Mr. Fox

I think I am going to probably be joining them. The hardware manufacturers and Redmond Retards have effed things up enough that it's not as fun as it used to be, and I'm getting sick of having to deal with their dumbass bullcrap. That's on top of the fact that their trash is overpriced to the point that it offers no value.

Hey kids! Here's our bestest GPU in the whole wide world. Buy this one. But, please please hurry. Prices might not stay this high forever and we need stupid people to act quickly. ...after a little while... Ha ha, faked you out. Guess what, kids?! It's not really our bestestest GPU. It's this one. It has the cooling and clock speeds that you deserved before when you let us screw you the first time, but you didn't get it because we needed you to come back and let us milk you for more. But, that's OK. It's cheaper now. But, hurry. Prices might not stay this lower forever and we need stupid people that opened their wallet last time to do it again before the smart people discover it's the same product made the right way on the second time around.

LOL... I just watched a video where Roman basically said the same thing. AMD is pulling an NVIDIA.

Maybe next weekend I will take it apart again and lap the bottom of the cold plate to increase pressure on the die. The recessed area on the CPU side of the cold plate is probably deeper than it should be.

I suspect it is either a contact issue or something with the fins on the water side of the cold plate isn't good enough. That is what I meant by "didn't have enough effort in the design" in my previous post. I showed this in the video. I might need to lap the die side of the cold plate to increase the contact pressure. I did not have adequate coverage, but you can see where the edge of the die contacted the bare cold plate. Had the fit been well it would have squished the liquid metal across the area that is bare metal. It is also only in the lower left corner in the photo. It should have been visible the full length of the die. Adding more liquid metal helped, but there are a couple of cores getting a lot hotter than the rest with the bare die block. Core temps were very even and close to the same on all cores/threads with the copper IHS.

Follow up after further investigation... It was user error at first, but overall really no improvement. That is very puzzling, but maybe the cold plate didn't have enough effort in the design. It's OK, but so far kind of a disappointment. Not sure if I am going to keep it or not. Will play with it some more before I decide. Still kind of shocking that the temps are not better since so much less material is present between the water and the die.

Well, I installed the Supercool direct die block and my temps are a little bit higher than they were with the copper IHS. The installation was pretty straightforward. The CPU was already delidded, so there wasn't much effort involved. To rule out the possibility of user error on my part, I am going to remove it and check to confirm the liquid metal application was adequate and test once more before I decide if I should go back to using an IHS. This would be the first time ever in my experience that direct die cooling did not result in an impressive improvement. I am impressed with the Supercool 10th Gen direct die block, so I am hoping this is a result of user error and not a flaw in 12th Gen product design. Edit: I had previously done the ILM washer mod so I will also remove them to rule out the possibility that is a factor.

Hey look. MSI released something as tacky-looking, proprietary and stupid as an Alienware, LOL. This isn't a current product, but it might as well be. It certainly fits the current trend in a PC space targeted for children and stupid adults.

I think justice often works itself out in time. Getting money for nothing doesn't really deserve to end well for anyone. Wealth needs to be earned. Even when it is inherited, somebody earned it in the beginning and it is appropriately acquired. Crypto isn't earned and it is intangible. There is no basis to complain about it losing value because it is imaginary money. There is a real basis to complain and be fearful about savings set aside from money earned and years of labor sustaining devastating losses. It is sobering to think some of that might be caused deliberately. It's laughable to think that crypto losses would be given a second thought or carry any weight in that same context. Stupidity and evil are becoming the new definitions for normalcy.

A couple of problems here, at least for me: - There are no current game releases that I care about. All of the AAA and Indie current releases look stupid to me. Even if that were not true, the idea that a free game would be a way of drawing me in is just laughable. - As I am not interested in AMD products, the 6900XT price would need to be around $500-600 before I would grab one. - The 6950XT is a joke from the NVIDIA playbook that smells like nothing more than the equivalent of a 3090 Ti scam from the red side of the aisle - While I do prefer NVIDIA the 3090 Ti would need to fall to about $700-800 before I would consider grabbing one. It would be a minor upgrade for my 3090 KPE (maybe) and primarily a path for replacement of my 2080 Ti. By itself, it is an annoying distraction, an unnecessary product from a deceptive company, not a compelling upgrade from 3090 KPE. So, there you go. My preferred brand is annoying and deceptive. The alternative is from a doubtful, unreliable and uninspiring brand that needs to sell me their flagship product at a price point that is at or near a loss before I would find it a potentially attractive option. Fun times... not really.

Yes the memory temperatures definitely affect stability. It did with DDR4 as well. I had aftermarket heat sinks on the DDR4 memory because once it went higher than about 40-45°C it started having memory errors. With DDR5 I start having memory errors as it reaches 48-50°C. I don't know how high I'd be willing to go with the DDR5 voltage. It's probably close to as high as I'd want to go right now... maybe 1.600V max. The stock memory heat sinks on the DDR4 and DDR5 that I have had are junk. They're just very thin sheet metal that did nothing to help the temperatures as far as I could tell. Temperatures were close to the same with no heat sink. They seemed to be there more for aesthetic purposes than anything else. Naked memory modules aren't particularly nice looking.

