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6Ghz out of Raptor Lake with light boost would be cool to see on regular cooling but I don't think were close to 6Ghz all cores anytime soon, or even 5.8ghz unless something has radically improved with Intel "7". For gaming that cache is going to be a nice improvement.. It's double the cache of a 12900K and will definitely help if you're chasing crazy high fps when looking at the sky or blank scenes during a benchmark that can all fit into the cache. I watched the review of the 5800X3D from various outlets this morning and it definitely looks like a great gaming CPU, but a 5600X, 5700x, 12600K, 12700K, etc all perform very similarly in games. They all cost less, and 2 of them offer far higher performance in everything else for less money. I went back and watched a GN review of the 9900K where he basically shits on the 9900K in the conclusion stating that in a nutshell it's a CPU for those that are neurotic over FPS and yet the gap between Intel and AMD was larger back then. Yet today he's basically falling over himself with praise for the 5800X3D that gets absolutely curb stomped in everything not gaming and value. It's hard to take a channel them or HWU seriously with their obvious bias. 5800X3D looks interesting for sure, I wish it was unlocked, I think I'd likely buy one to tinker with, but just like a 12900K/KS, it's a bad value for just gaming.

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-12g-p5-4877-kl/p/N82E16814487553?Item=N82E16814487553 Prices are being slashed all over today. It's great to see the bottom dropping out as the free money ends and the hangover is setting in. Can't wait to pick up a 3060 Ti for $200.

It's locked down, and completely boring to me. I don't think you can even tune the voltage which is crazy. It certainly helps in some games and doesn't as much in others, but were looking at 720p and 1080p results. While completely valid for CPU testing, it starts to make a lot less sense when you consider the chip is $449 and has less multicore performance than a $269 12600K. Which by the way can be overclocked to match a 12900K in gaming for the most part and at stock is shown to be only 6% slower than the 5800X3D AT STOCK. This chip is a Frankenstein failed experiment unless it is sold at a far lower price. It's no wonder why AMD is only doing this single chip and no releasing it for 7000 series. I guess where I can see this chip making more sense is for drop in upgrade for existing AM4. But then why not get a 5900X or 5950x since they're getting so cheap?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/15.html Not the gains I would have hoped for. Backwards progress on multicore and single core performance. You can pay for this experiment or you can buy a 12600K or 12700K

That is a great looking budget build that likely still performs excellent for 1080p gaming even in 2022. Shame it's not supported by Nvidia anymore. I need to do something similar to this soon as I have so many "spare" parts just sitting in boxes. I am waiting for the GPU firesale that is likely going to happen on eBay or OfferUp soon enough. I will grab a good "slightly mined on" GPU to put together a cheap rig. Scary thing with those cables. Fire hazard for sure. I will have to take a look at mine, but I haven't noticed any damage when I was digging around in there last few days.

AMD has some serious ground to make up with Zen 4.

Run for the night. Unfortunately it's not cool outside so cracking the window isn't going to help. Decided to hold this one back for the leaderboard until I need to use it. 🙂

Thanks for confirming! Honestly the thing I'm happiest about with these new chips is the IMC being able to push my mem clocks up. I need a 2 dimm board.

At least I saw that both do have good IMCs. So the more I see the more I'm thinking they may have improved the IMCs. @electrosoft Do you remember what your power consumption was like for 5.3Ghz all cores in CB23? I'm looking at 252w for 5.3/4.0. Not great, not terrible. Working on stabilizing 6800Mhz CL32 now. If I can get this stable I shoot for 7000Mhz.

Similar to SP88 chip. X206D795. It crashed CB20 at 5.1 P cores, no Es, 1.143v. My SP88 does 1.092v and passes no issues. The silicon quality variance is wild on these things. Even my SP92 K can do 1.10v and pass same test. That should have never made it into the KS pile.

Wow my luck is just bad with CPUs lately. My second chip from MC is SP86. How the hell are these "binned". All they did was shove a ton of voltage down this chip and pray someone has a crazy loop to cool it. It will be back at MC in the morning when they open. Possibly both. If it can't run stock on a 360mm AIO without thermal throttling then it's not an acceptable chip.

