Mr. Fox

I agree. It is a huge mess and we know who we need to go after. There has been one major change that has thrown everything out of whack. We need to undo that change and take steps to make sure it never happens again. The difficulty is some people refuse to acknowledge the source or call it a problem, and they want to make it illegal for anyone else to. Because of that, the entire human race is in jeopardy. The irrational hatred of one man that has done undeniably more great things than any recent predecessor has been an incredibly massive distraction and it has driven some people to the point of insanity beyond any hope for recovery. They've become entirely consumed by their lunatic hatred, and it is all they can ever think, speak or act upon. It is unbelievably sad. LOL. I literally watched that less than 2 minutes ago. What a crazy coincidence. And, this one right after it.

It doesn't matter where you fall on the liberal versus conservative Richter scale, woke stupidity, the absence of common sense and the utterly insane levels of Kool-Aid drinking political correctness it requires is too easy to identify. Looks like a real "uh-oh moment" for CNN. They accidentally brought someone on a show that tells the truth. Quite the mess they found themselves in on Primetime. Hilarious watching the circus clowns doing the backstroke live on air. I wonder who got fired for accidentally choosing a truth-teller for a guest interview? LOL.. love it. Pants-down funny! I suspect this muppet media witch had a difficult time keeping up with the instructions in her earpiece and the chaos on her teleprompter.

Running the cache ratio at 50x, or higher if your CPU can handle it, does amazing things for memory latency. That might also contribute to game instability. If everything else stays exactly the same except the cache ratio is lowered, that might be enough to make things smooth out. Might try that with BF2024 at 8200 memory with cache ratio like 46x or 48x and see what happens. Anyone remember the dumb-dumbs a fews years ago saying having 8GB of VRAM on an MXM card was a silly gimmick and waste of money? I wonder how their "sensible" 4GB GPU laptop upgrades are working out for them now? How 'bout no? The "gimmick" isn't even good enough now, LOL. This is a new video looking at old video cards, not an old video from the HU archive.

Looks like that got "fixed" by EA this evening and now some extra steps are necessary. The original thread (link above) got locked by a moderator. New thread link: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports-Technical-Issues/Origin-keeps-forcing-me-to-download-EA-app/m-p/12386803#M21803 Additional steps added: New step due to EA's attempt to keep us from using the Origin client again....... **Delete the files called "OriginThinSetupInternal.exe" which are located at (up to) THREE LOCATIONS...(so far)... C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin C:\ProgramData\Origin C:\ProgramData\Origin\SelfUpdate\Staged Start Origin and log into your Origin account. There may be a little update notification about Origin. Always choose option to NOT update Origin. Should set that in settings also. *** I just searched my system for every instance of "OriginThinSetupInternal.exe" and deleted all of them. I also found the offending cancer file lurking in the C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Local\Origin\ThinSetup\10.5.119.52718 and deleted it there as well. I also located a registry key making reference to the file at that path and deleted that key.

8200 stable at 125% coverage. @tps3443BF 2042 runs for a few minutes for me and then goes to a black screen at 8200 memory so I'm blaming it on the game not being able to cope with the memory overclocked that high. So, 8000 for gaming is probably going to yield a more consistent experience than 8200.

Thank you. That was everything maxed out on graphics (Ultra preset). Incredibly smooth with the 4090 barely breaking a sweat. It is absolutely insane how the 4090 rips through everything like a hot knife through butter. I really need to look into an Elmor hardware tweak so I can give it more voltage. The 1.100V NVIDIA cap is an absolute joke. I bet this thing could run 3500-3800MHz on core with 1.350V. I am not worried about power consumption. I consider it to be irrelevant and the higher it is generally goes hand-in-hand with higher performance because the CPU is unrestrained and allow to run wild and free. Striving for lower power draw usually adversely impacts performance. I do hope the KS allows me to overclock higher with lower voltage (for lower temperatures) but I probably won't even pay attention to power draw. Power and current limits are maxed out as a matter of default firmware settings. Essentially no power or current limit imposed. The CPU is allowed to use as much as it wants to. That being said, the higher voltage requirement demands higher power limits. It is unavoidable unless you want to have power and current limit throttling problems. If the KS is a good sample that uses lower voltage, the CPU will demand less in terms of power and current, but I will still leave the limits maxed out so there is no restraint on the CPU taking as much as it wants. You may need to give it more voltage. Here is a screenshot of the settings I use for DDR5-8200 on two different Z690 Dark BIOS versions. These are stable for everything except poorly coded games. It may not take much to make it stable. Start with SA at 1.350V. Then, if you need to, pump up the VDD and VDDQ a bit. Don't be surprised if you can pass every memory test without error and find that some games are unstable. That doesn't mean the gaming is demanding as much as the game developer was sloppy with their coding. Many games are made to run well on a potato so that people with weak hardware can enjoy playing them. If a game requires powerful hardware that is going to limit profits for the game developer because there would be too many people that could not run it with their old or cheap PC hardware. Also consider how many games (unfortunately) are ported from consoles, or made to run on either platform at launch. The anemic performance capabilities of a game console really opens the playing field for owners of old and cheaply spec'd computers to play. There are also lots of games that are poorly coded garbage that fall apart with extreme memory overclocking. The coding is too sloppy to handle speeds like that. I've seen it with CPU overclocking as well, and even high refresh rate monitors making some exceptionally buggy games crash. Edit: Here are some slightly looser timings that might work if those above are too tight. The read/write/copy and latency are just as good even though the timings are just a little bit looser.

