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7 hours ago, Talon said:

 

I picked up the Intel B580 Limited Edition from Newegg, traded in an old RTX 2060 KO to Newegg (they gave me $104 for it) and the Intel GPU is awesome. Incredible value card for $249, well actually only $145 after the trade in. And they through in a free game and 6 months of Ubisoft+. 

I think I'll pick one up for my nephew who is still rocking the original A380 I picked up on Intel's initial launch when I built him his first gaming PC. He's been rocking it for over a year now and loves it but said a few games run a little slow (It is an A380). A B580 would be a monster upgrade for him.

I will of course have to, ummm, certify the card first with some testing and data gathering before passing it on to him. 🙂

6 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Also thinking about running my 4070 Super and selling my 4090 Strix today. I've got multiple offers at $1500 local cash, and I think I'm going to take it. I don't need a 5090, but I know myself, and I know I'll do foolish things. I feel that's pretty fair value given I've used it over 2 years. 

Yeah, I went back and forth over selling it because it was a monster bin and gave me almost two years of rock solid service but with prices holding so nicely atm (late november / early december) and knowing myself that as soon as the 5090 dropped I wouldn't look at my 4090 the same I was left with no alternative.

If I purposely go lower spec I'm always ok with that. I've done it before and I don't regret the cost savings. So if I pick up a 5070 or a 9070XT, I'll be ok because the cost savings cancels out the remorse.

If I held onto the 4090 and the 5090 dropped knowing I could have sold it for what I bought it for and picked up a 5090 later? That would eat at me as I would still end up either selling the 4090 at a greater loss than if I had sold it a few months prior and then still either pick up a cost effective card or just empty the till and get a 5090.

And you were right. The 4070 Super is an absolute banger at its price point. Obviously not a 4090, but less than a third of the cost and provides ~half the performance.

9070XT is launching by the end of January so reviews will be out right about then to get an idea. Hopefully newer rumors trump @Papusan's links but knowing AMD......

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sad to share this news, but there were no interested buyers and the infamous @Enterprise from ExtremeHW.com (for years at overclock.net as a lead moderator before he opened ExtremeHW)  is shutting things down for good. I enjoyed interacting with several guys there and doing the hardware reviews.

 

If anyone has the time, desire and resources, you could take it over for free (no purchase)...

https://extremehw.net/topic/3923-extremehw-site-auction-bidding-ends-jan-1st/?do=findComment&comment=48336

 

So sorry to read. I had a membership over there, but didn't frequent it as much as I should have. The costs aren't too high to take it over (~$235/mo), but I'm sure time invested in actually maintaining it can get high. Yet again, kudos to @Reciever for keeping the spirit of NBR alive here at NBT. 🧡

Definitely a big *IF* with the 9070xt, but we know major advancements (for AMD) in RT for the 9070xt and if it is within 5% of a 4080 performance that puts it more towards 7900xtx than not. Then it comes down to pricing. $700 for near 7900xtx / 4080 performance and major advancements in RT? That is viable pricing depending on how Nvidia comes in with their 5070ti pricing. I hope ithe 9070xt comes in around $550 - $600, but I'm thinking $700 because "Greed is Good".

If it is in the 7900xt range, $600 or lower is viable.

Nvidia is just too strong on the top end 5080 and up. Maybe even 5070ti and up so Intel and AMD will go to war with nvidia on the lower and mid levels.

Let's not forget the 5070 is capped again with 12GB of VRAM so it looks like 5070ti is going to be the potential main competitor to the 9070xt.

B580 12GB 3060/4060 slayer for $250 is a major shot across the bow.

Hopefully AMD keeps the party going mid range.

My potential options:

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I have no problems picking up a used 7900xtx if I go that route.

Based on 4070 Super performance, I'm definitely curious about 5070 performance

9070xt will be interesting to see what it brings to the table

As always, I may not be able to resist the call of the 5090.....kicking myself as I place the order for a kings ransom 🤣

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I think a lot of it is with the 4070 Super I've had to turn off RT and I'm not really missing it (but still would take it). Even with a 4070 Super, I'm seeing CPU limitations in Raids and PvP which might just be a reality of the WoW engine it is so poorly threaded. Fallout 76 as noted before runs like a monster on X3D chips and the 4070 Super is pegged at 100% all the time on the 14900KS at 59/46/50 so I know I'll need something beefier to get a consistent 120fps everywhere especially on the 9800X3D as Fallout 76 does dip into the and 70s in multiplayer scenarios with the 4070 Super pegged at 100 unlike WoW.

