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It's an awesome case for sure and I have always liked it. I think it is maybe an optical illusion because in the photos it looks really skinny from the front where the 4 fans are mounted, but the depth of the PSU basement looks very deep when viewed from the side. When I look at the two photos it almost seems like I am looking at two different cases because of the optical illusion. The front panel being removed might also make it look narrower with the fans exposed.

It is interesting how deep the case looks in the side photographs but the last photo looking straight from the front it looks very narrow. It may be an optical illusion because of it being so tall. How many inches wide does it measure across the front (view in last photo showing the four fans)? Is the space behind the motherboard tray narrow?

Rest in Peace, Charlie. Tom MacDonald is donating all proceeds from this song to Charlie Kirk's widow and two orphans.

Well, I can't find any evidence that it did not. And, I doubt we would get anything remotely close to honest and accurate from the media. They've shown us countless timed that we can't believe most of what they report or what they choose not to report because it doesn't fit their agenda. Either way it is still a good story. I hope it did. At the least it is a nice FAFO clip for China. Unfortunately, this is not fake. I wish it was. Very sad. The world we live is in overrun by psychopaths. Fortunately, Utah still has captial punishment.

Suck it, China. Congratulations on showing your military incompentence and tactical inferiority to the entire planet. Hope you enjoyed the payback. There's more where that came from. Bring it on, losers.

My one-word answer is "nope"

They CAN make a proper processor, but they choose not to because they believe in the hoax and they are drinking the Kool-Aid and bought into the "less power is better" tree-hugging idiot approach. The entire technology space is overrun by hypocritical nitwits that don't know the difference between their head and their butt hole. Even the dullards at Micro$lop talk from both sides of their butt about wanting to "save the planet" that doesn't need saving by producing an OS that increases e-waste by making perfectly usable computers "incompatible" with their latest trash OS.

I'm not sure how much harder I am going to push it. I always enjoy it while I am doing it, but find it very difficult to muster the motivation when I am not. Knowing that, now more than ever before, that there is a snowball's chance in hell that I can "win" the prize-less crown because of not getting special firmware and hardware nudges me in the direction of no longer caring. The "winners" (publicity shills) are chosen in advance. To a smaller degree, I have gotten so comfortable with Linux that I just don't like using Windoze anymore. Even for gaming or benching. Windoze sucks. I feel dirty after using Winduhz. The WireView was DOA. I had to return it to Amazon for a refund. No power on the output side of it for some reason. You might have missed that in my reply to @tps3443. I've always had only wonderful experience with them, but the two I already have will not fit either of my GPUs. I need to offer them up for sale but I have been too lazy to bother with it for something of such minimal monetary value.

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5891713 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r20/submissions/5891716

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5891683? | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/141353547 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5891699 | https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8515121

There are too many wildcards and variables that come into play with this feces 12VHPWR cable and I think if anything is less than perfect it is going to turn to crap. But, as you know it doesn't matter at this point. The WireView Pro was defective (DOA) and had to be returned to Amazon for a refund. No power would pass through it to the GPU. I saw another purchaser posted a review of the same problem. So, no WireView and not going to buy another. The 1500W UPS is working great. Like you, I have had zero problems with it and consider myself lucky. With and without WireView, no burning, melting or even warm cables on my systems.

I haven't started using the chiller yet, but this beats my top score using the chiller. https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2676664 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5891576?

Yes, I will be careful. I am usually more careful that necessary and I have always been super-paranoid about these defective new connections. Since my first GPU with the chintzy 12VHPWR connectors I am constantly feeling of the cable and WireView or using my IR thermometer and so far none have ever melted or gotten overly hot. My 4090 Suprim has a 1kW vBIOS and when pushed hard on the chiller it will chug 1000W easily. If I see any evidence that the cable is getting hot/hotter with the WireView than without it I will return it for a refund to Amazon. Even if I end up returning it, I will at least be able to see how much power is getting pulled through the 12VHPWR socket with the shunt mod. I still think damage to the GPU itself is reduced with it because the WireView itself is a heatsink and all of the power pins that connect to the GPU come from a common bar. I think it provides a level of load balancing among the pins that NVIDIA so "thoughfully" (negligently) omitted. But, while I think the socket on the GPU is safer, that is not going to do anything whatsoever to help the cable connecting to the WireView not melt. It may be that the cable gets hotter because the WireView acts as a heatsink. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

