*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It is very puzzling and disappointing that ASRock and Sapphire both built an AMD card with the fragile NVIDIA fire-starter 12VHPWR, aka 12V-2x6, aka POS-made-by-idiots-for-idiots, connector. Pretty hard to find any respect for either brand for having made such a deliberately stupid decision.

 

Unless there is something lurking in the shadows with higher power limits that we do not know about, looks to me like one of the XFX Mercury models with 340W TGP and 3100 boost are the only good (least gimped) purchase options.

 

https://www.amazon.com/shop/golfsgadget/list/M3B465V04BYO

 

Well, based on those side-by-side clips it seems like there isn't really anything special to write home about in terms of performance. Looks like a pretty lackluster product and very closely matched with the equally mediocre 5070 Ti that offers an unimpressive experience at a higher price. It is interesting see that the word "awesome" is being misdefined to mean that something qualifies as special on the basis that "it sucks less" than the alternatives. I am not seeing anything, anywhere, that fits the traditional definition that I plan to continue using. While it doesn't look like anything awesome, it does suck less than 5070 Ti on the basis of price.

  

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So much for the lies about AMD having good 9070 XT stock available. Another paper launch. I purchased one on NewEgg, checked out and got a confirmation email. A few minutes later a cancellation notice due to insufficient stock. Checked out twice at Amazon and same thing. And, scamming already happening. Prices increased in the past hour. So, eff them all. They can keep their janky overpriced lackluster GPU trash and kiss my hind end.

 

32 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

Welp, that didn't go as planned for me. I guess I am sitting this out as well.

 

Pity, but in my defense, I'm still laid up sick so I slept through the launch this morning after coughing up half a lung all night......

 

The problem is too many consumers have money (or credit) and lack self control to understand they are being price gouged because they need the new hotness NOW!.

 

Starting to realize the pure luck scoring a 5080 FE on launch day.....

 

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Yep the gaming days are over with. I still think it’s all a lie. If they can launch and sell a PS5 Pro and keep it in-stock for $699.99. Then They can definitely launch and sell a much lower demand item like the 9070XT for $699.99 and keep it in-stock 24/7/365. We are being lied to 100%. And these companies are ruining the hobby. If the whole

world wants to be a PC gamer and pay $1,000+ bucks for mid range junk they can have it. The truth is, I’m gonna be a last gen man from now on. That’s what I was before. It’s the best habit to practice. I’ll get my 5090 in 2 years! I’ll get my 5090 laptop in 2 years as well. These companies are literally dumping off all stock to scalpers, and system builders. As I have said before, there will be AI ran GPU dealerships in the future with 5-6 year financing options, and they’ll cost like 10-15K lol. Gaming is taking over at a level of holy crap. 

 

 

Unfortunately Acer has no such update for Intel 14th gen laptops. I’ve read that they aren’t really part of the degradation but I guess only time will tell. It really has been 100% reliable so far. 

 

Ask @Prema about his latest MC update patch for laptops that address this issue specifically so you can keep it running on launch each time just to be safe.

 

 

[electrosoft]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It is very puzzling and disappointing that ASRock and Sapphire both built an AMD card with the fragile NVIDIA fire-starter 12VHPWR, aka 12V-2x6, aka POS-made-by-idiots-for-idiots, connector. Pretty hard to find any respect for either brand for having made such a deliberately stupid decision.

 

Unless there is something lurking in the shadows with higher power limits that we do not know about, looks to me like one of the XFX Mercury models with 340W TGP and 3100 boost are the only good (least gimped) purchase options.

 

https://www.amazon.com/shop/golfsgadget/list/M3B465V04BYO

 

Well, based on those side-by-side clips it seems like there isn't really anything special to write home about in terms of performance. Looks like a pretty lackluster product and very closely matched with the equally mediocre 5070 Ti that offers an unimpressive experience at a higher price. It is interesting see that the word "awesome" is being misdefined to mean that something qualifies as special on the basis that "it sucks less" than the alternatives. I am not seeing anything, anywhere, that fits the traditional definition that I plan to continue using. While it doesn't look like anything awesome, it does suck less than 5070 Ti on the basis of price.

