*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

On 3/19/2025 at 8:47 PM, Papusan said:

And MSI cater to their audience. Maybe get one. I mean the fluffy MSI toy figure. @electrosoft you have MSI as Nr. 1 brand. A must have in the gaming room?😁

 

A mascot should be a reflection of the "team" it was selected by. So, what does their cartoon toy dragon tell you? Yeah, me too. Not good. They should have chosen a fear-invoking Viking style of dragon instead of a sissy-boy cartoon dragon. 

[Papusan]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

A mascot should be a reflection of the "team" it was selected by. So, what does their cartoon toy dragon tell you? Yeah, me too. Not good. They should have chosen a Viking style of dragson instead of a sissy-boy cartoon dragon.

 

They all should stop the crap... Asus put all efforts into try please the new/next gen gamers thats not finished pee in their pants. 

 

 

 

Here I sit home in the livingroom... I'm sooo damn excited about this new Asus product that I haven't bothered test it. When... Maybe tomorrow, Sunday or maybe out in next week. I took out the card to take a look to see if the card wasn't damaged.That's all. Yup, I'm damn exited. I'll tell you... I'm usually more exited when I buy used cards. That's gives me much more. 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

19 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

A mascot should be a reflection of the "team" it was selected by. So, what does their cartoon toy dragon tell you? Yeah, me too. Not good. They should have chosen a fear-invoking Viking style of dragon instead of a sissy-boy cartoon dragon. 

 

5 minutes ago, Papusan said:

They all should stop the crap... 

Here I sit home in the livingroom... I'm sooo damn excited about this new Asus product that I haven't bothered test it. When... Maybe tomorrow, Sunday or maybe out in next week. I took out the card to take a look tosee if the card wasn't damaged.That's all. Yup, I'm damn exited. I'll tell you... I'm usally more exited when I buy used cards. That's gives me much more. 

Plush toys for children is how the "leaders" of the PC tech industry view things. These namby-pamby wusses are why overclocking is swiftly dying being systematically ruined by idiots and dishonest manufacturers. Maybe they should ship baby bottles and pacifiers with their products as free bonus gifts.

[tps3443]

47 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

They all should stop the crap... Asus put all efforts into try please the new/next gen gamers thats not finished pee in their pants. 

 

 

 

Here I sit home in the livingroom... I'm sooo damn excited about this new Asus product that I haven't bothered test it. When... Maybe tomorrow, Sunday or maybe out in next week. I took out the card to take a look to see if the card wasn't damaged.That's all. Yup, I'm damn exited. I'll tell you... I'm usually more exited when I buy used cards. That's gives me much more. 

 

 

 

 

It’s a beast of a GPU you’ve got. I get what you mean. I’ll never achieve the level of excitement I got when I was a teenager getting a new GPU lol. But, it’s a great card. 32GB VRAM, and lots of Cuda cores. Yours being a 360mm AIO, is gonna operate pretty quiet in gaming if that’s its intended purpose. They love to skimp these days, but it’s still a 5090 Astral. “Now you’re supposed to start drooling when you hold it 🤤” 

 

Also, I flushed my loop out! Back to clear. I may go to another color. Not that plum purple looking pink, which was supposed to be “RED” 😝 It took me 8+ gallons of distilled to flush it, and it still comes out with a very slight tint of color. I’m going to add (4) more Lian Li P28 fans to the front of the case. And, I’m done. I do want one of those EKWB 5090FE blocks though. That gets me excited!! I will say the Nvidia 5090FE is great so far. Especially for the LOW LOW price of only $2,125 after taxes 🤣 (Okay okay, seriously it’s a good card. It’s quiet, and it’s small, it runs cool. It’s very fast. Seems like they went with no fancy packaging at all. All the packaging is just basic brown/white cardboard board. That’s fine with me. The card feels like a small tank. It feels heavier than a 4090, but it’s actually lighter than one. I think it’s because it is more compressed. But, it’s stable and reliable and overclocks pretty good. So that counts for something! (Also I learned sometimes excitement can be delayed with PC parts) 
 

 

 

[Papusan]

