*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

  

2 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

i feel ya, iirc it took me like 60-70 repetitions to get mine off. its a bit of a chore, but definitely straight forward process 🙂 

It gave me ample time to wonder whether I was making a terrible mistake. I am glad it was not, LOL. 🤣

[D2ultima]

Not too many people will probably need this, but if you all use OBS to record or stream things, when you update to version 31, you will need to go in settings and change your NVENC to the new one.

 

The old one is deprecated as of this update, and new one has benefits like the encoding data doesn't touch RAM at all, and should just be less resource intensive. You can also add custom encoding options (which I'm gonna be learning some of soon to see if they're useful), and if you're on a 4070Ti/Super, 4080/Super or 4090 card you can also do split encoding using both of your NVENC encoding modules to essentially SLI-encode for less system demand, or the ability to encode more streams at once.

 

You will need to re-set your settings after changing the encoder tho.

 

Happy meowing!

[Raiderman]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's absolutely awesome, bro. I am excited that you are getting into that. I look forward to seeing what kind of cool creations you come up with.

LOL, not really but I am willing to help a friend (any friend) when the opportunity exists. If I do too many I might develop an repetitive stress injury. To get the IHS off of mine I had to shift the IHS back and forth like 75 or 80 times. I can see why Roman uses a cordless drill with an allen bit now. I am not going to do that, but the thought did cross my mind when I was tightening and loosening the screws that many times. A one point I wondered if it was going to actually turn loose. Then it did. It moves such a small distance each direction that it is not hard to understand why it was tedious. It didn't make any unsettling noises like I sometimes hear when shoving an Intel IHS off the die in one uninterrupted motion.

 

It is absolutely worth doing though. The thermal improvement is no less dramatic than it is with an Intel CPU. Maybe even a little bit more since the CCD chiplets are so small. It's too bad that was not true with the 5950X delid. Part of it is likely the Mycro Pro direct die block. That thing is amazing.

Well, I didn't mean to create work for my friend @Mr. Fox. He just said he'd help me out, so I wanted to give him some online forum love!

He knows what a mess my family and I are going through, and as a true friend, he said he could do it for me! Thank you my brother!

[electrosoft]

So I've been using this x670e Hero to tune back in my 6000 on this 7600x. Set up some other profiles, and get it all ready for the hopefully replacement 9800X3D.

 

I go to test out some fans on it and the bottom three fan headers are defective and keep shorting with fan(s) plugged in. Other fan headers work ok.

 

So in summary, Amazon Resale x670e Hero:

 

1. Missing CPU heatsink brackets

2. Missing thermal pads

3. Previous owner used some type of thermal grease I can not get the stains off the heatsinks

4. Lower three chained 4 pin fan headers are defective

 

Fun re-tuning the memory on it though. Back to Amazon Resale it goes.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

12 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Thank you my brother!

Happy to do it, brother.

---

So, here is an interesting story. The Z790 Edge system that I use for work has been randomly having an issue where it would hang during POST and just get stuck with the white LED on. After several attempts to boot it up it would always fail the same way, but then it would always suddenly decide to function normally right before I was about to give up. This has been going on randomly for like 90 days. Really has been annoying.

 

So, Friday evening and multple times Saturday the Carbon starts doing the exact same thing. I'm like "what the heck is going on" and so I flipped the KVM over to the Edge and it's doing the same thing, at the same time. Turns out it was my Roccat Vulkan 120 keyboard. I use the same keyboard, mouse and monitors for those two systems and switch back and forth using the KVM. I tested with a cheap old keyboard I hang onto for stuff like this and it worked fine with both machines. Hooked up the  Roccat again and instantly both machines start doing the same hanging during POST again. So, I grabbed a Corsair K70 Core at Walmart and I'm back in business. I got it because it was cheap ($65) and better than any of the off-brand Chinese trash on Amazon for the same price.