  

 

 

At MSRP, it is the new price:performance leader on all charts. That's where it shines. It clearly beats the 5070 and trades blows with the 5070ti. RT has been greatly improved and is better than the 7900xtx in that category and in many games it is much closer to the 7900xtx than the 7900xt.

 

$599.99 for the 9070xt is a fantastic price.

 

"It is a great card for the price" is the final word on it.

 

That's why I would only pick up an MSRP model. AIB pricier models and it quickly loses its value to me.

 

Best Buy has 5 models listed, all XFX, and only one $600 model. The next is $750 and up they go. That's a hard pass on all but the MSRP.

 

That's a sweet link to Amazon for all their models too!

 

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I was so disappointed to see the POS 12v-2x6 connector on the Taichi. That was heartbreaking. 😞

 

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Here is a good review of the 9070xt from someone I like for AMD stuff who is unabashedly an AMD fan. It is showing the 9070xt, 7900xtx, 7900xt and 4080 Super all stock AND OC'd shootout for both with 9800X3D tuned up a bit.

 

He was able to get his Sapphire 2 8-pin model OC'd to 3300 and it is definitely holding its own even against the 4080 Super and 7900XTX (while still losing though obviously overall).

 

Massive gains in RT and it clearly outpaces the 7900xtx in RT but Nvidia is still top dog overall. Really wishing we could see a 575w 9090xt(x) level model with 24-32gb hit the market. This architecture has potential!

 

$599.99 it is a banger of a card.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

$599.99 it is a banger of a card.

Before they vaporized the prices changed, went from $599.99 to $800 within about 5 minutes of launch and then there were no more. I purchased an XFX Mercury OC on NewEgg for $719 direct from NewEgg and completed the checkout, got a confirmation email. About 5 minutes later an email arrived notifying me it was cancelled due to no stock. I went back to the product page and it said 8 in stock for about $825 and I tried to add that to my cart and it said no longer available, so the scalping is being facilitated at the retailer level.

 

The same thing basicaly happened on Amazon. Loaded my cart several times with several diferent models and when attempting to complete the checkout process they were "out of stock" but going back to the product page it was still there at a higher price. So, they can stuff it. It's a fair (not great) value for $600 or $700 for a better SKU, but beyond that the value becomes as poor as a 5070 Ti and the purchase is pointless.

 

All of these PC part scalpers need to be rounded up, shot in the head and their carcasses left for buzzards to eat.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

All of these PC part scalpers need to be rounded up, shot in the head and their carcasses left for buzzards to eat.

 

We have 4 types scalpers. Nvidia (intently keeping the stock low), AIB, retail and the ordinary scalpers on top. 

 

I see 1 single 5090 card up for sale within next 3 days. Asus Astral OC. But the prices have increased $200 the last days even Norway isn't affected by the Trump tariff and the Norwgian valuta have now been improved vs USD (exchange rates against the US$ have improved greatly). This is destructive. Pure greed. 

 

Graphics card pricing is a lie

Both Nvidia and AMD are announcing prices for new GPUs that customers have essentially zero chance of actually paying.

 

Retailers Claim Second Wave Of Radeon RX 9070 Cards Will Have Higher Prices

 

Our second delivery from PowerColor is already waiting, and we cannot offer it at MSRP prices. This means that we will first sell the Reaper models at the MSRP price and the stock balance will tick down as usual until the first delivery is sold out. Then, with a certain delay, the stock will be filled with new cards and we will then release the Reaper cards for ordering again – but not at MSRP price.
— Johan Backelin, Inet.se

[Rage Set]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

At MSRP, it is the new price:performance leader on all charts. That's where it shines. It clearly beats the 5070 and trades blows with the 5070ti. RT has been greatly improved and is better than the 7900xtx in that category and in many games it is much closer to the 7900xtx than the 7900xt.

 

$599.99 for the 9070xt is a fantastic price.

