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Are you sitting at 100% utilization during the run? Stock, my Gigabut 9070xt Gaming OC is hitting a bit higher...might be the 9800X3D flexing a bit... I know I uploaded that video of it running through the benchmark: Those memory temps are about right out of the box. My memory was hitting 90 peak under load too. Hotspot around 85 again out of the box stock: Yeah, just like the 4090 I'm not going to fret over it. I plug it in, do some OC'ing, benchmarking, play my games and if she blows she blows. GPU Tweak III lets me know as I've switched to its OSD. We both know the odds of it blowing are slim to none. (Tonight on the 5090 in Fallout 76): https://imgur.com/gzuWJmTo show how poor the 9070xt fairs in this game (but still plays nicely), this same encounter area it was clocking in at 62fps..... But when you find those games and titles that let it stretch its legs, it's got some chops. https://imgur.com/gzuWJmT Seriously, MSRP vs MSRP, 9070xt is an absolute stud. There's a reason AMD can't keep them in stock while AIBs pump them out like crazy while you see 5070s and soon enough 5060ti's start to lag in sales. That's also why you suddenly see Nvidia talking about a 16GB 5070..... And yeah, I did like having those 3x 8-pin cables running.... 😞

I just run GPU Tweak III w/ its default OC +300/+3000 no voltage adjustments and that's about it w/ the ugly tentacles and pin monitoring. low fan noise, no coil whine just purring away. It just runs perfectly for me, but as we've seen with MSI, how the hell do you cut corners with the most dangerous part? Like I remind everyone, including myself, "it works perfect!!!" till it doesn't.....

Hey! I didn't make the video! I'm just linking it for educational purposes! 🤣 At least some good news after the dead CPU. Makes me wonder how it would do on a 1DPC board though but everything else looks good! Congrats on the happy buyer too in Italy!

Yeah, this is all the day before D day (1st) which was always my set return day since the bill is due a few days after that. 🤣 I played WoW for 3hrs last night on the 5090 and noticing all the areas even when flying around that cap out on the 5080 FE and 9070xt vs the 5090 always ready for more or running a few tier 11 solo delves and sitting at frame cap (238fps) most of the time and just ultra silky smooth. Ran some raids in my fixed D2D OC profile with GPU Tweak III and just smooth.....even when fps dipped into the 70s still smooth.....The problem with the WoW engine will always be when all that player data hits in certain moments, your 5090 will perform like a 4070 Super or 9070xt. Same with the 5080FE. There's just nothing you can do about it. The engine CPU physics need to be overhauled badly. Tonight is 3hrs of Fallout76 where the 9070xt is just not good just like the 7900xtx was poor too versus Nvidia. Nothing worse than outdoor bosses and the frames just chunking into the 50s and 40s on AMD vs always 100+ on Nvidia. This will be my first serious session with the 5090 tonight versus running around and benchmarking..... Did I mention how absolutely gorgeous and smooth Deus Ex MD looks on the 5090? Final Analysis: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 9070xt is going back either way as it has strengths in other games but WoW and especially Fallout 76 is not it. Decent 1440p and to an extent 4k WoW card but I can't trust it with AMD/Blizzard history of breaking drivers plus the fact it still crashes on the regular in Classic WoW. Final nail in the coffin is the poor FO76 performance overall versus even a 4070 Super let alone the 5080 FE or 5090. I'm still impressed overall with the price:performance at MSRP. For $600 it is an absolute banger albeit I paid $$771 after tax so back it goes. So then it now comes down to the 5080FE vs the 5090. I know I can sell the 5080FE and make $400 on it so mentally it becomes a $1500 card for resale. I can use that to put an almost 50% dent into the 5090. I know for a fact I can ride the 5090 for a few years and then sell it off and make back the bulk of what I paid and maybe a touch more depending on how this market goes. Therein lies the blessing and the curse with Nvidia cards, especially their halo cards the last few cycles and even AMD and their 5700xt and my 1080ti. I sold ALL of them after a year or two at worse for a tiny profit and some with a hefty one. So either I'm walking into BB tomorrow with ONE card to return or BOTH and I would just continue to rock the 5080FE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know, I know, first world problems to have all three laying around and having to decide which one(s) to keep.... 🤣 Nvidia is purposely holding back raw performance in the lower tiers and trying to push AI solutions as an overall "performance package" and that is BS. When Jensen said a 5070 had the performance of a 4090, that was all you needed to hear how they plan to shape the future of gaming advancements as a major piece of their strategy. The fact they and AIBs are trying to "encourage" reviewers to discuss talking points involving upscaling and frame generation. Even trying to discourage some reviewers from discussing comparing the 5000 series mid and lower tier cards vs the 4000 variants but instead focus on 2-3 generation older cards. In the end, Nvidia needs AMD or Intel to drastically step up their game or like @jaybee83 said, we're going to eventually be stuck with marginal cycle upgrades because there's no competition like we had with Skylake++++ until AMD started to wreck them and forced their hand to move quicker which they couldn't and here we are. We need another 6000 AMD series surprise where Nvidia was legitimately caught off guard with the performance of the 6900xtx and it was basically matching the 3090 up to 1440p and only at 4k did the 3090 manage to gain a very small amount of breathing room. Nvidia's only saving grace was their RT performance. I will say as time and drivers move on, the 5090 is widening its lead over the 5080 and 4090 and in some titles it is pretty substantial. I know I didn't expect the 5090 to be that much faster than the 4090 in WoW. ------------------------- Remember early reports were AIBs weren't making much of a profit because of Nvidia charging so much. You also have to calculate in tariffs as these cards are being made real time versus other companies selling pre-existing stock so the tariffs haven't really "hit" yet but will as levels are depleted and either stock dries up or prices go up (or both). I do know there are now plenty of sane priced combos on Newegg that are languishing since yesterday including some flat out solo cards from Gigabyte and MSI now ready for purchase. What continues to sell out though are Astrals including those $6k combos again.....insane. Speaking of Astrals, nice no holds bar build out with an Astral air and LC unit and comparing performance and temps. Air model performs just as well and better on memory temps overall. To get the same temps (+/- 1c), Rad had to be mounted on the front and used as intake which makes sense. Speaks volumes for the chonker heatsink on this thing.

