ryan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 7950X | 32gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 6800XT | I like how you went all AMD. honestly we need moar people like you. competition brings alot to the table price and performance wise Im broke bro....always broke...unless you have penny stock advice im screwged 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, ryan said: Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 7950X | 32gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 6800XT | I like how you went all AMD. honestly we need moar people like you. competition brings alot to the table price and performance wise Im broke bro....always broke...unless you have penny stock advice im screwged Ive gone back and forth over the years, although I have not built an Intel system since the Pentium 4 days, I have always preferred the longevity of AMD's socket architecture, instead of the one and done. Unless there is a change in PCIE, USB, SATA standards, there is no reason to purchase another motherboard. Earlier I was using a 3rd gen Ryaen on a 1st gen board, and there was nothing missing, as far as performance. 5 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Raiderman said: @Mr. FoxHows that surfboard fit in your case? Is someone needing an EVGA DG case? It has plenty of room. This case is gigantic and doesn't have any cooling components inside of it.. But, that's neither here nor there because I love that EVGA monstrosity of a case. Let's see how much it would cost to ship if it is still available. I will PM you my address. 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 8 hours ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: i just noticed your so called efficiency cores running at 4.8MHz, even native they are at 4.3MHz, how can anyone call them efficiency cores when they alone run faster then most cpu's from 2 years ago 😄 this 13900k is effectively two CPUs wrapped in one 😮 The E-cores Baby cores don’t have HT. They are just Joke cores designed for weaker mobile laptop chips! With HT they would eat +30% more power and the OC potential would sink as a stone in the Death sea filled with 100% salt😎 2 3 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Papusan said: The E-cores Baby cores don’t have HT. They are just Joke cores designed for weaker mobile laptop chips! With HT they would eat +30% more power and the OC potential would sink as a stone in the Death sea filled with 100% salt😎 I agree. They are "joke cores" indeed. They are literally Intel Atom cores designed for smartphones and tablets. In some systems they actually call them by the correct name in the BIOS, but others refer to them as "efficiency" cores, LOL. You need to overclock at least 16 of them to perform like a stock 8th Gen Intel 8-core CPU with hyperthreading. 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: It has plenty of room. This case is gigantic and doesn't have any cooling components inside of it.. But, that's neither here nor there because I love that EVGA monstrosity of a case. Let's see how much it would cost to ship if it is still available. I will PM you my address. 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: all black @Papusan will be all over this 1 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 4090 is working peachy on Linux. QuakeII-RTX Crysis 3 Remastered @ryan 8 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Raiderman said: Ive gone back and forth over the years, although I have not built an Intel system since the Pentium 4 days, I have always preferred the longevity of AMD's socket architecture, instead of the one and done. Unless there is a change in PCIE, USB, SATA standards, there is no reason to purchase another motherboard. Earlier I was using a 3rd gen Ryaen on a 1st gen board, and there was nothing missing, as far as performance. I didn't need AMD for that. Z170.... 6700K-7700K-8700K (6 cores beating AMDs 8 cores around same gen) and finally 9900K. Went from 4 cores to 8 cores on same old Intel platform. Can't be much better than this on a old platform. Now we are back to Intel's screw up with two upgrade cycles (official) and AMD launcing refreshed Cpu's the year after with almost no performance uplift (Older Ryzen xxxx-X to xxxx-XT with almost no performance gain and from unlocked chips to fully locked down X3D "gaming" processors as the refresh). Sad times forwards. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said: Crysis 3 Remastered @ryan dude 300fps? is that at 720p or 1080p? 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, ryan said: dude 300fps? is that at 720p or 1080p? 1440p @ 165Hz with maxed out graphics settings. No DLSS since DLSS does not work on Linux. So, pure hardware muscle... no fake frames. 2 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Nice. Is it crysis 3 remastered or the original...either way that's impressive 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, ryan said: Nice. Is it crysis 3 remastered or the original...either way that's impressive Remastered. That's also with the CPU at 6.0GHz on P-cores, 4.8GHz on E-cores, 50x cache and DDR5-8000. It would probably run as well with all of that stock. I doubt it adds a ton of frames, and generally doesn't with most games. 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 6 hours ago, 1610ftw said: outside of three workstations from last generation from Dell, HP and MSI even 4 of these relatively slim m2 memory slots seem to be too much to ask these days. 100% i hate this nonsense too, lets see what the next line they just got approved will bring, 10 hours ago, Aaron44126 said: Dell Precision 3480, Precision 7680, Precision 7780 have been certified by DMTF. https://registry.dmtf.org/products/dell-precision-7780 https://registry.dmtf.org/products/dell-precision-7680 https://registry.dmtf.org/products/dell-precision-3480 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 @MyPC8MyBrainis there another tweaker besides nvidia profile inspector? 