 

"It is a great card for the price" is the final word on it.

 

That's why I would only pick up an MSRP model. AIB pricier models and it quickly loses its value to me.

 

Best Buy has 5 models listed, all XFX, and only one $600 model. The next is $750 and up they go. That's a hard pass on all but the MSRP.

 

That's a sweet link to Amazon for all their models too!

 

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I was so disappointed to see the POS 12v-2x6 connector on the Taichi. That was heartbreaking. 😞

 

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Here is a good review of the 9070xt from someone I like for AMD stuff who is unabashedly an AMD fan. It is showing the 9070xt, 7900xtx, 7900xt and 4080 Super all stock AND OC'd shootout for both with 9800X3D tuned up a bit.

 

He was able to get his Sapphire 2 8-pin model OC'd to 3300 and it is definitely holding its own even against the 4080 Super and 7900XTX (while still losing though obviously overall).

 

Massive gains in RT and it clearly outpaces the 7900xtx in RT but Nvidia is still top dog overall. Really wishing we could see a 575w 9090xt(x) level model with 24-32gb hit the market. This architecture has potential!

 

$599.99 it is a banger of a card.

 

 

 

The problem is a good amount of reviewers have stated that the MSRP models are essentially a limited-time deal. Most of the cards will go between 750 and 950. I knew the 600 cards were going to disappear quickly but I didn't expect the cards 850 and up to go that fast. 

 

I 'may' go to Microcenter though, but I don't really want to drive an hour. We will see. 

[Papusan]

LOOL. Yet another reason we see shortage of desktop graphics cards. The laptop market is damn important for OEMs. Regardless if the missing ROPS rumors is correct or not. 

 

GeForce RTX 50 laptop models said to be missing ROPs like desktop counterparts

 

A new report from Heise.de says Nvidia's laptop SKUs have also been reported to be missing ROPs (Render Output Units). This could result in a delayed launch because OEMs and Nvidia now need to conduct additional checks.

 

Exactly how many of these belong to Nvidia is unknown, but the recent non-availability of RTX 5070 cards and late launch of RTX 50 laptop SKUs suggest the company might have lost some inventory in the process. Plus, a DigiTimes report says the RTX 50 series has some performance and driver issues.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

49 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

The problem is a good amount of reviewers have stated that the MSRP models are essentially a limited-time deal. Most of the cards will go between 750 and 950. I knew the 600 cards were going to disappear quickly but I didn't expect the cards 850 and up to go that fast. 

 

I 'may' go to Microcenter though, but I don't really want to drive an hour. We will see. 

The Microcenter in Tustin had 3 ASUS Prime 9070 XT OC for $599.99 this morning and I almost reached out to @johnksss to see if he would be able to grab one for me. I'd buy them all day long for $600. That's a fantastic deal, but it's approaching the edge. I decided to not ask him to when I paused to consider CA sales tax being higher than normal and shipping would have to be added, so that would take it from being a pretty decent purchase to being a poor value prospect.

 

I think the value of this GPU is lost above about $700. This was built with the intent of it being a reasonably-priced average gamer GPU. It is not a flagship product. It's not an enthusiast or high end product no matter how you look at it, and should not be priced as if it were. I was satisfied with the 3060 Ti just for gaming. It was good enough. That is the category this product falls into... good enough, reasonable price. Being good enough is entirely predicated on the price remaining below the $700 to $800 range including tax and shipping. Otherwise, it is not good enough and not worth buying.

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

LOOL. Yet another reason we see shortage of desktop graphics cards. The laptop market is damn important for OEMs. Regardless if the missing ROPS rumors is correct or not. 

 

GeForce RTX 50 laptop models said to be missing ROPs like desktop counterparts

 

A new report from Heise.de says Nvidia's laptop SKUs have also been reported to be missing ROPs (Render Output Units). This could result in a delayed launch because OEMs and Nvidia now need to conduct additional checks.

