*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

My litttle daughtr have been alle the Asisa... Seen every thing. Me... Love the old : 

That is a great picture of both of you. Thanks for sharing it.

[jaybee83]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I hope this fixes my Micro$lop Office text rendering problem. Still fighting this nonsense with the 6900 XT. It only seems to affect Word and Outlook, but it is extremely annoying. It is very difficult to concentrate and not feel disoriented when part of the information you entered in an email or a document 1 second ago randomly disappears (becomes invisible) momentarily. Drives me nuts some days when it is really bad. There are other days that it never happens.

That's good news. It will make the ludicrous pricing of the 4090 a little less painful if I can get 2 years out of it before it becomes obsolete.

  

What is the temperature of the DIMMs when it starts erroring out? It may be thermally induced. I can overclock my memory much higher without error when liquid cooled than I can trying to use a fan blowing on the stock heating blanket trash that memory ships with. The chance of having errors and random BSOD issues is much greater at 45°C and higher. Same was true of DDR4.

 

The relevancy of memory stress tests like TM5 and MemTest Pro is diminished when errors are occurring due to heat. In real-world utilization you may never encounter any instability issues at all like you do when stressing the crap out your RAM and overheating the modules using a memory stress test. Probably the more reliable way to test is with benchmarks and extended gaming sessions. The memory modules generally do not get nearly as heated up doing things that are normal use scenarios. The load some of these memory stress test produce is not a realistic representation of what would occur in typical use, even the more stressful of the typical use scenarios.

 

the DIMMs max out at 50/52 C. but i plan to optimize the voltages once im done with subtimings. i might go back and retest the timings once i got a voltage range figured out, should lower peak temps considerably, potentially allowing me to avoid errors more. its a finicky balance as we all know haha.

[electrosoft]

The good news:

 

The 7945HX3D is available August 22nd

 

The bad news (depending on who you are), it is only available on one specific model from Asus The ROG Strix Scar 17 X3D 4090

 

 

[seanwee]

20 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

The good news:

 

The 7945HX3D is available August 22nd

 

The bad news (depending on who you are), it is only available on one specific model from Asus The ROG Strix Scar 17 X3D 4090

 

 

Personally running the Strix Scar 17, I'd guarantee that the cpu will thermal throttle.

[Mr. Fox]

42 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

The good news:

 

The 7945HX3D is available August 22nd

 

The bad news (depending on who you are), it is only available on one specific model from Asus The ROG Strix Scar 17 X3D 4090

The really great news (for me) is that because it is a laptop product it just doesn't matter to me how it turns out, LOL. That it will be a pile of manure is taken for granted before any details are known.  😉

[Reciever]

2 hours ago, seanwee said:

Personally running the Strix Scar 17, I'd guarantee that the cpu will thermal throttle.

Even at a max watt of 50w?

[Mr. Fox]

24 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Even at a max watt of 50w?

With a TDP-handling capacity the functional equivalent of this and a thin chassis suffocating what little resides inside of it... probably so.

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, seanwee said:

Personally running the Strix Scar 17, I'd guarantee that the cpu will thermal throttle.

 

14 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Even at a max watt of 50w?

 

It does have a thermal limit of 89c vs 100c for the normal variant.

 

My main issue is the price since a normal Strix Scar 7945 w/ 4090 is ~$3300. How much will this special edition be?

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Speaking of temperatures. Pulling cold air through a radiator is always better than exhausting hot air through the radiator. And, with the top radiator blowing on the RAM sticks, it runs cooler, too.