20 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

It’s a beast of a GPU you’ve got. I get what you mean. I’ll never achieve the level of excitement I got when I was a teenager getting a new GPU lol. But, it’s a great card. 32GB VRAM, and lots of Cuda cores. Yours being a 360mm AIO, is gonna operate pretty quiet in gaming if that’s its intended purpose. They love to skimp these days, but it’s still a 5090 Astral. “Now you’re supposed to start drooling when you hold it 🤤” 

 

Also, I flushed my loop out! Back to clear. I may go to another color. Not that plum purple looking pink, which was supposed to be “RED” 😝 It took me 8+ gallons of distilled to flush it, and it still comes out with a very slight tint of color. I’m going to add (4) more Lian Li P28 fans to the front of the case. And, I’m done. I do want one of those EKWB 5090FE blocks though. That gets me excited!! I will say the Nvidia 5090FE is great so far. Especially for the LOW LOW price of only $2,125 after taxes 🤣 (Okay okay, seriously it’s a good card. It’s quiet, and it’s small, it runs cool. It’s very fast. Seems like they went with no fancy packaging at all. All the packaging is just basic brown/white cardboard board. That’s fine with me. The card feels like a small tank. It feels heavier than a 4090, but it’s actually lighter than one. I think it’s because it is more compressed. But, it’s stable and reliable and overclocks pretty good. So that counts for something! (Also I learned sometimes excitement can be delayed with PC parts) 
 

 

 

 

I saw your short video with flushing. I thought in my head, thinking about you... Don't go a second round with colors😀 You will never be happy and you'll start all over again. The circle will go around and around.  Stick to clear coolant. Or do as me... Go with black rubber tubes and never look back again ...... Black is trendy. Black is timeless😎

[tps3443]

6 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

I saw your short video with flushing. I thought in my head, thinking about you... Don't go a second round with colors😀 You will never be happy and you'll start all over again. The circle will go around and around.  Stick to clear coolant. Or do as me... Go with black rubber tubes and never look back again. Black is trendy. Black is timeless😎

I heard that hard tubing stays crystal clear always, if that’s the case I’m just gonna leave it clear. I might get some Koolance 702 clear. 

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I heard that hard tubing stays crystal clear always, if that’s the case I’m just gonna leave it clear. I might get some Koolance 702 clear. 

If you want color go with auto antifreeze. Then you do not need any biocides or other additive. You can choose from red, blue, green and gold. That is what I have been using since my first custom loop. It's better and a whole lot less expensive than when it comes in a branded PC coolant bottle.

[Papusan]

 

Could have done a deal if I bothered. $600 in fast profits. Shortage make people desparate. The one here on the Norwegian market place want to buy an Astral LC here home. Has to be the LC card.

 

https://www.finn.no/recommerce/forsale/item/398913646

 

Edit. Maybe I should ask for $100 extra because mine is the OC model?😁

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Could have done a deal if I bothered. $600 in profits. Shortage make people desparate. The one here want to buy an Astral LC here home. Has to be the LC card.

 

https://www.finn.no/recommerce/forsale/item/398913646

You should sell it for $1000 profit. Scalping doesn't apply when someone is actively looking for an opportunity to be taken advantage of. It will make him especially happy if you whisper dirty things in his ear while taking his money.

[Papusan]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

You should sell it for $1000 profit. Scalping doesn't apply when someone is actively looking for an opportunity to be taken advantage of. It will make him especially happy if you whisper dirty things in his ear while taking his money.

 

LOOL

 

I don't want be an scalper. I don't like it. And I don't want take advantage of stupid people. They are the reason  we see stupid high prices. As I said before... I can pay retail price but not much more. I rather wait than pay extra only to get it now. 

 

People need to stop with this. And I don't want to be a part of it.

 

You won't see me like this...

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am not sure that I will ever purchase a 5090. Maybe a used one, if ever at all. I haven't heard anything nice or good about 50-series. Too many design defects and engineering flaws for something priced as though it were perfect, and I can't identify a good reason to spend more than the already-retarded prices I paid for 3090 Kingpin and 4090 video cards. I never enjoyed them at a level consistent with the purchase price and I think I would ultimately end up disappointed with the purchase. I think Jensen is too busy enjoying the investor circle-jerk and his gigantic salary and bonuses to give a rat's butt about the people NVIDIA is screwing, or the products he is selling them.