 

Exactly how many of these belong to Nvidia is unknown, but the recent non-availability of RTX 5070 cards and late launch of RTX 50 laptop SKUs suggest the company might have lost some inventory in the process. Plus, a DigiTimes report says the RTX 50 series has some performance and driver issues.

 

 

What a disaster! I was so tempted to wait and buy a RTX 5080/5090 laptop. But after discovering their tiny performance gain, I passed. 
 

RTX4090/RTX5090 are both limited by almost the same power limit and almost the same CUDA core count. This makes both of these machines perform almost identically in real world. 
 

The only thing that changed was MSRP. If we want a MSI TITAN 18, it will cost me $6,500 USD with taxes. 🤯MSI has lost their sanity on that one. I don’t even get it, the $4,999 price point was already so much higher than the competition, they add another $1,000 USD on top for the same performance. 
 

The whole industry is just all over the place. 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

 

The problem is a good amount of reviewers have stated that the MSRP models are essentially a limited-time deal. Most of the cards will go between 750 and 950. I knew the 600 cards were going to disappear quickly but I didn't expect the cards 850 and up to go that fast. 

 

I 'may' go to Microcenter though, but I don't really want to drive an hour. We will see. 

 

100% agreed.

 

Therein lies the problem for myself. I won't pay much (if anything) over the $600 point as it quickly loses value for me. I sure as heck won't pay >=$700. The exception was going to be the Taichi....

 

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

LOOL. Yet another reason we see shortage of desktop graphics cards. The laptop market is damn important for OEMs. Regardless if the missing ROPS rumors is correct or not. 

 

GeForce RTX 50 laptop models said to be missing ROPs like desktop counterparts

 

A new report from Heise.de says Nvidia's laptop SKUs have also been reported to be missing ROPs (Render Output Units). This could result in a delayed launch because OEMs and Nvidia now need to conduct additional checks.

 

Exactly how many of these belong to Nvidia is unknown, but the recent non-availability of RTX 5070 cards and late launch of RTX 50 laptop SKUs suggest the company might have lost some inventory in the process. Plus, a DigiTimes report says the RTX 50 series has some performance and driver issues.

 

 

 

Just about as disastrous of a launch as it can get.....

 

58 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Microcenter in Tustin had 3 ASUS Prime 9070 XT OC for $599.99 this morning and I almost reached out to @johnksss to see if he would be able to grab one for me. I'd buy them all day long for $600. That's a fantastic deal, but it's approaching the edge. I decided to not ask him to when I paused to consider CA sales tax being higher than normal and shipping would have to be added, so that would take it from being a pretty decent purchase to being a poor value prospect.

 

I think the value of this GPU is lost above about $700. This was built with the intent of it being a reasonably-priced average gamer GPU. It is not a flagship product. It's not an enthusiast or high end product no matter how you look at it, and should not be priced as if it were. I was satisfied with the 3060 Ti just for gaming. It was good enough. That is the category this product falls into... good enough, reasonable price. Being good enough is entirely predicated on the price remaining below the $700 to $800 range including tax and shipping. Otherwise, it is not good enough and not worth buying.

 

This.

 

$600 is a fantastic get.

 

$625-700 I'm losing interest.

 

>$700 I'm out.

 

7 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

What a disaster! I was so tempted to wait and buy a RTX 5080/5090 laptop. But after discovering their tiny performance gain, I passed. 
 

RTX4090/RTX5090 are both limited by almost the same power limit and almost the same CUDA core count. This makes both of these machines perform almost identically in real world. 
 

The only thing that changed was MSRP. If we want a MSI TITAN 18, it will cost me $6,500 USD with taxes. 🤯MSI has lost their sanity on that one. I don’t even get it, the $4,999 price point was already so much higher than the competition, they add another $1,000 USD on top for the same performance. 
 

The whole industry is just all over the place. 

 

The writing was on the wall actually seeing as how the 5090 desktop requires so much more power while laptops are still capped. It is the 2080 Super -> 3080/ti laptop scenario all over again.

 

 

[tps3443]

Look what just arrived!!! 
 

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 3/6/2025 at 2:59 PM, electrosoft said:

100% agreed.

