Mr. Fox

I probably would not even try to refrain. Sleep is optional when there are new parts to be installed. 🤣 UPS tried to deliver and he was not home so he will be picking it up from a UPS location probably later today.

So, I am continuing to have odd behavior with the Apex that is unexplainable. Can run stable for many hours and then suddenly will not boot Windows any more without a BSOD or stops booting before the BIOS screen and stays stuck on random LED Q-codes. It ran perfectly all day long yesterday and I turned it off to go to bed. When I tried to turn it on this morning it was stopping during POST with a black screen. Resetting CMOS and then applying the saved BIOS profile, it began working normally again. So, there is something wrong with it. Changing CPU, RAM and all attached storage does not seem to matter. I reopened the RMA for a refund and purchased a new replacement. It will be delivered Friday and I will return the original and wait for the refund. And Brother @Hiew is the new owner of the amazing AORUS Master. It is being delivered to him today.

So dumb. It seems like so many things that are new are garbage. And, the minds of the idiots driving the new ideas are broken. Stupid people producing garbage products for stupid people. The new normal. Maybe we will see prices go down for the "old" PSUs that were made the right way. My Thermaltake GF3 1650W PSU has two 12VHPWR connections (and cables) and like six 8-pin PCIe connections (and cables), plus the two EPS connections (and cables). It is hard to find them now because silly people don't like it because it has a powerful fan that they can hear running under heavy stress and it runs for a few seconds after you turn off the computer in order to cool off the internals. They would prefer that the PSU cook itself in silence.

I do not want to jinx any of us by saying too much. Is it because we do not use janky cables? Is it because we are extra careful about making sure cables are fully seated? Is it because the number that burn are a very tiny percentage that the media blows grossly out of proportion because they live or die based on click bait? Or, is it because we are lucky? Let me see what the Magic 8 Ball says...

They just need to man up and say "sorry everyone, we effed up so bad, and going forward the old standard 8-pin is the only standard forever" but they are not men. They are arrogant dweebs and greed-driven gangster losers. They have no concept of integrity and they live the opposite.

And, all of this nonsense simply because the Green Goblin refuses to acknowledge their horrible and misguided decision to force this crappy and inherently defective standard on the industry. Their mental handicap therefore becomes a problem for the entire world.

I use the type that mounts to the motherboard. Much cleaner and easier to use. Lian Li makes one, and Lian Li O11 cases come with an even better quality version. The GB 001 is what I would recommend for you. It does not get in the way of anything. I will never go back to the other types of GPU support brackets. These are so much better. https://www.amazon.com/GB-001-Graphic-cardnhalterung-Black/dp/B07YKGKZWP?crid=3O1TJOQCWC08R This one is made similarly (much less expensive) but I'm not sure I like the long reach. The GB 001 supports the GPU at the back instead of the front. That long arm might be "springy" but I think it is stilll a better design overall than the long arms that attach to the rear I/O screws or the kickstand type. The type you are looking (I have two of them) still try to sag because they have slack at the rear I/O and you have to overtighten the screws to stop it. I actually stripped the threads out of a case trying to use that type and get the screws tight enough that the GPU did not sag. https://www.amazon.com/Kesoto-Computer-Graphics-Adjustable-Vertical/dp/B09PYMKK68

For those that insist on running the trash OS, here is this new Micro$lop account bypass... curl -L christitus.com/bypass -0 skip.cmd -then- skip.cmd

Having a Gen 5 NVMe, an X4 PCIe card with four NVMe and an X1 card with two NVMe may have just exhausted its resources. BUT, it does not have that effect on the AORUS Master or Strix. I had 10 NVMe SSDs in the Master (two quad NVMe X4 cards and two in the mobo) without any issue. I have 7 in the Strix (quad NVMe and three in the mobo). With a Gen 4 NVMe in the top M.2 (Gen 5) slot and nothing in the X1 slot it seems like everything is functioning correctly, but I want to put it through all the paces. I had to reinstall Windows several times on the Gen 5 NVMe SSD. It would get corrupted within a couple of hours to the point of BSOD and unrepairable. I am running that same NVMe in the Strix and it is working flawlessly. I have 7 NVMe installed (quad NVMe x4 card, Gen 4 in Gen 5 slot and two Gen 4 in the DIMM.2 and no more memory errors or OS corruption (so far). LOL. I am OK with other people liking rainbow puke. Just not on my stuff. Give me white light all day. I don't even like having a solid static color that much. Just white. But, that's me. To each their own. Rainbow puke on the RAM and mobo lighting sucks, but doesn't suck as bad as the software needed to control it. I'd rather have the rainbow puke than the cancer software bloat running in the background. Edit: Oh, another thing seems "fixed" now. Not sure if it was the Gen 5 SSD or the X1 slot being used, but the OS on the Apex no longer temporarily freezes when launch ZenTimings. Before it would lock up for about 5 seconds when I opened ZenTimings.