I've owned it for a long time and never really played it. Played BF 2042 for a couple of hours today. Not so much as a hiccup running P 57X, E 46x, Cache 49x @ 1.350V VCore, memory at 8000 CL35-48-48-42 (my daily driver settings) totally stable in this game. Hitting maxes of 370W on the CPU and 425W on the GPU for 2 hours of solid gameplay. Not too shabby. No chiller, just my MORA keeping things in check.

Yes, it is cancer. It has company with a lot of other forms of digital cancer, with more filth on the horizon. That is sad. But, it is a reflection of the people behind it. They are examples of a human form of cancer and the embodiment of a virus for building digital feces. Hopefully enough normal people will reject their filth and force them into compliance with the wishes of their "customers" or face financial ruin for failing to comply. The threat of destruction or annihilation is often the only force compelling enough for force idiots to fall back in line and do what is expected of them. I'm not going to purchase anything from them again if I have to use this piece of garbage to play it. They don't sell anything worth tolerating it, and I doubt they can create anything compelling enough for it to be worth putting up with their trash app. If they're not willing to fall in line, then they deserve to die as a company and we will all be better off without them. I'd pull the plug on their life support system and celebrate watching them flat-line right now if I could. I'd like to do that to a number of self-anointed Nazi bigshots right now, including Micro$lop, Facepoot and Google. My EA library is already very tiny because the Origin client sucked. It was tolerable, but sucked. I would have no problem walking away from what's in there now and never purchasing anything from EA ever again. I don't understand why being excellent and awesome, and doing what your patrons want and expect is such a rare thing anymore. I've had a gut full of this kind of crap, too. The kiddos are so worried about cheating they allow dictators to ruin things. Well, to hell with them. If I can't play their trash game with Driver Signature Enforcement disabled, they can stuff their cancer game feces up the tailpipe from whence it came. This reflects the morbid stupidity of the zombie sheeple in its finest form. This is where hacks, cracks and exploits can demonstrate real value. I am not sure how long it is going to last, but that hack seems to have worked for now. The old Origin client is working again. The new crap app is installed, but not being used.

Most of the best things in life have been, are in process, or soon will be, ruined by worthless, stupid, greedy, dishonest losers that are an utter waste of human DNA. They should all be rounded up and shipped off to a concentration camp on a deserted island so they can't continue screwing things up for the normal people of the world. We've allowed them to have a presence, make decisions, have influence and gain control in areas where it is unwelcomed. They have proven, without a shadow of doubt, that the original concepts of "diversity" and "inclusion" have been misappropriated, bastardized and FUBAR'd. What we are left with is neither one, but a highjacking of normalcy by idiots.

My preference is to play all by myself in offline campaign mode. I enjoy the solitude and absence of interaction with other human beings, even friends and family, when gaming.

Looks like there may be a hack. I'm going to give it a try. Glad to see there are lots of other people that think it sucks like I do. https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports-Technical-Issues/How-do-I-bypass-the-EA-App-and-access-Origin-to-play-games/m-p/12305817#M21656

Yeah, that is one of the things I dislike most about multi-player. When I do engage socially, I prefer it to be with people I know and like versus strangers, and I prefer one or two friends at a time, not a "party" with lots of people. Dadgummit! Is there a way to avoid installing a piece of crap app instead of Origin client? This kind of stuff really pisses me off. I don't see a cancel option available now.

I love having standard benchmarks built into games. I have purchased games that I do not like and never play simply to have the benchmark tool. I have said it often enough that people that have been hanging out in the same places as me are probably numb to it by now. It probably seems to be contradictory in some ways because I am heavily engaged in a couple of forums relating to my overclocking hobby, but I am not naturally a social type. I am a very boring hermit apart from the overclocking thing and do not enjoy multiplayer gaming. The closest thing to that I have ever enjoyed is multiplayer LAN, but I don't even like that anymore. I seldom play games, but when I do the intent is generally self-isolation versus social engagement. That probably makes me seem like a weirdo to a lot of people. Hmm, interesting. I did not know that. I will have to give that a try. I think I may have Battlefield 2042 in my library of games that never get played. I love single-player Battlefield and CoD titles, but gaming is something I can rarely make time for. Too busy with other things and not enough hours in a day to include gaming.