 

Therein lies the problem for myself. I won't pay much (if anything) over the $600 point as it quickly loses value for me. I sure as heck won't pay >=$700. The exception was going to be the Taichi....

 

Just about as disastrous of a launch as it can get.....

 

$600 is a fantastic get.

 

$625-700 I'm losing interest.

 

>$700 I'm out.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't affect me in the slightest in the short-term. I mean, I have two 4090s, a 3090 Ti FTW3 and sitting on a shelf I have a Strix 1080 and a tired old Titan. The real problem, for all of us, is the precedent that is being set will haunt us well into the future. What is in motion now is bad for the world today and the world tomorrow and everyone will ultimately end up suffering because of what is being tolerated today.

 

What makes me bummed out more at a human level are a couple of things.

1. Recent GPU launches have shown us how extraordinarily stupid a larger than expected segment of our respective gaming and overclocking hobbies are. It is deflating and demoralizing to see that such a huge deficit of common sense exists in what I once thought to be a society of the smartest people around. It has highlighted how incredibly messed up, evil and dishonest the companies are that we give our money to. What is happening today with the 9070 XT is straight out of what we would have called the "NVIDIA playbook" and a repeat of the idiocy we saw from the Green Goblin less than 90 days ago. We are surrounded and outnumbered by stupid people that are willing to spend any amount of money indiscriminately to posses whatever they want, even when doing so has no logical answer or rationale to support it.
2. I wasn't excited about RX 9070 XT as a product because it is inferior to the GPUs I already own and use daily. What I was optimistic about was the prospect that AMD was telling the truth about GPU stock available and already in-store waiting to purchase, with "plenty of 9070 XTs to go around" for everyone that wants one, and a price point that actually realistically resembles its performance level. I was pleased that the 9950X wasn't another regrettable "second chance" example of poor judgment on my part. (I have always wanted them to be successful, but they never did anything well enough in my eyes before.) Given the 9950X was acceptable to me, I was eager to give AMD another chance to show me that they actually can do things right. I fully expected it would be the first AMD GPU that I did not hate. But, the availability lies and unrealistic pricing is putting them in the same class of untrustworthy clowns that NVIDIA has earned its way into. As much as I want AMD to be rewarded for doing something right, there is no way I am going to pay $800 for a mediocre mid-range consumer GPU.

[jaybee83]

welp, if anyone is interested:

 

i finished setting up a fresh windows install, now on 24H2 (including all the lovely performance bumps for AMD cpus) and i ran into the black screen on boot issue on driver 572.65 (was aware of that on 50 series but seems like 40 series is also affected).

 

just updated to 572.70 and issue seems to be fixed. lets hope this sticks 😄 

 

soooo, anyone excited and ready to get a 9950X3D next week? 🙂 curious to see if theres gonna be any impact on the max. DDR5 spee / timings i can achieve with the new CPU. held back on a bios update for that reason, as well. will do everything in one felll swoop (fresh windows, latest chipset, bios) once i got my hands on the new cpu.

[tps3443]

This case freakin swallows thick 480’s whole!!! I need two more lol. Dang….I need one for the front, and one for the bottom. 
 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

soooo, anyone excited and ready to get a 9950X3D next week?

Too early to know. Maybe, but not unless I see strong evidence that they overclock the core higher, not voltage-capped to protect the cache and have a stronger memory controller. The X3D part is of no value to me, but better silicon quality would be.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

welp, if anyone is interested:

 

i finished setting up a fresh windows install, now on 24H2 (including all the lovely performance bumps for AMD cpus) and i ran into the black screen on boot issue on driver 572.65 (was aware of that on 50 series but seems like 40 series is also affected).

 

just updated to 572.70 and issue seems to be fixed. lets hope this sticks 😄 

 

The only drawback. nvidia robbed you for some performance. New is newer isn't it?🤔 And nviidia  have no time for performance tuning right now. They have enought with fixing bugs/problems for/with 5000 series. 

