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You plan to go water, air cooler doesn't matter at all.

They're all going to perform nearly identical which is why I said get the cheapest. Should be able to X-Flash any higher power limit without issue to all cards with NvflashK. Those thermal pads on the FE are by design, they are soft/compressible pads for a reason. Nvidia thermal engineer actually did an amazing tear down with GN on this cooler when the 40 series came out. Dude was super into his job and thermal performance. And you can see just how well the FE card does compared to even the might Strix in this chart that compares all 4080 Super cards reviewed. The FE does a phenomenal job. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4080-super-strix/39.html Best Buy sold out of all cards, Newegg has 1 remaining card (SOLD OUT) and my local MC seems to be moving stock at a high click. I'd say this is one of Nvidia's best launches. That 20% price reduction seems to have swayed quite a few would be upgraders. I'll use TechPowerUp FE review conclusion here. Pricing & Alternatives NVIDIA has set an MSRP of $1000 for the RTX 4080 Super and that's the real innovation here. Compared to the current $1200 for the RTX 4080 non-Super, this introduces a significant 20% discount. I have to applaud NVIDIA for that, especially, considering that there's not much competition in this segment. AMD is happy with their $970 price point for the 7900 XTX, but that changes today. RTX 4080 Super at $1000 means that RX 7900 XTX becomes unsellable unless its price is lowered considerably. The RTX 4080 Super offers superior RT performance, similar raster perf and support for DLSS—exactly what people in the premium segment are looking for. Even at $900 I'm not sure if I'd prefer 7900 XTX over a $1000 4080 Super, it's just a 10% delta. Still, $1000 is definitely not a steal for the RTX 4080 Super and what it offers—the 2024 GPU market is still expensive. If you want to save a bit of money, probably the most interesting alternative is RX 7900 XT, which currently sells for $710, but is considerably slower, which means lower detail settings or upscaling, but there's no DLSS on the card to help with that. NVIDIA has confirmed that the RTX 4080 non-Super is now end-of-life. You could potentially get a card at a good price; anything $950 and below is what I'd call "interesting." If it's higher, go for the Super model, also for its better resale value. If you really must have the best, then the RTX 4090 is what you want—that hasn't changed with the release of the RTX 4080 Super, but be prepared to pay for it: +80% for an almost 30% increase in performance is tough. At the end of the day, RTX 4080 Super is disappointing in terms of the changes it brings, but it redeems itself thanks to its greatly improved pricing. While I'm sure there will be a lot of drama about the minimal gains, what the GPU market really needs is lower prices, not marginally better performance for the same price. In this regard, the RTX 4080 Super can be considered a success.

It's simple. 4090 $1599 More money more faster. 4080 $999 Less money less faster.

Awesome! It does look like a slick card. Same PCB design as FE, similar cooling with vapor chamber, etc. Same lack of dual BIOS lol, but meh. Honestly it was the only card I was considering outside of the FE. Good luck in the VRAM silicon lottery! Let's hope we can punch it! Pretty awesome they used 24gbps vram but only running them 23. I was more worried it was a simple factory OC.

BB has been restocking, and will continue to do so throughout the day. I would get the FE. It's in stock now. Edit: You can cancel the NE order by chatting with them. I've done it many times as long as it hasn't "shipped" yet.

Grabbed a 4080 Super FE for $999 and free overnight shipment from Best Buy. The price cut has made the card a good offering. Looks like 4080 Super is actually using 24gbps spec vram even though they're shipping with 23gbps speed. All cards seem to be using this when looking at the chips on the teardowns at tech power up. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/43.html 4080 FE Super gained 8% with overclock. Pretty nice.

https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-rtx-4090-super-and-rtx-titan-could-be-back-on-the-menu-because-rtx-5000-gpus-might-slide-to-2025 If they drop an RTX Titan, dang. 48gb and full core with huge cache. That would be a monster gaming GPU. Probably monster price at $2500 easily. Intel LGA 1700 not dead yet? New refresh inbound later this year along side Arrow Lake? https://videocardz.com/newz/budget-focused-bartlett-lake-s-reportedly-intels-fourth-desktop-lga-1700-cpu-series

$999 4080S and wait for 5090. Pray to gods you get good GDDR6X 23gbps that can crank to around 26+. Should make for a very decent chip to ride out this gen. Will blow your old 3090 away in every single way and offer lower power consumption. Hopefully another 4080 XOC vBIOS leaks. Alternatively you could pick up a 4080 used, and flash the XOC vBIOS to it. That XOC vBIOS can do 1250mV. With chilled water, that would be fun. A real XOC vBIOS leaked, something that hasn't happened for the even the mightly 4090.

@tps3443 Just 1 RTX 4090 in my house. I have a Strix OC I got on day one before I found out that isn't necessary anymore.

They're fools lol. Let them pay for it while someone smarter will just buy the MSRP 4080S and blow it's doors off. @tps3443 I'm planning on testing a 4080S as well. I hope I hate it so I don't keep it lol. I sold my 4070 Ti Super today after being pretty underwhelmed with the performance difference between it and my 4070S.