Most approach computers as a tool to be used like a dishwasher and treat it as such. Fine for a dell office computer. Not so much for a 5-6k rig running top of the line hardware including a 5090. I swapped my Astral 5090 back in with a clean install to compare against the 9070xt for D2D gaming at 4k. The 9070xt lulled me into a false sense of "this is good!" 5090 is obviously superior in every way, but is it $729 vs $3359 superior? Is it $999 5080FE vs $3359 superior? Or is it having the absolute best gaming/benching experience price be damned good? This is my philosophy exactly. I only buy used and I drive it till it falls apart. I am driving a 2016 basic Nissan Rogue that I will drive easily for the next 5-6 years or until something catastrophic happens or not worth fixing. I have no qualms with my friends and family that upgrade their cars every three years though. That is their choice. I'm currently running 576.26 when I gave my system a clean install to put back the Astral 5090 for more testing compared to a clean install Gigabyte 9070xt for realistic D2D use and further cost analysis. I'm leaning towards returning the 5090. Superior in every way and a good bin but the cost whew..... but we'll see tomorrow which card goes back. What's the newest version?

Couldn't have said it any better myself @johnksss. That has been the point I've been trying to get across for sometime now and you summed it up quite nicely.

Yeah, the one thing your card is saying to me is, "please put me in an SFF!" Seriously, it with a 9800X3D in a proper case? Like a top mounted variant that exhausts from the top? Magic SFF build bro.... In all seriousness, If I had your 5090 FE instead of an Astral, I would build out a top exhaust SFF and probably jettison my MSI 18 and use the SFF w/ 9800X3D for travel with my 18" 144hz USB-C powered display. Then you can come at it like B4BG: Push for that max OC inefficiency be damned or UV and let your chips silicon quality shine through.....

I agree when it comes to WoW and especially FO76 where Nvidia rules the roost. 3080 10gb has just been an absolute workhorse beast. It is quickly headed to the 1080ti goated status at its original MSRP. Some games shine better on AMD than Nvidia. WoW loves Nvidia and always has since the major engine overhaul several years ago when they added in RT support. From that point on, the smart play has always been to get Nvidia for WoW. One thing I will give the 9070xt and I can't put my finger on it yet is its smooth, even play at lower fps vs the 5080 or even 5090 in WoW. Spots where I felt like the 5080 chunked a bit the 9070xt just keeps it moving even in raids or outdoor events. In Testing Games comparison of the 9070xt vs anything, its FT graphs are always much smoother than I've ever seen from AMD cards. I played quite a bit of Fallout 76 earlier (found a new testing spot), and even when fps drops to the low 60s on the 9070xt, it was just so smooth. Having logged hundreds of hours on Nvidia cards on both WoW and FO76 for a few years including the 5080 FE and 5090 since January, the consistency and smoothness of the 9070xt really stands out at the same settings at lower frame rates than Nvidia and it is perplexing. ----------------------------------------- Decent video..... Jufus basically saying leave the 5090 FE as is also hitting all the same salient points I made about itx heaven, runs hot not really made/worth blocking...yet I very much want to see it blocked and shunted.... "The best overall 5090 for 90% of people is the 5090 FE" - makes total sense. Sad to see Canada also is paying some insane prices for 5090's too along with low to no stock levels but price conversion wise, USA is just getting raked across the coals right now compared to former countries we routinely had lower prices for years. 😞 And like he said, 600w will have you having SWAS (Sweaty *ss) in a small computer room sooner than later..... 🤣

