electrosoft

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Fixed. The lights are all white now, so it's all right now.

 

MUCH better and looks really nice!

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Has everyone seen the Gigabyte Tachyon Z890? Definitely looks like the Dark motherboards. 

It’s a spare chip, so owner said I could play with it for a while. 

I'd like to say with 100% certainty I'm NOT getting 15th gen.....but I can not. 🙂

As it is getting closer, I'm starting to get that "itch" especially being a new architecture.

Hopefully reviews show it being close enough (or slower even) than 14th gen to scratch this itch adequately. 🙂

Problem is the 4090 is clearly NOT the problem in WoW.....

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Antec C8 is a nice case. I like that it is made of heavy steel instead of aluminum. It's a tad smaller than I would have liked, but otherwise no complaint. The size is between the O11 EVO and O11 EVO XL. The build quality is very good. Two of my fans are getting worn out and need to be replaced (behind the distribution manifold). On those two the LED also looks green instead of white. Just got it back together and getting the air worked out of the loop. Replacements should be here tomorrow. I went ahead and replaced the crappy stock PCH thermal pad and swapped out the G.SKILL for that second kit of TG Xtreem 8200 that I bought from @chibi on overclock.net.

 

 

Nice! I noticed those two fans immediately.

I really like the over/under stacking you seem to use for your setups. Really lets you pack the hardware in there.

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Someone sent it to me to delid, and I gave it a quick test. Then it accidently loaded my 14900KS’s 8600c36 profile with ease, I was like what the heck….

 Two things:

#1. Nice IMC!

#2. That's really nice and cool of you to delid and test chips for others bro.

22 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

Yeah I have been working on memory timings. Bricked it the other day changing memory context restore so has to spend time getting it restored instead of tuning.

Just ran the raids last night on my 7950X3D/4090 and yeah, some big time chunk a few times and fps dipping to 80-90fps a few times in fights. As expected, it isn't the GPU as GPU utilization classic WoW style dipped as low as 51%.

I'm going to rerun them on my 14900KS/7900XTX later for a quick baseline/comparison and just to see where GPU utilization bounces around.

1 hour ago, ryan said:

@Papusan Bro, whats your favorite part of WOW. I heard your quite the gamer, I can't imagine how many hours youv'e logged. lol. joking but seriously I wish I could change my memory timings or overclock it even 100mhz, everythings locked down. I wonder if their will be a WOW 2 with next gen graphics and even bigger worlds like I mean the game has been out for what 2 decades>?

"WoW 2" was a game in development for years called/code named Titan but they ended up turning that into Overwatch as WoW just seemed indefatigable at the time. WoW is still a monster, but nothing even close to the soaring heights of The Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King releases where I remember camping out for my copies and everyone being crazy excited. Wrath of the Lich King was perfection and then we got Cataclysm and things started to decline....

After that, it became very Microsoft in that one would be good then the next would be trash.

Vanilla? Epic

The Burning Crusade? Good

Wrath of the Lich King? Epic

Cataclysm? Not so good.

Mists of Pandaria? Good

Warlords of Draenor? Absolute trash ( I stopped playing this one)

Legion? Epic

Battle for Azeroth? Not so good

Shadowlands? Very good

Dragonflight? Almost as bad as Warlords (I actually quit this one for over a year it was so boring)

The War Within? If it follows the pattern, it should be good. So far, I'm enjoying it.

In terms of my favorites:

1. Vanilla

2. Legion

3. Wrath of the Lich King

4. Shadowlands

5. The Burning Crusade

6. Mists of Pandaria

7.  Battle for Azeroth

8. Dragonflight

9. Cataclysm

10. Warlords of Draenor

The way WoW is now, if you're a new player, you can level 1-50 in a previous Xpac. It makes the game fun if you want to level alts and try an Xpac/era you maybe missed.

Fallout 76 just lumps everything together so all it's expansion content and such just integrates and flows seamlessly.

4 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

I have seen plenty of systems that seem to run fine idling in an outdoor zone but have issues keeping framerates over 30fps during a raid or world boss. Unfortunately getting a character to a place to test those scenarios is much more time investment than a reviewer wants to spend on a single game. It also does not take into account addon performance issues either.

 

The X3D chip does work very well for the WoW engine. Process Lasso is a great tool for managing process affinity and certainly more consistent than using the Game Bar.