I would easily give up 2% at 1440p and 7% at 4K raster perf over the 7900 XT all day long. DLSS, RT, and FG on Nvidia are all better. FSR is still terrible. Not to mention the significant power savings over the AMD cards. I still really like the 4070 Super though. Get it, or get the 4080 Super if upgrading today unless you need that VRAM.

100% wait for 4080 Super. Try not to overpay, they all can be flashed and use the same power limits. Especially if you're considering going H20.

Yes they flash without issue. I've flashed a 4090 FE to the OG 1.1v FE vBIOS. Flashed my 4070 Super FE to various vBIOS as well. I have never had an issue flashing over the years or bricked a GPU. It certainly is more risky flashing with a single vBIOS but I've never had an issue. As long as you have a backup GPU or iGPU, you should be able to boot into windows and still recover from a bad flash. Unfortunately FE cards now use a weird vBIOS chip that cannot be flashed directly with a test clip/usb. You'd be hosed if you somehow bricked it. I always do things with the understanding I won't mess with something I don't feel comfortable replacing if I screw something up.

Yes I flashed my 4070 Super FE with the Gigabyte/Aorus 350w vBIOS. 240w just wasn't enough for benchmarking. For gaming, 240w was no issue even for 4K gaming. The card is very efficient. I didn't have any issues with it running the gigabyte vBIOS. I lost a bit of fan speed, but nothing I cared about. I don't usually run 100% fans. You don't need a hardware flasher. Just use Nvflash64K and command prompt as admin. Make a backup copy of your vBIOS first, obviously. Newest GPU-Z can read the new GPUs for vBIOS copy or use Nvflash to back it up with -b. https://github.com/notfromstatefarm/nvflashk nvflash64k -6 rtx4070super.rom or whatever the name of the rom file is. It will ask you to type YES in all caps. YES again. Hit Y. and it will flash. then reboot and wait for the Nvidia driver to reenable itself.

Looks like 4090 stock is normalizing again though. My local MCs have plenty in stock at normal pricing again. Strix tariff still in place at $1999 for OC model.

Hey sorry I misspoke, it was indeed pulling 285w. I'm using a 320w vBIOS from galax now. Oddly enough the cores on my card is just weak sauce. Could be the vBIOS, could be just it doesn't scale well. It's one sample. Highest I've gotten on PR is 16.8K and it pulled around 300-310w. So it would seem around 300w would be ideal for the card in most situations. Will have to try new drivers tomorrow.

Absolutely ridiculous. I actually looked into Linux yesterday after reading about some of your successes with gaming on that platform. I've only briefly tried Linux way back in 2012 and I'm sure a lot has changed since then. I might install it on another drive to test out and learn.

Honestly I don't want them know my discovery and their oversight lol. 🤠 I'll gladly share it with you privately but not sure how much use it would be. Actually might be useful for those running custom situations.

Got my 4070 Ti Super working. Severely power limited at 280w default. It's sitting right at 280w and core throttling. Time to flash it. Stock Still severely power limited at 280w but with OC at 4K/G-Sync On and not using ReBar.

Hardware Unboxed video is completely scuffed. Wrong SPECs for card in the video? They also used the MSI Ventus card with a bunked vBIOS, even after being told it had a faulty vBIOS. Instead of redoing the video with updated vBIOS or using a different card, they went with the screwed card and claimed it's only 1%. That isn't even close to true. You can see this in by looking at TPU which published a lot of 4070 Ti Super card reviews and it's clear, the MSI is on average 6-7% slower across the board vs other brand 4070 Ti Super cards. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-ventus-3x/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-tuf/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-verto-oc/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-ex-white/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/palit-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-jetstream-oc/

Was available online last Friday at a retailer I use regularly, I bought it and it arrived this morning from FedEx 😀 Honestly I was pretty shocked when I saw the "shipped" and a FedEx tracking # arrive in my email so quickly. That said, even with modded INF driver, the card runs essentially in a low usage state until official driver support arrives for gaming. But for creators and professional use, the card runs full tilt and produces normal performance. It's very odd, anyone have any ideas on how to bypass this limitation? I can run games/benchmarks but they run hella slow or produce less than half the expected result. I modded the setup file for the latest driver, disabled driver enforcement and installed without issue. But like I said, it won't run properly in games. It shows up fine in device manager, NVControl panel all works properly, even g-sync and pendulum test. Production tasks work and render fine, but gaming or 3D benchmark loads seem to be the issue.

Well I have a serious hardware problem. I need rehab. I have a 4070 Super FE, 4070 Ti Super arrived today (early) and I think I'll grab a 4080 Super FE because why not. I'll keep one and sell the rest. But more toys to play with vs one single 4090 FE.

All clear on mine. What is this supposed to show? Is it an issue with the card if it had logged errors?

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/2760784 Think I got a pretty decent card.

4070 Super delivered today! Beautiful card, honestly awesome looking little card. +2000Mhz to the memory looks to be a go lol! I got the new MSI Afterburner, card locks out at 1115mV on voltage which is nice to see I can push it up a bit. Will test stock vBIOS and then flash unlimited powwah.