 

Turns out the K70 Core is a really nice entry-level mechanical keyboard. And, one nice thing about it is once I program my bright white backlighting and save it directly to the keyboard I am done. No need for crappy software bloat to manage the rainbow puke. The keyboard has three onboard profiles and I made them all the same thing so that it doesn't matter what profile is loaded... the outcome will always be white LED at max brightness. I like it better than my older and more expensive Corsair keyboards that I used for years until they finally died. The old Corsair K's had a habit of forgetting my settings and reverting back to the spastic animated rainbow puke. The Core also has a nice tactile response without  being overly clicky. In fact, it doesn't click at all. It mostly has a dull "thud" sound. I like it. (It has Corsair MLX Red linear switches.)

 

I guess I'll throw the Roccat Vulkan in the trash. That's going to make some people happy that hated how clicky and loud it was. It was quite annoying to some folks during teleconferences.

[Mr. Fox]

I have not seen this liquid metal before. Looks very interesting--especially the higher viscosity part--so I ordered some to try the next time I need to take something apart. It seems like over the years that liquid metal formulas have changed and have a lower viscosity than they used to, and I think that makes it more likely to drip or run. (The original Liquid Ultra was much thicker than Conductonaut, then they changed it and made it extra watery.) It looks like they use more indium and silver in their formula.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CJ9QGDFV   They have some other products on their web site.

[win32asmguy]

The Sapphire Rapids build lives!

 

Getting almost 54k in CBR23 at 46x all core with the Noctua U14S and very poor airflow. The Antec Neo P7 barely fits everything and it does not have a good path to exhaust hot air for the Noctua in a horizontal orientation. I have a Fractal Define 7 XL on the way which should be a much better fit for everything and be easier to work on.

 

Other specs:

W7-2495X

Asus W790E-SAGE SE

4x16GB Teamgroup XMP 6400 CL32 RDIMM

MSI 4080 Super Ventus 3X OC

Optane P5800X 800GB

Corsair HX1500i

MSI - MAG 274QRF QD E2 27" QHD 180Hz (testing this for its built in KVM functionality)

 

Sadly the XMP 6400 profile was not stable when activated. It crashed with a MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD.

 

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, win32asmguy said:

The Sapphire Rapids build lives!

 

Getting almost 54k in CBR23 at 46x all core with the Noctua U14S and very poor airflow. The Antec Neo P7 barely fits everything and it does not have a good path to exhaust hot air for the Noctua in a horizontal orientation. I have a Fractal Define 7 XL on the way which should be a much better fit for everything and be easier to work on.

 

Other specs:

W7-2495X

Asus W790E-SAGE SE

4x16GB Teamgroup XMP 6400 CL32 RDIMM

MSI 4080 Super Ventus 3X OC

Optane P5800X 800GB

Corsair HX1500i

MSI - MAG 274QRF QD E2 27" QHD 180Hz (testing this for its built in KVM functionality)

 

Sadly the XMP 6400 profile was not stable when activated. It crashed with a MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD.

 

That's pretty sweet. Loving that Cinebench score. Show us some photos when you can.

 

Try setting the XMP profile and increase the voltage to like 1.500V for the memory and see if that works. I find XMP profiles often need more voltage than what they set by default.

[Clamibot]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have not seen this liquid metal before. Looks very interesting--especially the higher viscosity part--so I ordered some to try the next time I need to take something apart. It seems like over the years that liquid metal formulas have changed and have a lower viscosity than they used to, and I think that makes it more likely to drip or run. (The original Liquid Ultra was much thicker than Conductonaut, then they changed it and made it extra watery.) It looks like they use more indium and silver in their formula.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CJ9QGDFV   They have some other products on their web site.

 

I'm very interested in your end results! I just bought some Conductonaut extreme since I used the rest of my Conductonaut on the build I did for my buddy over the weekend. This liquid metal here looks like it has even better thermal conductivity.

[Clamibot]

Also if anyone needs extra cotton swabs for applying liquid metal, they're these Japanese ones: https://www.amazon.com/Tifanso-Cruelty-Free-Biodegradable-Chlorine-Free-Hypoallergenic/dp/B07R8B93GL/ref=asc_df_B07R8B93GL?mcid=e042f9f5c5c2392481644c9da3b526ea&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693127596188&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14693873930929850647&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026808&hvtargid=pla-757827286496&th=1

 

Don't waste your money on ordering extra swabs from Thermal Grizzly. They're just doing an insane upcharge on the swabs I mentioned above. The swabs are "special" in the sense that they're more densely packed than q-tips, which helps a lot with spreading the liquid metal, but they're just regular cotton swabs otherwise.