 

As time is passing, ditto. Like I said, I'm lacking that normal razzle dazzle I have when new GPUs drop.

 

I am noticing pre-builts w/5090's are now staying in stock usually for hours if not all day. That's another sign of demand shrinking but more importantly, yanking the GPU to sell on its own is no longer outright profitable in lieu of the entire system cost.

 

Skytech's 5090 pre-built was available on BB for the last few days w/ 285k + 5090 for $4899.99 which isn't super terrible either pricing wise compared to others.

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

Not the best quality and not a youtuber, but good info from Walton. My best guess... Forget many 5090's at MSRP within it's life cycle. Lower end cards, sure you will see them at MSRP. But AI and scalpers will pick up any 5090's they will find. Export them over to China is also profitable even if prices is well above MSRP. Nvidia's "partners" around in Asia/China will for sure help with needed vram packages.

 

 

Edit....  5090@+48GB GDDR7 will be very capable graphics cards for AI workloads. Same as with older 4090@48GB cards. 

 

Thanks, AMD🤮

 

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Consumers being screwed....

 

 

This. I have talked about this several times the last two years. An awful direction for PSUs. Hardware reviewers/Tech tubers give PSUs top reviews even if the products barely offer power connectors (thats under features). Nice see editors at Tomshardware are able to see the same. Not too early! This topic should be done 1.5 years ago so PSU manufacturers could see what they are doing wrong.

 

Why not offer both? Tell you... Next level of cost savings. Aka it just follow the modern tech trend. Offer less for more. Is less more @Mr. Fox🤔

GPU compatibility dilemma as more high-end power supplies ditch 8-pin connectors in favor of new 16-pin

It seems the industry is catching on to the 16-pin standard, even at the cost of reduced compatibility with other GPUs.

 

Unless you get a 12V-2x6 to 8-pin adapter, these PSUs are incompatible with most modern-day GPUs from AMD, Intel, and even Nvidia (RTX 30 and prior), apart from a few specific variants.

 

All things considered, equipping PSUs with multiple 16-pin connectors is counterintuitive for most consumers, especially given the standard's original goal to simplify cabling. For maximum user flexibility, a PSU design should include one 12V-2x6 connector alongside multiple 8-pin connectors to accommodate high-power GPUs from either brand.

 

On 1/8/2025 at 6:47 PM, Papusan said:

Yup. You can't power up newer AMD cards with 8-pins if this is what you buy from  the new modern era ... See this fantastic design and engineering solutions by MSI @Mr. Fox

 

 MPG A1250GS that offers 1,250W of power. Branded with MSI Performance gaming. Great idea? Twin 12V-2x6 connectors but barely enough 8-pins for the board and the processor. 

 

 

[Clamibot]

On 3/21/2025 at 1:38 AM, ssj92 said:

Could someone with an SLI capable motherboard please help me out. 

 

I just found out my W790 SAGE motherboard doesn't have an SLI certificate so I cannot enable SLI on my RTX Titans. 

 

I tried extracting SLI cert from my old AW Area-51 R2 desktop motherboard, but it doesn't seem to work. So I wanted to see if a newer cert is needed (mines from 2014 X99). 

 

if you have Z690 or any modern motherboard that supports SLI, can you dump your DSDT?

 

To do so, make a clover bootloader usb stick using: cvad-mac.narod.ru - BootDiskUtility.exe

 

 

Make the following folder once the usb is done: USB Drive>CLOVER>ACPI>origin

 

Then boot from it, at the boot menu when it asks you to select OS to boot from, press F4 and it will dump your DSDT file to:

 

USB>CLOVER>ACPI>origin>DSDT.aml 

 

I want to see if a newer cert makes any diffference. I have 2 X99 certs that I tried injecting and it didn't work. 

