*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm.

LoL, I was thinking something similar but less humorous. Not only "no" but "heck no" ...putrid.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I would rather just keep my current 4090 and not buy a 5090 at all. But I am going to try and buy one of course. Hopefully I can get one. If I can’t, I may very well waterblock my 4090, and use it in my build with new case/distro/etc and just keep it for a few years. I game for about 4-8 hours per week, and every time I play a game I think how fast this GPU is. 
 

But I know Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is coming soon. I want to be ready! Though the 4090 is probably good enough. 

NewEgg is now only offering $1350 for 4090 trade-ins and I don't think you can use trade-in to have in-store credit to use later. It has to be tied to a GPU purchase (literal trade-in) and the funds applied much like a post-sale partial refund or rebate after they receive and validate your trade-in. So, the idea of having the cash to pay for a X870E Apex from the previous trade-in credit doesn't look like it will work.

 

As soon as 5090 releases I bet they will be offering only $800 or $1,000 trade-in value for a 4090. 

[win32asmguy]

Made some progress with the 7945HX3D. I have it running at 1.35V now and copied the XMP profile primary timings and calculated a few others based on guides I have found. I am unsure how SODIMM effects what A die can do but at least this is 1DPC.

 

 

Notes:

SoC/Uncore OC Mode
  - SoC/Uncore OC Mode - enabled (VSOC higher voltage, FCLK/UCLK static)

Onboard voltage control
  - vddio voltage control
    - vddio Ctrl - manual
    - dimm vdd adjust - 1350 (sets VDDIO+VDD+VDDQ)
    - enable platform pmic control - disable (prevent EC adjustments?)

DDR and infinity fabric frequency/timings
  - infinity fabric frequency and dividers
    - infinity fabric frequency and dividers - 2067 (2133 stable but not 2:3 ratio)
    - uclk div1 mode - uclk=memclk (have not tested memclk/2)
  - DDR options
    - DDR timing configuration 
      - active memory timing settings - enabled
      - memory target speed - 6200 (6400 unstable)
      - DDR SPD timing
        - tCL - 0x26 / 38 (from XMP profile)
        - tRCD - 0x26 / 38 (from XMP profile)
        - tRP - 0x26 / 38 (from XMP profile)
        - tRAS - 0x3e / 62 (tRCD+tRTP)
        - tRC - 0x66 / 102 (tRCD+tRP+tRTP+2)
        - tWR - 0x30 / 48
        - tRFC1 - 0x193 / 403 (130ns from RFC mini chart for hynix A die)

 

[jaybee83]

curious to see how many of the initial "hold outs" here will cave and get a 5090 nonetheless 😄 hardware itch resistance is futile - NvidiBorg 😄 

[electrosoft]

7 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

curious to see how many of the initial "hold outs" here will cave and get a 5090 nonetheless 😄 hardware itch resistance is futile - NvidiBorg 😄 

 

Was never, ever going to buy one anyhow cause TEAM RED!! 🤣 

 

@Raiderman

 

Holding out:

 

@Mr. Fox

@Papusan

 

Going with the flow:

 

@electrosoft

 

Definitely buying:

 

@johnksss

@jaybee83

@tps3443

@Talon

 

Did I miss anyone? 🤣

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Holding out:

 

@Mr. Fox

@Papusan

 

Going with the flow:

 

@electrosoft

 

Definitely buying:

 

@johnksss

@jaybee83

@tps3443

@Talon

 

Did I miss anyone? 🤣

 

$2800 without tax? I will wait and see. With the Norwegian tax I see $3500 on my calculator. Add a block on top  and you'll see close to $4000. That's  a lot of money for more fake frames. And this is not even for the flagship models.

 

Custom RTX 5090, RTX 5080 listed for up to $2,800 and $1,400 overseas — initial pricing exceeds MSRP

 

 

Maybe Nvidia will try make a shortage to push up the ASP. And the new 32GBb cards is good for AI work. Nvidia know their drill.

 

NVIDIA RTX 50 will arrive in Spain in dribs and drabs, with retail limitations, AI-capped, and without multi-GPU

 

Why is NVIDIA putting so few units into circulation? Is it waiting to see what AMD does? If so, could those who buy right away see the MSRP adjust in a few weeks when the Reds show off their hardware?

 

Yup, you'll pay a lot extra for less than expected....

 

The RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 have the same amount of L1 cache as their predecessors, L2 will again be a performance bottleneck

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

$2800 without tax? I will wait and see. With the Norwegian tax I see $3500 on my calculator. Add a block on top  and you'll see close to $4000. That's  a lot of money for more fake frames.