[Mr. Fox]

18 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

Also if anyone needs extra cotton swabs for applying liquid metal, they're these Japanese ones: https://www.amazon.com/Tifanso-Cruelty-Free-Biodegradable-Chlorine-Free-Hypoallergenic/dp/B07R8B93GL/ref=asc_df_B07R8B93GL?mcid=e042f9f5c5c2392481644c9da3b526ea&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693127596188&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14693873930929850647&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026808&hvtargid=pla-757827286496&th=1

 

Don't waste your money on ordering extra swabs from Thermal Grizzly. They're just doing an insane upcharge on the swabs I mentioned above. The swabs are "special" in the sense that they're more densely packed than q-tips, which helps a lot with spreading the liquid metal, but they're just regular cotton swabs otherwise.

I agree. Silly to pay a lot for something like this. I recently ordered these. Looks like they're essentially the same with a different brand name on the outside. They are tightly spun and less fuzzy  than regular cotton swabs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WDH7TW3

  

21 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

I'm very interested in your end results! I just bought some Conductonaut extreme since I used the rest of my Conductonaut on the build I did for my buddy over the weekend. This liquid metal here looks like it has even better thermal conductivity.

I will post something when the time comes. They offer a 5 gram tube but it is over $40. That is a ton of liquid metal and a reasonable price considering how much, but I ordered the 1.5g for a whole lot less money just to see how it works before I order a ton of it. I pay less attention to the W/mK ratings than I used to because they are often not an accurate indicator of how the product works.

 

I think some of the companies in China just make stuff up and put it in their product information because they know they'll never need to provide proof to support what they print. I tried some thermal paste recently that had a very high W/mK rating and it was rubbish. I got it at no cost and will use it for temporary application purposes on something I know will be taken apart again.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I will post something when the time comes. They offer a 5 gram tube but it is over $40. That is a ton of liquid metal and a reasonable price considering how much, but I ordered the 1.5g for a whole lot less money just to see how it works before I order a ton of it. I pay less attention to the W/mK ratings than I used to because they are often not an accurate indicator of how the product works.

 

I think some of the companies in China just make stuff up and put it in their product information because they know they'll never need to provide proof to support what they print. I tried some thermal paste recently that had a very high W/mK rating and it was rubbish. I got it at no cost and will use it for temporary application purposes on something I know will be taken apart again.

 

Yup. Thermal Conductivity numbers at 130 W/m-K is more as a scam fake number. More of the higher conductive matrial Indium won't make magic if you know that Indium can't reach above 86W/mK as standalone metal alloy. And Indium is what's make the high conductive numbers in any Liquid metal. 

 

 

See also... A lie or a gray area? How to construct high thermal conductivity.

 

 Anyway. Looking forwards to results 🙂

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I agree. Silly to pay a lot for something like this. I recently ordered these. Looks like they're essentially the same with a different brand name on the outside. They are tightly spun and less fuzzy  than regular cotton swabs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WDH7TW3

 

Dang. I know why you wanted these swabs😁

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Yup. Thermal Conductivity numbers at 130 W/m-K is more as a scam fake number. More of the higher conductive matrial Indium won't make magic if you know that Indium can't reach above 86W/mK as standalone metal alloy. And Indium is what's make the high conductive numbers in any Liquid metal. 

Always measure results, not marketing information. I am interested if the consistency (viscosity) is better and anticipate the cooling will be what it always is for liquid metal.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Dang. I know why you wanted these swabs😁

Darn it, you caught me. I need to update the logo.

 

[ssj92]

On 12/7/2024 at 8:43 AM, win32asmguy said:

@tps3443 @ssj92

 

Do you think the Asus W790 SAGE would be better than the Asrock W790 regarding memory overclocking, as it is only 1DPC instead of 2DPC? I will only use the 2495X for now with 4x16GB, a single GPU and a storage adapter card. The SAGE also fully supports W-3400 so it could be more useful if I ever picked up one of those chips. Both of these boards are the same price right now and the $500 Asrock W790 R2.0 is not available at the moment.