Absolutely. Even Blizzard knows "with or without" player data/FX is massive. They have that option for Raid settings in the graphics menu because anywhere there are lots of players along with spell/FX calculations, the CPU gets a major workout and fps dive along with GPU loads.

Project Lasso (PL) really is a fantastic tool not only for AMD but Intel and those pesky e-cores.

Early on, PL was basically the only way I could run a 7950X3D both CCDs enabled and not have WoW (and other games) drift onto the non X3D cores and take a hit. Recently, I've been testing a lot between PL, X3D CCD only and GB only and I'm not really seeing much of a difference but I want to take those tests into the new raids where the CPU takes a pounding.

I also found for Raids, Cities and ORBs that optimizing your memory makes a pretty significant difference especially on Intel systems for the lows. Timings > Frequency (but try to have your cake and eat it too).

In the end, Blizzard really needs to overhaul the engine again and make it truly multithreaded versus the now dual threaded-ish nature it works which is a major upgrade over the single threaded nature it had for almost 15 years.

11 hours ago, ryan said:

oh ok, that answers something ive wondered. My old best friend plays it alot and well I wondered if the expansions improved textures and poly models. interesting, pretty big game, I don't mind lowering settings but will I be able to get the general look of ultra or will it look awful. some games you can lower settings quite low and still maintain the gist of it and have it look pretty outstanding, farcry 3 for example looks great on all low, I get 100fps on low 4k and at ultra around 40fps huge hit for a small gain, and im not attacking the point...some people pay alot for that added crispness in image others dont mind slightly worse graphics. im level 10 or somehting right now, its going to take a while to level up to 70 haha....couple decades at my rate.

It can get pretty rough once you get to level 7ish and lower but for me my priority is always distance view and resolution first then I flesh out everything else.

New content with my array of laptops (some of these will need to go soon lol. My collection is grown again):

My NH55 with the 12900k golden chip, pair of the killer binned OLOY DDR4 sticks and 3070ti handles it well enough at 1080p. I can run Level 10. If a custom BIOS eventually shows up, first thing I would do is tighten up the memory even more and dial in the 12900k even higher. I'd love to get this SP109 14900ks in there with a killer 0.969v 4300mhz V/F point.

My Dell G15 with 13650HX + 4050 does 1080p pretty decently and sits around setting 8

My Acer Nitro 5 w/ AMD 7535HS (glorified 5600x) + 4050 does 1080p around the same setting-ish but the 7535HS struggles compared to the 12900K and 13650HX

My Asus notebooks with Ultra 155h/185h and 3050 not so much and I have to dial it down to level 6 at 1080p and might have to go even lower.

I'll need to retest all of these once I finish questing and doing the normal campaign. With Fallout 76 new content/season and WoW new Xpac, I've been playing a bit of each everyday so my journey is taking longer (albeit I'm level 80 in WoW already).

1 hour ago, ryan said:

no raytracing maxed 4k..80-120fps

All the non Shadowlands / Dragon isles / The War Within zones use the older (circa 2009 and older) textures and renders and the way its designed the older the zone is, the more useless newer/better hardware gets as it runs into engine caps/limitation issues similar to Fallout's engine (FO's engine is so bad, if you hit >=175+ fps, it will start to interrupt your movements). They don't scale like CS's engine does.

The engine was overhauled and updated for Battle for Azeroth and then Shadowlands->Dragon Isles->The War Within continue to enhance upon it.

This is also why I get irritated with YT'ers who go, "Ok, now let's see how WoW performs with my new XYZ setup...oh wowzers, I'm getting 300fps+!! This thing must run on a tin can!"

You will usually find me and maybe a few other WoW players in the comments letting them know the old content can be run on just about anything but they need to step into at least Shadowlands and go take a stroll around Ardenweald or step into Dragon Isles and visit Valdrakken and watch their rigs suddenly start gasping for air.

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The wonderful thing about WoW, though is does scale up and down really nicely.  Even in new content, you can drop your settings down and get a very playable game on a 3060. When I was initially testing my 14900KS setup, I used my spare 3060ti (because it fit inside my test case), and scaling down accordingly, I had no problems zipping around playing at 1080 in the newer content. 4k was a bit more rough though.

