Mr. Fox

They may fix it for a reasonable price. I think ASUS charges like $75 or $100 USD when they deny warranty for that reason. I think @johnkssshas paid them something like that before. MSI is probably the same if they have the ability.

Walmart computers are often the stuff that people that have a smidgen of tech knowledge won't buy from a place that noobs normally shop, like Best Buy. I think that is how they end up with the products and sell them cheap. They are the masters of selling inexpensive products to impulsive buyers that don't know much about what they are buying. That is not to say everything they sell is junk, or that people that shop there are all stupid. To the contrary. I shop there all the time and they do sell good products. I like them as a company for the most part. They are just really good at selling garbage to people that don't know better and grab things just because they are cheap... that's all I am saying. They have an excellent return policy, so I'm OK with that. They've never given me any crap about returning anything... ever. I love and respect that.

@tps3443the decal on the back looks like the SN. The numbering syntax follows the same pattern as the ASUS mobos registered under my name that I no longer own. The "SN" prefix is also kind of a give-away. Examples from my account... none of which I still own. The Strix was solid, but the other three were trash. This bears repeating/re-reading... especially the last two paragraphs.

Yeah, I am really sorry to hear that. When you get a good ASUS product they are truly amazing. When you get one that is not, they are garbage. That is why I try to avoid the brand... total crapshoot. It's really unfortunate because they were once the best. Now they are only the best sometimes... randomly. QC lottery is worse than the silicon lottery. I suspect you know now why you got a good deal on it. Someone lost in the ASUS QC lottery and you inherited their abortion. Makes me feel sick for you, bro. I am well acquainted with drawing short straws on flagship ASUS motherboards that turn out to be trash. It is unfortunate that their less expensive models are more reliable. Prime and Strix are generally consistent, but not great for any kind of hardcore overclocking. If you can convince ASUS that it needs to be replaced (and that is iffy) you might have a good replacement in 4 to 8 weeks. Good luck convincing them it's not trash. Be sure to take very high resolution photos of the CPU socket and everything else or they'll find something obscure to void the warranty and make it your fault, even going as far as sending you pictures of someone else's bent CPU socket pins. They are extremely dishonest. I have even heard that having thermal paste on the motherboard has been used as an excuse to deny warranty, and it fits with the lousy experiences I have had dealing with the imbeciles in their tech support department.

GPU is sold. Other items are still available.

OMG, the text rendering problem... it's worse that ever now, LOL. Going back to the 2021 driver. It is even happening in Chrome a little bit now and it only used to happen in Micro$lop Office applications before. In Chrome (posting this information) the missing characters only lag for maybe half a second, so it is only a little bit problematic. At least I can tell what I am typing, but in Office... yeah, worse now than what I show in the above video. Yeah, it is an awesome feature in EVGA BIOS. It should be expected as a basic feature on all enthusiast motherboards. It is inexcusable that a ROG mobo doesn't have the option. It is as easy as selecting "disabled" on the menu for it, and rebooting with the EVGA BIOS. You can get ASUS BIOS mods with the ME removed physically. I think ASUS telemetry and spyware would be broken with it disabled and we know they need that telemetry cancer to survive. Not only is it a security risk for anyone that cares (I don't) it impairs performance. With Intel ME disabled I almost never see Intel Watchdog Timer error when I am overclocking to the edge of functionality. The Intel ME "manages" some things that I do not want anyone to manage but me. My hardware components do not need to "talk" to one another and I think things work better when they can't. Prema BIOS also had the option to disable Intel ME on the X170.