 

 

[Papusan]

Adrenalin 23.7.2 Marks Return of 'Bad' AMD Drivers

 

 

 

Deal | WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD with up to 7,300 MB/s drops to another all-time low on Amazon

The superfast PCIe 4.0 SSD from Western Digital has experienced yet another significant price drop, as Amazon has introduced a gigantic 61% discount on the 4TB version of the WD Black SN850X

[Rage Set]

Sold all of my "spare part" PC builds. Now I am going to build my all white SUPER ARGB OMG WOW PC featuring the Asus Strix Z690 D4 mobo, Asus Strix 3090 White edition and 12900K. I was going to do a custom loop, but I know that will only increase the cost. I have elected to pick up a white AIO.  It will be for sale locally, but I will make sure to take a few photos for you all white build fans 😂

 

 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Deal | WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD with up to 7,300 MB/s drops to another all-time low on Amazon

The superfast PCIe 4.0 SSD from Western Digital has experienced yet another significant price drop, as Amazon has introduced a gigantic 61% discount on the 4TB version of the WD Black SN850X

 

On Prime Day the SN850X was $229.99 when I picked it up. I am not sure if Camelcamelcamel takes Prime Day deals into account. I am kicking myself for not buying a couple more at that price.

 

Now is the time to buy as much storage as you can, because most of the NAND flash producers have slowed or stopped production to force prices to go back up. 

[Mr. Fox]

31 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

Sold all of my "spare part" PC builds. Now I am going to build my all white SUPER ARGB OMG WOW PC featuring the Asus Strix Z690 D4 mobo, Asus Strix 3090 White edition and 12900K. I was going to do a custom loop, but I know that will only increase the cost. I have elected to pick up a white AIO.  It will be for sale locally, but I will make sure to take a few photos for you all white build fans 😂

 

 

 

On Prime Day the SN850X was $229.99 when I picked it up. I am not sure if Camelcamelcamel takes Prime Day deals into account. I am kicking myself for not buying a couple more at that price.

 

Now is the time to buy as much storage as you can, because most of the NAND flash producers have slowed or stopped production to force prices to go back up. 

I look forward to seeing that. White or otherwise, I'm sure it will be nice. That EK 360 AIO then I'm going to be publishing a review on here shortly does an impressive job. Much better than I expected.

 

You can get a TeamGroup 4TB NVMe for $159. It is not as fast as the SN850X, but for $100 less it doesn't need to be. It'll get the job done and that price is just really too good to pass up.

[Rage Set]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I look forward to seeing that. White or otherwise, I'm sure it will be nice. That EK 360 AIO then I'm going to be publishing a review on here shortly does an impressive job. Much better than I expected.

 

You can get a TeamGroup 4TB NVMe for $159. It is not as fast as the SN850X, but for $100 less it doesn't need to be. It'll get the job done and that price is just really too good to pass up.

 

I must admit, EK's AIO tend to be good to really good...usually better than almost all of their competitors. Their experience in watercooling shows with the coldplate design. I am a fan of their discontinued semi-open Phoenix line of AIO's (they were essentially a premade loop with a DDC pump and their EK quick disconnects) but I haven't tested the new one I just got. I only purchased it to have something on hand to test the CPUs I am buying second-hand. Does it rival a normal 360 custom loop?

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

I must admit, EK's AIO tend to be good to really good...usually better than almost all of their competitors. Their experience in watercooling shows with the coldplate design. I am a fan of their discontinued semi-open Phoenix line of AIO's (they were essentially a premade loop with a DDC pump and their EK quick disconnects) but I haven't tested the new one I just got. I only purchased it to have something on hand to test the CPUs I am buying second-hand. Does it rival a normal 360 custom loop?

Yes, in fact it equaled my custom loop and I started trying to figure out why. I was using the 13700K (not delidded) and the temps were a couple of degrees cooler with the EK AIO. I took apart the Optimus block and found debris in the fins and cleaned them out, and after that the custom loop was just barely better. So little better, in fact, than one could say the added cost and effort is not worth it. The custom loop has benefits like inclusion of the RAM and GPU blocks. But, for a person that plans to leave those cooled on air, the AIO is the smart way to go financially. Maybe not just any AIO, but this one at least.