"Profits above people" extend to all facets of corporate America. The most egregious of them all is the healthcare industry as profitability is grossly incongruent with offering optimal, financially sane care for American citizens.

Running some tests comparing the wife's 3080 10gb Strix vs the 9070xt in WoW. She plays at 1440p, but I tested both at 1440p and 4k. I'm thinking of cancelling the 5070 and giving her the 9070xt instead. Problem is in WoW I think the $549.99 5070 will plant itself much closer to the $729.99 9070xt than the 3080 in WoW. I'm also not sure the uplift is worth the disruption at this point. This is at full Ultra 10 w/ RT at max 1440p: Hallowfall: --------------------------- 3080 - 105fps 9070xt - 142fps -------------------------- Oribos: -------------------------- 3080 - 116fps 9070xt - 150fps -------------------------- 4k: Hallowfall: --------------------------- 3080 - 70fps 9070xt - 93fps --------------------------- Oribos: --------------------------- 3080 - 66fps 9070xt - 101fps 5080FE - 115fps 5090 - 186fps ---------------------------

Too many small limitations on the FE this time around. I know I dig in on ya for fun (light hearted ribbing), but the FE will not be setting the world on fire this iteration. It's strengths lie elsewhere (aesthetics, engineering, compact size, price). You notice the Gigabyte vBIOS coupled with the Astral too. Like @johnksss said and to further I keep pressing is a 5090 FE is still a 5090 and a monster card out of the box that will lay waste to everything out there and blocked and 1 stage shunted you will extract every bit of performance out of it to let it flex as hard as it can but even in a game of inches it will still fall short due to several factors compared to the top dogs. It's not a knock on it at all and I hope you're not taking it personally bro. 🙂 And you are spot on with your rig limitations. It's fun and nostalgic and has its pros and country charm but it just can't keep up with modern hardware from your former 14th gen platform to an AM5 platform. Even a 285k will outpace it to extract as much performance as possible from your 5090. Now you get to think about what you want to move to next. Back to 14th? 285k looks like a lot of fun to tune up. AM5 is a proven winner. Nice score! I see that GB vBIOS. 🙂 I'm afraid, but I'll give it a run later to see if my ear drums explode. 😁

Yeah on all my Astral 5090 screenies and benchmarking results reports, ALL I use is Nvidia's monitoring tools. My last big post with the card comparisons for the 5080 and 5090 was all Nvidia's tools. You gotta figure they know their hardware better than any other external monitoring tool and it works well enough for my needs to a point. Go back and look. I just customized the screen read out because I like it to the left, vertical and in red w/ a larger font but that's Nvidia's statistics reporting utility (Alt+R baby). I use AB when I'm doing fps session grabs to get average framerates via Rivatuner and/or usually overclocking, albeit I used PX1 for that last session for both the Astral and FE. For AMD, if you go back and look at some of the first DXMD pics, you will see AB and Adrenalin on screen at the same time. Using Nvidia's OSD, I'm hitting 2745mhz on the 5080 FE stock and 3030mhz OC'd 99% util in WoW so based on your older posts, that is right in the neighborhood of your stock clocks. Both our FE's have subpar voltage caps at stock. DAMN!!!!! I'm so sorry bro. 😞 I've killed a few chips over the years pushing them too hard. Still hurts to see it happen. They aren't cheap! A proper sorting of the universe would have your replacement 9950X3D having a monster IMC and run ice cold. Next question is, do you plan on delidding this one? Awesome! Congrats @johnksss!! Which block are you going with? Go by your results. You're overthinking a good, solid, average very well priced card. Just enjoy it. I can't imagine stressing this much or coming at it from so many directions to extract water from a rock. I would just focus on the price, aesthetics, potential lack of coil whine and the fact it IS a 5090 and keep it moving.....

