Raiderman

They're both carbons. One is the b650 carbon, the other is a x670e carbon. The 670 has pcie 5, but is $150 more. In all my AMD builds I've used the X** series chipsets. The only B series I've used is the one I have currently (B350) (freebie). (Stupid motherboard prices.)

Question for the super geeks ( I am only a mega geek) 🙂 Is PCIE 5 of any benefit at this time? The reason I am asking, is because I have since canceled my build order place on the 25th of December, (4) times. Mostly because I dont like the original motherboard choice I had. Plus I really dont want to spend $1000 on one that used to cost 75% less a short 3 years ago. I am ony Ive narrowed it down to these two choices. I am going with MSI purely for the fact that canonkong at winRaid recommends them for Windows 7 installation.

Wow, they lowered it to MSRP? Arent we lucky 😂

GN really hates the 4070Ti.

This is stupid also....for a card that is quite a bit slower than a 7900xt. Msrp for a 7900xt is $899

I'm looking for a card for my new build. The last cards I've actually purchased...in order 1080ti ftw, 2070ti, Radeon VII, then got out of it, and back in with the current 6600xt. Last generation prices have not really come down either. If the 4070ti was anywhere near msrp, I may have thought hard about getting one.

It's bull****, I've been purchasing from Newegg since they opened. They need to step up and do the right thing. $1000 from Newegg for a 4070ti???? seriously!

This is so stupid.....I guess I chose the wrong time to get back into PC tech. Newegg is pissing me off, as I've noticed that with many of their gpu's, they allow up to 20 per order....so scalpers can purchase hundreds under different names, then resell them back on Newegg's site. Should always be a limit of 2!

Thanks for the detailed reply bro 👍

So the added FPS with ray tracing enabled is worth $200 extra? Every test I have seen the 4080 is quite a bit slower in rasterization than the xtx. Just curious, because ray tracing was really only a gimmick when first introduced, Has that changed? Does it make much of a difference?

So answer me this..... If cryptodicking is really down, who TF is buying all the GPU's? Is it scalpers? If it is, are any of the retailers going to curtail this? This is stupid. Are the days gone when you felt you needed an upgrade, then going to your favorite reseller site, and buying on that day? At this rate, I may never get another card, unless it is a lower tier card. If its scalpers causing the shortage, this is worse than it was 4 years ago, at least you could find something at MSRP.

What prices did they have?

At this point, all we can hope is the market gets over saturated to the point where sales drop enough to warrant a healthy price cut. Unfortunately this will probably coincide with a 2008 type housing crash that I think is looming on the horizon. Hopefully we can get some good deals this spring.

What are you referring to when you say BB? I am assuming its Best Buy? Or is it something else? Just curious who has a 7900xtx in stock?

Take it with a grain of salt....it is wccftech afterall. https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-4070-ti-official-benchmarks-leak-out-as-fast-as-the-rtx-3090-ti-but-40-of-the-msrp/ ...and still overpriced! The article almost congratulates Nvidia for having a $799 upper mid tier card? Tying to normalize this crap??

One of the best comments I've read in quite a while...😁

Nearly everything gets a bad grade for pricing. https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gpu-2023/

I don't think it's inflation so much as it is greed. DDR ram isn't all that expensive, quality 8 and 12 core cpu's aren't too bad. SSD pricing isn't overwhelming. After being out of pc tech for 3 years, it's motherboards and gpu's that I've seen skyrocket in cost. When I left, you could get a top of the line AMD board for under $300, now they are 3 times that.

If we could get the 🤡's to abstain from purchasing these cards at these ridiculous prices, that would be great. Edit: I'd buy a 4070Ti for $649 I'd also buy a 7900Xt for $699, and a 7900xtx for $799

I purchased a Agon/Aoc 32" 1440p 165Hz freesync curved monitor and love it. (found it on sale for $225 😄) My last build was the MSI 27" 144Hz freesync curved, and loved it too. I love the curved screen. It takes a bit to get used to, I wont go back to a flat panel again.

I wouldnt pay $799 for a 4070Ti. That still seams kind of steep for a middle upper level card. Looks like they priced it right below the 7900xt at $899 msrp. Neither one of them are attractive at those prices. Hoping by spring sales will have slumped enough to get a good deal.

I agree, having choices is a good thing. As I stated in an earlier post, choices are being removed in every aspect of our lives. We are truly living in the times of "The demolition man". Your only choices for take out are Taco Bell, beef is considered bad, and sex via a neuro link are just around the corner.

Ive been addicted to hardware from the day I put that NVIDIA Riva tnt, and Sound blaster expansion cards in my 1997 E-Machines budget desktop that I paid $300 bucks for at Best Buy. Boasting a mind boggling Intel Celeron 266mhz cpu, and a 15" crt monitor. When I took it to Lan parties,(yes that was a thing) the guys had to throw memory, and video cards my way so that I could play Unreal tournament....Now I think of it as more of a hobby I guess. Its better than huffing gasoline rags, or smoking crack. Choose your addiction wisely my friends 😄

We live north from most people, so taking advantage when its cold is a good thing. Make sure the side is off of your case to allow a good amount of air flow in. I could get ~10c drop in gpu temps doing it this way. If you can get the temps down, you should be able to raise clock and voltage to a point where you couldnt before.

You dont even really need to go outside. I live in Idaho, and I would open the window, and have a fan sucking in the cold air from outside. I would just close the door to my office, and let the temp drop. If you have a garage or shop, that might be a good way to go also. 😄