 

OR if someone is good at DSDT editing, I can attach mine here along with the guide I am trying to follow. 

 

I messaged ASUS support but highly doubt they will send me a bios update with the SLI certificate.

 

I don't have any SLI capable motherboards, but I can offer you an alternative if you can't get SLI working. You can use Lossless Scaling instead to achieve pseudo SLI with much better scaling in the worst case. I posted some instructions on how to set this up a while back on this thread. You can even use a heterogeneous GPU setup for this and it works great!

 

On 12/2/2024 at 10:13 PM, Clamibot said:

Dual GPU is back in style my dudes!

 

I did some testing with heterogeneous multi GPU in games with an RX 6950 XT and an RTX 2080 TI, and the results are really good. Using Lossless Scaling, I used the 6950 XT as my render GPU and the 2080 TI as my framegen GPU. This is the resulting usage graph for both GPUs at ultrawide 1080p (2560x1080) at a mix of high and medium settings tuned to my liking for an optimized but still very good looking list of settings.

 

 

I'm currently at the Mission of San Juan location and my usage on the 6950 XT is 70%, while it is 41% on the 2080 TI. My raw framerate s 110 fps, interpolated to 220 fps.

 

One thing that I really like aboout this approach is the lack of microstuttering. I did not notice any microstuttering using this multi GPU setup to render a game in this manner. Unlike SLI or Crossfire, this rendering pipeline is not to split the frame and have each GPU work on a portion of it. Instead, we render the game on one GPU, then do frame interpolation, upscaling, or a combination of both using the second GPU. This bypasses any timing issues from having multiple GPUs work on the same frame, which eliminates microstuttering. We also get perfect scaling relative to the amount of processing power needed for the interpolation or upscaling as there is no previous frame dependency, only the current frame is needed for either process (plus motion vectors for interpolation, which are already provided). No more wasting processing power!

 

Basically this is SLI/Crossfire without any of the downsides, the only caveat being that you need your raw framerate to be sufficiently high (preferably 100 fps or higher) to get optimal results. Otherwise, your input latency is going to suck and will ruin the experience. I recommend this kind of setup only on ultra high refresh rate monitors where you'll still get good input latency at half the max refresh rate (mine being a 200 Hz monitor, so I have my raw framerate capped at 110 fps).

 

To get this working, install any 2 GPUs of your choice in your system. Make sure you have Windows 10 22H1 or higher installed or this process may not work. Microsoft decided to allow MsHybrid mode to work on desktops since 22H1, but you'll need to perform some registry edits to make it work:

 

1. Open up Regedit to Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}.
2. Identify the four digit subfolders that contain your desired GPUs (e.g. by the key DriverDesc inside since this contains the model name, making it really easy to identify). In my case, these happened to be 0001 fo the 6950 XT and 0003 for the 2080 TI (not sure why as I only have 2 GPUs, not 4)
3. Create a new DWORD key inside both four digit folders. Name this key: EnableMsHybrid.Set the value of the key 1 to assign it as the high performance GPU, or set it to a value of 2 to assign it as the power saving GPU.
4. Once you finish step 3, open up Graphics Settings in the Windows Settings app
5. Once you navigate to this panel, you can manually configure the performance GPU (your rendering GPU) and the power saving GPU (your frame interpolation and upsclaing GPU) per program. I think that the performance GPU is always used by default, so configuration is not required, but helps with forcing the system to behave how you want. It's more of a reassurance than anything else.
6. Make sure your monitor is plugged into the power saving GPU and launch Lossless Scaling.
7. Make sure your preferred frame gen GPU is set to the desired GPU
8. Profit! You now have super duper awesome performance from your dual GPU rig with no microstuttering! How does that feel?

This approach to dual GPU rendering in games works regardless of if you have a homogeneous (like required by SLI or Crossfire) or heterogeneous multi GPU setup. Do note that this approach only scales to 2 GPUs under normal circumstances, maybe 3 if you have an SLI/Crossfire setup being used to render your game. SLI/Crossfire will not help with Lossless Scaling as far as I'm aware, but if it does, say hello to quad GPU rendering again! The downside is that you get microstuttering again however. I prefer the heterogeneous dual GPU approach as it allows me to reuse my old hardware to increase performance and has no microstuttering.