Well, the Byski RAM water block lowered my temps by 10°C under load at 6800 CL30. I love how easy that EK manifold makes it to add components to the loop. Literally zero fuss involved. When I receive the Supercool bare die block, I may test if the RAM load temps improve further using thermal paste instead of thermal pads on the memory ICs.

Yes I think you're right about both companies. The only thing that I find that seems somewhat contrary to that, and a bit confounding to understand why any company would subject themselves to such nonsense, is the fact that MC have a concentration of stores in the most business-unfriendly and predatory government states. That's contrary to good sense and hard to understand. It seems like a business run by people with good heads on their shoulders would do the opposite. It is anyone's guess what kind of special/secret arrangements might facilitate operations in an otherwise hostile business environment.

I so wish we could have a MicroCenter here. I don't really understand why there isn't one. There is no doubt in my mind it would be wildly successful, and Arizona is one of the most favorable venues for business due to the very conservative approach, low property taxes, super-low income tax, etc. That is why Intel, AMD, TSMC and Motorola all have huge facilities here. It is also a very tech-friendly enviornment. The state rewards businesses and business owners here rather than punish them... very similar to Texas. Now that Fry's is dead and gone they would have no competition whatsoever, unless you count Best Buy. I wouldn't count them because Best Buy generally only handles the mediocre middle-market consumer product models and components that I'd never consider buying. As a general rule, they do not stock or sell enthusiast-grade components. There are random exceptions, but few and far between. https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/8888/new-stores#latest

Hmm, that's very bad. I have been impressed with the Unify-X so far, but if this level of abject incompetence and service failure is what can be expected from MSI, I am not sure that I will ever consider their brand again going forward. What sucks is the reality that we are left with ASUS, and that doesn't seem better to me (due to truly horrible service and crappy QC). And, the one viable alternative is EVGA, offering excellent products, excellent service, but severely overpriced merchandise, limited stock availability and consistently late release of products. It really feel like everything relating to technology is circling the drain.

Vikings don't have igloos. They have ice castles.

Nothing in mobile computing is worth a damn now. The entire market is 100% saturated with worthless dung from the cheapest to the most expensive option. Even if money were no object, there is not one single option worthy of consideration. The most exotic "high performance" option money can buy is an emasculated, pathetic, ridiculous BGA piece of trash that nobody should waste their money on. Ditto on the cheapest. Throw-away filth... all of it.

Because 99 out of 100 people buying laptops are idiots, and 100 out of 100 companies selling them care about what those 99 idiots are going to spend their money on. It doesn't matter if it is a piece of crap as long as the sheeple buy it, and if they think it's cute and it meets the approval of their flock on Facepoot it will sell like smiley-faced pancakes with sprinkles on top

Well, it took 15 days (ordered 4/25) but I finally got shipment confirmation and tracking information from Supercool Computer on the 12th Gen direct die block. The Bykski RAM water block should be arriving from Aliexpress around Friday.

It is unfortunate to have to provide support for such pathetic turdbook feces, but excrement is all we are left with at this point in time. Being a pile of dung is a pre-requisite for mobile computing devices. That they are is simply taken for granted.

It looks like Brother @Prema is getting some much-deserved publicity on LTT. Mentioned about 14:25 in video.

No, I am not saying Winderpz 8.X is better. It's not. Winduhz 11 has more cancer because it is newer, so from a purely technical perspective Winduhz 11 is worse. It is slightly less ugly than Winderpz 8.X. Both are hideous, but 8.X is more like a tablet/smartphone OS aesthetically so that makes it uglier to me. But, both are unacceptable products, so six of one, half-dozen of the other. Both are reflections of incompetence and stupidity on the part of their creator.

I am sorry, I do not. I hated Windows 8.X almost as much as I loathe Windows 11 and Windows ME so I did not save any product keys, ISO files or drivers for it. Deleting those files gave me great pleasure. It was an ungodly pile of **** OS. Windows 11 is insanely ugly, and a close second place, but I have to say that Windows 8.X was take-my-breath-away, give-me-a-bucket and puke-o-rama level of ugly. An unfortunate reflection on the imbeciles that produce disgusting trash like this. It is probably ludicrous for us to expect anything better from a tech company whose President and CEO is a ~53 year old woman from China. Not exactly PC enthusiast material. Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is very unlikely. She would have to be an extremely rare individual, truly exceptional, (like us,) and I see nothing to suggest we should believe that based on how she runs a company, or how the products turn out that her company produces. To the contrary.

Well, it only makes sense that with so many clowns and monkeys in control that the tech landscape would become a circus. The Macro$lop Monkeys admire the failures of the Cupertino Clown Posse. Children love clowns and monkeys.

They can't won't even do something as simple as securing the border, so it would be foolish to think that they would be inclined to be bothered with the notion of worrying about how dangerous big tech has become. Doing the exact opposite of what makes sense is probably part of the strategy.