Mr. Fox

I played a bit of BF 2042 last night and the 9070 XT is boosting to like 3375, most of the time running 3100-3200 MHz. This is with a -0.060 undervolt and +10% power limit. Leaving it on stock defaults it is like 1.100V and rarely boosting to 3000. Definitely need to crack this thing open and see what I can do with the temps. Especially the memory. They've got the wrong pads or something. I haven't seen video memory temps this high since cryptomining with the 3090 KPE. 9070 XT handle BF2042 at 4K with maxed out settings without issue. FPS range from about 70 to 120 with an average of around 90 FPS.

Maybe they are counting on people settling for undesirable models because the ones they really want are not available and they think people will become too impatient and overpay for something they never wanted. It would make me happy to see all of the inexpensive models have dismal sales numbers and the AIB partners just start dumping them for whatever they can get for them and then stop wasting time, money and resources making and selling the garbage models that only the peasant kiddos want. AMD should stop offering 9070 and only sell 9070 XT and NVIDIA should only sell 5090 and 5080.

Brother @Papusan I think they are all scum that are going to screw every customer to the maximum degree customers are willing to tolerate the abuse. They are probably fishing in order to find the price point where the average person pulls their head out and uses their brain to say "Bite me [insert brand name]. Go find an idiot to buy your overpriced trash." and decides to not buy a product because the price is just too ludicrous to accept.

If you have an established account at overclock.net I would first list the items in the marketplace here and at overclock.net so you can bypass the fees from peeBay and PayPal. You can count on losing 10% or charging at least 10% more than what you actually want/need to offset the fees. I haven't needed to sell anything on peeBay since I started selling in forum marketplaces.

The uvula, hence the gag reflex. For those that don't know, the uvula is the hangy-down punching bag thing in the back of your throat.

I don't have WoW, but here's this. CP2077 4K w/ RT and PT SOTR 4K w/ Highest Graphics settings Looks like I need to do something about the memory temperatures. The memory chips must need thicker pads. The core max is 61°C but the memory junction is 90°C. But, it runs 3350+ on core with no issues. (I have not tried higher than that.)

Scalpers need to be hunted down until every last one has a lifeless skull filled with lead. They do not deserve the air they breathe. Dead scalpers don't scalp.

My impression is this is better than average. I haven't finished tuning for the PBO profile, but it is definitely WAY BETTER than the CPU installed in the Gene. Once I delid this and go bare die in an Apex mobo I think it will be even better. I think I am pushing the limits of this EK CR360 Dark AIO. See PBO settings below. I will see if I can take the Curve Optimizer higher than 25/20 sometime tomorrow. Right now it is not far off from my manual overclock with fixed core ratios. I am still working on trying to figure out the B850 Gigabyte AORUS Elite board. The behavior is very different than the Gene or the Cabron. I am starting to figure it out, but haven't gotten as far as memory fine tuning yet. This is just the XMP profile with tREFI maxed out and tFAW set to the bottom value available in the BIOS (20). I bumped the voltage from 1.450V to 1.550V. Even though it's got some degree of weirdness to it, I am actually more impressed with this B850 AORUS board than I expected to be. I was not very happy initially, but it was because I was struggling with getting things tuned because of the very different behavior/response to BIOS settings compared to what works on the Gene and the Cabron before it.

We've already had that conversation multiple times before. Sometimes you have to use Winduhz even when you would prefer not to. My employment revolves around the use of Micro$lop applications that do not function on anything but Windoze. If everything made to run on Winduhz ran on Linux some of us would use only Linux and wouldn't waste drive space or burn any calories forcing Windoze into conforming to our will. Winners take control of matters to the greatest degree possible to make the best of a bad situation and force things to go their own way rather than falling in line with Kool-Aid stained lips. Assisting others in following the same path of resistance and validating their mutual discontent with the OOBE is also a good thing. Winduhz and crApple: "Here's how things are going to work. We don't care if you like it. Our decision, not yours. We know what is best for you." Linux: "Choose whatever distro you want and do whatever you feel like doing. We don't care. You do you. You know what is best."

You should sell it for $1000 profit. Scalping doesn't apply when someone is actively looking for an opportunity to be taken advantage of. It will make him especially happy if you whisper dirty things in his ear while taking his money.

If you want color go with auto antifreeze. Then you do not need any biocides or other additive. You can choose from red, blue, green and gold. That is what I have been using since my first custom loop. It's better and a whole lot less expensive than when it comes in a branded PC coolant bottle.

Plush toys for children is how the "leaders" of the PC tech industry view things. These namby-pamby wusses are why overclocking is swiftly dying being systematically ruined by idiots and dishonest manufacturers. Maybe they should ship baby bottles and pacifiers with their products as free bonus gifts.

A mascot should be a reflection of the "team" it was selected by. So, what does their cartoon toy dragon tell you? Yeah, me too. Not good. They should have chosen a fear-invoking Viking style of dragon instead of a sissy-boy cartoon dragon.

I am not sure that I will ever purchase a 5090. Maybe a used one, if ever at all. I haven't heard anything nice or good about 50-series. Too many design defects and engineering flaws for something priced as though it were perfect, and I can't identify a good reason to spend more than the already-retarded prices I paid for 3090 Kingpin and 4090 video cards. I never enjoyed them at a level consistent with the purchase price and I think I would ultimately end up disappointed with the purchase. I think Jensen is too busy enjoying the investor circle-jerk and his gigantic salary and bonuses to give a rat's butt about the people NVIDIA is screwing, or the products he is selling them.