[Talon]

On 3/3/2025 at 4:51 PM, tps3443 said:

I received my 4090 laptop in the mail today. This was purchased with funds intended for an RTX 5090. However, since the RTX 5090 does not actually exist, (I’m not really near any local stores to really buy one) so I just gave up with trying to buy one online, and moved on with life. With my job, I’m finding my self having to stay at my desk 7a-7p. It’s paying well. But getting promoted to an operations manager requires me to play at a level of pure beast mode/be the best mode/no excuses allowed. 😂 So, I really needed a laptop for constant monitoring and check-in’s etc. 
 

First impressions: 

 

incredible panel! 😱 .. It’s just like OLED, maybe even better sometimes since it’s 1,000 nits bright and all.. No back light bleeding anywhere, I don’t even see any glowing at all. It’s 250Hz/ 16:10 aspect ratio, and 2560x1600/ Mini LED. So it’s really beautiful! You can run the brightness on 5% and it looks perfectly normal brightness like a regular monitor lol. 
 

CPU: 14900HX, feels very fast just using the machine. With fans silent it’s idling about 55-60c while downloading a game on Steam. With fans at 100% it’s not too bad. It’s LOUD! But the pitch and tone of the noise doesn’t make it annoying at all. It’s just noisy. But not annoying. 
 

GPU: Haven’t really gotten an opportunity to really use it just yet. But I’m expecting good things. It’s a 175w 4090 Mobile. 
 

Performance: So, I’m not expecting 4090 desktop power here obviously. But, it has DLSS3, and Frame Gen, and it’s 2560x1600! If my old 3090 Kingpin had frame Gen, I’d have never sold it! These are amazing features to have. Since Nvidia and AIB’s a like just recently killed the affordable gaming market for average people like me all together, buying a 4090 laptop seemed like the only way to go. Since even a RTX 5090 laptop MSI Raider will set you back an eye watering $5,000+ after taxes. 

 

Value: It’s a $2,000 dollar laptop. So, I think it’s going to offer a great value for what you get. A whole computer capable of decent gaming performance that is portable. 

 

Overall: This is a BIG laptop being 18 inches. I’ve never owned an 18” laptop before. The screen doesn’t feel like I’m squinting or leaning forward to find things like my last 15” laptop. And the 16:10 offers a little more desktop space to get things done. 
 

 

I really like the machine.

 

 

Dang I wish I had known you were in the market. I just sold my Legion 7i Pro with 13900HX, 6000 CL36 DDR5 with tuned timings, and RTX 4090 175w. I have been rocking a wussy boy G14 with an AMD 8945HS 8 core and an RTX 4070 (vomit) 100w or something similar for almost 6 months and the Legion was sitting in my closet. I mostly use the G14 for browsing the web and some light gaming on my overnights in the hotel. I got so sick of lugging around my beastly Lenovo and really wanted a 3-4lb laptop that I didn't notice in my bags. I really liked the Lenovo, it was around 6lbs but used every lb and inch of space wisely. Compact yet powerful, with a full coverage vapor chamber that let the 4090 and 13900HX stretch it legs pretty hard. Also I could access the BIOS with a semi hack to tune pretty much everything I wanted fairly easily. But in the end, lugging around the 6lbs, nearly 2x the weight, not including the 330w brick, I got sick of it. When traveling 2-4 days at a time on the road, space is a premium. 

 

I'm considering going to a 4lb G16 16" laptop with RTX 50, but I question why given most evenings I use the laptop mostly to catch up on YouTube, Reddit, forums, or watch Netflix. Something the G14 with it's 14" 120Hz OLED does very well. 

 

Congrats on that beast, looks really nice. 