I've have two of them already and the first one was the initially released product from a long time ago and I haven't had any problems with them on both 4090s. The only reason why I had to buy a new one is because my connector is reversed on the Zotac. I think the possibility of the connector melting in the GPU if it is plugged in all the way could be less than a cable melting because all of the current is passing through a large piece of metal instead of individual wires. I think the possibility of the cable melting where it plugs into the WireView is exactly the same as it would be with the cable connected to the video card. The biggest issue with them is not fitting everything that uses this power socket. There are too many design variances from one GPU to the next. I had to use a Dremel tool to carve away part of the acrylic on both of my 4090 Bykski waterbocks. And neither one of them would fit with the stock air cooler installed. From any angle that I look at it there's nothing good or satisfying about this new power connector and it amazes me that they continue using it in spite of its extremely stupid, fragile design and glaring engineering defects. That is a reflection of what a sad, sad, sad situation we have in the PC tech space. We have been overrun by retarded baboons that have been given free reign to make stupid decisions that screw things up for everyone and no accountability for their stupidity.. it is the perfect example of the classic definition of insanity... Continue making the same mistake and expecting a different outcome.

So, as best I can tell just playing a game like DOOM: The Dark Ages with no overclock the GPU is pulling around 700W now and between 950 and 1000W from the wall now. Boost clock is a little over 3000 MHz and no fluctuation.... just a flat line. Speedway the same. Stock boost is a flat-line 3000 MHz and about 1100W from the wall. runing Speedway. The power cable is not even getting a little bit warm to the touch. I ordered a new Cyberpower 1500W UPS because both of the 800W untis that I have power off under 100% 3D load. They used to beep once in a while using the 4090 but never powered off. They clearly cannot handle what this shunted 5090 is requiring of them. I also ordered a new WireView Pro with the down-facing connector so I can actually see how many watts are getting pulled through the 12VHPWR cable. GPU-Z is showing like 480W paying DOOM, so it may be more than 700W just stock. Both of those will be here tomorrow. Here's the stock clock flat-line graph from Speedway. Before the shunt mod a stock run was something like 2850-2870 boost clock and constantly fluctuating. So, without touching anything is running much more aggressively now.While I am waiting for those items to arrive I am going to switch to the stock vBIOS and see if the behavior is the same, better or worse compared to the GigaChad vBIOS after the shunt mod.

Mission accomplished. 100% working. My UPS is screaming bloody murder now and a quick MSI Kombustor run is now showing nearly 1200W getting pulled from the wall, whereas before it was between 850-900W doing the same thing. It was not possible to do the Jufes incognito shunt mod because this new style of resistor has the solder points lower than the black plastic part of the resistor. Older resistors were the opposite, with the solder points on each end being flush or taller than the plastic. The resistors don't make contact as the solder points unless you use solder to bridge the air gap with this newer design. The dimensions are also smaller, so even if I had the right resistors in terms of resistance they would have been too long to work. So, she is soldered. I figured out on the second resistor that it worked easier to flip it over with the labeled side facing the original resistor. It was easier to hold in place for soldering with them face-to-face instead of labeled side up due to the shape of them. I have to leave for a doctor's appointment in a few minutes but I will do more testing tonight and this weekend. Will most likely hook up the chiller tomorrow. Here are the PCB photos. Very well-made GPU. Shunted resistors... Looks like Kombustor was drawing around 800-900W. @tps3443

We are surrounded by stupid. Here is some new well-deserved Razer hate... https://youtu.be/8w8m1UuLsEQ I received the shunt resistors yesterday so I will probably do the mod tomorroww.

NVIDIA would have to really eff things up or price themselves out of business (which they almost did) to get most people to move to AMD. Stupidity and screw-ups on an order of magnitude and as unpardonable as removing hyper-threading and focusing on smartphone cores are the only reason my house is no longer an AMD-free zone. AMD did not take the win as much as Intel losing focus on what matters and giving it to them. All three companies suck and are run by idiots that suck at their jobs. Actually, that is the new normal for the industry as a whole.

Alienware has met its match... they no longer the hold the title to "worst" thanks to HP. They are now the runner up.

Darn. I almost texted you to see if you were interested. I figured you would see the post. Had I known you were away I would have gone with my initial instinct. I'm sorry, brother. I would have loved for it to go to you. It was purchased by another Texan. A guy in San Antonio from overclock.net snagged it. I have a water cooled 3080 if you need a GPU. I've been hanging onto it as a spare part.

Too bad for the dumb-dumbs that already wasted money on the latest GPUs with only 8GB. Sucks to them, but also not cool on NVIDIA's part to screw them over like that. For anyone that believes NVIDIA actually wants to futureproof (i.e. sell fewer) GPUs, I have some ocean beach property in Phoenix that I am selling very cheap.

September 13 will be here before you know it...

Sybella has a pretty voice. All of the AI stuff is getting too real. Dangerous road we are going down. It would be nice to see more real people.

Ooops. No chiller on this one. Voltage got higherwith the comparatively elevated temperature. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5889007