 

[jaybee83]

On 3/21/2025 at 8:43 PM, Mr. Fox said:

And, this CPU is better than the one in the Gene. It can handle 2200 FCLK. The other 9950X won't boot at 2200. It caps out at 2175. I am going to have the check the SP rating and see how it works on an ASUS mobo that has better voltage control. That will have to wait for another day. I'll likely wait until the APEX drops and then delid it.

 

 

 

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested.

 

i was literally SHOCKED when i saw the load temps on my stock lidded 9950X3D with CB2024 and CB R23... 200W package load maxed out at a measly 76C, with average temps even lower. at first i thought i mightve messed something up with the fan settings in bios after upgrading, but nope...it is just THAT much colder, absolutely insane. my 7950X easily broke 90C, sometimes creeping up to 94-95C depending on the ambient temps.

delidding and swapping out the IHS should result in craaaaazy OC headroom, both for CPU and RAM 🙂 

[electrosoft]

On 3/21/2025 at 3:43 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Well, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Montech AIR 903 MAX for the work PC build. It's not awesome like the Antec C8 or Lian Li Dynamix XL EVO, but for the price it's great. Very affordable. The 140mm fans (four included) are pushing more air than I imagined they would and run very quiet. The Montech Metal 120 fans I used to replace the EK AIO fans are also insane. They seem very well made, have solid performance specs. The only thing they lack is a unified design that connects them together.  But, the RGB and fan cable are combined into one (very nice) and only split apart at the connector ends.

Here are some pics. The one thing that Montech didn't do right is the same stupid issue most cases have. The space above and behind the motherboard needs to be greater. 

 

Above the motherboard there it only has enough room for thin radiators and push fans. No way you can install fat radiators and push/pull. That sucks, but I understand "normal" is their target market and gamerboy AIOs is what 99% of their customers are going to be installing. So, since I am using a gamerboy AIO for this application it's OK. It would NOT be OK with a custom loop. It feels like the entire PC industry is deliberately leaving overclocking enthusiasts up the creek with no paddle with fewer and fewer options to build something we can be proud of.

 

Behind the motherboard tray it would be nice to have an extra 15-30mm of space. I got the cable management done without a bulge in the side panel, but man it sure was tight. The gamerboys get all hot and bothered by the case taking up too much space.

 

 

I think (maybe) I have figured things out with the Gigabyte B850 board. Definitely seems like a firmware issue with voltage control. Setting manual voltage does not seem to function correctly and pushes way too much voltage to the CPU no matter what I set it for and regardless of the LLC settings. Even if I use maximum vdroop it goes up to 1.400V in Cinebench. I have to use "Auto" with a negative offset to pull it back down to a reasonable voltage level.  At any rate, Cinebench scores are right up there with the Gene and Carbon at less than half the cost. And, I can use all three PCIe x16 slots without the GPU getting emasculated to PCIe 5.0 x8.

 

And, this CPU is better than the one in the Gene. It can handle 2200 FCLK. The other 9950X won't boot at 2200. It caps out at 2175. I am going to have the check the SP rating and see how it works on an ASUS mobo that has better voltage control. That will have to wait for another day. I'll likely wait until the APEX drops and then delid it.

 

 

 

See if the 2200 can handle a 90 min TM5 and an hour of Karhu at least. Worst case, fun benches. Best case, stable D2D at 2200!

 

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested.

 

i was literally SHOCKED when i saw the load temps on my stock lidded 9950X3D with CB2024 and CB R23... 200W package load maxed out at a measly 76C, with average temps even lower. at first i thought i mightve messed something up with the fan settings in bios after upgrading, but nope...it is just THAT much colder, absolutely insane. my 7950X easily broke 90C, sometimes creeping up to 94-95C depending on the ambient temps.

delidding and swapping out the IHS should result in craaaaazy OC headroom, both for CPU and RAM 🙂 

 

Agreed, 9000 series runs cooler and better than 7000. I had a 9950x3d ready for checkout on BB, but just couldn't justify it but 9800X3D vs my old 7800X3D it is much better across the board in every aspect. I can just imagine how much better the 9950X3D would be vs my old 7950X3D and the 7950X3D was known for running cooler and better than the 7950X.

