Mr. Fox

That is going to look sweet.

It matters less to me now than it has in a very long time, and I am seeing that trend surfacing with other long-term benching enthusiasts. I have seen guys whose names I have known for years at HWBOT make random comments at ExtremeHW and Overclock.net forums that suggest they are starting to feel the same way. I attribute this to changes in conditions that make overclocking and benching less attractive than it used to be. It has always been a hobby that costs money, but the list of things that detract from the fun and excitement is growing. Unreasonable prices (everything is far more inflated and overpriced than it ever has been) Product availability (although starting to trend more favorably, but if you can't actually buy one, then there is no reason to care that it exists) Poor value (different than cost to the extent that the benefit of an upgrade is becoming more difficult to identify... pointless to spend big money on small gains... getting milked on 3090 Ti, KS vs K CPU, etc.) Inconsistent quality (and increased financial risk due to silicon variance and poor manufacturing quality control... for luck to determine if you get a good or poor sample when spending money is unacceptable) Dumbing down of OSes and software (Windows is probably the biggest offender here) Shifting industry focus (meaning "what matters most" often matters least to an overclocking enthusiast... don't give a damn that it uses less power, runs longer on battery, etc.) Changes at HWBOT (some don't like the "new" way of competing and have lost interest on that basis... "seasons" suck... almost like YouTube now, you have to constantly produce or you lose ground) AMD (and NVIDIA to a lesser extent) making products that are mostly unimpressive to overclocking enthusiasts because they suck at overclocking BGA turdbooks that can't overclock well enough to bother (due to crappy firmware and lousy engineering) are now the new state of normal in PC technology. Even a modest desktop build with an ordinary AIO cooler is starting to be viewed by most consumers as "extreme" (LOL). To fill the void, I am starting to derive a little bit of satisfaction from other things relating to technology while this mess either sorts itself out or blows itself up in the process. For example, I am spending more time with Linux because I am rapidly losing interest in Windows. I am starting to be more interested in making Linux work than I am fixing the things that I despise about Windows. I am also trying, although with less success than I expected, to renew my interest in gaming. I think it is because there are fewer titles that I find appealing than there used to be. I find it increasingly difficult to identify new games that I actually care about or want to spend money on. Franchised titles that I used to enjoy immensely are often repulsive to me now due to the focus on online multiplayer and they often have no single player campaign. I bought a Steam Link device back around 2015 or 2016. I bought one for @Prema as a gift at the same time. They were on sale for a ridiculously low price (like $8-10 if I recall) and had never used it. This weekend, I hooked it up to my 4K TV in the living room. It worked flawlessly with my almost never used XBOX One Elite Wireless controller and Bluetooth wireless headphones. I don't like gamepads (keyboard and mouse are the only proper way to game) and I didn't get a lot out of the gameplay. But, I did enjoy experimenting with the hardware that has been sitting on a shelf and collecting dust for 5+ years. Yes, my desktop is overclocked when I tinker with Linux and it was overclocked while playing with the Steam Link. No, not because it needed to be. It was overclocked because I could and because I wanted to. I don't think I would enjoy doing anything on it if it were not overclocked. 5800X3D... I don't think so. Not only no, but hell no. Might as well be BGA crap.

I ordered a kit from Rockitcool and now it seems the timing is multiple people are jumping on the bandwagon to make it as normal as it used to be. The 11th Gen abortion and Ryzen had a very chilling effect on the benefits of a delid. It is also nice to see direct die having potential to become a thing for Ryzen. That's long overdue and much needed for 5950X owners. The delid was a waste of my time and money, but this probably would have made it worth doing. http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/en/product/43/water-block-direct-die-amd The Intel kit is out of stock, but I am hoping to snag one when it comes back into stock. http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/en/product/39/direct-die-intel-gen12 I have one of these for 10th Gen that I have never used. I might try it out on Banshee. It's not ideal if you are constantly fiddling with the hardware because you can't take out the CPU without having to take extra steps to avoid a mess of spilled water, but on a system that is just a daily driver that rarely every gets tinkered with (which is how I use Banshee) it seems like the most effective CPU water cooling option.