I would get the SAGE especially since it's cheaper than it's original price right now. They're even still providing BIOS updates for it whereas the ASRock and ASUS W790 ACE haven't had one in awhile. 

 

There's a lot of options in BIOS for memory as well. 

 

And it gives you the option to get a 34/35xx CPU with octa-channel memory in the future. 

 

  

2 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

The Sapphire Rapids build lives!

 

Getting almost 54k in CBR23 at 46x all core with the Noctua U14S and very poor airflow. The Antec Neo P7 barely fits everything and it does not have a good path to exhaust hot air for the Noctua in a horizontal orientation. I have a Fractal Define 7 XL on the way which should be a much better fit for everything and be easier to work on.

 

Other specs:

W7-2495X

Asus W790E-SAGE SE

4x16GB Teamgroup XMP 6400 CL32 RDIMM

MSI 4080 Super Ventus 3X OC

Optane P5800X 800GB

Corsair HX1500i

MSI - MAG 274QRF QD E2 27" QHD 180Hz (testing this for its built in KVM functionality)

 

Sadly the XMP 6400 profile was not stable when activated. It crashed with a MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD.

 

 

 

Okay nvm I see you went with the sage LOL

 

Use a 120mm fan to blow air to the DIMMs 

 

Also you're gonna need liquid cooling probably. What are your CPU temps?

 

I couldn't do better than 4.1Ghz all core with the U14S. 

 

Now with 2x480mm RADs I can hit 4.6Ghz quite easily. 

 

I guess the 24xx chips probably run cooler too than 34xx 

[electrosoft]

19 hours ago, electrosoft said:

So I've been using this x670e Hero to tune back in my 6000 on this 7600x. Set up some other profiles, and get it all ready for the hopefully replacement 9800X3D.

 

I go to test out some fans on it and the bottom three fan headers are defective and keep shorting with fan(s) plugged in. Other fan headers work ok.

 

So in summary, Amazon Resale x670e Hero:

 

1. Missing CPU heatsink brackets

2. Missing thermal pads

3. Previous owner used some type of thermal grease I can not get the stains off the heatsinks

4. Lower three chained 4 pin fan headers are defective

 

Fun re-tuning the memory on it though. Back to Amazon Resale it goes.

 

 

 

 

And as expected, Newegg messaged me totday to let me know the 9800X3D isn't in stock and won't be for the foreseeable future so they're refunding me the entire balance.

 

Thus ends my current AM5 saga. 🙂

 

Back to the "lowly" tuned SP109 14900KS....

 

I have to say I got so used to the 4090 at 4k gaming, I was used to seeing both X3D and Intel gasping for breath and the 4090 rarely hitting usage cap in both WoW and Fallout (especially Fallout, where it would drop to close to 60% many locations), but 4070 Super? 99-100% just about everywhere but very playable especially in Fallout.

 

Like I said, in Raids and PvP I had to begrudgingly flip on the Raids/PvP graphics option so I wasn't dipping into the 50s in WoW. 4070 Super is taking a pounding.

 

WOW

 

FO76

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

And as expected, Newegg messaged me totday to let me know the 9800X3D isn't in stock and won't be for the foreseeable future so they're refunding me the entire balance.

 

Thus ends my current AM5 saga. 🙂

That's interesting. I wonder why? Production issues? Or a NewEgg issue?

 

Edit: It looks like a production (stock availability) issue for both Ryzen 9 CPUs and the 9800X3D. AMD has only the undesirable Ryzen 7 models and below available on their web store. The good CPU supply is gone. 
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-wider-availability-next-quarter/

 

Edited December 9 by Mr. Fox
added comments

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's interesting. I wonder why? Production issues? Or a NewEgg issue?

 

Edit: It looks like a production (stock availability) issue for both Ryzen 9 CPUs and the 9800X3D. AMD has only the undesirable Ryzen 7 models and below available on their web store. The good CPU supply is gone. 
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-wider-availability-next-quarter/

 

 

Makes sense.