 

When you lop off its head, results are gonna be quite nice! Looking forward to some memory/cpu comparison data of the 7950X vs your 9950X3D.

 

 

[ssj92]

6 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

I don't have any SLI capable motherboards, but I can offer you an alternative if you can't get SLI working. You can use Lossless Scaling instead to achieve pseudo SLI with much better scaling in the worst case. I posted some instructions on how to set this up a while back on this thread. You can even use a heterogeneous GPU setup for this and it works great!

 

 

This is cool, I'll give it a shot later, but I did find asus Z390 and Z490 SLI certs online, so I am going to try those. 

 

Don't think I can bench 2x rtx titan in 3dmark even using that app 

[tps3443]

RTX 5090’s are under-volting pretty well. Essentially, it’s up to silicon quality. You can’t really crash so easily with this generation. The card will run its max clock speed for that selected voltage and the GPU seems to have an idea of what that clock speed max for that set voltage should be, or at least on the newest drivers it seems like it knows.

 

Definitely can bring power way down for a GPU that’s overkill in practically every game right out of the box (Especially 4K+200% upscaled to 8K. This GPU is a MONSTER for MS Flight Sim 8K, and the RTX4090 could already get it done at 50-60fps)
 

So far, I have set a 2.9Ghz @0.900MV in MSI Afterburner and I shaved off 110 watts of power, and about 10c in temps. These cards use way more voltage stock than they really need. You’ve got to think we idle on the desktop around 0.800mv. So, we can almost apply the full stock boost clock speed of the RTX 5090 FE with nearly the idle voltage. 
 

Steel Nomad scored 14,500

[Reciever]

Just bought myself a Sapphire 280X 3GB Tri-X should be here next weekend :) 

 

[Clamibot]

3 hours ago, ssj92 said:

This is cool, I'll give it a shot later, but I did find asus Z390 and Z490 SLI certs online, so I am going to try those. 

 

Don't think I can bench 2x rtx titan in 3dmark even using that app 

 

Yeah, the guide I wrote is more for maxing out gaming performance than benchmarking. It'll be really useful when I eventually get a 480 Hz monitor. I really like how these new ultra high refresh rate monitors look so lifelike in terms of motion clarity.

 

One of my good buddies has joked on multiple occasions that Icarus keeps flying higher (referring to me) whenever I get a new even higher refresh rate monitor.

[Mr. Fox]

17 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested.

My impression is this is better than average. I haven't finished tuning for the PBO profile, but it is definitely WAY BETTER than the CPU installed in the Gene. Once I delid this and go bare die in an Apex mobo I think it will be even better. I think I am pushing the limits of this EK CR360 Dark AIO. See PBO settings below. I will see if I can take the Curve Optimizer higher than 25/20 sometime tomorrow. Right now it is not far off from my manual overclock with fixed core ratios.

14 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

See if the 2200 can handle a 90 min TM5 and an hour of Karhu at least. Worst case, fun benches. Best case, stable D2D at 2200!

I am still working on trying to figure out the B850 Gigabyte AORUS Elite board. The behavior is very different than the Gene or the Cabron. I am starting to figure it out, but haven't gotten as far as memory fine tuning yet. This is just the XMP profile with tREFI maxed out and tFAW set to the bottom value available in the BIOS (20). I bumped the voltage from 1.450V to 1.550V.

 

Even though it's got some degree of weirdness to it, I am actually more impressed with this B850 AORUS board than I expected to be. I was not very happy initially, but it was because I was struggling with getting things tuned because of the very different behavior/response to BIOS settings compared to what works on the Gene and the Cabron before it.

 

[tps3443]

RTX 5090FE 4K Gaming with an undervolt inside of a closed case. 
 

