*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

49 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Bro @Mr. Fox @johnksss

 

Is the problem Win 11 or do I miss something? Enable Rbar - Feature in Nvidia Profile Inspector. But there is two other options in there as  rBar Options and rBar Size limit. I haven't added any values there. I haven't had new modern so I need to learn it on new again. In short is Enable rBar enough or do you have to change other rBar settings in NIP ?

 

The boost and memory clocks looks good, the boost clocks start at 3120 and rum at that speed the first 20 sec before it settle down to 3106 out the whole benchmark, but the result doesn't look very good. The clocks stay where they should be. And I run Win 10

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/2140694/pr/2189217/pr/2152158#

 

 

Btw. It looks fun fiddling with new and shiny from AMD...

 

An ultra-rare Radeon driver bug is breaking PCs. This exotic fix revived mine

An extremely unusual Radeon driver bug can badly break Windows, but AMD is on it.

 

 

I only enable rebar inside of Nvidia profile inspector, by changing these items. You should see a nice boost to the graphics score. Not sure why we still have to do this. The performance difference in Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 is insane. I am not quite sure why this is not already done for us.
 

[johnksss]

7 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Did you close the deal with an epic handshake?

 

 

LOL, nope. Just a normal man-ly man shake.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Bro @Mr. Fox @johnksss

 

Is the problem Win 11 or do I miss something? Enable Rbar - Feature in Nvidia Profile Inspector. But there is two other options in there as  rBar Options and rBar Size limit. I haven't added any values there. I haven't had new modern so I need to learn it on new again. In short is Enable rBar enough or do you have to change other rBar settings in NIP ?

 

The boost and memory clocks looks good, the boost clocks start at 3120 and rum at that speed the first 20 sec before it settle down to 3106 out the whole benchmark, but the result doesn't look very good. The clocks stay where they should be. And I run Win 10

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/2140694/pr/2189217/pr/2152158#

 

 

Btw. It looks fun fiddling with new and shiny from AMD...

 

An ultra-rare Radeon driver bug is breaking PCs. This exotic fix revived mine

An extremely unusual Radeon driver bug can badly break Windows, but AMD is on it.

 

 

Exactly how @tps3443explained it along with having it set in the bios.

[Papusan]

15 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I only enable rebar inside of Nvidia profile inspector, by changing these items. You should see a nice boost to the graphics score. Not sure why we still have to do this. The performance difference in Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 is insane. I am not quite sure why this is not already done for us.
 

Thanks 🙂

14 hours ago, johnksss said:

LOL, nope. Just a normal man-ly man shake.

Exactly how @tps3443explained it along with having it set in the bios.

Thanks 🙂 Then it seems I need Win 11 for Port Royal. And maybe test out a few other Win 10 builds for many of the other benchmarks. I really miss using Win 7 and not keen being forced on Win 11 for a few benchmarks. Do  we prefer Game mode On or Off in Windows with new modern graphics cards?

 

It seems Hwbot didn't bother clean up in 3D Time Spy Extreme ranking for 4090. Still results with ECC Enabled https://hwbot.org/submission/5115095_traktor_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_20058_marks 

 

Same for Port Royal https://hwbot.org/submission/5103585_traktor_3dmark___port_royal_geforce_rtx_4090_27824_marks

 

Some progress in Time Spy Extreme but I forgot the Cpu. Was running 59x. I need test out a few different river options. Not sure how the newer drivers perform. I usually bench mostly old stuff so not the needsee what Nvidia have coocing up for the newer cards🙂

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5217633_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_19977_marks?recalculate=true

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Feast your eyes on these poopalicious GB6 scores with my Precision 7720 turdbook.

CPUx1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218152_
CPUx4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218151_
NVGPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/155841 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218157_
iGFX : https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/155857 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218160_

 

#1 of 1 submission world records... 😆🤣

[ryan]

 

I didn't fair much better with my 11800h

[Mr. Fox]

52 minutes ago, ryan said:

 

I didn't fair much better with my 11800h

But yours does have twice as many cores/threads and higher clocks than the older 7920HQ CPU, so that's good. They are both gimped 45W slopbook CPUs.

 

What about your graphics compute scores for the Intel and NVIDIA graphics?

[ryan]

its nice having more power but its gimped thermally. nothing on this laptop runs spec

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, ryan said:

its nice having more power but its gimped thermally. nothing on this laptop runs spec

I think it is rare to find any notebook that functions correctly. Some malfunction worse than others, but they're all junk now. Some people just pay extra for their broken junk and hope that it is less broken.

[Talon]

16 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I only enable rebar inside of Nvidia profile inspector, by changing these items. You should see a nice boost to the graphics score. Not sure why we still have to do this. The performance difference in Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 is insane. I am not quite sure why this is not already done for us.
 

grab the latest version on GitHub. Looks cleaner and is actually labeled ReBar. 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

grab the latest version on GitHub. Looks cleaner and is actually labeled ReBar. 

Thanks. I dd not realize there was an updated version. It's not even that recent. I grabbed it.
https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector

[tps3443]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Feast your eyes on these poopalicious GB6 scores with my Precision 7720 turdbook.

