Mr. Fox

Agree. 4080 and 4090 should both have dual 12VHPWR connectors. There is too much current getting pushed through a small connector with fewer pins. If you look at the guage of the pins that solder to the PCB, they are also thinner, which further increases the heat on the connection. It would dramatically reduce the heat load on just one if they distributed the current on two connectors, even if you didn't utilize their full capacity. My 3090 KPE had zero issues with 900W+ running through three 8-pin connectors.

I went ahead and got another 1200W SHIFT PSU. I really like the flat cables and side ports. It is so much easier to manage the flat cables versus round sleeved cables, and the side ports free up usable space. The space they occupy on the side of the PSU is normally unused. The cables on a conventional PSU consume space that can be used for something else, like a drive cage or basement pump for a custom loop. All things considered, the volume this PSU and its cables consume is probably about half what my 1600W Supernova PSU consumes. Maybe the fact that it is native ATX 3.0 and has the factory 12VHPWR cable will help avoid socket melting.

It might have turned out better had they used two instead of only one of these dainty little connectors, but that probably would have cut into their profits by at least $1.75 per graphics card, so perish the thought. Comments on that video... all spot on.

I believe it is the connector socket design and NVIDIA's fault for forcing change where change was not necessary and illogical. Instead of the power being spread out over three 8-pin connectors that uses 24 pins and ~2.5 inches of PCB it is a crammed into 12 pins (not counting the sensor wire and three empty sockets) funneling into one inch of PCB. Same principle as using a small guage wire where a larger guage wire is indicated. More power than the small connection can comfortably and reliably manage. Another example of "smaller/thinner/lighter is better" reflecting engineering stupidity.

I like the simplicity of both the EVGA and HyperX keyboards. Not a lot of fluff and gimmicky stuff, just a no-nosense mechanical keyboard with a metal frame and good backlighting. I really like that EVGA has not made any off its software UWP filth. Everything is the vastly superior legacy win32 applications. Keep an eye open for the same price on NewEgg. That is where I bought both of mine for the same price at EVGA's current out of stock price. Maybe set a price alert for $60.

EVGA Z15. They have a clicky type and a not clicky type. I have one of each and wish both were the non-clicky type. You use EVGA RGB software to set the colors and they save to the keyboard NVRAM so the software only needs to run when you want to change something. The EVGA software (like always) is a win32 application, not UWP filth. This is a link for the non-clicky version: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=821-W1-15US-KR

Nah, they're not going anywhere. Honestly, it doesn't matter what brand you choose there are TONS of things to hate and complain about. There are also some things to be glad about. The universal problem that seems to apply to most things, all brands, is poor quality control and abusive overpricing. The people selling things are more dishonest and greedier than ever before, and the people that are buying things are more stupid than they ever have been before.

The 12VHPWR cable is an inferior design in general, unnecessary and has offered nothing more that a reduction of cable clutter as an advantage. And, that is assuming you're not using 8-pin cables with the crappy short pigtails that new GPUs include. It would have been better to have stuck with the legacy 8-pin adapters and made the PCB a few inches longer to provide space for them. The fact that some GPU manufacturers and/or NVIDIA are not providing warranty coverage for a failure that virtually never occurred before introduction of the new flawed/weak/failure-prone 12VHPWR connector is pretty scummy. The notion that exactly the same problem could occur with a PSU cable made by Cablemod should not be surprising, and it seems unrealistic to suggest that one brand would be less prone to failure than any other. That is kind of ludicrous. The fact that Cablemod is covering the cost of GPUs when it is clear the failure occurred when a customer was using their cables show they are an honorable company that cares more about doing the right thing than the companies that sold the GPU. It makes me want to support them even more.

Yeah they're probably at least 10 younger than my daughter, so it seems really weird. The older I get, the more immature and child-like they seem. But, that is not nearly as weird, twisted and sick as people unfit for parenthood taking elementary school kids to drag shows and other equally appalling crimes against children. Other than that, it seems like their dance moves in that video don't match the music playing. It seems like somebody recorded the video of the dance moves, removed the audio and set random music to it that just doesn't fit. I thought that was really odd.