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Dang I wish I had known you were in the market. I just sold my Legion 7i Pro with 13900HX, 6000 CL36 DDR5 with tuned timings, and RTX 4090 175w. I have been rocking a wussy boy G14 with an AMD 8945HS 8 core and an RTX 4070 (vomit) 100w or something similar for almost 6 months and the Legion was sitting in my closet. I mostly use the G14 for browsing the web and some light gaming on my overnights in the hotel. I got so sick of lugging around my beastly Lenovo and really wanted a 3-4lb laptop that I didn't notice in my bags. I really liked the Lenovo, it was around 6lbs but used every lb and inch of space wisely. Compact yet powerful, with a full coverage vapor chamber that let the 4090 and 13900HX stretch it legs pretty hard. Also I could access the BIOS with a semi hack to tune pretty much everything I wanted fairly easily. But in the end, lugging around the 6lbs, nearly 2x the weight, not including the 330w brick, I got sick of it. When traveling 2-4 days at a time on the road, space is a premium. 

 

I'm considering going to a 4lb G16 16" laptop with RTX 50, but I question why given most evenings I use the laptop mostly to catch up on YouTube, Reddit, forums, or watch Netflix. Something the G14 with it's 14" 120Hz OLED does very well. 

 

Congrats on that beast, looks really nice. 

Yep! I had been in the market about a few weeks tossing around the idea of getting a new laptop. I was looking at Asus G14’s. Preferably the 4090 models, but I know they get super hot and are extremely limited. But it’s really okay I think. I’m gaming on this Acer Predator Helios. And the experience is fantastic! Butter smooth. I can dial the performance down and reduce the fans a bit for a quieter experience. And it’s still smooth. This machine is really big and heavy though, but I only move it to my kitchen island, kitchen table, back to my office desk. I can work on the go around my house. And at night I can play a game out in the kitchen while my wife makes dinner sometimes. That’s about it really.

 

After owning this 4090 machine, I can really appreciate the lighter 4060/4070 machines even more now. Because this machine has more power than I need really. 

[johnksss]

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Microcenter in Tustin had 3 ASUS Prime 9070 XT OC for $599.99 this morning and I almost reached out to @johnksss to see if he would be able to grab one for me. I'd buy them all day long for $600. That's a fantastic deal, but it's approaching the edge. I decided to not ask him to when I paused to consider CA sales tax being higher than normal and shipping would have to be added, so that would take it from being a pretty decent purchase to being a poor value prospect.

 

I think the value of this GPU is lost above about $700. This was built with the intent of it being a reasonably-priced average gamer GPU. It is not a flagship product. It's not an enthusiast or high end product no matter how you look at it, and should not be priced as if it were. I was satisfied with the 3060 Ti just for gaming. It was good enough. That is the category this product falls into... good enough, reasonable price. Being good enough is entirely predicated on the price remaining below the $700 to $800 range including tax and shipping. Otherwise, it is not good enough and not worth buying.

That would have been 646.49 out the door with no warranty and at MC regular store prices. I would have probably just traded on a favor. So less than 600.00 out the door with shipping I think. Not sure how much to ship to AZ.

 

@tps3443 You probably would have done better just running a 5070 ti. Maybe that is the 4090 Jensen was talking about on par and beating it because it sure does beat that 4090 hands down.

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, johnksss said:

That would have been 646.49 out the door with no warranty and at MC regular store prices. I would have probably just traded on a favor. So less than 600.00 out the door with shipping I think. Not sure how much to ship to AZ.

 

@tps3443 You probably would have done better just running a 5070 ti. Maybe that is the 4090 Jensen was talking about on par and beating it because it sure does beat that 4090 hands down.

Thanks brother. There was no doubt in my mind that I could count on you for that. I knew you'd be happy to do it for me and I almost called you. At the time they had several models of 9070 XT in stock that interested me based on the higher power limit and boost clock that were priced around $600.

 

Rather than acting on impulse I just waited a bit and decided I didn't need to spend that money on a GPU downgrade, especially since I've never owned an AMD GPU that I actually liked much. Basically I had logic kick in and I got cold feet LoL. I went back a few hours later out of curiosity and everything good was sold out and the only thing left were the models that had less to offer at a higher price. But they hadn't jacked up the prices to take advantage of customers like their skanky competitors had already done. Their inventory was the only source that had not increased prices to grossly unrealistic values within a couple hours.

