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The End Of Windows 8.1


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Im sure most people already know but support for Windows 8.1 will end on January 10, 2023, Also support for Windows 7 will fully end on that same date as well

 

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23537688/microsoft-windows-7-8-end-of-support-security-updates

 

RIP to the last Microsoft OS that we was allowed to control Windows Update without any 3rd party tweaks 😂

 

Also in the OS marketshare Windows 8.1 currently has only 2.59% users

 

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide

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RIP Windows 8.1.

 

My desktop is still on 8.1, I did the first-year upgrade-and-downgrade so I could update it to 10 whenever I want, but I never wound up wanting to upgrade it.  I'm downloading the January 10th updates as we type.

 

8.x got a lot of flak for its UI changes, but so long as you have drivers that properly support it (a potential challenge on more recent hardware), it's stable as can be.  I'm that odd person that even came around to liking its Metro UI style with the full-screen start menu and tiles, even on non-touch desktops.  I can fit up to 60 large tiles on my Start screen so all my most-used (and even semi-frequently-used) programs are accessible with a tap of the Windows key and jump of the mouse to a predictable location.  That can be replicated on 10, but the glorious lack of feature updates and Control Panel being in charge of things rather than the Settings application?  Nope... although 10 is finally reaching the age where there's not much risk of new features.

 

8.1 has a few other fringe benefits as well, such as using the pre-sandbox version of Calculator that starts instantly rather than the slow-to-start Windows 10 version, and has some nice upgrades over 7 such as the revamped Task Manager.

 

Microsoft seems to have learned at least one thing from 8.x.  11 also has controversial UI changes, but Microsoft isn't trying as hard as it typically has to ram it down people's throats.  Had they taken a more patient approach with 8.x, perhaps instead of a reactionary "this is different than what we've known since Windows 95" dominating the headlines, the Metro/Tile style would have gradually spread with more positive coverage from those who voluntarily chose it.  I was skeptical at first, but being able to wade into it at my own speed, eventually found it to be my favorite.

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I was also on Windows 8.1 for a long time from 2012 when 8 was released to early 2019 when I upgraded to my current laptop. So I skipped Windows 10 for 3 years, and finally started using it on version 1809.

 

I wasn't a fan of the Windows start screen but it really didn't bother me because it was possible for Windows to start at the desktop instead of the start screen and the new WinX menu which I used a lot because it provided some handy hotkeys. The "superbar" was the only thing transparent in Windows Explorer, all the window borders are now a solid color which was part of Microsoft's new Metro UI. I never used the Microsoft Store, just stuck with typical Win32 desktop apps. So to me it was an slightly improved version of Windows 7, with lots of UI bloat which was possible (but probably not easy) to avoid.

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8 perfect years with 8.1 on a Dell Latitude E7440 (perfect as well, refuses to die). Open Shell & removal of useless apps. Still my daily laptop for email, browsing, youtube, music stream, basic image editing etc.

Original os install 02.2015 (+ updates) still running flawlessly, never seen a bluescreen or any other problem (...apart from my own doing, always fixed with Reflect images).

Only bad experience came from the period when MS was hammering in their "update to 10" attacks, but that plague was not the OS's fault.

What a great OS (8.1) this is (was). It's W7 MK2 imo. Will keep it on the Latitude for the time being.

Edit: forgot to mention original 8, what a disgusting, ridiculous contraption (the user interface, the os behind was probably ok).

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Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro

OS Version:                6.3.9600 N/A Build 9600
Original Install Date:     04.02.2015, 09:46:48
System Manufacturer:       Dell Inc.
System Model:              Latitude E7440

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I'm also running 8.1 on my AW17, the GPU upgrade forces to boot into UEFI only and 980M on this machine does not allow to boot into Win7 using VGA legacy out BIOS does not have the information. But the OS is super stable, rock solid. Never had any BSODs or anything. it's just Win8.1 no updates either. The NT Kernel updates in Win8.1 make it very fast over Windows 7 in some aspects without the extra nonsense of 10's bloated OS and processes.

 

Shame how the OS has now become WaaS. The modern 11 is not fit for a desktop OS let alone install it. Garbage. Windows 10 1809 / 21H2 LTSC are the only viable options, or the good old last updated Windows 7 with Updatepack7R2.