I had a hunch you would end up feeling that way. I used to love ASUS firmware, but they have made such a mess of so many things it's not even funny. They've screwed up their firmware, too. There are a few conflicting settings (especially true with AMD firmware) and a level of weirdness they never had in the past. I really do not like the ROG BIOS at all on the Strix Z690 and it's basically the same menus and features as the Apex with a few minor exceptions. The MSI and EVGA firmware are both very straightforward and do not have obscure settings. ASUS also fails to provide an option for disabling the Intel ME, which really sucks. I am not sure what some users are finding wrong with 3DMark. Seems fine to me. In fact, my GPU score in Time Spy is greater than ever. Overclocked, the GPU is still pulling lot of power, showing 750W+ from the wall per my Kill-A-Watt meter. Hotspot temperature is still being (mis)reported over 100°C (which I believe is wrong since the GPU core max is below 70°C). Everything with 3DMark seems normal or better. I still need to check to see if the text rendering in Micro$lop Office is fixed, worse or the same. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/37359899/spy/36646744 See Graphics scores. New driver is on the left. (Ignore Physics score as the benchmark on the right is 6.0GHz and the one on the left from just now is 5.7GHz.) I just do not see any way that the hotspot temp can actually be what is reported. The delta from other related temperatures is too great for that to be accurate.

AMD drivers have been a mess since AMD purchased ATi. For years... literally. This GPU is fun to overclock. It is also frustrating. But, it is not as locked down as modern NVIDIA cards. While it is a pain in the butt, I can do things with it using the MPT that I can't do on a stock NVIDIA GPU in terms of performance tweaks. It's not anywhere near the quality (hardware or driver) or overall performance as a competing GeForce card, but there is some merit to having some fun with it versus accepting the cookie cutter crippled product that NVIDIA represents today. Unless I use LN2 (which I am not going to do) I am not going to gain any benching points using the 3090. It has taken me as far as it is going to, but it is a MUCH better product with superior drivers. If I had to choose between Red and Green, the Green card would win without question. What would be really awesome is if we could tweak the performance of a 4090 in ways that I can tweak the 6900 XT. It is sad that we can't.

OK, so I made a Macrium image of my crash dummy OS installation so I can test the new driver without having to clean up a mess after the fact. Speaking of "dummy" check out this idiot troll trying hard to derail my thread at OC.net. Too funny that there are still losers like this nitwit on that once great forum. It's becoming overrun by emotards like this fart, LOL. https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-k-ngp-n-hydro-copper-block.1805258/post-29168372 Here is an example of the bug I am trying to avoid. Maybe the new driver will fix it. Otherwise, I will keep using the driver from October 2021 that doesn't have the issue.

And, then there are trolls that feel the need to be seen in the OC.net marketplace like this dumb-dumb, LOL. https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-k-ngp-n-hydro-copper-block.1805258/post-29168372 ...the problem is that he has mistaken me for someone that cares what he thinks. There is a reason I seldom waste my time in that cesspool forum. He is an example why I hang out here and on ExtremeHW.

No, nothing like that. Never any functional or performance issues. I have had it clash with some things (components) because of where the DIMM.2 module is placed next to the memory modules. Depending on how important looks are, it can also clash aesthetically with your memory modules. I would just prefer to have them in the normal place on a modern motherboard. Much cleaner and neater near the PCIe slots under heat sinks that take up no extra space anywhere else. It's putting worthless unused/wasted space to good use when they are in the normal place. Out of sight, out of mind, out of the way. I did have an ASUS mobo that the DIMM.2 slot stopped working and had to be RMA'd, as ASUS have had QC issues in the past with bad memory DIMM slots at well. I think it is their super-duper robot soldering machine army that is so awesome, except for when it isn't.

Awesome. Looking forward to seeing what they are. Be careful. I don't know why (it makes no sense at all to me) but it seems like ASUS CPU socket pins are easier to bend than any other brand. Maybe it is just coincidence that it seems that way, and it is one of their famous excuses for denying warranty support. The DIMM.2 feature is nice. They always worked well for me, but I would prefer to have the M.2 drives in the normal spot if I had the option of choosing. I don't really like having them next to the memory slots. There are some drawbacks to it. It was really cool as a geeky novelty feature when I had my first ASUS mobo with DIMM.2 though.