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ryan said: is there another tweaker besides nvidia profile inspector? lmao, yes there are more but no matter what you will do to your system it wont get any closer to @Mr. Fox results/dust, 2 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 lol i want 40k in timespy? is this doable currently i get 9k overclocked 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, ryan said: i want 40k in timespy? sure its doable, its also a simple tweak, get external enclosure connected via thunderbolt and put a 4090 desktop variant in it 😄 Time spy is a specific DX12 sahder bench, there's allot more outside DX12 shader realm your 3060 can do very well, lets not forget what we see here on this thread is the equivalent of F1 racing backstage access, this is the highest possible performance standards most cannot afford to dabble in, but give it two years and it becomes the new base standards, that is a simple trend/loop to follow, the reality is this is insane performance and we all agree on that, give it 6 months and or when the next iteration comes out with 16 performance cores and 16 efficiency cores if someone was to give you this 13900K chip when the 14900k will be out you will raise a brow and look down at it, just remember this moment/intersection and let it serve you into the future, 3 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Talon said: @Mr. Fox you got a 4090?! Awesome. Which model? Sorry haven't jumped through the backlog of pages I have here. Picked up a new BGA toy. Whoa, which one did you get? I was looking at MSI Titan i9-13980HX GT77 results earlier. That level of laptop performance is pretty monstrous and for better or worse the 4000 series GPUs are a much better upgrade this time around compared to 3000 series. 5 Electrosoft Alpha: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Ellectrosoft Beta: Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Just now, electrosoft said: Whoa, which one did you get? I was looking at MSI Titan i9-13980HX GT77 results earlier. That level of laptop performance is pretty monstrous and for better or worse the 4000 series GPUs are a much better upgrade this time around compared to 3000 series. That is a Rog Strix - would also be interested to hear which one. Rog Strix G18 seems to be the best bang for the buck this generation at 2.5K with the 4080 and the 13980HX. I cannot stand how these look and they only have two memory and storage slots but if 2+2 slots and the looks are OK they offer excellent performance from what I can see. @Talon is it correct that the CPU only went up to 84°C for that 33K CR23? That would be extremely impressive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, 1610ftw said: at 2.5K with the 4080 and the 13980HX i would have to agree, i also wish they didn't make them look like a toy but at that price that's pretty bad ass package, the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, electrosoft said: Whoa, which one did you get? I was looking at MSI Titan i9-13980HX GT77 results earlier. That level of laptop performance is pretty monstrous and for better or worse the 4000 series GPUs are a much better upgrade this time around compared to 3000 series. It's a Strix 18 with 4080/13980HX. Honestly a pretty incredible deal for the package overall. Unfortunately I have to return it in the morning as mine arrived with 2 dead pixel clusters/dirt under the display right next to each other almost top/center area. Pretty annoying TBH. But the display itself is pretty incredible and for 18" display area, 6-7lbs isn't bad at all. Too bad it's all BGA, but damn this thing is fast for a laptop. Now I have to wait for BB to get another unit in since they're sold out. I wish they would let you order a replacement and keep current until then, but nope. 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, Talon said: It's a Strix 18 with 4080/13980HX. Honestly a pretty incredible deal for the package overall. Unfortunately I have to return it in the morning as mine arrived with 2 dead pixel clusters/dirt under the display right next to each other almost top/center area. Pretty annoying TBH. But the display itself is pretty incredible and for 18" display area, 6-7lbs isn't bad at all. Too bad it's all BGA, but damn this thing is fast for a laptop. Now I have to wait for BB to get another unit in since they're sold out. I wish they would let you order a replacement and keep current until then, but nope. Hopefully the replacement is equal or better silicon and I agree with dead pixels. That's an instant return unless you can authorize a display swap. 1 Electrosoft Alpha: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Ellectrosoft Beta: Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89017727 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5199765_ https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89018309 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5199779_ https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89018915 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5199791_ 4 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 @ryan check this out, the only mobile cpu @Mr. Fox will accept with open arms 😄 2 1 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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