From the beta thread in their Discord. https://discord.com/channels/750797327874129930/752301932558942302 Alternatively https://www.overclock.net/posts/29518003/

So, I ordered another X870E Apex and thought I would give it a second chance. BAD idea. Horrible product and worse than the first one. I submitted my RMA this morning. Fought it for 3 days. It's a piece of garbage just like the first one that I returned. The AORUS Master and Strix both overclock better than the Apex. It cannot even run 8000 C34 stable and for some reason using a Gen 5 NVMe in the top slot causes constant corruption of Windows that cannot be repaired (even using JEDEC/SPD defaults). I tried two of them and both have issues in the Apex, but not in the Master or Strix. Super disappointing that two of what is allegedly the best overclocking AM5 motherboards are rubbish and inferior to less expensive options. I spend about 36 hours moving parts back and forth between motherboards and all work flawllessly except when installed in the Apex, then everything turns to crap. I considered the idea of exchanging it, but it's not worth it. Lost two days of my life on this piece of dung and considering it is the second turd Apex... how 'bout no. Two known good CPUs, two known good memory kits and two known good Gen 5 NVMe malfunction when installed in the Apex. I'm a two-time Apex silicon lottery winner. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

Awesome. Looks great. Thank you.

I am trying to figure out how to run Cinebench in real time under Linux. The renice and chrt commands only seem to work on one thread and skip all of the child treads. Maybe it is because of wine being used to run it. Scores are about what I would expect for no tweaks.

Be safe, brother. Severe wind (hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.) are very dangerous.

Yes, greed. Greed becomes more egregious when it is combined with not caring about the people whose money is being taken. This is how companies roll in the 21st century. The new normal. Greed is easier to dismiss or forgive when you get something great in return for having your wallet brutally ransacked. The naked backplate is an example of not caring enough about the product you sell or the people that buy it to do something the right way. IKEA was the pioneer of selling trash to people and making them think they are buying something nice. Now it is a universal business practice.

I doubt that the putty is cheaper than pads. It's probably a combination of them trying to market something that some people will erroneously think is better, while simultaneously allowing them to manufacture a product in a sloppy and imprecise way. No need for them to determine the correct pad thickness or employ any precision. Just put the putty on, slap it together and ship it. Let the person that buys it deal with the mess.

Where are all of the stupid people that said "telemetry is OK... I have nothing to hide" now? It's not about 'hiding' anything, but about protecting yourself and staying safe, not having your personal information stolen and activity monitored and used for finanical gain in the best case scenario. Ripe for abuse in the more nefarious scenarios.

AI has been, and will be, abused in growing measure as it develops. Embracing a future built around it is artificially intelligent (stupid) on the part of those that bellieve it is wise. It is useful to process data. It should be limited to that. Beyond that it becomes foolish and dangerous.

I expect stupidity and ignorance to be the norm. It seems like their eyeballs should work though, LOL. If they see the latch and still have no idea then the situation is truly hopeless.

I hope so, too. I am going to wait to desolder the wiring until I hear back from them on it. It was a real pain in the bottom to do. Did the Strix 5090 XOC vBIOS get leaked? I saw some chatter about it at overclock.net but did not see where it is available for download. That's kind of scary. The person that bought that GPU does not even know there is a latch to keep the cable from coming loose? 🤣

So, I did the EVC2 mod on the 5090. I never thought to check the I2C support list to see if the voltage controller is supported. It turns out it is not. Bummer. I emailed Elmor's Labs to ask for assistance. If they cannot provide an XML profile for that voltage controller I will see if the one on the 4090 Suprim is supported and use it for that GPU. I noticed a couple of posts in the 5090 thread at overclock.net where it was mentioned some other GPUs have an unsupported controller. It would be a shame if Elmor does not update the profiles to provide support for it. I ran into this with SPI flash tools for laptop GPUs at one point where the vBIOS chip was not recognized. I had to buy a second SPI flasher to get support across the entire spectrum of GPUs when I was working with Prema on vBIOS stuff.