series-could-be-launched-earlier-than-initially-anticipated.619820.0.html

Windows 11 KB5013943 is crashing PCs with BSOD, antivirus firm Sophos warns Windowslatest.com Mayank Parmar - May 15, 2022 The problems introduced by Windows 11 KB5013943 (May 2022 Patch Tuesday) are pretty serious: it's crashing computers with Blue Screen of Death if they rely on certain drivers required for apps like antivirus.... This cumulative update was released to fix a number of issues and bugs in Windows 11, however, it seems like Windows 11 KB5013943 is causing the dreaded Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) on some systems with specific drivers, including those that support antivirus software. The problem is also present in the update for those using Windows 10, but it’s worse on Windows 11. To fix the BSOD errors, Sophos recommends uninstalling the update by following these steps: Pause Windows updates to prevent the update from installing. Select Start > Settings > Windows Update. Pause updates for 7 days. Open Control Panel. Click Programs And Features. Click View installed updates Look for KB5013943 and uninstall it. And Microsoft will also make the life harder for the Windows admins. Bad and buggy messed up patches ain't enough. Windows admins frustrated by Quick Assist moving to Microsoft Store Windows admins have been expressing their dismay at Microsoft's decision to move the Quick Assist remote assistance tool to the Microsoft Store....

Yep, there is still headroom for improvements. At least if we continue bench with Win 7🙂 with Win 10/11 it will be a huge failure. But it will be hard grabbing 1th place without better cooling, HeHe. And as always, nice scores bro John.

They added a clock speed cap for the memory. Darn disgusting. And they can make better cooling if they want. This is Jokebook design decisions behaviour. Aka make it half-baked then improve a bit on the refresh. Yep.....

I checked that Direct Die kit from Supercomputer. From what I can see from the pict the fins looks quite ok. So most likely a contact issue. But not so sure you'll get equal good results as you got with your previous kit for the older Cpu with an perfect coldplate. It need radical better results to match that. Have you seen others results for the kit for 12th gen? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The bot is down as usual. Second time within 2 days. So I couldn't post the new scores from my old stuff. But I'll grab an 3rd and 4th place in 3DM Cloud Gate and 3DM11 Entry when I get it posted🙂 https://www.3dmark.com/cg/4892136 - https://hwbot.org/submission/4996606_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_1070_77715_marks https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14977975 - https://hwbot.org/submission/4996602_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_42748_marks And will get an 6th place in 3DM 11 Performance. But got an good Physics score https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14978010 - https://hwbot.org/submission/4996599_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_28615_marks The others on the bot top ranking use TESS and LOD tweaks (Not valid on 3DM). Hence I'm alone on the top on Futuremark leaderbord for 1070. Better than nothing, LOOL Not bad with an AIO.... (Splave benched with LN2 and 7GHz and only gained an 7.6% lead)🙂 https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/3dmark+11+physics+score/version+1.0.132

Plus it will we easier for Dell to sell parts to the average Joe when they need parts. Of course within the obligatory/extended Premium support warranty periode. Outside that window, you are pretty screwed if you need Dell parts for you pc/laptop that have an expired warranty. This is worst of both worlds. Screwed + forced to pay premium. Can't beat that combo... Can it?

Have you tested the contact point/pressure between die and the cold plate with only a layer of LM on the die? Maybe a pressure/contact problem.

And you have similar problems to the Dell graphics cards. The proprietary bridge connector between the DGFF (Dell Graphics Form Factor) card and the MB is a very weak and flimsy constrution. A lot people had to swap it with a new one after they took out the graphics card for replacing the thermal pads. Proprietary design sucks. And it is more dificult to find used.

I think the graph tells everything. See also the blue boxes. And global economy is in stormy weather so..... Techspot.com | May 12, 2022 ROLLERCOASTER Crypto crash: ~$1 trillion wiped off markets as Bitcoin hits low point

From the artcle posted below.... 25% isn't far from 33% who is 1/3 of all graphics cards sold. At the same time last year, it was estimated that approximately 25 percent of partner manufacturers' graphics cards go directly to miners . That interest has now cooled, at least according to one of Asus's CEO SY Hsu . During a meeting where the company's financial results were presented, Hsu explained that the recent price reductions are related to the fact that the demand for graphics cards for breaking cryptocurrencies has decreased. Asus: "Miners' interest in graphics cards has cooled" According to Asus' CEO, lower graphics card prices are associated with reduced profitability and extinguished demand for graphics cards for mining.

This just show how important miners was both for Nvidia and AMD. Their only chance to push prices well above MSRP for next gen cards is to limit supply. But not so sure they want to do that. At least not nvidia who don't need the silicon for Cpu's as AMD. Better try sell twice as many cards than push out less cards to keep up disgusting prices. We will see when the fall come... There is pressure on the Global economy (worse times for everybody now - and it will last) so not so sure it will be easy try trick people into new very expensive gear. At least not if they try put prices where they never should be. Wish we could know the truth about how many graphics cards nvidia+AMD and its partners have thrown out to the miners. This outside the retail channels. We will probably never ever get the real numbers. AMD Prepares New "Raise The Game" Bundle - Rushing to Counter Falling Card Prices https://www.anandtech.com/show/17386/amd-prepares-new-raise-the-game-bundle