CPUx1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218152_
CPUx4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218151_
NVGPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/155841 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218157_
iGFX : https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/155857 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218160_

 

#1 of 1 submission world records... 😆🤣

That was literally like a $5,000+ dollar laptop back in the day.
 

I had a 7820HK with a GTX1070 Mobile back when they were fresh and top of the line. My laptop was a BGA Aorus 17.3” DTR, I bought it used on eBay for around $1,800 dollars. The CPU was unlocked, and I had that thing running at over 4.7Ghz or so for benching. It was such a beast for being a bga turd book 😂! I also had the GTX1070 Mobile matching nearly stock weaker scoring desktop GTX1080 GPU’s. This machine had a beautiful IPS Pantone color rite x 4K@60Hz panel, during this time period high refresh rate was still not very common or popular and still expensive to own. So, if you got 35-40+ fps in games you were doing pretty darn good, especially on a laptop lol. And this machine absolutely provided a nice 35-60+ fps. I gamed at native 4K with ease. I remember the fire strike graphics score was around 21,000 which for a BGA GTX1070 was phenomenal. I had so much fun on this machine though. Good memories! I know this was no overclocking monster, and it was power limited. But, since it was reliable and smooth while allowing some levels of overclocking and performance functionality I grew to not mind BGA all that much. 
 

I do have low expectations for BGA, which I think is the reason why I don’t mind it all that much. But my last bga really left a lasting impression that was just incredible. That thing ran games like a desktop, and never gave me any real problems. 
 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

That was literally like a $5,000+ dollar laptop back in the day.

Mine is in excellent condition and I paid 1/10th (just under $500) of the orignal cost.

 

I used an EFI shell earlier today and wrote new values to the firmware to unlock the CPU controls. I will need to re-run the GB6 tests to see if it was of any value.

[ryan]

 

temps were 42-43c during benchmark and laptop is cool to touch....all it took was an open window and sub arctic temps outside

 

here is the CL score bro

 

 

I guess I do tend to complain alot.  This laptop runs fairly cool but when it comes to pushing it hard, I get abnormally hot temperatures, even with slight overclocks. I'd say its a great turdbook if you don't mind stock clocks.

 

 

here is my CPU (11800h) set to 5.0ghz it tops out at 4.6ghz though. And for once I'm above normal

 

here is the reference:

 

https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i7-11800h

 

 

Here is overclocked CL score. not much higher but hey can't complain (or can I lol).

 

 

 

 

Also Fun fact.

 

I'm related to Abraham Lincoln no joke

My dads new wife is related to albert einstein.

 

I mention that because alot of you guys are from the states and I suppose thats the only common denominator in terms of famous people in the states to reference older posts.

 

heres good news the omen 16 with 11800h is faster than the i7 12700h version

 

 

This is my new top score due to thermal contraints. It's depressing but hey it is what it is. Will be getting Liquid Metal thermal paste soon.

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Feast your eyes on these poopalicious GB6 scores with my Precision 7720 turdbook.

CPUx1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218152_
CPUx4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218151_
#1 of 1 submission world records... 😆🤣

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I used an EFI shell earlier today and wrote new values to the firmware to unlock the CPU controls. I will need to re-run the GB6 tests to see if it was of any value.

Yup, looks like a small improvement. I also disabled switchable graphics in the BIOS and forcing only use of the Quadro for graphics and for routing display output. Intel Graphics seems disabled now. HWiNFO shows zeros for everything.

CPUx1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/413045 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218488_

CPUx4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/413045 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218489_

[Mr. Fox]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yup, looks like a small improvement.

Also no more yellow and red lights in Limit Reasons with Dell firmware cancer disabled with EFI variables overridden.

 

[Tenoroon]

To my P870 owners, is it possible to max fans without software without pressing FN+1? The keyboard for my DM-G finally died and no software is working well. I'm setting it up with Win7 right now and want to be able to max the fans.

[Mr. Fox]

1 minute ago, Tenoroon said:

To my P870 owners, is it possible to man fans without software without pressing FN+1. The keyboard for my DM-G finally died and no software is working well. I'm setting it up with Win7 right now and want to be able to max the fans.

There is a fan control utility from the Clevo place in the Phillipines (can't remember their name anymore, but I think Brother @electrosoftmentioned it once earlier in this thread). The guy's name was John, but I can't remember the business name.

[Tenoroon]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

There is a fan control utility from the Clevo place in the Phillipines (can't remember their name anymore, but I think Brother @electrosoftmentioned it once earlier in this thread). The guy's name was John, but I can't remember the business name.

Obsidian is what I think you are trying to think of. I tried their fan control and it detects nothing and throws out a bunch of errors.

[Mr. Fox]

Just now, Tenoroon said:

Obsidian is what I think you are trying to think of. I tried their fan control and it detects nothing and throws out a bunch of errors.

Yup, that was it. https://code.obsidian-pc.com/clevo-software/fan-control/

 

Weird. That used to work fine for me. Not sure why it's not working right. Way too long ago for me to offer any suggestions. (Obviously could not even remember their name now, LOL.)