[jaybee83]

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

It does have a thermal limit of 89c vs 100c for the normal variant.

 

My main issue is the price since a normal Strix Scar 7945 w/ 4090 is ~$3300. How much will this special edition be?

 

 

 

judging by the desktop parts, it "shouldnt" be more expensive, maybe max. 100 USD additionally.

 

one more timing set in: 6400-30-40-40 IF2133

 

but now i gotta pause tuning, off to vacay! exciting, gonna be the first time with the lil one. curious to see how she will react to seeing the sea for the first time in her young life 😄 wish us luck boiiiiiiiizzzzzz

[seanwee]

12 hours ago, Reciever said:

Even at a max watt of 50w?

Possibly. Since hotspots will be the main issue due to Asus's sloppy way of applying liquid metal.

 

Even then. I'd expect it to throttle at ~100W

 

12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

With a TDP-handling capacity the functional equivalent of this and a thin chassis suffocating what little resides inside of it... probably so.

Heat dissipation of the Scar 17's cooling system is no issue. I can run 400w of combined load and it still doesn't throttle.

 

The main issue is thermal density of the 5nm chiplet which means you need vastly more heat dissipation capacity to keep it under 90C. Couple that with the worse heat transfer caused by the stacked X3D cache it's just a recipe for thermal throttling.

 

 

[ryan]

speaking of cooling, my laptop runs alot cooler lifted off the desk allowing me to break my old scores. 

 

it will be interesting to see what games ill be able to run in 5 years and at what resolution and framerate. I think if I do wind up going the desktop route and get the fastest parts I should be good for 10 years if the 1080ti is anything to go by. my 3060 performs like a 1080ti and the 1080ti came out like 6.5 years ago, and it should still be able to game at 4k low in 2-4 years. consoles vs pc....there really is no comparison

[seanwee]

4 minutes ago, ryan said:

speaking of cooling, my laptop runs alot cooler lifted off the desk allowing me to break my old scores. 

Tip as old as time

[ryan]

lol yeah, my memory is pretty shot...starting to forget the basics, slowly dying.

 

It bumped me from 9900 in timespy to 11000 pretty big jump. and the pads are settled now and performance is a notch or two better, im not getting top scores but im happy with the performance. as for gaming temps and scores, when I set vsync to 60fps at 4k my temps are in the 70s which im happy with. really no point in going over 4k60 with a 3060 and with your setup i would just lock 120/4k. I love my jokebook for what it is but I can't help but want moar moar. never ending pursuit of better performance which is never attained.

 

example of a slightly older game averaging 60 at 4k maxed all settings on

 

if only I could run cyberbug 1922 at any setting with 4k

[Papusan]

Rumor: Nvidia scrapped RTX 4090 Ti plans

Why Nvidia chose to scrap the RTX 4090 Ti is unknown, but it is speculated that the decision was made because Nvidia simply does not need to launch a new powerful graphics card. The RTX 4090 performs at its peak and when AMD chose to focus on lower performance segments, the Ti version only ate up the sales of the regular RTX 4090. This at a time when the sales of graphics cards, and other components, are low.

 

The fortune telling about the RTX 5000
Kopite7kimi also delivers rumors regarding Nvidia's next graphics card generation. According to the leaker, the next-generation flagship card, which will be the RTX 5090, will be equipped with a 512-bit memory bus, which is the first time since the launch of the 15-year-old GTX 285 Nvidia has used such a memory bus in a single card. This, in combination with 32GB GDDR7 graphics memory, can offer memory bandwidth of 2 TB/s - double that of the RTX 4090.

 

The question above... WHY Nvidia does this (if the rumors are correct).

 

Because of the the RTX 5000 cards (nvidia will take an Intel this time with minor uplift in performance). With a near maxed out ADA die, then the difference between 4090Ti and next gen 5090 would be quite low. And with the rumors of 512-bit memory bus + no 4090Ti we will see an ok performance uptlift from ADA to ADA Next. The difference would be minimal with same mem bus and with 4090Ti in the playfield.