I will admit while I use this 4070 Super as a stop gap device, the Radeon 9070XT intrigues me. It feels like when Nvidia went totally bonkers with pricing with Turing that I took a time out and skipped the 2080ti and picked up a 5700xt and used that exclusively till the 3090 dropped. It kind of seems that is happening again.

The 9070XT is now reported to use standard 8-pin connectors again (some models will use up to three), is within 5% of the 4080 so in striking distance of the 7900xtx, much improved RT and if AMD can come in at  $600-700 price point and match the 5070/5070ti, they may have a very viable alternative on their hand.

Either way, a very exciting CES coming up soon!

So I picked up a 9800X3D combo deal from newegg because I'm a glutton for punishment....

....but seriously, I'm seeing pockets of GPU utilization dropping into the 80's on the 4070 Super (which we have to remember is performing like a ~3090-3090ti depending on game) even with the 14900KS at 5.9 8400 tuned so I'm just going to have to itch this scratch which I attempted before but had a bum 9800X3D and a defective open box x670e Hero so I took the @Talon route and scooped up an X870e Hero + 9800X3D + free 48GB G.Skill kit + $50 discount from Newegg to give a whirl making the total combo about ~$950 before tax when all is said and done deducting the cost of the free G.skill sticks and $50 discount.

This is also turning out like my adventures in laptops and DDR4 where I can't seem to NOT have at least 3-4 laying around at all times even after sell offs. Now I have my TG 8200 2x24GB, G.Skill A-die 2x32GB,  G.Skill 2x48GB, and Crucial Pro OC 2x16GB 6400.

For DDR4, I am finally down to one last DDR4 board in the house (my original Z690 Strix D4) and one last DDR4 2x16GB (Awesome B-die kit I picked up from @Mr. Fox running at 4100 tuned on the Z690 Strix D4).

Same plan still in effect. If I stick with the 9800X3D rig, I'll give my wife the entire 14900KS setup and sell off her Z690 12900k setup. Nice boost from 5.2 to 5.9 all core for gaming and 4100 -> 8400.

I can return the 4070 Super all the way up to Feb 3rd, so should have some clarity from Nvidia on the 5090 by then.

1 hour ago, Clamibot said:

Looks like Clevo is starting to pull their heads out of their butts. Still soldered crap, but it's a massive upgrade over the X370 abomination that is completely undeserving of the Xx70 moniker: https://videocardz.com/newz/clevos-x580-next-gen-laptop-specs-leaked-arrow-lake-hx-cpu-and-geforce-rtx-50-gpu

 

This is a nice 18 inch Clevo DTR, so it's good to see them starting to go back to what they once made. It doesn't have an upgradable CPU or GPU, but they increased the drive slots from 3 back to 4 and also increased the RAM slots back to 4.

 

Gives me hope that Clevo may return to full socketed models one day.

If they can get to the level of an MSI Titan w/ better cooling and better pricing that is a solid step in the right direction.

Still can't see why a full fat x670/x870 laptop hasn't been made considering the bulk of AM5 chips can run no problem sub 200w unless their one foray into AM4 laptops was a sales disaster. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

It will be interesting to find out what is accurate after it drops. I don't care about the X3D part so much because gaming is a secondary consideration, but having matched CCD quality would be welcomed and beneficial for overclocking at long as the multipliers are fully unlocked.

Agreed. While X3D is important to me, a double binned 9950X3D would be equally important. The lesser binned CCD always rubbed me the wrong way when I had my 7950X3D.

Pretty much confirmed single CCD X3D on the 9950X3D..... 😞

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-cpu-z-specs-leak-max-5-65-ghz-clock-170w-tdp-and-single-3d-v-cache-ccd

On the bright side, it looks like both CCDs might be the better bins and clock up the same so there's some hope there:

Merry Xmas everyone and Happy Holidays!