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You should keep playing and level a toon to 50 for Shadowlands, 60 for Dragon Isles or 70 for TWW. Alternatively, if you really want to test some of the newer content sooner than later, buy a level 70 boost.

Example of how much WoW loves X3D.....

This is the same testing I've been doing from turning each CCD off/on to comparisons to both active and confirming proper sleeping. His results are right in line especially at 4k (which he is testing) and a 4090 really makes the gap even wider I've found even at 4k. His tests are on a 6950XT w/ RT disabled. As long as you turn RT off, AMD cards are pretty beastly in WoW.

8 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

 

 

 

yeah shit outta luck, just received their response today:

 

 

so looks like ill be getting me a second AM5 HPHS and sell off the current one on fleabay 😄 5C difference is definitely nothing to sneer at!

Their logic is sound, but still a nice freebie always soothes the soul. At least we're in a place in life where we can afford to buy the next version/revision. 5c is indeed nothing to sneeze at atoll! 🙂

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Funny how many overclocking enthusiasts started out as gamers and then became so engaged in overclocking that they didn't really care that much about gaming anymore. Vince is example of that along with me and probably a ton of other people. From the sounds of it, he prefers the same game genre that I do as well.

 

I was into overclocking and PC gaming but they were basically mutually exclusive until Deus Ex dropped and I wanted to extract every bit of performance I could to run it at higher resolution. That was my first system I overclocked everything I could. CPU, GPU and RAM and spent just as many hours tinkering with overclocking it as playing and that is saying something as I played a metric ton of Deus Ex on my PC.

Now? My desire to extract as much performance out of games drives of overclocking even to this day along with just liking to overclock and tinker on its own too. Something about extracting as much performance as possible for gaming tickles my fancy.

13 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Yep looks to be a good IMC, just know that when you turn HT off, these chips will gain a tremendous amount of ram OC head room (I don’t think it’s a MONSTER though), some can run 8800c36, or even 9200c42 “depending how good it was before with HT on of course lol”, so it’s kind of like removing one thing, to gain OC head room in another. I guess 20c ram temps is air? 🤷‍♂️ I have no idea. Water cooling is air cooling technically, maybe that’s what he means. Those ram temps like mine though. 
 

 

See if you can reproduce those results or what is the hardwall of your CPU?

Sheesh @tps3443 look at this monster IMC!

14900KS

8800/9200 on air....

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29367089/

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

I purchased it in Nov-2023, so its already been 10 months.

 

While I get your point, the way that Roman / TG presents this is not a mere process improvement, but rather a problem that was identified with their product and is now being fixed. While the heatspreader technically "works", in this context I rather see this as a defective product that now gets a fixed revision. In that regard, it shouldnt matter how long ago I purchased it 🙂

 

I mean, after all, a significant temperature reduction is exactly what this product is advertized for...

I mean if I was in your shoes (that would be odd though :)), I would ABSOLUTELY take a shot in the dark for a replacement with the better coating job and 5c reduction, but I would do it knowing I'm throwing a hail mary. It's not like it hasn't been functioning these last 10 months.....

It says the process was "updated" not "a defect was corrected"

You say "defective"

I say "improved"

🤣

But either way, here's hoping they send you the newer model at no cost bro! 🙂

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Reminds me when EVGA suddenly discounted the KPE 3090ti by $500 and it had been over a month since I bought it and I reached out to them and let them know such a drastic price cut didn't sit well with me so soon and they credited me back the difference.

Was I entitled to it? No, but I was very happy they saw it my way, acknowledged my very polite BF and credited me back for $500 smackers.

I remember my last email to CS being, "Thank you so much and I look forward to buying your 4090 KPE on release!" (AWKWARD! 😂)

21 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

something VERY interesting I stumbled upon by chance a few days ago when this video was uploaded by Roman:

 

 

so the above mentioned issues with their TG waterblock also affect their high performance heatspreader for AM5 (Roman mentions this in the vid, but its basically just a side note, you can easily miss it. he mostly focuses on the waterblock).

 

Checking the TG website for the AM5 heatspreader I found this note:

 

 

Link: https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/heatspreader/s-tg-hphs

 

So we are talking of 5C or even more of thermal performance that got lost due to the nickel coating! Looks like Ill have to re-purchase the heatspreader to get the updated version before I consider buying Ryzen 9000 X3D....