Agreed, I am really impressed with it. I haven't felt this good about AMD since the 5700xt which was inferior to the 2080ti but I opted to rock that that for a few years till the 3090 dropped. I'm seriously contemplating that again. I was very pleased to see the video and spreadsheet I was using as a reference was incorrect and the Gaming OC provides the same power and performance as the Elite. I just really like either minimalist blackout build or that uniform lighting "industrial borg" look of the system. When I get crushed to the face with an over abundance of rainbow RGB it hurts. Only reason my keyboard is all lit up like a rainbow is because I refuse to run the Steel Series GG software. I think that was a smart move to sell off a lot of hardware, downsize, clean up and get some clarity financially. My tech fund I built up with the last sell off would be in the negative if I keep the Astral 5090 and MSI Raider 18" along with the Crosshair + 9800X3D combo I picked up. Something has to give. I still do have a nice list of hardware to sell off though I'll get up on Fleabay and the OC forums but with all the hacked accounts over there I'm a bit wary atm. Nice baseline set of data to publicly set in stone before "The Tinkerage" starts. 🙂 Did you block your 4090 Sujprim or run it strictly on air? Do you plan on blocking your 5090?

9070xt installed and clean install of Windows 11 Pro for the next few days as my daily driver. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Day 1 and I'm finding a lot of things I like an don't like. Likes: GPU is stupidly quiet with no coil whine GPU runs crazy cool under load Boosts to 3ghz+ right out of the box. Highest I've seen so far is 3230 While it was rumored to have the weaker 304w vBIOS, it actually has the 340w variant and has pulled up to 371w Minimal lighting and is quieter under load than the 5080 FE and Astral 5090 which were both already very quiet Very stylish looking Dislikes: Terrible issues with flickering with HDR enabled. The 5080 and 5090 have them too but nowhere near like the 9070xt. I just keep HDR off till I want it on for gaming. Same as I did with Nvidia. While lower than many other 9070xt's I've seen, the hot spot in the 80s along with the memory hitting 90+. Yes, I know that's within range, but I prefer my temps lower. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In WoW, it is hitting ~98fps in the new test spot 4k ultra RT max with 99% utilization: This puts it at: 9070xt = 98fps 9070xt OC = TBD 5080 FE = 115fps (~18% faster than 9070xt) 4090 = 125fps (~28% faster than the 9070xt) 5080 FE OC= 126fps (~29% faster than 9070xt) 4090 OC = 135fps (~38% faster than the 9070xt) Astral 5090 = 186fps (~90% faster than the 9070xt) Astral 5090 OC = 210fps (~114% faster than the 9070xt) 5090 OC vs 4090 OC = ~56% faster (whoa!) I'm actually very impressed with the 9070xt on the newest Adrenalin drivers released a few days ago (25.4.1). It has cleaned up a lot of issues in WoW including the stuttering and chunking with RT on. I spent a few hours playing and zero problems. If things stay the same right now, and I was a WoW player and MSRP was in effect, I would pick a 9070xt over a 5080 FE because the price:performance is just better. If price wasn't too much of a consideration, I would then go with the 5080 FE. If price is NO object, the 5090 is just a wrecking ball. The 9070xt is faster in WoW than the 7900xtx and the 5090 just obliterates it in the scariest fashion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @Mr. Fox Deus Ex MD problem fixed. After a lot of trial and error what was happening was playing around with MSAA in the pre-launch menu was for some reason sticking even when disabled for some reason dragging performance down once in the actual game. Here is a video giving the 9070xt a proper run with all the options checked in the video menu before benchmark so you can install 25.4.1 and give it another go and double check my work: And the actual results: ----------------------------------------------------- Lastly is Fallout 76. I happen to find a few spots that push the 9070xt to ~96% util which is good! I have my bud with the 5090 FE actively trying to find the most graphically demanding spots in the game to see how hard we can push the 5090. I plan on joining the hunt when I switch back. Stay tuned....