Thanks! Tested my 12900K SP92 again, and even on this newest BIOS the IMC is total shit compared to my 12900KS. Can barely post 6667, instant BSOD upon windows load. My 12900KS didn't even BSOD with 7000Mhz, I just wasn't able to get it stable yet. I am keeping the KS I have, and will return the new/old depending on which one is better. I have a feeling the new KS chips have improved IMCs looking at what you got with your Hero board too. I'm going to bring it with me just in case they won't let me purchase a second one since it's "limit 1 per household".

Batch and Vietnam or China? Headed to MC to exchange

This guy does a pretty good job of explaining how to enable it. I've tested in both Superposition and Port Royal and both produced increased performance. Green Goblin holding out.

Ahh damn, you can use Nvidia Inspector to force rebar support in games/benchmarks where Nvidia has not officially enabled support simply by using the profiles.

Add about 10 points to that KS over a K. You lucky SOB! LOL. I hate you. That settles it, I am exchanging this chip in the morning. This is my shitty SP88 KS doing 5.1 with same voltage as you cherry SP98 chip. Ignore the temps, I am using a crap graphite pad for testing and it lets the chip warm up a bit.

That is just on a couple cores. I am using TVB +1 in the BIOS. Under load it was doing 5.3Ghz. The chip does seem decent and am I really happy with the IMC on this chip. Blows my mind how much better it is over my old K. Are you using Resizeable Bar/Forcing it via Inspector? You can pick up a couple hundred points right there. I just learned this trick recently. Benchmarkers hate him. I think I also got pretty lucky in the lottery on this GPU chip. It does 2220-2205mhz locked in the entire run on the freaking air cooler. Of course it's a redesigned cooler with a vapor chamber so that definitely helps.

Best run so far. Had to snag that crown back.

Sorry to hear about your Unify-X. I would not expect same memory tuning that you are getting with that Unify-X though. The 2-dimm boards are king. I wish I had one with this chip now though. I should easily be able to push 7000+ Mhz.

Using a KS right now. I picked it up this morning after getting home from a few days in Phoenix. I didn't get a great chip, SP88 on latest BIOS. 😐 It's better than my SP92 K but not by much from initial testing. I need better cooling though. I can run 5Ghz P cores and 4Ghz E cores synced (yes underclocked) at -100mV and that puts me around 1.066v load and draws 183w Package for around 28.4K CB23. Where this chip looks to shine for me is the IMC. I can boot 7000Mhz CL32 on my Hero board. Previously I topped at 6600Mhz. Now I can run 6800Mhz stable it seems which is crazy for a 4 dimm board. So the IMC does seem to be improved. That said I am likely going back in the morning to grab a different sample. I will keep the best one and return the other. SP88 is already low tier from what I've seen, but K and KS SP scores cannot be compared directly at all.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/aida64-hints-intels-return-to-hedt-market-with-alder-lake-x HEDT soon?

How much for the 3060 Ti? Also which mATX board?

I did the Ultra. Honestly should have just grabbed the black. They are “binned” according to EVGA Jacob but who know how much binning that is. I will say mine boosts crazy good at stock but that seems to be the case for all Ti chips. My guess is these are the cream of the crop chips from Nvidia to hit the Ti spec. My power consumption is actually really good as well from what I’ve compared to. But for just gaming the Black is the best bet. It’s also a metal black plate. It’s a redesign cooler and card. The vapor chamber is awesome, low memory and die temps in mid 60s for both overclocked. They also used actual thermal pads instead of that crap paste mess. Will make it easier for GPU cooler swap or repaste. This looks awesome. Will try when I get home from a trip.

Punched 16K but still chasing @johnksss crazy bin KPE.

@ryan If you setup your ThrottleStop like this you can set any value into the Long/Short PL2 and PL1 values then hit apply. It will bypass the crap HP "adaptive" power limit crap they use and let you get significantly higher CPU performance. You need to use the Honeywell PTM 7950 stuff to keep it nice and cool though. But these settings will stop it from power throttling down.