 

Welp, at least I can still sell off the V1 sku on ebay I guess to make up for some of the loss 😄 

 

Although I like the transparency of TG on this issue, I find it leaving a bitter aftertaste in my mouth, as I dont see any option to replace my TG heatspreader with the updated version....hm, I might reach out to them about this. What do u guys think?

 

Edit: Just contacted TG via their website contact form to ask for a replacement with the updated sku, lets see how this develops.

How long have you had this one? I mean, if it has been months or even a year+, I don't know if I would feel comfortable asking for a replacement skew over a 5c delta. Improvements and refinements in products is part of the process and you tend to pay for them.

On the other hand, if you just purchased your block recently, I can see reaching out for a replacement block.

Whether they'll replace it not, we'll see. 🙂

21 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Can't be much worse than BulldoZen5. Isn't this special? 

 

Abysmal Zen 5 sales allegedly result in "the worst launch since Bulldozer"

AMD's latest Ryzen 9000 processors have seemingly suffered a terrible launch with low sales. The situation, according to the leaked information, is so bad that AMD distributors are receiving substantial requests for returns...

For the average consumer, these chips offer nothing over the 7000 series and new motherboard pricing is even higher.

All of us (or close to it) 7000 owners on these forums skipped them. That wasn't an anomaly.

The only bright spot is over the last few years, DDR5 prices have come down and 6000 sticks can be had for crazy cheap.

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, maybe this won't have an undesirable ending like all the others before.

I do think the whole GN fiasco has put them on guard and a lot of cases they were previously instructed to reject and/or attach user responsible costs are now being resolved properly.

Same with GN and Newegg.

Shady, shady practices to heighten profits versus taking care of the customer.

54 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, ASSuS received my dead Apex Encore motherboard yesterday, but they haven't updated my RMA ticket to reflect receipt of it. I hope this doesn't go like my past experiences with these retarded monkeys have gone.

 

If they don't take care of me I may replace it with a Tachyon. I refuse to purchase a 4-DIMM POS motherboard and it's really the only 2-DIMM alternative to the Apex/Apex Encore at this point unless I downsize to ITX. @electrosoft how is the Z90i Lightning? Any regrets? Compared to the Edge?

 

From 5:48 in the Doofus comparison video...

 

 

No regrets and better memory overclocking but like all ITX boards, even the Lightning, it will hit a power wall due to the single connector and lesser stages depending on how hard you push your CPU. Initial testing (I don't recommend this) with a dunked/chilled ID Cooling 280mm I saw it up around 400w so it can handle some juice but I'm sure those VRMs will give up the ghost sooner than later if not the power delivery but it has thee best power delivery of all Z790/Z690 ITX boards on the market (14+1) vs the others (10+1).

Tachyon looks to be a really good board. If I wasn't going ITX, it was on my consideration list.

The fine gent I purchased my SP109 had a tachyon for sale on ebay for cheap because it is missing some covers here but it looks like it finally sold today at 7:49pm.

2 hours ago, ryan said:

@electrosoft I noticed WOW is on geforce now. I was wondering since you seem to still love the game, whats a good starter pack. im getting back into gaming I think because of my mental health I think chess and some games would be good for me along with bike riding. need to keep busy. I played WOW a few years ago and found it relaxing much like my racing games, also I don't remember but can you chat with other people in wow or just friends?

Xpac starts at level 68 (max cap 80). Since it is new, that would be my end goal at this point.

To have fun casually leveling, they let you pick most of the previous Xpac's to level up through to at least level 50. My favorite Xpac to select from their list via Chromie is still Legion or you can't go wrong with Wrath of the Lich King which is probably the most popular Xpac of them all.

And yeah, you can definitely chat with everybody but it's a blessing and a curse. Chats can get spicy and some think WoW's user base is one of the most toxic. I can't exactly disagree. Get ready for sudden outbusts about politics and religion..... (As I do everywhere, I just ignore this).

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Not exactly pure stock, but not too far off. I’m running my own XOC profile for my ram. 8600c36-49-49-49-63 with 262k tREFI and fully tuned secondary timings. This 8600 profile increases my Vmin/Vmax by 0.027mv-0.029mv over 8200c40 xmp. This profile is stable for anything, so I don’t touch it unless absolutely necessary. It has built a pretty tall brick wall in stability over all of the reboots and re-trains since I’ve been running it for so long now. 