GPU Core= 60-62c

Memory Max= 72c 

 

“Imagine adding a rear Fujipoly full coverage thermal pad thermal pad” 🤯🤯🤯 I’m going to add one. I have a brand new 3mm Ultra soft Fujipoly thermal pad that I was going to use on my 4090 once water blocked. But I think I’ll install this on my 5090FE now. 😁It already runs very cool though. 
 

 

[jaybee83]

19 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

See if the 2200 can handle a 90 min TM5 and an hour of Karhu at least. Worst case, fun benches. Best case, stable D2D at 2200!

 

Agreed, 9000 series runs cooler and better than 7000. I had a 9950x3d ready for checkout on BB, but just couldn't justify it but 9800X3D vs my old 7800X3D it is much better across the board in every aspect. I can just imagine how much better the 9950X3D would be vs my old 7950X3D and the 7950X3D was known for running cooler and better than the 7950X.

 

When you lop off its head, results are gonna be quite nice! Looking forward to some memory/cpu comparison data of the 7950X vs your 9950X3D.

 

yup, TM5 is my go-to to dial in D2D FCLK overclocks, works like a charm with the anta777 absolut config 🙂 same goes for D2D RAM OC including subtimings.

 

16 hours ago, tps3443 said:

RTX 5090’s are under-volting pretty well. Essentially, it’s up to silicon quality. You can’t really crash so easily with this generation. The card will run its max clock speed for that selected voltage and the GPU seems to have an idea of what that clock speed max for that set voltage should be, or at least on the newest drivers it seems like it knows.

 

Definitely can bring power way down for a GPU that’s overkill in practically every game right out of the box (Especially 4K+200% upscaled to 8K. This GPU is a MONSTER for MS Flight Sim 8K, and the RTX4090 could already get it done at 50-60fps)
 

So far, I have set a 2.9Ghz @0.900MV in MSI Afterburner and I shaved off 110 watts of power, and about 10c in temps. These cards use way more voltage stock than they really need. You’ve got to think we idle on the desktop around 0.800mv. So, we can almost apply the full stock boost clock speed of the RTX 5090 FE with nearly the idle voltage. 
 

Steel Nomad scored 14,500

 

noice. out of curiosity, what would be ur max frequency at the minimum 800mV core voltage?

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

yup, TM5 is my go-to to dial in D2D FCLK overclocks, works like a charm with the anta777 absolut config 🙂 same goes for D2D RAM OC including subtimings.

 

 

noice. out of curiosity, what would be ur max frequency at the minimum 800mV core voltage?

800mv will boost 2.5Ghz+. We can essentially use idle voltage on a RTX 5090 FE for 4K gaming and maintain stock performance. It is pretty miraculous. Silicon seems to be very good for all 5090’s. And they don’t need all that much voltage. My current 0.895mv and 2.7Ghz is 5% faster than stock. I have grown to love this GPU the more I own it. Hopefully @Papusan will get that too. I’ll bet he will. 
 

Anyways, any good deals on 5090’s lately in your neck of the woods?

 

I wish Nvidia wasn’t so stingy with the FE models. During GTC 2025 Nvidia had a “Nvidia Food Truck” parked outside of the event. And GTC ticket holders could buy from this truck. And this so called “Food Truck” was literally selling 5080/5090FE models for MSRP $999/$1999. Apparently the GTC tickets cost $1,125 USD for just 1 day at the event though lol. (Oh, and they had a limited number of these GPU’s I think #80  total 5090 FE’s, and probably double that in 5080 FE’s)

 

[electrosoft]

While clearing out and organizing emails I forgot I signed up for B&H notifications/waitlist on launch day for the Astral 5090 at $2799 (now $3359) and the $1999 (now $2399) Gigabyte 5090, so I have those floating out there waiting to pop....

 

MSI wasn't available launch day, so I had never signed up for the Suprim or Suprim liquid lol.

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

 

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I have grown to love this GPU the more I own it. Hopefully @Papusan will get that too. I’ll bet he will. 

 

Hmmm. With time when I have forgot what I paid😁 Or maybe when I see the prices for 6090🤩

 

But der8auer ain't impressed with what Nvidia launched this time.... You really need to see the whole video.