16 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

Well, temps didn't change on my newly delidded 9950X, @Mr. Fox thinks it's because I forgot to purchase liquid metal, and used standard arctic silver 6, as do I. If that doesn't bring the temps down to the same level as Mr. Fox's, I will purchase the same block as him.

Using standard thermal paste after a delid for DD is like buying A5 Wagyu and cooking it to well done.... 🤣

What block are you using now?

Adventures in water cooling continue for moi.....

Also @Mr. Fox picked up a large assortment of G1/4" on OC. 7 pairs should cover me there (for now). Pump/Res combo is in from XSPC. Just going to use industry grade soft tubing from Home Depot or something like this.

Thinking of this Alphacool for the front 420mm Rad 15% site wide and that in between thickness.

Still debating back and forth between the Alphacool Alpha and Heatkiller IV Pro Pure Copper blocks.

56 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Very informative video that cuts through all of the silly nonsense and deceptive marketing hype associated with storage. PCIe 5.0 is really a waste that steals resources from motherboards and attached components that could be put to a much better use (extra M.2 slots, SATA ports and PCIe slots).

 

 

For many systems and testing, I still use a couple of 2.5" Samsung SSD 860 drives so I don't have to taint the NVME slot while making sure the MB is worthy for whatever it is being deployed and I really am pressed to feel the difference in most scenarios.

I have 3x 980 Pro 1TB and 2x 990 Pro 2TB in my collection for my systems and I only recently upgraded to those 2TB because I run my storage tight but the games I have had my 1TBs struggling for breath so I upgraded both my desktop and primary NH55 laptop to 2TB each when they were on sale. The wife still runs an SN750 500GB, but she's due for a clean install soon (same install for about 1.5yrs now on W10), so I'll move one of the 1TB into her system.

If anyone is still in the market for a 285k,  Provantage has tray 285k's in abundance.

https://www.provantage.com/intel-at8076806419~7ITEP9HR.htm

Earlier this week they had ~ 1252 in stock and they've only sold ~54 of them, so they still have a healthy 1198 in stock and the price dropped a smidge to under $600.

With the 285k in such microcode/W11 flux at the moment, it will be interesting to see where final performance lands around summertime.

Besides gaming, I do think it is a very solid CPU all around and in most instances provides better performance than the 14900k.

Still waiting on the 9950X3D and CES Nvidia 5000 series unveiling.

Edit: They got more in stock today. Current inventory count = 1587.  🤣

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, they are totally legit. But, they are primarily a local storefront. Many things they sell are not available for shipping, and must be picked up in person. Much like MC only a whole lot smaller.

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Totally accurate. They are not a 24/7 e-tailer focused on internet sales, but I have found them pleasant to work with and I had no issues at all with the trash bin 14900KS I returned to them because it was rubbish.

They are definitely easy to work with and usually have multiple customer service reps working on your order. I've received updates from multiples many times.

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I don't use it anyhow. No need for silly bloat like that IMHO. I felt the same way about GeFarts Experience and do not install it. There is nothing I can identify to suggest a good reason for me to install the new NVIDIA App or GeFarts Experience. I am very sad with the thought that the no-nonsense legacy NVIDIA Control Panel will be going away. It's going to suck having to install the App trash

This. I keep my driver installs as lean as possible.

7 hours ago, tps3443 said:

It’s for the ltx gold 10900 system. That thing absolutely sucks without no dedicated GPU. The iGPU is more or less useless the motherboard only has HDMI out, and that can only run the desktop at 4K@24HZ it’s really a poor experience. 
 

I may run it on the Dominus in the future in a pinch if I sell the 4090. I had a modified bios with Rebar added on my other Dominus.
 

Also, check this out. So, I sold one of my Dominus boards right. So before shipping it out, I pulled my daily Dominus and installed the other Dominus that I bought on eBay as “Not working/Un-tested”, wanted to do a good thorough testing with 192gb ram all slots filled just to make sure it works 100% before shipping to someone as “Working”, I briefly tested it before with 1 ram slot just loading in the bios, so I wanted to do a full Windows load, run a game with it etc. Turns out, this one doesn’t have the cold bug 🤣 and this one is using some much older microcode that is just blistering blistering fast. So I ended up shipping my daily Dominus to the buyer and keeping this eBay Dominus instead. 😎 No cold bugs, and OG Microcode before all the Spectre meltdown stuff. Buyer was assuming board would have cold bug anyways, because I didn’t know if it did or didn’t lol. Also, I knew  that my Dominus was absolutely 100% reliable. So It really ended up working out better. I also sent the buyer the parts to repair the cold bug as well. (My Daily Dominus included a whole reel of small SMD’s to repair the cold bug that it had) so I sent him some of these. 
 