I didn't even acknowledge the memory in this testing since you're using CB23 which really doesn't move at all with memory settings. 🙂

Did you create tuned 8200 and 8400 profiles too? If so, let me take a looksy and see if I can get them to run on my system now that SA is not an issue.

11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Apex Encore motherboard failed last night. It had been giving me trouble off and on for a month or two not completing POST and hanging with a green light and Q-code 99, but pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del one or two times had allowed it to complete POST until last night. Thankfully it is not the CPU.  Swapped CPU, RAM, GPU, removed all NVMe and SATA connections and tried  moving keyboard and mouse to other USB ports, but no change. Tried doing the recovery flash on the BIOS, which completed successfully but did not change the behavior. It goes through all of the normal startup routine, as expected, but hangs at the very last part for I/O initialization. The monitor power light comes on like it is receiving a signal, but never has anything on-screen.

 

I obtained an RMA today from ASUS, paid $60 for shipping (boo!) using their label. But, they will returning it using ground (slow and cheap) shipping. Hopefully they won't try screwing me over like they have in the past. Took lots of pictures in case they try pulling the "physical damage" or "bent pins" liar routine like they have with so many people (including me). Hopefully it won't be a month long wait like it has in the past.

 

Maybe all of the recent negative publicity about their warranty service will change the dynamic. Crossing my fingers.

Ouch, sorry to hear.

Nothing worse than when a MB starts to act flaky then eventually goes down but better it than a good CPU. Hopefully the replacement has equal or even better traces for memory OC. I still remember my Taichi Z390 replacement and the dud memory OC it had compared to the original.....I also remember my replacement EVGA FTW Z390 that went from a good board to a monster board.

Sheesh, $60. Hopefully like you say no shenanigans. Maybe let them know you have Steve from GN on speed dial?I liked EVGA's RMA process where they would request pictures of the socket before authorizing.

🙂

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have not seen that on OC.net forum so I am not sure. I will have to look.

 

This isn't quite that low on load voltage, but very close (1.225V, so less than 0.010V difference)... This is with the P-cores set to "auto" and E-cores set to 47x all core. Similar Cinebench score as well, but with lower P-clock and higher E-clock.

 

Yeah, de8auer has been pretty active lately when the temps were coming back on one of his blocks. I wasn't sure if it was the one you re-tested or another. 🙂

Your ring bus is a lot higher too (4.5 vs 5.2) @Mr. Fox I think @tps3443 was doing a pure "5.9 stock" run (5.9/4.5/auto (4.5) run and absolutely pure auto run w/ 6.2 boost.

Good news, last small update for WoW seems to have fixed the issues pretty quick with the 7900xtx.

I've been running some tests comparing my 14900KS 5.6 fixed profile vs 5.9 auto profile. I took my foot off the brake (undervolting) a touch and now even Wukong runs fine on the 5.9 auto profile so all is well.

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I did some more testing in WoW with the 7900xtx and the 14900KS thinking 5.6 and 5.9 will basically be the same but I'm seeing ~183fps with 5.6 and 202fps with 5.9 everything else the same for some fixed vantage testing (Ultra 10, 4k RT OFF). I know WoW is one of the most CPU dependent/responsive games out there, but I wasn't expecting this big of a gap so I'll need to figure and lock down a good flight run to really collect some more data. I can swap CPU bios profiles back and forth and repeat this consistently. I even took my 5.9 profile and just adjust the multipliers back only to 5.6 auto only keeping everything else the same and still saw that drop in fps.

This fixed vantage spot in Hallowfall (one of the new zones) is at 8200 CL34 tightened up and the profiles are the same except for 5.6 fixed all core and 5.9 auto. 5.9 does draw about  ~30w more than 5.6 but that's to be expected.

I haven't even tested with APO yet which supports WoW.

On 9/7/2024 at 3:02 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I have to put in a plug for Thermal Grizzly. I purchased the Mycro LGA-1700 Direct Die block and it performed poorly compared to the IceMan Cooling block. I emailed them and asked for an RMA, provided the before/after temperature comparisons. They did not do an RMA, just apologized and issued a refund. 