They don't even try to pretend to add value. They prey upon the stupidity of the people that buy their products, and do so shamelessly. Silicon Power, PNY, Team Group and Crucial 2TB NVMe and SATA SSDs are available for ~$65-$70 on Amazon.

The product, the company and their target customer demographic are a good match. We all know what bottom feeders eat to survive.

I don't know that there is a right or wrong answer. Really depends on what you legitimately need or feel compelled to do when you travel and how long the trip is going to be. Unless you need that level of performance away from home, seems like a waste of money. If you do need that level of performance away from home, then I would say the opposite. What I would do (have done) is have an inexpensive laptop that is adequate for the basic functionality needed if I am away from home a week or less. I need/want email and web access, some degree of productivity (Micro$lop Office stuff) and that's it. No real need for gaming excellence or benching. As long as it is fast enough to do what I intend to do and not be so slow that it becomes a source of aggravation, that's good enough. For some people, and almost me, a Chromebook is good enough. As long as it is not a slimy touch-screen piece of crap, has a good screen and keyboard, and a USB port for connecting a mouse, that's about 90% of what I need it to have. It does not need a quality pointing device because I hate touchpads and won't use them except as a last resort. That is very intelligent, reflects common sense and sound reasoning. It's unfortunate that many people that never move a laptop waste their money on compromised garbage when they could have something significantly better for roughly the same or less money. Laptops and smartphones are things that I view as a necessary evil that I would prefer to have no need for, and would not own at all otherwise. As such, they are tools that do not need to be a source of pleasure. They only need to be good enough to do the job and not be overly frustrating or disappointing to deal with.

There could be a plethora of reasons for that. I haven't noticed any marketing spam hitting my junk folders yet that relate to the new Titan. It is only an anecdotal observation, but it feels like speculation and excitement over unreleased products is also more muted than it used to be. The Titan is probably not going to be relevant to a lot of people. It also probably doesn't help matters that there have been a number of examples of overhyped and misrepresented new tech in the past year or two, where the end product didn't clear the bar that was set. Combine that with some of those same products having some unexpected design flaws, QC failures and engineering defects, along with abusive pricing that puts some things either out of reach, or beyond the point of acceptableness for some people. I know I have no interest in talking about, speculation or swapping assumptions about unreleased tech at this point. If find it pretty hard to get excited or want to talk about stuff that you may be fed a string of lies and overhyped half-truths about, might be broken on launch day, and might be priced beyond reasonableness. At a personal level, if it is not something I am planning to buy for myself, then new products of any kind (technology or otherwise) are not things that I am interested in looking at or talking about, just because I simply don't care about those products. That's why you almost never see me in a laptop thread unless someone tags me and expects a response. I just don't give a rat's butt about laptops, and I have no interest in looking at them or talking about them.

It is easier and faster to boil a small pot of water than it is a cauldron filled with water. That's why those little 12VHPWR connectors are so special. The other reason is because the Green Goblin says they are, and we all know that if NVIDIA says so it has to be true.

Newer is better newer. Every time!

What better way to sell your flagship that destroys every other option available by a huge margin--but, with a huge price tag attached to it--than to make all of the alternative options an undesirable, overpriced and lame Mickey Mouse excuse for an upgrade? That is a pretty decent game. I have played it and it's not bad. I am surprised to see it available for free on Epic. Thanks for the heads up. Anyone that doesn't have it should snag it while they can.

As I mentioned before, there is a huge disconnect in their understanding and thought process. They do not understand their target market and they have confused console jockeys with PC enthusiasts. The alternative is they don't care or they are targeting a compromised group of consumers rather than PC enthusiasts. Believing that GDDR6X doesn't offer a meaningful performance gain and that 90°C+ hotspot temperatures is OK paints a picture of a truly clueless and misinformed clown posse. They will remain in the shadow of NVIDIA forever unless these examples of poor judgment are mitigated.

It could be either one, but the outcome is the same either way. Not winning is not winning. Like RIcky Bobby's daddy always said... Well, 3x8-pin was enough for the 3090 KPE pulling over 750W through 3x8-pin. I do not believe the 12VHPWR connector was necessary and I do not consider it to be a real improvement. The one advantage that I see is that it is one cable versus three. But, for the same reason it is more fragile and prone to failure than the tried and true 8-pin cable. Pushing the same amount of power through a smaller connection and fewer wires, in a concentrated spot on the PCB, also makes is hotter. Nothing wrong with 700W. More power generally means more performance. When it consumes gobs of power, gets hot, but still doesn't deliver a commensurately high level of performance is where that becomes problematic. Having no idea about some things seems to be a trend for them.