PX1 results on my 5080 FE Stock boost lock = 2827 / 1.015v MaxV slider = 2887 / 1.035v Sub 3ghz across the board = decidedly average (maybe a touch below at sub 2900) but still a beautiful card. 🙂 5090 is ~62% faster than my 5080 FE stock for stock (186fps vs 115fps) 5090 is ~~67% faster than my 5080 FE OC vs OC (+300/+3000 on both 210fps vs 126fps) This is the first test with both capped out to 99% on the same drivers (576.02) / install. This Astral 5090 just wrecks it and applying the same OC, the gap just gets wider with the much better silicon in the Astral and cooling. I'm going to install this 9070xt next and give it a proper clean install to give it every chance it has to get where it needs to get to shine as bright as it can. WoW results with the 5080 FE: Stock: OC +300 / +3000 (same as Astral 5090):

Where does it land with zero voltage adjustments? If I were you, I'd sell/trade it for better silicon and more normal PCB AIB model to block and then have fun vBIOS hopping then crank up the chiller for some weekend outings. You can wrap the 5090FE price around yourself like a warm blanket, but it's going to eat away at you. but then again..... .....buying a more expensive model doesn't guarantee you anything and it really is all over the place with these cards. I swear it feels like CPU binning a bit. People will start asking for tested/binned variants sooner than later. It happened with the 3090 and 4090. My 3090 bins were....ok. 4090 was a very good GPU bin but just a kinda good memory overclocker topping out at +1600 max for benching. The other identical 4090 liquid was absolute trash and couldn't do over 2900mhz'ish full OC'd and memory conked out at +700 if I remember. The variance is bonkers. Still, in the end, a 5090 is a 5090 and the worst bin is absolutely a monster of a card. No coil whine is a 100% win in my book. Prices also went up on their low end cards. The $599.99 9070xt's are now ~$659.99. The Gigabyte 5070 SFF I actually had queued up for on launch with B&H for $549.99 is now $604.99 and they emailed me that it was available for buy. Gigabyte gaming OC 9070 not-XT is now $669.99.... Asrock Taichi 9070xt went from $729.99 to $849.99 on NE These are all sold and shipped by BB and NE.

Good find! So silicon lottery is in play again as always.... 😞 If someone is dedicated enough I can see binning cores and memory (if we're ever allowed to exceed +3000) to compete. I mean, I'm clearly not sad for my Astral but still. I think we always have to remember all that is promised out of the box is the advertised performance... ....we also have to remember most products also come with a 15-30 day return policy or you can sell them off (like CPUs) to friends/family/clients who will never, ever overclock and a 5090 is a 5090 is a 5090 to them. What does your FE say boost locked with PX1 w/ and w/o 100% slider? For me, it comes down to coil whine. I'd have to hear it at >200fps+ and TS GT2 run to see what it's working with coil whine wise. 50% fans on these FEs is definitely audible but then again I'm running an open case. True, even the most average FE should beat a good sample 5090 if it is blocked and shunted. 🙂 Looking forward to before and after results.

I know over on the OC forums and 3Dmark, XOC/Shunt modded cards are dominating. For @tps3443, that block is crucial for shunting considering the, ah, tight margins on the FE cooler. Here is my Astral vBIOS. Give it a whirl everybody....hopefully you all get awesome performance out of it. Oh you dropped it. Here you go... 🤣 Astral5090.rom

Banger of a card @johnksss especially if you block it. My Astral is in the neighborhood but your clocks are the chef's kiss! Mine is clocking very nicely, so I know yours is going to go to that next level especially if you block it and shunt/XOC it. (FYI, this is my first time punching either boost lock or voltage slider) Stock boost lock: voltage slider in "fun times" mode: Do you plan on getting a block though? Are you going to shunt first and run it on the stock HSF? It's gonna kill me seeing you tear it apart especially as I'm sitting here showing my buddy over FT how quiet a FE CAN be with the 5080 FE.

Hoping it's a banger @johnksss, but then again with your past work on so-so/average hardware..... I knew your Founders stood no chance of staying in its pristine condition! 🤣 Like I said many days ago when you were just talking about adding pads or something along those lines.... "and it starts." 😁 Definitely can't wait to see it shunt modded and blocked bro!

So the PNY Epic-X Overclocked ARGB 5090 at $3399 now costs more than the Astral at $3359?? Hmmmm, I will have to watch a review on it. I have no idea what the game or premise is about. Well yeah, if you're pushing clocks a crash is obvious but the idea is to be able to recover without a hard reset which I've found to be the case with 576.02. Maybe things will change when I actually start pushing voltages and power limits vs everything now being at stock power config? Dunno....