My ignorance on the subject is possibly reflective of the fact that I avoid online multiplayer games. But, I still have not noticed anyone showcasing performance on low settings before. Maybe because I am so selective and narrow in my interests that I have skimmed over all of them or I simply haven't spent any time in social media settings relating to it. I am used to the exact opposite being the point of focus.

I think that's the first time I have seen anyone showcase performance using low settings. What does it do with everything maxed out? Happy Easter, everyone. I did not find it for sale (yet) in the US. If you need my help getting one and sending it to you, I am happy to do that. Let me know which one you want to buy (link) in a PM and we can do it. That 3-slot PCIe bracket that goes with that would be good for punching a couple of 20mm holes for G1/4 bulkhead passthrough fittings. I do not know if you are finding the same, but in my testing it seems like Windows 10 is getting slower than Windows 11. I am not sure if it is maliciously crafted drivers causing it or what, but even CPU performance tests that used to do better on Windows 10 versus Windows 11 are getting slower for me. I think the Redmond Reprobates are deliberately doing the same digital genocide tactics they used to sabotage Windows 7. In almost all benchmarks now LTSC 2019 and 2021 perform worse for me. By that I mean, worse than they used to, not worse compared to Windows 11. All of my scores using the older/better OSes seem to be going down, which smacks of nefarious intent and sabotage. This is why you see Winduhz 11 in most of my benchmarks. Not because I like it. Quite the opposite. I hate it more than before because of this. It is repulsive, but the reason I have multi-boot systems is because benchmarks don't care what kind of nasty piece of crap the OS is. I am finding it harder to identify a benefit in benchmarks and starting to see evidence of handicap using a more desirable OS.

Looks like you are having an issue with the graphics score missing as well. I did initially, but reinstalled the benchmark and display driver, then it started showing it instead of zero.

I had seen this for Android, but did not realize it was available for Windows and Linux. https://www.antutu.com/en/download.htm

That sounds like something he would do, but I don't know that he's smart enough to do it. He'd have to hire someone for sure. The woke lefties are getting crazier here too. It's going to be much harder for them to score a fake win using election fraud next time. This is probably making them very nervous about their future. Even progressive liberals are starting to pay attention and take issue with their nefarious, dishonest and un-American approach to things, LOL. But, Brother @Etern4lmay be right. It might just be an ISP quality/service failure. Have you reached out to them yet?

Dang, bro... just now getting ready to install it and I am already impressed on the first screen of Windows Setup. If the OS is as slick as the Setup Environment it will be something really special.

That question was for @Talonregarding his IMC SP rating. New version of RivaTuner. Looks like new features and fixes. https://www.guru3d.com/files_details/rtss_rivatuner_statistics_server_download.html

What is the IMC SP rating on that 13900K?

I like the CPU frame mainly because it provides some extra protection to the CPU SMDs and socket running liquid metal. You could actually omit the screws and just use the water block to press the CPU into the pins. The danger there is only during disassembly. You don't want the CPU to stick to the block initially, then come loose and fall into the open CPU socket and bend the pins or damage the CPU. But, if you do the washer mod it will be good enough. Using 1.0mm nylon washers between the ILM and mobo PCB gave me the same results as the CPU frame and it was enough pressure to have proper pin contact.

If they fix it the EKWB DD kit should be fine. If they do not, then I will lap the cold plate and see if I can fix it. But, as shipped it is no better than using the IHS and a total waste of time and money. The problem seems to be the cold plate is not flat. It is shaped for a concave surface as you would expect using an IHS. That messes up contact between the block and die. The Supercool kit is definitely better by a lot due to the flawed cold plate on the EKWB DD.

How many processes are showing as active in Task Manager. You need to be down below 75 processes (50 or less is ideal) and run the benchmark with the CPU priority set to Realtime. Looks like you have taken the right steps. Like @johnksssyou can try Above Normal or High. Once in a while I see lower Cinebench scores with realtime. How does your cache ratio and memory clock compare to the one you are trying to beat? If all things are equal, blame the OS. Have you removed Windows Defender and uninstalled any third-party AV? How about disabling network and audio adapters? Their drivers can also slow down a CPU. Basically, you want the CPU to be distracted by nothing. When running Cinebench, its one and only mission in life at that point in time should be running Cinebench and nothing else matters.

I just ordered a CPU from them. I spoke to a salesman and confirmed the 100% satisfaction guaranteed applied to the CPU. So, if I get it and it is a lousy sample I have 30 days to return it for refund no questions asked. He could not tell me what an "embargo" 13900KS is, but my logic is that it was a first batch intended for reviewers and may be (hopefully) cream of the crop silicon quality. I guess we will find out. And, I will know within 5 minutes or less if it is a keeper or an RMA candidate. A couple of years ago I never would have bought a tray CPU because they have no warranty from Intel. They are for bulk sales and system builders and the seller has to provide a warranty. But, now that Intel no longer offer the performance tuning warranty and they arbitrarily void your warranty if you admit to overclocking the CPU or memory, buying a boxed retail CPU is pointless unless you plan to lie to Intel and hope they believe you.