[jaybee83]

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

The only drawback. nvidia robbed you for some performance. New is newer isn't it?🤔 And nviidia  have no time for performance tuning right now. They have enought with fixing bugs/problems for/with 5000 series. 

 oh is that the case? i just ran some quick PR and speedway and the numbers looked alright.

 

edit: whoa this seems crazy: https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-572-70-whql-driver-download.455596/page-5#post-6314902

 

definitely not seeing a 5-10% perf drop here 😮 but ill keep an eye out on those mentioned stutters during loading...

[Meaker]

I managed to get a close to MSRP 9070xt reaper from powercolor that fits in my case. It will arrive tomorrow 😊

[tps3443]

8 hours ago, johnksss said:

That would have been 646.49 out the door with no warranty and at MC regular store prices. I would have probably just traded on a favor. So less than 600.00 out the door with shipping I think. Not sure how much to ship to AZ.

 

@tps3443 You probably would have done better just running a 5070 ti. Maybe that is the 4090 Jensen was talking about on par and beating it because it sure does beat that 4090 hands down.

Man your overclocking results with your 5070Ti were impressive, I am really wondering how one of these would do on chilled water or something. But, yeah I really think so lol. Jensen was talking about 5070Ti beats the RTX 4090.  the 175w laptop 4090 from 2 years ago 😂. 
 

Would be so cool to juice one of these laptop 4090’s up to the same power levels as the 4080 desktop. 
 

@jaybee83 which GPU are you running? Did you ever get a 5090? Would be awesome to see Nvidia drop a 5090Ti with dual connectors. Something capable of 1200W. Maybe if that launches it’ll bring the regular 5090’s down. 

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Man your overclocking results with your 5070Ti were impressive, I am really wondering how one of these would do on chilled water or something. But, yeah I really think so lol. Jensen was talking about 5070Ti beats the RTX 4090.  the 175w laptop 4090 from 2 years ago 😂. 
 

Would be so cool to juice one of these laptop 4090’s up to the same power levels as the 4080 desktop. 
 

@jaybee83 which GPU are you running? Did you ever get a 5090? Would be awesome to see Nvidia drop a 5090Ti with dual connectors. Something capable of 1200W. Maybe if that launches it’ll bring the regular 5090’s down. 

 

still rocking the 4090 suprim and on the lookout for a 5090 suprim. today was actually the first time i saw one available for purchase at an online retailer outside of ebay. price was still too high though, albeit getting lower every day. shouldnt be long now anymore 🙂 

[electrosoft]

17 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

welp, if anyone is interested:

 

i finished setting up a fresh windows install, now on 24H2 (including all the lovely performance bumps for AMD cpus) and i ran into the black screen on boot issue on driver 572.65 (was aware of that on 50 series but seems like 40 series is also affected).

 

just updated to 572.70 and issue seems to be fixed. lets hope this sticks 😄 

 

soooo, anyone excited and ready to get a 9950X3D next week? 🙂 curious to see if theres gonna be any impact on the max. DDR5 spee / timings i can achieve with the new CPU. held back on a bios update for that reason, as well. will do everything in one felll swoop (fresh windows, latest chipset, bios) once i got my hands on the new cpu.

 

I just finished my 9800X3D setup tuned to the bone so I'm good to go for awhile now.

 

7 hours ago, Meaker said:

I managed to get a close to MSRP 9070xt reaper from powercolor that fits in my case. It will arrive tomorrow 😊

 

Awesome Meaker! Make sure to put up some pictures and bench results!

 

16 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

still rocking the 4090 suprim and on the lookout for a 5090 suprim. today was actually the first time i saw one available for purchase at an online retailer outside of ebay. price was still too high though, albeit getting lower every day. shouldnt be long now anymore 🙂 

 

Yep, as predicted, by June things will look a lot better and prices slowly continue to come down even as availability is somewhat scarce. By September, we'll look back on January and giggle.....

 

 

[tps3443]

The 5090 scalper prices on eBay have reached an all time low. So that’s definitely GOOD!!