Central Computers literally just gave me an update. Ordered early Friday morning, tracking provided Tuesday afternoon. 🙏

Looks like a double win, w00t!

27 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Anyone else ever have problems ordering from Central Computers? This is the 2nd time this has happened on orders. I’ve only ever ordered two things before from them. But they just never complete the order, and it never gets to shipping. I feel like something is up. 
 

03/15 I ordered a 14900KS on Monday morning, 2 days went by and it just sat in “Order processing”. By Wednesday evening I cancelled the order and was refunded. 
 

12/13 I ordered an Intel B580 after receiving the in-stock alert. The order has just been sitting in “Processing” since 12/13. I feel like I may have to cancel this one as well since it’s 12/17. 
 

I’ve never had this problem with Amazon or Newegg. Does anyone else have this happen to them? It feels like a central Computers has a really long processing time or maybe ordered are getting left unattended to. Was hoping to get this Intel B580 by Christmas. Now they show “Out of Stock”🤷‍♂️

They're a much smaller operation than a normal online e-tailer. You can always call.

When I ordered from them, I found out they do zero work on the weekends and your orders are just queued up for processing on Monday so if an item is in high demand you never really know and that includes ordering on Friday. I actually placed my order on a Friday and heard absolutely nothing from them when I ordered a 9800X3D before snagging my Newegg one.

It sat in limbo all through the weekend and into the next week till I contacted them and it was backordered by that point even though it showed "in stock" when I had ordered it so I cancelled my order.

You might want to actually call them or email them to get clarity.

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Just ordered an Intel Arc B580 Steel Legend. May be off loading the 4090 soon for a good price. 

 

 

What about 7980XE or 9980XE? 

Joining me on the sidelines? 🙂

I'm rocking this 4070 Super with a 60 day return window if needed. It is doing well enough that I could limp along with it for months on end if needed. No coil whine, handles FO76 just fine, WoW can get dicey sometimes but not a deal breaker at 4k but had to drop it down from 10 to 8 and now 7 w/ RT off so I'm feeling it and its small bus and less than half the 4090 power.

I've already decided if the 5090s are just beyond stupidly priced with idiotic tariff adjustments in place to top off insult to injury,  I'll just ride this for an indefinite length of time or return it and then pick up a discounted Aqua 7900xtx for my loop build out or 8800xt depending on price/performance.

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's odd. I have not experienced either of those issues and I use Zoom at work and it works fine. Did you get the out of GPU memory playing games? I don't play games a whole lot, but haven't run into that with COD or BF, Crysis titles, etc.

GPU out of memory was directly linked to 13th/14th degrading issues and/or bad/unstable OCs. I could force one on my 13900KS by running it on its edge with my substandard cooling. I never have  encounter one on my SP109 14900KS.....ever.

Only used Zoom on my 12900k systems (laptop and desktop) and zero issues.

27 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

 

I have found a lot of the AMD and Intel guys are a bit heavy with their emotions and brand loyalty. I totally understand that AMD has grown in to a great performing CPU and it’s definitely not just the value chip anymore. But people completely throw rationality out the window sometimes. My brother is a huge AMD fanboy. I get in to debates with him via text/call like all the time 🤣 Sometimes it really feels like he’s gonna get AMD tattooed on his cheeks man. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's interesting. I wonder why? Production issues? Or a NewEgg issue?

 

Edit: It looks like a production (stock availability) issue for both Ryzen 9 CPUs and the 9800X3D. AMD has only the undesirable Ryzen 7 models and below available on their web store. The good CPU supply is gone. 
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-wider-availability-next-quarter/

 

Makes sense.

Amazon was taking 9800X3D orders and kept pushing the delivery dates out till they reached early February and stopped taking orders. That was a few weeks ago.