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My old HP ENVY laptop is still running Windows 8.1 and after using it for like an hour today it made miss Windows 8.1 where i can control my PC the way i want to and plus i wasnt forced to use Microsoft store and DCH drivers like Windows 10... I never had an issue with the OS itself other than causing BSODs at times because i was testing my undevolt. I installed open shell and some tweaks to avoid using Metro as i always hated it.. At least they kinda learned their lesson with Windows 10.

 

Also Windows 8.1 wasnt so bloated with junk apps unlike Windows 10/11.

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There is something to be said about Windows 8.1 feeling less bloated than 10, in that it is very responsive.  A friend once asked me why I kept using my old Core i5 2500k desktop when I had a shiny then-new Kaby Lake i7-8750H laptop.  A lot of the reason was that even though by all respects the new laptop should have felt faster based on raw specs, in practice the Windows UI was more responsive on the old workhorse.  The obvious difference that could account for that was the operating system.

 

I sometimes bemoan how software has kept up with hardware in terms of resource requirements.  My old Pentium II with Windows 98 was slow as molasses at booting, but once it finally finished booting, it could start Word 2000 faster than my 8.1 desktop with Word 2010, and I wouldn't be surprised if that in turn is faster than my Ryzen 5800H/Windows 10 laptop would be with Word 2019.

 

I'll be curious to see how long Windows 8.1 still feels viable.  For me, XP still felt viable for about 2 years after its expiration date, although increasingly less so as time went on.  I expect something similar for 8.1, with gradual discontinuation of software support eventually resulting in it not being very realistic to run as a modern system.  It might last a bit longer than XP did though, with its architecture being comparatively several years newer at the time of its expiration, and the pace of evolution in OS features slowing down.

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On 1/21/2023 at 1:55 PM, Sandy Bridge said:

.....and the pace of evolution in OS features slowing down.

And...Windows 11 :classic_unsure:

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A few weeks passed: bank accounts not emptied, websites does not display upside-down and filled with p**n ads, drives not encrypted by ransomware, email not hacked etc. So, 8.1 is safe and well 😀!

btw, Defender still getting regular updates, all that's needed. Otherwise, I'd install some other av.

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To be fair, typically 8.1 has been getting updates once a month on Patch Tuesday, and we are not yet to the first Patch Tuesday (February) where it won't be getting updates.  Assuming there are no out-of-schedule patches, the "end of support" typically means the last Patch Tuesday, so the OS doesn't actually fall behind on patches until a month later.

 

And it really does depend on your habits.  We aren't in the Wild West days of Windows XP SP0 anymore where just connecting to the Internet could result in viruses (or so I've heard).  Networking hardware is more secure, Windows has had a firewall built-in since XP SP2 that will keep working even after support expires, and we can stream music from Spotify instead of having to hope that the file we downloaded from KaZaA really is the latest Weird Al hit.  I'd even venture that so long as you are interacting with known-safe sites, you're probably safer browsing the web on XP SP3 today, 8+ years after its date of expiry, than you would have been in early 2002 when it didn't have a firewall.

 

8.1 will continue to benefit from those XP SP2 security improvements, as well as many more since then.

 

It's really the "doing things that would violate NotebookTalk's terms of use" part of web surfing that becomes riskier the farther out of support you get.

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9 hours ago, 6730b said:

A few weeks passed: bank accounts not emptied, websites does not display upside-down and filled with p**n ads, drives not encrypted by ransomware, email not hacked etc. So, 8.1 is safe and well 😀!

Just don't click, download and install everything you see/find interesting😎

 

Some fun for the weekend 🙂 

 

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10 hours ago, 6730b said:

.....websites does not display upside-down and filled with p**n ads, ......
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Wait...that's not normal for you?

:classic_wink:

 

Actually I'm thinking to put win8.1 back on my Ranger, its much faster than win 10 and thermals are better. :classic_sad:

I did try ZorinOS but Linux still just isnt there for daily usability in my case (as in a linux idiot and "classic" laptop)

 

 

I am a little concerned, I use this machine just to have coffee and read news in the morning before work...but my browser of choice (Brave) keeps telling me it can no longer update unless I use win 10. Still stewing on it.

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