While it sounds cynical on the surface, the fact of the matter is that has been the excuse/reason for too many years. Lots of near misses and always the same or similar explanation for it. Too hot, too much power/voltage needed, just need to work on better drivers, just need to work on better firmware, just need better support from partnering hardware vendors or game developers. I think they would if they knew how. I think the real problem is they don't know how to win, and don't hire people that know how to win. Part of the time is was lack of financial resources, but that's no longer an issue... so it leads me back to not knowing how, and not really understanding what some of their prospective customers would require as prerequistes for entertaining the idea of changing brands.

I am glad you liked the benchmark scores. I had fun for the first time in a while last night. No need to send money. I don't know if you are being silly or not, but you have demonstrated generosity more than once. That is a great character trait. If you buy the NUC I'll count that as payment for the benchmark scores, LOL. 🤣 Part of it is Intel and NVIDIA are very sore losers and exhaust financial resources on winning. That includes the people they hire, and what seems to be an indication of "winning is more important than how you play the game" mentality. The other part of it is AMD seems to lack experience and drive. They talk like they want to win, but are not willing to do what it takes to score. Using GDDR6 instead of GDDR6X is an example of that. Just that one change would go a long way in closing the performance gap between 7900 XTX and 4090. Using GDDR6 on their flagship GPU in 2023 is just lame. They've been playing in the console sandbox for too long. They're out of touch with PC gaming and overclocking enthusiasts. They hire people that aren't advocates for overclocking enthusiasts and don't really have a clue what is important to us. And, they may not care. Their drivers leave something to be desired.

Yeah, the memory speed used by the GPU matters a ton. A whole lot more than system memory. 2667 versus 3200 would definitely be measurable. This is one of the reasons the flagship Radeon cards can't compete with flagship GeForce cards. AMD still use GDDR6 versus the far superior GDDR6X video memory. In some conditions the performance difference is tremendous. The slower speed and decreased bandwidth of GDDR6 can often present a remarkable performance bottleneck. Totally agree Brother @Rage Setand the comments right below that about Dunning-Kruger effect are also an accurate way of describing Mr. Pottymouth. While he often makes some good points that we agree with (sometimes merely stating what is obvious) he truly is a legend in his own mind. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/dunning-kruger-effect-what-to-know I do not agree with Mr. Grumpy Canuck that Jay or Steve took the issues personally, unless we also believe that everyone (and there are way too many) that has had very bad experiences with ASUS products that are broken, including their trash software and sketchy firmware, are also taking their misery personally when they complain about it publicly. I think they deserve every ounce of hate and contempt leveled at them. They have become a legion of scumbags and a poster child for the worthlessness of the CCP. I mean, it is obvious to anyone paying attention that ASUS is in a state of decline and they have been for several years. Hopefully, they will turn it around and make a comeback. They used to be good, and they can return to being great if they care enough to make the effort. They have the skill, but it is questionable whether or not they have the will. The greedier they are, the harder it is to correct. With big companies like ASUS, it often takes very drastic measures and devastating financial consequences to get their attention, and if they don't act quickly in demonstrating remorse, decisively change their ways and make sure everyone can see and feel that change, their doom will be sealed.

You are sharing that 8GB with the graphics system and there is not much of it. It is also much slower than memory on a GPU. How does the memory clock speed compare to the scores that are twice what yours are?

I actually acquired some points, for myself and for the team. Nice. https://hwbot.org/submission/5275966_mr._fox_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i9_13900k_16sec_572ms https://hwbot.org/submission/5275967_mr._fox_y_cruncher___pi_2.5b_core_i9_13900k_46sec_860ms https://hwbot.org/submission/5275993_mr._fox_pyprime___2b_with_benchmate_ddr5_sdram_6sec_855ms

Maybe if they tie a steak around the 4070 the dogs would play with it.

The good news is, Intel Iris Xe graphics performance only needs to improve a little over 3200% to match 4090. 🤣