 

Custom RTX 5090, RTX 5080 listed for up to $2,800 and $1,400 overseas — initial pricing exceeds MSRP

 

 

Maybe Nvidia will try make a shortage to push up the ASP. And the new 32GBb cards is good for AI work. Nvidia know their drill.

 

NVIDIA RTX 50 will arrive in Spain in dribs and drabs, with retail limitations, AI-capped, and without multi-GPU

 

Why is NVIDIA putting so few units into circulation? Is it waiting to see what AMD does? If so, could those who buy right away see the MSRP adjust in a few weeks when the Reds show off their hardware?

 

Yup, you'll pay a lot extra for less than expected....

 

The RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 have the same amount of L1 cache as their predecessors, L2 will again be a performance bottleneck

Lots of money for something that will be obsolete in a very short time, or displaced by a same-generation surprise SKU that suddenly moves your flagship GPU into the second fiddle chair. Not cool. Stepping up to pay for the best only to end up owning second best is no bueno. Maybe someday if Microcenter opens a Phoenix location where I can take back what I bought and apply the purchase price to an alternative. 

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

$2800 without tax? I will wait and see. With the Norwegian tax I see $3500 on my calculator. Add a block on top  and you'll see close to $4000. That's  a lot of money for more fake frames.

 

Custom RTX 5090, RTX 5080 listed for up to $2,800 and $1,400 overseas — initial pricing exceeds MSRP

 

 

Maybe Nvidia will try make a shortage to push up the ASP. And the new 32GBb cards is good for AI work. Nvidia know their drill.

 

NVIDIA RTX 50 will arrive in Spain in dribs and drabs, with retail limitations, AI-capped, and without multi-GPU

 

Why is NVIDIA putting so few units into circulation? Is it waiting to see what AMD does? If so, could those who buy right away see the MSRP adjust in a few weeks when the Reds show off their hardware?

 

Yup, you'll pay a lot extra for less than expected....

 

The RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 have the same amount of L1 cache as their predecessors, L2 will again be a performance bottleneck

 

yep, things are looking rough...latest rumours suggest initial supply will be super tight here in europe. but at least there were 7 reputable shops listed in germany that would get day 1 supply. i plan to register and prepare accounts on all of them and flip through them until i get one grabbed 😄  

[Clamibot]

10 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

Some of the old modular laptop crew may like this:

 

 

It is an interesting concept to say the least and probably what he had hinted at in a previous video.

 

Of course it is a bit of a bad joke that this unique watercooled more modular laptop that also sports a good keyboard layout is limited to 16" and rather basic memory and drive options.

 

 

Clevo is going back to making modular laptops again? Awesome! Or is that a Tongfang model?

Laptops just keep pulling me back in. I can't get away from them because the allure of portability is impossible to resist. Having said that, I also don't have a tolerance for laptops that are not modular, so I wouldn't buy such machines anyway. It takes something special like this to pique my interest, and it piques my interest HARD!

 

Let's hope we get a proper 18-19 inch DTR with that modularity + external water cooling. That'll be fun for benchmarks and awesome for max performance in an ultraportable form factor (yes I consider 18 inch laptops ultraportable). Speaking of which, I'll need that special water cooling heatsink for my X170 to perform an upgrade to the RTX 3080. That should be interesting.

[Papusan]

On 1/15/2025 at 10:22 PM, Papusan said:

Intel fails to raise its head with its Core Ultra 200S CPUs: FPS losses after the wave of patches and firmware, where is the promised performance?

This is yet another demonstration that what was seen at CES 2025 is just an attempt to dress up a product, the Core Ultra 200S, which present FPS losses compared to the Core 14 that are impossible for the blues to overcome, not even with overclocking and increased consumption.

 

Hmmm. I wonder what Intel can see but not the others. See above. Not  the first time Intel saw totally different results vs the reviewers. Have Intel posted more improvement patches the last 4-5 days @Talon? 

 

Intel claims Core Ultra 200 patches improve gaming performance by up to 26%

Synthetic benchmarks show even bigger potential gains

[Raiderman]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Holding out:

 

@Mr. Fox

@Papusan

 

Going with the flow:

 

@electrosoft

 

Definitely buying:

 

@johnksss

@jaybee83

@tps3443

@Talon

 

Did I miss anyone? 🤣

🤷‍♂️

[electrosoft]

9 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

🤷‍♂️

 

Updated! 😁

 

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Was never, ever going to buy one anyhow cause TEAM RED!! 🤣 

 

@Raiderman

 

Holding out:

 

@Mr. Fox

@Papusan

 

Going with the flow:

 

@electrosoft

 

Definitely buying:

 

@johnksss

@jaybee83

@tps3443

@Talon

 

Did I miss anyone? 🤣