May 10, 2022—KB5013941 (OS Build 17763.2928) Windows 10 servicing stack update - 17763.2865 Prerequisite: You must install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU. CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.2928 — KB5013941 May 10, 2022-KB5013868 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019 NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013626-x64-ndp48_e2b4283a00b2e97030507f071c3ecc6a2a352064.msu NDP35-472 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013641-x64_5cf245f52876a8a50a7155fada0245c6d0533bfb.msu

Nope. They tried fix bugs they introduced with previous monthly patch (where they tried fix problems that occured with programs that use .NET Framework 3.5). Of course they screwed up this time as well.. That's the usual from the Redmond based monkey company. Nothing unusual here🙂 Windows 11 update KB5012643 also broke ancient DirectX 9 on "certain GPUs" https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-update-kb5012643-also-broke-ancient-directx-9-on-certain-gpus/ Isn't it cute.... Cancer meet cancer bro @Ashtrix @Mr. Fox Is there something that's called double Cancer? 🙃 KB5013943 May 2022 update is crashing apps on Windows 11 Mayank Parmar - May 11, 2022 0 If you installed the May 2022 cumulative update on Windows 11, you might have noticed that many of the apps you use all the time aren't working as they used to

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This is one of many things why I buy MB etc from known retail stores here home and not those Norwegian webstores that sell it a few bucks cheaper because they have parallel import from abroad (offer all taxes included). None of their items/parts/repair is located here in Norway. So it's much easier to deal with a real webstore with good reputation. And this is why I don't want buy similar items from other countries webstores or even from EVGA abroud. I would be without my new and shiny at least a couple of months each time something breaks. That would sucks. But I'm sure you find your way out of this mess. Sad when it happens, but who know... You could have been lucky and everything have worked first time. Good luck bro John. Kick them in the balls.

FYI. Windows update offer also firmware updates. Dell is very keen to offer firmware updates via Microsoft servers. Same also for Lenovo and other brands. Here's one thread of many "9570 BIOS update appearing via Windows Update"

OEMs can keep overheating at bay with firmware, drivers and software. 100C for Cpu and +80C for the GPU is just fine. Just ask an Dell HW engineer. Throttling due overheating is an feature and not a bug. Features like Dynamic boost 2.0/AMD's SmartShift technology will help the OEM to further to reach their goal and achieve Apple's modern laptop chassis design. Push you over on newer laptops before time as etc offer untapped performance due their crippling is a smart move to increase/keep up the profits. Features as mentioned above is the OEMS golden ticket to try compete with Apple regarding tomorrows laptop design. Design over functionality will always cater to the average Joe. What is Nvidia Dynamic Boost 2.0? | Trusted Reviews What is AMD SmartShift? | Windows Central

Be happy you don't have to pay Gas prices we have in Norway. We are a big oil nation but have one of the most ugly prices for Gas in the world. U.S. Gas prices is also topic here home now. Maybe to justify even higher prices in the coming months. https://finansavisen-no.translate.goog/nyheter/bil/2022/05/10/7864050/bensinpriser-stiger-til-ny-rekord-igjen?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We will see more refined throttling algorithms and an even harder working dynamic boost feature that let the GPU or the Cpu have first priority on cooling. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-12th-gen-alder-lake-hx-cpus-more-cores-features And we may see new ways to differenciate the OEMS. Up to the different OEM what features they will offer. The HX chips come with an castrated iGPU so now they can charge more for the lap-jokes for those that don't want pay premium for their ARC Gpu. Maybe they also can stop people from fiddeling with an eGPU? https://www.anandtech.com/show/17376/intel-launches-alder-lake-hx-series-processors-for-highend-laptops#:~:text=Thunderbolt 4 support is not baked into this platform%3B like its desktop counterpart%2C Thunderbolt is an optional feature here. Adding Thunderbolt requires using a discrete controller (up to two)%2C so it will be left up to laptop vendors to implement their own configurations and designs. Edit: PS. The HX series ain't as the best option for gaming. Probably because the new Cpu's will clock down lower than the HK chips due the more cores and the higher power consumption. The amazing Dynamic boost feature that "share the power/cooling budget between Cpu and Gpu) easly killed this new chips as an better gaming chips. Intel's Alder Lake-HX CPUs are official, with support for PCIe 5.0, DDR5, and overclocking The company also provided a quick overview of gaming performance. For now, we'll have to take Intel's word for it, but it doesn't look like the new CPU series will disappoint. However, the company did note that H-series Alder Lake CPUs will remain the fastest mobile processors for gaming for a while yet, so in terms of performance-per-dollar, you may want to opt for a laptop with Alder Lake-H. Btw. The forum is very sluggish and slow. And something has to be done with easier edit the posts. Same also for adding more quotes in same posts afterwards. Not sure what I do wrong but couldn't easy put the post about the new sick BGA opton under Tenoroo quote. Hence it is put under bro Fox reply.

I expect he would put in Win 11 over 10 if the article was from today.... Not so sure he could imagine that Microsoft would go even further and release something even worse. BTW, Win 11 is mainly created and designed around tablets and 2 in 1 touch-books. Built from (on top of) Windows 10x. Windows 10 & 8 Worst OS EVER Been made from Microsoft............

The only difference between Win 11 and Win 8.1 is that the older OS is usable for 2 or 3 benchmarks. There is nothing to gain from Win 11. Not so sure Win 11 is so much better out of the box🙃 But thanks for the answer. This reminds me a lot about another company's VP. Dell Alienware also went for a woman. Not the big boss for Dell but she is the boss for Dell's gaming brand. Frank Azor gets a successor: Vivian Lien becomes new VP og Dell and Alienware brand