I'm fine waiting and seeing where everything goes. Gives me time to finish selling these last few things and hunker down till Feb/March for a potential 5090 and make space while slowly piecing out this water loop over the next month or so.

Pretty sure I'm going to go with a 420 in the front and a 360 on the bottom to keep the rest of the upper portion clutter free for working within it with soft tubing.

19 hours ago, electrosoft said:

So I've been using this x670e Hero to tune back in my 6000 on this 7600x. Set up some other profiles, and get it all ready for the hopefully replacement 9800X3D.

 

I go to test out some fans on it and the bottom three fan headers are defective and keep shorting with fan(s) plugged in. Other fan headers work ok.

 

So in summary, Amazon Resale x670e Hero:

 

1. Missing CPU heatsink brackets

2. Missing thermal pads

3. Previous owner used some type of thermal grease I can not get the stains off the heatsinks

4. Lower three chained 4 pin fan headers are defective

 

Fun re-tuning the memory on it though. Back to Amazon Resale it goes.

 

 

And as expected, Newegg messaged me totday to let me know the 9800X3D isn't in stock and won't be for the foreseeable future so they're refunding me the entire balance.

Thus ends my current AM5 saga. 🙂

Back to the "lowly" tuned SP109 14900KS....

I have to say I got so used to the 4090 at 4k gaming, I was used to seeing both X3D and Intel gasping for breath and the 4090 rarely hitting usage cap in both WoW and Fallout (especially Fallout, where it would drop to close to 60% many locations), but 4070 Super? 99-100% just about everywhere but very playable especially in Fallout.

Like I said, in Raids and PvP I had to begrudgingly flip on the Raids/PvP graphics option so I wasn't dipping into the 50s in WoW. 4070 Super is taking a pounding.

WOW

FO76

So I've been using this x670e Hero to tune back in my 6000 on this 7600x. Set up some other profiles, and get it all ready for the hopefully replacement 9800X3D.

I go to test out some fans on it and the bottom three fan headers are defective and keep shorting with fan(s) plugged in. Other fan headers work ok.

So in summary, Amazon Resale x670e Hero:

1. Missing CPU heatsink brackets

2. Missing thermal pads

3. Previous owner used some type of thermal grease I can not get the stains off the heatsinks

4. Lower three chained 4 pin fan headers are defective

Fun re-tuning the memory on it though. Back to Amazon Resale it goes.

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I took the 9950X out today and cleaned it all up, and is ready to ship to brother @Mr. Fox to do his magic. He's been having all the fun, and I wanted to get in on some of it.

Nice!

So @Mr. Fox you are our official AM5 delidding service now? 🙂

2 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Didn't come out as nice as I had envisioned (hard tubing was hard to bend LOL) but still was a fun build:

 

 

Just a test at 4.6Ghz:

 

Nice! Yet another reminder why I'll be going with soft tubing. It always looks great but I'm in and out of the systems too much

🙂

@Mr. Fox I'm leaning towards the Alphacool Core 1 Aurora as it seems to be on par with the Heatkiller and is compatible with AM5 and Socket 1700. Any insight or is the Heatkiller compatible with both too?

Igor shows ithe Aurora basically equal with the Heatkiller for 13th/14th and a smidge better on AM5.

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Probably all too late. Greed come at a price. 

 

'I want to acknowledge that we messed up': NZXT addresses concerns about its controversial Flex gaming PC rental program and commits to taking action

 

"I want to acknowledge that we got caught participating willingly and gleefully in predatory lending practices to pump up our valuation, dump old stock and please our new investors." - A more fitting statement....

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have all of those mentioned and the XSPC Photons are hands down my favorite based on how they are designed.

 

That said, the Eisbecher Auroras are very nice and well built. 

 

Beware of the Photon X4 units. They are made well, but they use a proprietary XSPC pump. Otherwise, they look the same as a D5 and function the same, but good luck finding a replacement X4 pump if you need one.

 

Titan Rig has Photons on sale 25% off. https://www.titanrig.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Photon

On your recommendation, I went ahead and picked up the XSPC Photon D5 aRGB model since it was on clearance and had an additional 20% off making it a total of $137.69 after discounts and cashback.

