6730b Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 No end in sight for my Dell 7440 :O) No feeling of, or sign of, insecurity. Nice to see continuous MS defender updates. ps, now 8,5 years with it's original w.8.1 install, never a bluescreen etc, a superb os that was\is. + amazed that the Dell is still behaving like new ! OS Name: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro OS Version: 6.3.9600 N/A Build 9600 Product ID: 00180-10945-04374-AAOEM Original Install Date: 04.02.2015, 09:46:48 System Boot Time: 14.07.2023, 14:33:07 System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Latitude E7440 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Seems like the end of Defender, last update I got was 19 july. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-defender-for-windows-8-and-81 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishayin Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 8:26 PM, 6730b said: Seems like the end of Defender, last update I got was 19 july. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-defender-for-windows-8-and-81 Yeah, mine seems to have stopped on the 6th July with definition version 1.391.3726.0 I don't really care about that too much. The real issue is that other software is gradually starting to stop support like Opera is no longer updated, and Signal Desktop is saying it won't work from the 20th August. Anyway, I've been having fun learning Linux over recent months and very happy with my VM setup at least now. Everything works (including the Windows software I want) much better than I expected. So looking to move more fully to Linux later this year. Whether that be fully, or dual boot (on separate drives), and/or still making some use of VMs I'm not sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Vivaldi updates stopped long ago. FF went to esr. Defender not updated for a while. Time is gradually chewing bits off 8.1, 10 LTSC when it's time (if the laptop still works). Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 !! Security updates. 1 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epguy3 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 KB5028228 is the last monthly rollup for Windows 8.1 (at least for 8.1 Embedded) normal client Win8.1 Home & Pro editions went EOL in January 2023 Win8.1 Embedded Industry edition went EOL in July 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Another 8.1 (with classic shell) praise :O) Just checked the old Tosh (near 10 years old, still in regular use for yt & music streaming \ playing), realized it's original 8.1 install is nearing it's 10th birthday. All updates installed. Never the slightest sign of problem, error or hiccup during all that time. & only ever done 1 Reflect restore, many years ago replacing HD. ps, damn, how time dissolves quickly... 1 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epguy3 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 my dad has a similar Toshiba laptop (it's a Satellite C55Dt-A touch screen late 2013 notebook PC) with pre-installed Win8.1 Home and the pre-installed Toshiba 750Gb HDD. updated even beyond the Jan. 2023 KB5022352 rollup update; I even have the KB5028228 July 2023 8.1 rollup installed on there (with an "esu bypass" I found elsewhere) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Time to congratulate w8.1 here (original installation + all updates, open shell). 9 years of astonishingly perfect & stable service, OS solid as rock. Same for the old Dell e7440, behaves like new (even the battery has aged well). Laptop in daily use, browsing \ email \ yt streaming \ music playing. MS continues to provide daily Defender updates. (so far) been enough security for my kind of net activity. & the old Tosh mentionned in post above also alive as well. 1 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 My Ranger with windows 10LTSC died this morning, boot loop and can't get into system recovery....tossing up to reinstall 8.1 (which I had no problem with) or Zorin OS again....Mmmmmmm 1 1 Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10LTSC RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Pipin // Panasonic CF-RZ6 i5-7Y54 ZorinOS 17.3 JunkDog // Desktop Asrock 660M i3-12100F Geforce 9600GT win10LTSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Bridge Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I was thinking the other day, my Windows 8.1 desktop is basically a file server/media center PC now, I'm not using it for anything that wouldn't work on 10. Maybe it's time to switch it to 10, and make it "current". Then I saw that Microsoft is moving towards Start menu ads in Windows 10 (https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-bringing-annoying-windows-11-start-menu-ads-to-windows-10/). Nope. It's sticking with 8.1. 2 Desktop: Core i5 2500k "Sandy Bridge" | RX 480 | 32 GB DDR3 | 1 TB 850 Evo + 512 GB NVME + HDDs | Seasonic 650W | Noctua Fans | 8.1 Pro Laptop: MSI Alpha 15 | Ryzen 5800H | Radeon 6600M | 64 GB DDR4 | 4 TB TLC SSD | 10 Home Laptop history: MSI GL63 (2018) | HP EliteBook 8740w (acq. 2014) | Dell Inspiron 1520 (2007) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Sandy Bridge said: I was thinking the other day, my Windows 8.1 desktop is basically a file server/media center PC now, I'm not using it for anything that wouldn't work on 10. Maybe it's time to switch it to 10, and make it "current". Or Linux? Easy enough to set up SMB file sharing and Plex. Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/29/2024 at 11:38 AM, Sandy Bridge said: Then I saw that Microsoft is moving towards Start menu ads in Windows 10 Try LTSC ? = zero Microslut nonsense. 2 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Still using the 10 years old Dell e7440 with (the great) w8.1 (original install from 2014), no hacks, no problems, fast and reliable, used for youtube streaming, some social stuff, Netflix, internet browsing. Firefox extended support, MS Defender always updated = not expecting getting targeted or attacked by anything that I could not handle. If anything changes (and it still wants to power up) it'll get w10 ltsc someday. 4 1 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 A small thanks to MS for still providing a basic security for 8.1, would have rather expected they'd serve some full screen display about imminent death and destruction if not on 11. 1 1 Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epguy3 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 recent server 2012 r2 based updates from Oct. 2024 (like KB5044343) & Nov. 2024 (like KB5046682) can be installed onto 64bit/x64 Windows 8.1. but R.I.P. 32bit Win8.1 - KB5028223 & KB5028228 are the very last updates for Windows 8.1 on 32bit/x86, which are from July 2023 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6730b Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 ^^^ Very interesting, wonder if i'll have a go (...after a Reflect image done :O) Dell Precision 5540 w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup, Dell E7440 w8.1, Tosh w8.1, HP i5 desktop w10 ltsc 1809 \ O&O shutup. Pixel 8 Pro, Samsung Note 10 Lite \ A52s (Netguard on all). Stand with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 On 11/17/2024 at 1:50 AM, epguy3 said: recent server 2012 r2 based updates from Oct. 2024 (like KB5044343) & Nov. 2024 (like KB5046682) can be installed onto 64bit/x64 Windows 8.1. but R.I.P. 32bit Win8.1 - KB5028223 & KB5028228 are the very last updates for Windows 8.1 on 32bit/x86, which are from July 2023 Sorry to ask but google is not helping me....how do you install an update like this into stock Win8.1? Its says not compatible just running the stand alone installer 2 Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10LTSC RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Pipin // Panasonic CF-RZ6 i5-7Y54 ZorinOS 17.3 JunkDog // Desktop Asrock 660M i3-12100F Geforce 9600GT win10LTSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 @6730b I found 1 way to install .msu files via extracting the .cab file I have version mismatch error when trying to install kb5044343 and kb5046682 Still playing with it https://woshub.com/manually-install-cab-msu-updates-windows/ 2 Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10LTSC RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Pipin // Panasonic CF-RZ6 i5-7Y54 ZorinOS 17.3 JunkDog // Desktop Asrock 660M i3-12100F Geforce 9600GT win10LTSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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