 

Fast forward a few months, they contacted me, totally out of the blue, and offered to send me the updated product. I didn't ask for it. I replied and accepted and they sent it. Works great. Essentially the same thermal performance as the IceMan block. I like the design of the cold plate better. It has a rim around the die to contact the PCB, which adds support and spreads out the compression of the PCB into the socket instead of the die being the only point of contact. And, it makes a dam to keep the liquid metal confined to the die area.

 

These results are without the chiller, in my hot (79°F) office.

 

More extended stress test...

 

Whoa, that is very good on TG's part! Is this the same block De8auer has been posting about on the OCN forums and getting it updated and working properly and basically laying the groundwork for Socket 1851 ?

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have to put in a plug for Thermal Grizzly.

 

 

Which one?

50 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

2,000 hours on my OLED now. I wish I could capture its actual picture quality. But YouTube kind of reduces how it really looks. 
 

When you play the video below, adjust it to 1080P, and keep it small. I think that’s pretty close to how it looks. 
 

 

Game changer.

This 32" Alienware OLED 4k display is just so beautiful especially with HDR enabled. I couldn't go back if I wanted at this point. My wife's Samsung 1440p IPS display looks so dull now. I asked her if she wanted an OLED... "I'm fine. I don't care about that stuff." 🤣

I have a ~5yr old 65" Sony FALD ZF9 and I do love it, but my next display might have to be a 70" OLED.

46 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I always thought the two-core boost was really cool! I always use this option every day. On all my chips, 13900K/13900KS/14900K/14900KS. It seems solid with no signs of degradation from using this on LGA1700 or even LGA1200. I am obsessed with CPU stability, real ram stability, and also CPU degradation lol.

I wanted to do a comparison of Auto voltage fixed core 5.9Ghz and also the Auto voltage 5.9-6.2Ghz, just if anyone is curious what it looks like. 

Run #1) 5.9Ghz locked on (8 Cores) Auto voltage DDR5 8600c36.
5.9Ghz Vcore MAX: 1.305V.
5.9Ghz VID MAX: 1.304v.
Load Vcore: 1.217V.
Package temp: 70C.
Idle Power min 16.3 watts
Package power Max R23 single core: 84 Watts.
Package power Max multi-core: 314 Watts.
R23 ST Score: 2,277.
R23 MT Score: 43,377.



Run # 2) 5.9Ghz (8 Cores) 6.2Ghz on (2 Cores) Auto voltage DDR5 8600c36.
6.2Ghz Vcore MAX: 1.403v
6.2Ghz VID MAX: 1.405v.
Load Vcore: 1.217V.
Package temp: 70C.
Idle Power min 15.8 watts
Package power Max R23 single core @6.2Ghz: 90 Watts.
Package power Max multi-core: 313 Watts.
R23 ST Score: 2,395
R23 MT Score: 43,389




It is important to note, that my best two cores only reach a max voltage of 1.387-1.396V. Since this is the case, I can lock my voltage to this ceiling and during low loads my voltage will never surpass this on any cores, because only the best cores #4 and core #5 are hitting 6.2Ghz. In the above scenarios the voltage is just auto/default.  So, it will kind of go where it wants to on all of the cores, even if only two of them are hitting 6.2Ghz. Fortunately, either setup is full auto, and both run really efficient regardless. We have the same nice low load voltage, only a slightly higher vcore for during 2 core loads when the chips hits 6.2Ghz. One just allows a +300Mhz advantage on two cores. I did not mean to highlight this font like this, it copied the font of the IMG url's I posted. Also, the average voltage seems comparable between the two in my time investigating this. 




 

Looks good! 🙂

For core boosting  on my pure auto profile, that looks just about right. My 6.2 boost in CB23 is ~1.392 max load so 1.405 and 1.387-1.396v range is spot on. Temps aren't the problem here. Scores are 2377-2392 so right in line.

Asrock reports 6.2 V/F at 1.484 for my SP109.

I keep it at 253w/400a limits so it power throttles and scores about 39k-40k multi but your setup will probably do much better since I think our 5.9 V/Fs are the same (1.378v). If I let it fly unhindered power wise in CB23, my AIO gives up the ghost. 🙂

This 5.9 all core auto profile pretty much covers every game including all UE5 shader games except Wukong. That thing is a monster for my setup.