The average gamer has absolutely zero knowledge about how a Kingpin GPU is different than the mass production trash. It is truly tragic that there are no more of them in our future. Can you imagine what a holy terror a 4090 Kingpin would be with unlocked core voltage, LLC, memory voltage, etc? It would be utterly insane, and nothing else on the market would be able to touch it. It's really nuts that Brother @Papusan hasn't received the firmware and software he deserves for his HOF 4090.

I suppose I could do a Macrium Reflect backup before testing the new driver. I need this to be reliable since it is my work PC. AMD software/drivers put deep hooks into the OS very much like the ASUS Armory Crate cancer feces. After using Revo and DDU I still found trash running in the background from AMD and using Autoruns to disable that made my OSes on the benching rig unbootable with BSOD. I had to restore old Macrium images from before installing the 6900 XT to get rid of the stuff. It really pissed me off, but thank God I had the Macrium images.

Since gaming is not very important to me, and I don't play the games mentioned in the release notes, I think I will pass. The December 2021 driver seems to have resolved my Micro$lop Office text rendering problems and it benches well, so newer drivers probably won't do anything special for me. Newer drivers for anything seldom makes me happy, so I will just stay where I am now and enjoy having things working as intended. The notion that lowering 3DMark scores is going to be OK seems laughable to me. That's not a good option as far as I am concerned. Playing "Meet Your Maker" and "The Last of Us: Part 1" must be really important to some people.

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Please post screenshots showing the Overall, P-core, E-core and MC SP ratings for your 13900K and 13900KS CPUs. Would love to see what both of them really are now that you have a mobo that can tell you.

FS: 3090 K|NGP|N, NUC, Docking Station, Wireless TV Headphones

It is time to sell things I am not using so someone else can enjoy them. I have been procrastinating because I do not enjoy doing this. These items are collecting dust. If they look dusty in the photos, it is because they are, LOL. Price: See Individual Items Condition: Very Good or Like New Warranty: None except 3090 Reason for sale: These items are collecting dust Payment: PayPal, Zelle Item location: San Tan Valley, AZ Shipping: USA lower 48 states. See individual items. International shipping: If buyer is well known and trusted. Actual cost plus any taxes, duties, VAT, etc. I am unable to estimate these costs. Handling time: Next Business Day Feedback: eBay Profile; OC.net MarketPlace Specifications: See individual items RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Hybrid + Hydro Copper Block - $750 ****SOLD**** Condition: Excellent - minor signs of use - functionally perfect and no damage Shipping: Free - includes cost of shipping to lower 48 (or actual cost to other destinations - not free) Warranty: RTX 3090 1044 Days Remaining (as of 4/3/2023) Premium Warranty (would have to be processed through me as original owner) Warranty: Hydro Copper - None (expired) This is an amazing GPU in every respect. It is in very good condition. The original hybrid cooler is included. The lines were modified with QDC fittings for maintenance or inclusion in a custom loop. It functions as new. Has fresh pads, paste and thermal putty on VRMs. I am basically offering someone in this community the opportunity to get the waterblock for free. If there is no interest here, I will install the hybrid cooler and sell them separately to maximize my profit. The block is worth a lot by itself because they are rare/difficult to find. If you buy it, let me know if you want it shipped with the block or the hybrid cooler installed. Note: this item is also listed on OC.net so don't procrastinate RTX 3090 K|NGP|N + Hydro Copper Block BitNUC Intel NUC - $200 Condition: This item is essentially new. Total use (according to the CrystalDisk info) is less than 60 hours. Shipping: Free - includes cost of shipping to lower 48 (or actual cost to other destinations - not free) More Info: Until today I had not even turned it on for 80 days. I turned it on to get the screenshot below. I was going to mount it to the back of my living room TV and my "better half" nixed the idea. It has been upgraded to 16GB of RAM (dual channel XMP 3200 running at 2400 - CPU does not support XMP) and a 1TB SSD added for storage. Fresh Windows 11 Pro installation on 128GB OS SSD. CPU: Intel N5105 Processor with Intel UHD Graphics Note: I will do a Windows reset to remove my account information, etc. I did a video review of it. For what it is, pretty cool. I have no use for it other than my original intent. Docking Station - $30 Condition: This item is essentially new. It was tested and put back into the box. I quit using a laptop for work at home, so no need for it. Shipping: Price of USPS Priority Medium Flat Rate Box (actual cost) to lower 48 or actual cost to other destinations More Info: If you want more photos, I can unbox it. Let me know and I will post them. Wireless TV Headset - $20 Condition: This item is almost new. Shipping: Price of USPS Medium Flat Rate Box (actual cost) to lower 48 or actual cost to other destinations More Info: It was used a few times and I found it more convenient to use my Roku TV phone app and bluetooth. It uses 3.5mm stereo connection so you can use them with a TV, PC, cell phone or anything else that uses a 3.5mm stereo jack. Audio quality is decent and much better than TV speakers. I found the power saving feature annoying. It turns itself off when not in use to save battery and I like things to stay turned on forever until I decide to turn it off. Don't expect Bose quality at this price. If you want more photos, I can unbox it. Let me know and I will post them.