I know my surprised look isn't on my face, but confirmation is always appreciated. Windows 11 gives those who still love and continue to use Windows 7 even less incentive to move the the latest OS because it is even more undesirable than Windows 8.X or 10 were. One survey says Windows 11 adoption hasn't even surpassed Windows XP yet | TechSpot By Daniel Sims April 17, 2022, 7:42 AM The big picture: Before Windows 11 launched, it was met with controversy over its confusing system requirements. A few months later, data is beginning to show that this may have stalled the operating system's adoption. How severely depends on who you ask. A survey released by IT company Lansweeper this week paints a dismal picture for Windows 11 adoption among enterprise workstations. Among over 10 million devices surveyed, just 1.44% ran Windows 11. That's less than the 1.71% still using the 20-year-old Windows XP and the 4.7% using Windows 7. Windows 10 predictably dominates, detected on 80.34% of systems. Another Lansweeper survey of over 30 million devices reveals what is likely a major factor in Windows 11's sluggish adoption: over half of enterprise workstations don't meet its system requirements. Only 44% of systems passed its notorious CPU requirements. The company's numbers come from anonymous scans of systems running its software, not unlike Steam's monthly surveys. @Papusan

Have a wonderful day, guys. Today is my favorite holiday.

Nice to see some stock available for people that live within driving distance of a MicroCenter. It has been a long time since I saw good inventory counts. Prices are still too high, but after they finish unloading the shipping containers we might see prices come down even further. Congratulations. It's nice when you can be wrong about something that turns out good. I have first dibs on it if you decide to sell it. 😄

Did you have a chance to see if it is a keeper or a defective sample RMA candidate? What do you say to Best Buy when you return lousy silicon samples for a refund? (Curious what you tell them.) Do they give you any crap or resistance?

The solution is to boycott everything and say no with your wallet. It probably won't matter because we are seriously outnumbered by idiots. Those idiots are the reason the rest of us are screwed. Surrendering isn't a good option though. Calling something good simply because it is the least screwed up option makes being better less relevant. It is a misuse of the word good and a falsehood that perpetuates mediocrity and normalizes suckiness. Choosing between full and partial BGA is like choosing between two incurable fatal diseases. Better to spend less and expect less than to pay top dollar for permafilth. If you find yourself stuck with having to settle for mobile garbage, spend as little as possible on it and set the bar at basic computing functionality and it won't hurt quite as bad as spending a lot on a disposable soldered piece of crap.

Since I have essentially ignored laptops for several years due to lack of interest, it is almost impossible for me to identify "decent" mobile performance on face value. But, the numbers shows that you are the Fire Strike world record holder for 9700F and mobile 1080. Your closest competitor is an MSI notebook that trails you by roughly 800 points. 3DMark Fire Strike Ranking Results

The 7000D is basically a larger version of the 5000D. The 5000D is super nice and well made, but you can't fit dual 360's in it and you cannot fit a thick 360mm in the top panel like the one I have mounted in the front panel because there is not enough clearance between the top panel and motherboard. If you put a radiator in the top it has to be a normal thickness and even if you go with a slim radiator there is not enough height for push/pull on the top panel mounting unless (maybe) you also go with slim fans. The 7000D has plenty of clearance between the top panel and the mobo. Both 5000D and 7000D support vertical GPU mounting with no need for a bracket. All you need is a PCIe cable. Although I am not sure if a 3+ slot GPU like your 3090 Ti would work in a vertical mount with the stock air cooler. If it did fit, the air flow would most likely be impaired due to close proximity to the side panel.