 

Amazon was taking 9800X3D orders and kept pushing the delivery dates out till they reached early February and stopped taking orders. That was a few weeks ago.

 

I'm fine waiting and seeing where everything goes. Gives me time to finish selling these last few things and hunker down till Feb/March for a potential 5090 and make space while slowly piecing out this water loop over the next month or so.

 

Pretty sure I'm going to go with a 420 in the front and a 360 on the bottom to keep the rest of the upper portion clutter free for working within it with soft tubing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

On 12/6/2024 at 1:56 AM, ssj92 said:

Didn't come out as nice as I had envisioned (hard tubing was hard to bend LOL) but still was a fun build:

 

 

Just a test at 4.6Ghz:

 

Looks great! Very very nice build! Now, you gotta go and grab a few more 3465X chips and bin them up. 😂 I’m 100% kidding of course. 

My brand new Xeon w3175X ended up being worse than my first one lol. So, I swapped back to my old chip. There wasn’t a huge difference between them which tells me these chips are all probably pretty consistent to one another. 
 

1st w3175X runs 4.7Ghz@1.205V

2nd w3175X runs 4.6Ghz@1.215V

 

How has the reliability been on this thing? 

On 12/7/2024 at 11:43 AM, win32asmguy said:

@tps3443 @ssj92

 

Do you think the Asus W790 SAGE would be better than the Asrock W790 regarding memory overclocking, as it is only 1DPC instead of 2DPC? I will only use the 2495X for now with 4x16GB, a single GPU and a storage adapter card. The SAGE also fully supports W-3400 so it could be more useful if I ever picked up one of those chips. Both of these boards are the same price right now and the $500 Asrock W790 R2.0 is not available at the moment.

This I’m unsure about. I think either option can push really close to the boundaries on RDIMM ECC DDR5 overclocking stability though, biggest thing seems to be ram setup overall. Watch out for the Asrock W790 2.0 it has a very very stripped down I/O port setup unless you’re okay with that. 
 

I’d probably just opt for the regular Asrock W790, or Asus W790 from what I’ve read these are really good at ram OC. I don’t think these boards are too drastically different with W790. Maybe just go for what has your favorite features and best price.
 

See this thread here and 350+ pages for more detail on W790 and ram tuning. I learned a lot here about the platform! 
 

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/w790-memory-overclocking/194169/81?page=5

[win32asmguy]

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's pretty sweet. Loving that Cinebench score. Show us some photos when you can.

 

Try setting the XMP profile and increase the voltage to like 1.500V for the memory and see if that works. I find XMP profiles often need more voltage than what they set by default.

 

Yep, this chip / platform is a lot of fun. I guess a 7970X Threadripper would have been higher performance, but I really wanted Intel and a monolithic chip.

 

Strangely I let it run with the XMP profile enabled looping memtest86 while I was at church tonight and it passed just fine. Booted into Windows and no BSOD yet.

 

8 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Okay nvm I see you went with the sage LOL

 

Use a 120mm fan to blow air to the DIMMs 

 

Also you're gonna need liquid cooling probably. What are your CPU temps?

 

I couldn't do better than 4.1Ghz all core with the U14S. 

 

Now with 2x480mm RADs I can hit 4.6Ghz quite easily. 

 

I guess the 24xx chips probably run cooler too than 34xx 

 

Yep, picked up the Sage from Micro Center over the weekend and really liking it so far. I will have better airflow for the whole system once I move it into the new, larger case. Liquid cooling may be on the table. The CPU thermal throttles at 94C at 46x all core with the current bad airflow. I think the horizontal orientation of the U14S is sub-optimal but from reviews it appears the NH-D9 4U is smaller and less capable.

 

I think the 3400 chips can cool well due to the massive surface area but there may be more heat generated from those tile interconnects.

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

This I’m unsure about. I think either option can push really close to the boundaries on RDIMM ECC DDR5 overclocking stability though, biggest thing seems to be ram setup overall. Watch out for the Asrock W790 2.0 it has a very very stripped down I/O port setup unless you’re okay with that. 
 