 

Maybe Nvidia also will do the same for 5060 and 5060Ti? Bump up the mem bus back from the wimpy 128 bit castration back to the normal? Maybe ADA Next isn't the big performance uplift people hoped for?

 

Then you have AMD... They are not so keen compete in performance and take the performance crown. Only on the prices. Closest possible to Nvidia. 

 

The red team fills out the Radeon RX 7000 series with the RX 7900 GRE, which beats Nvidia's Geforce RTX 4070 on the fingers but at the same price.

 

 

Then why spend much of your resources on the gamer-boys if you can have it both? 

Nvidia's AI GPUs Are Selling for up to $70,000 in China

 

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Isn't it cute. If you need do an RMA you may be stuck with a less pleasant 4090 graphics card as outcome. Nice with new revision of silicon. Yep, silicon lottery have finally got an new meaning. New or newer is always better bro @ryan🙃

 

Maybe payback time or a nice helping hand from Nvidia. Lower the max voltage will lower the max power consumption so it match a fix for the smoke hell with 4090s. Great. I knew we would get some sorts of a fix from nvidia, LOOL

 

From overclock.net

If it's any help here's the two BIOS from my 4090 Suprim X which has the 1.070 voltage limit, might be interesting to know if you can flash other BIOS between the newer cards with the 1.070 limit. I could not flash older Suprim or other older 4090 BIOS (tried 666W BIOS that I had on my previous SuprimX), got same errors as previously stated.

 

 

 

[ryan]

70  000 geez. how can it be a 68 000 advantage.

 

papusan! did you give up on benchmarking? no new results, or did you max it out? I seem to be able to top my old scores after a few days of fiddling. I literally went from a max of 9050 to 9395 over the course of 5 months. its a slow process testing every driver but its rewarding beating an old bench.

 

I bought these to go with my gamer-boy laptop.

 

 

i don't find them too gamerboy ish. and also to add they are new, so 2 notches better than the standard old.

 

also the performance new games need to have them look the way they do is a joke. heres cyberpunk at 4k medium preset and it looks like a game from 2007

 

 

[Papusan]

11 minutes ago, ryan said:

70  000 geez. how can it be a 68 000 advantage.

 

papusan! did you give up on benchmarking? no new results, or did you max it out? I seem to be able to top my old scores after a few days of fiddling. I literally went from a max of 9050 to 9395 over the course of 5 months. its a slow process testing every driver but its rewarding beating an old bench.

 

I bought these to go with my gamer-boy laptop.

 

 

i don't find them too gamerboy ish. and also to add they are new, so 2 notches better than the standard old.

 

It's holiday time... Lots on the go. And my wife have soon summer vacations so we will travel even more. And today we spent the day celebrate our wedding day. So not much time for my hobby right now. And summertime means more work in the garden and around the house. The damn rain feed the grass so this means more work for me, LOOL

 

I think those are all too mych gamer-style than my likings. And they should have been black. All black😄

[ryan]

lol. yeah I was kidding, i'd rather not wear those. id most likely get black without the frills. but you do see my point right? new is clearly better. old black<new pink

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

lol. yeah I was kidding, i'd rather not wear those. id most likely get black without the frills. but you do see my point right? new is clearly better. old black<new pink

Maybe buy a pair to bro @electrosoft😀

 

Here is the new one... I mean the new old 980Ti HOF card. There is minimale difference in design and size between the 970 and the 980Ti. And that's a good thing. The weaker cards should be in same size as the bigger boys. They all 3 have even the same white color shroud, LOOL

 

 

Can you see the crocs? 

 

 

 

 

[ryan]

these are the electro crocs in electric blue. I found them and imediately thought of electrosoft and his desire for electro crocs. gamer boy edition

 

 

 

 

 

PS. bigger sizes available on alibaba