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It reflects badly on NZXT for sure. But, I think it reflects even more negatively on the people that signed up for such an idiotic idea, because they lacked common sense to such a degree that they could not recognize how stupid and fiscally foolish it was. Taking advantage of stupidity isn't nice, but it is not the same a using deception, fraud and treachery to mislead otherwise intelligent people into believing your lies. They didn't do that here, they just took advantage of idiots. Bad, but not the same magnitude of crime. Being stupid is a tragic thing.

I think it is a mix of both. My son in law (bless his heart) wanted a gaming PC so badly he rented one from Rent A Center which at least was "rent to buy" but by the time he finished all the payments it was going to cost him $3k for a $1.5k PC. I told him to take that POS right back and built him the equivalent for $1.2k with a better GPU, CPU and more memory.

He's not alone in that mentality and not thinking things through. Many focus on "can I afford the payment to have this item now?" versus doing the math and exploring better financial methods to obtain those items because they can't or won't think long term. I've even dealt with that mentality with family and friends trying to explain to them how much money they will end up losing and many times their response is, "I just want it now."

Then you throw in companies like NZXT who take gross advantage of that mentality to absolutely abuse the financials of buyers to such gross extremes it HAS to be called out and luckily we have "tech influencers" (gag) with enough clout and standards to make companies change their ways because the tech sector is a finicky beast and sales can turn on a dime.

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GN has its issues. Steve is not the best presenter, long winded and prone to sensationalism but he does get the job done and is thorough in his fact finding and bringing companies and organizations to task.

He has a few times stepped over the line a bit and was reeled back in though. Good example is GN vs LTT. He had the momentum but then went a little too far and could feel his crowd turn on him a hair so he dialed it back.

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Heatkiller Pro IV CPU waterblocks are amazing. I actually like them as much as the Optimus CPU blocks. My favorite D5 pump/res units are the XSPC Photon (getting hard to find) and the Alphacool units. Both have thick glass tubes, which is the only way to fly. Steer clear of acrylic reservoir tubes as they crack and scratch too easily. The XSPC Photon glass tubes are insanely thick glass and molded with threads on each end that literally screw onto the pump body and end cap on the Photon tubes. They cannot separate over time and leaks are not even a thing. Likewise, the Alphacool Eisbecher Aurora have 4 metal rods to keep the glass tube sandwiched between the top and pump body.  Avoid any that simply rely on rubber o-ring compression like rigid tubing compression fittings. They are bad about leaking and internal loop pressure pushing the top off the tube (Primochill D5 pump/res for example).

XSPC Photon D5

Alphacool Eisbecher Aurora D5

 

Thanks! I'm leaning towards the XSPC but AC would work too.

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

It’s working extremely well now! I downloaded just the regular version and set the “Cryo” mode. I saw the idle temps go from 43c to 20c in like 20-30 seconds lol. After running R15 the max temps were much much lower. I love this cooler. This is actually really impressive seeing this. 
 

This 10900K seems to be a gem so far. I ran R15@5.3Ghz and it only hit 180 watts max. This is madness. I remember hitting 298 watts on a direct die 10850K on custom loop cooling. And it was a really good sp85 chip. So this chip is not delidded at all, and only on an AIO, it’s absolutely killing it. I’ve got to put this thing on the chiller/big boy extreme loop. 

The magic of binning! 🙂

51 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

It’s strange because it is quite the opposite for other chips. Using my 3175X I can run R15 at 5.0Ghz probably lol. But R23 is gonna hit limits at 4.7-4.8Ghz range. So there is something with the instruction used on a 13/14th gen chip that makes R15 the toughest of them all. 
 

 

@electrosoft @Mr. Fox I really had to take a close look to even see a motherboard inside that big case at all!!! Wow. Where’s it at? 🤣

Everything has shrunk!

Asrock Z790i Lightning + SP109 14900KS + TG 8200@8400 sticks + 990 Pro 2TB + MSI 3x Ventus 4070 Super

CPU went from gasping for breath to waiting for the 4070 Super to catch up. 🤣

@Mr. Fox and @tps3443 on a serious note, I'm looking for the best bang/bunk (aka cheap but performs relatively well) AM4/5 / Socket 1700 CPU block and D5 pump/reservoir combo. Thinking of pulling the AC LF 420 and putting a 420 + 360 Rad on the bottom loop in the case.