You got a really good deal on it. I thought I saw something about it missing all of the heat sinks. Is this the same one, but they were just not installed before?

Using cable extensions is kind of silly when doing so is avoidable, and adds multiple opportunities for failure. Best to just buy a cable rather than using an extension whenever possible. The difference in cost is small, and the quality is much better, with fewer opportunities for user error.

Sketchy adapters are always something to be cautious about. Poorly made adapters can cause far more issues than they solve, and I have had a few that ended up going back for a refund or tossed into the trash. One of these being poorly made could cause the same issue as not plugging in the cable properly (i.e. fire or melted terminals). Looking at how these are constructed, and given their solid brand reputation, I suspect they will be as reliable as necessary. It took them a good while to release the adapters, so I would hope that means the time was spent for R&D/testing. They even incorporate a thermal solution.

The highly flexible 12VHPWR "ribbon cable" that came with my Corsair RM1200x SHIFT PSU is awesome and they should all be made like that. I love that it is flat and all of the wires are attached rather than individual (like a ribbon cable).

Definitely not a gimmick, unless you have a 12VHPWR cable with a factory right angle made into it, assuming the right angle is pointing the desired direction. I am not sure there are any. I have only seen cables with straight connectors on the ends. This type of adapter allows you to route the cable the way you want it, in a tighter space and without compromising the cable or connecor. It is no different than buying cables with 90° ends on them, which I already do for the reasons of convenience, ergonomics and preserving cable integrity. I have HDMI, DP and USB cables and adapters with both 90° and 180° ends on them. Given the issues we have seen with putting sharp bends in the 12VHPWR cables near the GPU, this has value to add there as well when there is not sufficient space between the GPU and side panel. Let's use my current setup as the example. I cannot route the 12VHPWR cable behind the GPU return line due to the severe sharp bend it would require. While I have enough space to not kink the cable, it lightly touches the door. With the adapter, I will be able to have it positioned behind the tubing, rather than in front of it, pointing straight down into the case. The benefits are evident for both application and aesthetics. That is very strange. Interesting video, but it seems there is no explanation at this point. If I had to guess, something is wrong with the Indium alloy. I doubt the CPU could get hot enough to melt it if the composition of the solder TIM were proper. The air pockets are also very weird. Perhaps something unusual happened in the manfacturing process that allow the CPU and/or IHS to get contaminated before soldering. I know the fab process has to be spotless and climate controlled.

Sometimes inexpensive things can be very useful. I got tired of pulling and plugging cords into outlets. These have a capacity of 15A and over 1800W, which is far beyond the demand of what I have connected to them. Very convenient, like a light switch. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QKPBZX1 Brother @Ashtrix... Glad I already placed an order. Now they're going to get slammed and probably run out of stock, LOL. And more bad news for Windows 7 hold-outs. Steam client is hostage to a dependency on Google Chrome and Steam will stop functioning. I'm glad that most Windows Steam games play fine on Linux using Proton.