I would buy the biggest and best you can handle financially. I agree with Brother @electrosoft that you should NOT go below 1000W. If you buy more PSU than you need, you're good to go now or later. As long as it keeps working you never have to worry about getting a bigger PSU later. I realize you are looking to minimize cost right now, so stick with a known reliable brand 1000W minimum. EVGA warranty service is the best.

Did you mean 5000 or 7000 by chance? I cannot find anything on the 6000 model number. My 5000 is smaller than I would have liked and wish I had spent more for the 7000D Airflow instead. The Level 20 XT is stinking GIGANTIC and I love that. It will handle 3 420MM radiators if memory serves me correctly.

Looks good, bro. You did fit a lot in there.

@Sandy Bridge nice ride. I think it looks great. I am not a fan of the RGB rainbow puke and primarily only do white LED. The front fans are blue because I couldn't find white LED, and the blue was not as obnoxious looking as red. I'm considering snipping the wires to the blue LEDs on the front panel fans or replacing the LED diodes with white ones since they are super inexpensive to purchase.

Those muppet children are so happy because each of their Easter eggs have a 5800X3D inside. The issue that I find more disturbing than the idiots at AMD releasing a castrated piece of trash like that is that there are people stupid enough to buy it after hearing of its flaws because it's a "gaming CPU" LOL. Maybe this is a test that serves a business purpose for AMD to find out how high they can raise the bar on mediocrity and nonsense, as in how much they can get away with and how much of it their Kool-Aid drinking sheeple are willing to put up with.

Smart move, by a smart guy. Many of them are little more than a glorified smartphone. Hardware is being toned down and the OS dumbed down. That said, they are not as unpleasant and cumbersome.

Here is a thread to show off your system. I know some of you are rocking some pretty darned impressive beasts, so don't be shy about sharing your passion. You can highlight the build in whatever manner you feel appropriate, whether it is focusing on certain components, the customizations you have done, or simply posting pretty pictures of your pride and joy. If the details you are sharing are not already captured in your signature, please add a list of the components/specs. WRAITH 2.0 - For Fun BANSHEE 2.0 - For Work @Papusan @pathfindercod @electrosoft @Talon @johnksss @Rage Set @Reciever - all of you have stuff worthy of bragging about here.

I think this might be my favorite Linux desktop look/feel. It is a mixture of Windows 7 and 10 GUI elements.

The information is there, but it is not at our fingertips the way it was with Windows 7 and earlier versions of Windows 10. One of the issues that holds Linux back from being a better product is Linux zealots that are driven by irrational hate. They are just little bit worse than the dummies that complain that Linux isn't exactly the same as the reason(s) people leave Windows in favor of Linux. Somewhere in the middle, the "do what makes sense" and not being hesitant to copy or emulate a good idea we would find a solution but for the extremists on opposing ends of the spectrum.

The 5800X3D seems like it is designed to make a PC the equivalent of an overpriced gaming console. I think I would have a whole lot more respect for all of the Big Tech vendors if they would come right out and say, "Sorry kids... we've got nothing new right now. When we do you can be sure that it will be awesome, but there is no point in us wasting your money or burning our own calories on releasing crap just for the sake of saying we have something new when it is actually nothing special. So, please spend your money on the killer stuff that we already gave you, or take time to enjoy it if you already have, and just chill until something great surfaces."

So, I had been using primarily Linux Mint and Pop_OS! with Cinnamon DE. With my recent upgrade to 12900K there were a number of things not working. I discovered that the latest beta of Fedora adds functionality to what was broken with Mint and Pop_OS! In particular cpupower-gui works as intended. You can now control the clocks of each core (both P and E core). I like it better than the last version of cpupower-gui that I was using with 10th Gen. It adds a good amount of features that older versions did not have.

Okey-dokey. As the title implies, here is a thread for Linux users to share new information, tips, tweaks and help others fix issues they encounter using the Windows replacement of their choice.

Nice. Fedora/RHEL added 12th Gen support and now the cpupower-gui utility works properly. You can change clocks per P-core and E-core from the Linux desktop.