I’d probably just opt for the regular Asrock W790, or Asus W790 from what I’ve read these are really good at ram OC. I don’t think these boards are too drastically different with W790. Maybe just go for what has your favorite features and best price.
 

See this thread here and 350+ pages for more detail on W790 and ram tuning. I learned a lot here about the platform! 
 

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/w790-memory-overclocking/194169/81?page=5

 

I would actually have been pulled to the Asrock W790 or Asus W790-ACE more if they only had four memory slots instead of eight.

 

Lots of good info on level1techs for sure. I have noticed the HEDT crowd seems very AMD biased though. Even just going to Micro Center to pick up the Sage the sales reps there were confused as to why I was building with a Xeon instead of Threadripper.

[Mr. Fox]

https://browser.geekbench.com/ai/v1/155172 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5716615_

3DMark11 Physics Only (CPU) https://hwbot.org/submission/5716585_

[tps3443]

13 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

Yep, this chip / platform is a lot of fun. I guess a 7970X Threadripper would have been higher performance, but I really wanted Intel and a monolithic chip.

 

Strangely I let it run with the XMP profile enabled looping memtest86 while I was at church tonight and it passed just fine. Booted into Windows and no BSOD yet.

 

 

Yep, picked up the Sage from Micro Center over the weekend and really liking it so far. I will have better airflow for the whole system once I move it into the new, larger case. Liquid cooling may be on the table. The CPU thermal throttles at 94C at 46x all core with the current bad airflow. I think the horizontal orientation of the U14S is sub-optimal but from reviews it appears the NH-D9 4U is smaller and less capable.

 

I think the 3400 chips can cool well due to the massive surface area but there may be more heat generated from those tile interconnects.

 

 

I would actually have been pulled to the Asrock W790 or Asus W790-ACE more if they only had four memory slots instead of eight.

 

Lots of good info on level1techs for sure. I have noticed the HEDT crowd seems very AMD biased though. Even just going to Micro Center to pick up the Sage the sales reps there were confused as to why I was building with a Xeon instead of Threadripper.

 

I have found a lot of the AMD and Intel guys are a bit heavy with their emotions and brand loyalty. I totally understand that AMD has grown in to a great performing CPU and it’s definitely not just the value chip anymore. But people completely throw rationality out the window sometimes. My brother is a huge AMD fanboy. I get in to debates with him via text/call like all the time 🤣 Sometimes it really feels like he’s gonna get AMD tattooed on his cheeks man. 

 

 

[electrosoft]

27 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

 

I have found a lot of the AMD and Intel guys are a bit heavy with their emotions and brand loyalty. I totally understand that AMD has grown in to a great performing CPU and it’s definitely not just the value chip anymore. But people completely throw rationality out the window sometimes. My brother is a huge AMD fanboy. I get in to debates with him via text/call like all the time 🤣 Sometimes it really feels like he’s gonna get AMD tattooed on his cheeks man. 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I have found a lot of the AMD and Intel guys are a bit heavy with their emotions and brand loyalty. I totally understand that AMD has grown in to a great performing CPU and it’s definitely not just the value chip anymore. But people completely throw rationality out the window sometimes. My brother is a huge AMD fanboy. I get in to debates with him via text/call like all the time 🤣 Sometimes it really feels like he’s gonna get AMD tattooed on his cheeks man. 

Fanboys of any sort are hard to respect. I have a lot more respect for people that have no issues calling balls and strikes and are not afraid to tell someone their baby is ugly, as long as they give credit when it is due regardless of brand. There is a list of pros and cons for everything.

[Reciever]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Fanboys of any sort are hard to respect. I have a lot more respect for people that have no issues calling balls and strikes and are not afraid to tell someone their baby is ugly, as long as they give credit when it is due regardless of brand. There is a list of pros and cons for everything.

Here here! 

[win32asmguy]

Got everything transfered into the Fractal Define 7 XL tonight. Much more breathing room now! It is definitely one of the most versatile cases I have used. I need to work on cable management but it should be better for now to do more testing.

 

System is still stable with XMP activated. I think it may have been a bad interaction with the "Performance Mode" option in the bios.