[Tenoroon]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yup, that was it. https://code.obsidian-pc.com/clevo-software/fan-control/

 

Weird. That used to work fine for me. Not sure why it's not working right. Way too long ago for me to offer any suggestions. (Obviously could not even remember their name now, LOL.)

I'll try installing some of the .NET frameworks and other stuff, maybe that would fix it? It works on my TM just fine; I think it has to do with my Win7 install. Though, I've looked through the P870 series schematics and can't find anything for the fan control. I was thinking I could just jump some of the pins on the connectors for the keyboard, but I can't find anything. Oh well, I'll figure it out sooner or later.

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Mine is in excellent condition and I paid 1/10th (just under $500) of the orignal cost.

 

I used an EFI shell earlier today and wrote new values to the firmware to unlock the CPU controls. I will need to re-run the GB6 tests to see if it was of any value.

Still 16GB of VRAM too lol. Someone could actually make use of this machine in creative programs. 
 

What does it get in something like port Royal? 

[tps3443]

Looks like a member on Overclock.net compared the supercool Direct die VS. the EKWB Direct die. Identical settings on a stock 13900K. 

 

EKWB DD (63C-84C) water= 24.9C

SC DD G13 (58C-73C) water= 26.0C

[Papusan]

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Looks like a member on Overclock.net compared the supercool Direct die VS. the EKWB Direct die. Identical settings on a stock 13900K. 

 

EKWB DD (63C-84C) water= 24.9C

SC DD G13 (58C-73C) water= 26.0C

Is the last nr of the two (58C-73C) the hottest temp? Or the spread? I think the EKWB DD have too much metal.

 

Do really people buy this? It looks like a baby toy. The candy cooler for All White build with a dash of bling bling. The water tube in this shape is the worst I have ever seen. Only $200 for an High-End 240mm AIO. Hope you all get it a lot cheaper due reduced or no tax. Run and buy, LOOL

https://www.finn.no/bap/webstore/ad.html?finnkode=293580416&alertType=ss&finnMail=agent&stored-id=57532357

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5218607_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_rtx_4090_80767_marks

[Etern4l]

Well the noname PTM7950 failed as well. Angry at Intel for producing a practically uncoolable CPU at stock clocks, unless used occasionally for gaming, or cracked open for direct die cooling. At least now it's clearer what Sapphire Rapids are for. 

[Mr. Fox]

11 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Still 16GB of VRAM too lol. Someone could actually make use of this machine in creative programs. 
 

What does it get in something like port Royal? 

Horrible, like all GPUs made before NVIDIA discovered a proprietary way to implement ray tracing as a means of extortion. Slide show... literally. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90334138

10 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Looks like a member on Overclock.net compared the supercool Direct die VS. the EKWB Direct die. Identical settings on a stock 13900K. 

 

EKWB DD (63C-84C) water= 24.9C

SC DD G13 (58C-73C) water= 26.0C

Please post a link to that @tps3443

 

I am not happy with my results. I am going to be asking EKWB to accept an RMA and refund my money for selling me something that functions the same as a normal water block on an IHS. My temps are not worse. They are a tiny bit better, but not direct die results like I would expect. Should be a LOT better, not a little bit. Temps with the Velocity2 block are almost the same as Velocity2 direct die block. Not terrible, but why bother with direct die if it is not impressively better? Makes no sense to me.

 

Now, that said, I love how the EKWB part is made though. Very high precision and MUCH MORE pleasant to work with. I truly despise how the Supercool Direct Die block is made. Having to take it apart  to separate it from the ILM is super retarded. They should come up with something less inconvenient and messy, because that sucks. A frame like EKWB uses would be a bazillion times better. 

9 hours ago, Papusan said:

Is the last nr of the two (58C-73C) the hottest temp? Or the spread? I think the EKWB DD have too much metal.

 

Do really people buy this? It looks like a baby toy. The candy cooler for All White build with a dash of bling bling. The water tube in this shape is the worst I have ever seen. Only $200 for an High-End 240mm AIO. Hope you all get it a lot cheaper due reduced or no tax. Run and buy, LOOL

https://www.finn.no/bap/webstore/ad.html?finnkode=293580416&alertType=ss&finnMail=agent&stored-id=57532357

 

It could be that. It is EXTREMELY heavy. It may have so much metal that it is normalizing temperatures rather than lowering them.

White computer parts almost always strike me that way, even when it is crisp and clean looking. White is just not the right color to use from my perspective. It always sucks, even when it is not used in a disgusting way. The rainbow puke colors being added to the white simply create the impression of being a circus clown joke PC for children, and the rainbow merely exacerbates the magnitude of the ugliness. If you add stupid stuff like anime or cartoon images into the mix it then it becomes an object of contempt that is worthy of rejection and public ridicule.

4 hours ago, Etern4l said:

Well the noname PTM7950 failed as well. Angry at Intel for producing a practically uncoolable CPU, unless used occasionally for gaming. At least now it's clearer what Sapphire Rapids are for. 

There has to be something abnormal that is being overlooked. What are you using for a cooler? Maybe that is the problem. Are you using the Intel ILM or a CPU frame? I am wondering if the CPU shape and the shape of the base of your cooler are going opposite directions and need to be lapped?