Well, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Montech AIR 903 MAX for the work PC build. It's not awesome like the Antec C8 or Lian Li Dynamix XL EVO, but for the price it's great. Very affordable. The 140mm fans (four included) are pushing more air than I imagined they would and run very quiet. The Montech Metal 120 fans I used to replace the EK AIO fans are also insane. They seem very well made, have solid performance specs. The only thing they lack is a unified design that connects them together. But, the RGB and fan cable are combined into one (very nice) and only split apart at the connector ends. Here are some pics. The one thing that Montech didn't do right is the same stupid issue most cases have. The space above and behind the motherboard needs to be greater. Above the motherboard there it only has enough room for thin radiators and push fans. No way you can install fat radiators and push/pull. That sucks, but I understand "normal" is their target market and gamerboy AIOs is what 99% of their customers are going to be installing. So, since I am using a gamerboy AIO for this application it's OK. It would NOT be OK with a custom loop. It feels like the entire PC industry is deliberately leaving overclocking enthusiasts up the creek with no paddle with fewer and fewer options to build something we can be proud of. Behind the motherboard tray it would be nice to have an extra 15-30mm of space. I got the cable management done without a bulge in the side panel, but man it sure was tight. The gamerboys get all hot and bothered by the case taking up too much space. I think (maybe) I have figured things out with the Gigabyte B850 board. Definitely seems like a firmware issue with voltage control. Setting manual voltage does not seem to function correctly and pushes way too much voltage to the CPU no matter what I set it for and regardless of the LLC settings. Even if I use maximum vdroop it goes up to 1.400V in Cinebench. I have to use "Auto" with a negative offset to pull it back down to a reasonable voltage level. At any rate, Cinebench scores are right up there with the Gene and Carbon at less than half the cost. And, I can use all three PCIe x16 slots without the GPU getting emasculated to PCIe 5.0 x8. And, this CPU is better than the one in the Gene. It can handle 2200 FCLK. The other 9950X won't boot at 2200. It caps out at 2175. I am going to have the check the SP rating and see how it works on an ASUS mobo that has better voltage control. That will have to wait for another day. I'll likely wait until the APEX drops and then delid it.

Agree. Using colored coolants is a great way to clog the loop, shorten pump life and forever stain acrylic. Using pastels is worse than clear. Three scoops of dirt in the loop versus one. This has been true for years. I used black once and it caused lasting issues. Now I use only distilled water and auto antifreeze. JayzTwoCents has many videos on this, but people make their own personal decisions. Logic often does not factor in when lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh and pride of life are driving forces behind choices we make. Robots don't have this problem.

No support. No problem. If you actually care about that, just run a script to flip it to LTSC/IoT Enterprise permanently HWID activated in an instant. No reinstall necessary... easy 30 second fix. And, not getting the newer Winduhz sucky crap "features" that you don't want rammed up your tailpipe is also a win.

Scary realistic AI. This might not end well for any of us. These digital creatures are nice to look at, but this type of realism offers endless opportunities for nefarious and deceptive schemes to play out.

Scary realistic AI. This might not end well for any of us.

When most things are relatively equal or similar, it still holds true that clock is king. An efficient machine will quite often lose to an inefficient power pig that clocks higher. The product that runs faster and gets more work done wins

That is coming from the 12VHPWR cable. It's humming because it is overloaded. Because they sent a little boy to do a man's job. I did not really want to, but for lack of a better alternative I put the Apex back on pre-order. This inexpensive but handsome-looking motherboard is better than I expected it to be, but something about it does not handle manual high frequency overclocking like I enjoy doing. It works totally normal within PBO motherboard limits, but either it or the Gigabyte firmware does not appreciate it when I start pushing it to the limit. I think that kind of load line calibration was not necessary for the intended audience, which is obviously gamers that want to spend less and don't go nuts overclocking. If Gigabyte miraculously manages to release a BIOS update that magically changes that I will re-cancel the pre-oorder.

A 7 pound, 15 ounce baby monster will be headed your way tamale. Now I just need to sell the monitor. Those are hard to sell. Lots of people prefer to buy $100 trash displays from Target, Walmart and Amazon just because it is new and don't want to pay the same amount for something about 5 times better, LOL.

Brother @Reciever I just sold the tower without the 3090 Ti FTW3 and Predator 1440p 165Hz IPS monitor. He already had an identical 3090 Ti FTW3 and already bought a monitor. If you are interested in either one or both drop me a PM.

Well it looks like Safedisk got handed another extraordinary silicon sample, as usual. I wonder how many ASUS had to bin and cull to find this one. Unless you have one this good I don't think it's possible to find much benefit in owning an X870E Apex if you have an average 9950X/X3D sample. $800 is too costly to justify with an average CPU. The Gene gave me no real benefit over the Cabron other than the crappy gamerboy MSI firmware that is missing important settings. https://www.overclock.net/posts/29442873/ About 2,000 points higher than my best. Speaking of bin quality, I need to do more testing to confirm it, but I think my second 9950X might be a lot better than the first one installed in the Gene.