5090 + 9800X3D WoW 99% utilization Stock vs OC (+300 / +3000) = ~13% uplift. Yeah, I'll take that. I didn't realize my OC was only +300 when I took that first OC shot in Oribos so some room to play with later. 5090 OC 210fps (+300 / +3000) vs 4090 OC (+210/225 / +1500) 135fps = ~56% uplift. I'll confirm this by testing the 5080 FE here and extrapolating vs 5080 FE stock vs 4090 OC. Also test 5080 FE stock and OC in the same location too vs Astral 5090. I expect the gap to close down to ~45% Stock: OC: Whoa..... Just give it a clean install! 😁 noice! congrats! I keep telling myself the same thing with this expensive piece of gear aka Astral 5090: "You know the last 4 cycles since the 1080ti, you've sold all your GPUs after a few years for as much if not more than you paid....6090 will probably be a train wreck....AMD sucks again for WoW compared to Nvidia with problems galore on the 9070xt....240fps in delves at 4k Ultra with the 5090"

lol, I'm just glad to have a new testing spot that can cap out this 5090. My old spot, especially overclocked, just had the 5090 giggling.... "MSI Suprim 6090 with 48gb of memory now on sale for $3999.99!!" I'll be curious to see your results, but since 576.02 zero hard reboots. I just give it a few seconds after freezing and it recovers. I will readily admit, I didn't expect the 5090 to have the extra room in the tank.... Oh, TSE is my overnight 6hr run since it simulates a max length (in theory) gaming session for moi. My final boss. It is probably a holdover from when I used to use P95 for my CPUs and an hour or so would pass, but 5-6hrs would root out instabilities. Same as my CPU and memory final stress tests. If I can pass a 6hr run, I are super golden to my standards. I can't get onboard for 24hr runs for some reason like others for CPU/GPU/MEM. 1/4 of that is MORE than enough for myself. Still, an hour is probably good enough..... 😁

We found it! 5090 99% Utilization in WoW even overclocked! Oribos, my old friend (Shadowlands) to the rescue! The former stomping ground of GPU slaying rises up once more. 🙂 This will be my new test spot for GPUs in WoW from this point on. If it can bring a 5090 OC'd to its knees (well, I mean 210fps but still), can't wait to see how the 5080 FE does....

It really comes down to having the ability to extract as much performance as possible out of your 5090 by being able to flash vBIOS from other makes and models without being restricted by Nvidia. I mean, it is their in house model being offered so I get it, but they've done this before. No way I'd run 1k as a daily, but fun benchies? Yes please. Beefy enough heatsink to handle it? Double yes please. As @jaybee83 pointed out, lack of dual bios on the FE is a negative too just in case..... The blessings of the FE HSF design is also its curse. Absolutely great for SFF, compact to fit most cases and quite beautiful and stunning in person (I also thought the 4090 FE was an absolutely stunning slab of industrial metal). It's curse is limited thermals resulting in much higher temps overall at similar settings for both memory and GPU temps. In spec? Sure, but it limits you. You can't out Physics, er, Physics... For me, a monster heatsink just lets me run a full tilt D2D OC and not have to worry about extreme temps. If I could keep my room cooler, that would mean even better temps.... that screen shot of a few hours of WoW where my room was heading closer to 90 than 80 still were great temps in the sauna box. If I could keep my room at 70f? Mmmmmmm. Maybe I should get a window AC unit.... For me, it will always be 3Dmark TSE GT2 that for some reason looped will eventually get my GPU. I use Heaven when tuning on the fly to see when I start to artifact but I've found recently on 4090 and especially 5090 I don't really artifact. I just freeze/blank and sometimes recover (recover almost all the time with 576.02). I used to use Kombustor (aka Furmark'ish) but not recently. Then I throw games at it but only the games I play. My general rule is, "I'm stable till the next new game." For WoW, I use that high GPU location, and in previous Xpacs back to Shadowlands, I used Ardenweald which just brutalized my GPUs and hit so hard. I need to revisit that. I did also use Wukong this last time. Fallout 76 can't tax anything lol and it ran fine up to +400 / +3000 at max settings to give you an idea. --- 5090 is just a beast. It really is. I'm pretty much locked into a +325/+3000 D2D now and playing WoW earlier with the wife and that extra bit of ooomph does help shore up the lows a bit more. Since coil wine on this card is so good, I've abandoned 140fps frame lock and now keep it at a proper +238fps for my 240hz OLED display. There's pockets when playing, especially delves, where it is so silky smooth.... --- Again, locked down BIOS controls and no dual bios switch? Hmmmm.... For $2k though, like @tps3443, I'd rock it six ways to sundown all day everyday.... 🤣