*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Nvflashk from Kefi works just fine on 50 series but that was just re-flashing my original bios back on. I have an Astral bios I may give it a try. I just hate to brick the card over being dumb. I do not see why it would not work. And worst-case scenario I would have to flash blindly flash back to my original. "I think so anyways" It is so nerve racking doing this though. 
 

If you flash your 5080FE to Astral let me know if it works. 😁

 

Well, this answers the question 😞

 

Strike 2....

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

6 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Well, this answers the question 😞

 

Strike 2....

 

I'm gladder than ever that I didn't allow my hobby to drive a reward of overpriced bad behavior. The Green Goblin is long overdue for getting a red-hot ice pick to the gonads.

[tps3443]

3 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Well, this answers the question 😞

 

Strike 2....

 

 

 

Well, that does not necessarily mean other 5080/5090 bios cannot work on the FE though, I do not think anyone has tried to flash theirs. Flashing the 5080FE would be beneficial though. You can pick-up 90 more wattsies.

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Well, that does not necessarily mean other 5080/5090 bios cannot work on the FE though, I do not think anyone has tried to flash theirs. Flashing the 5080FE would be beneficial though. You can pick-up 90 more wattsies.

That will be helpful for the fragile petite power cables as well. Those slim cables are just so darned cute... especially the RGB type. If you choose red you won't even notice when the fire starts.

[electrosoft]

1 minute ago, tps3443 said:

Well, that does not necessarily mean other 5080/5090 bios cannot work on the FE though, I do not think anyone has tried to flash theirs. Flashing the 5080FE would be beneficial though. You can pick-up 90 more wattsies.

 

That's exactly what it means @tps3443.....

 

Only an FE vBIOS variant will work on an FE not an AIB. 😞

 

I thought I remember reading that before with FE cards that's why I was asking because I was thinking of flashing either the Astral or Zotac vBIOS if possible on the 5080 FE.

 

Go ahead and flash the Astral and see how it turns out.

 

5090 FE really is just not designed for a proper D2D OC and/or vBIOS optimizing from other AIBs. Irks me a bit with the 5080 FE to be honest.

 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I'm gladder than ever that I didn't allow my hobby to drive a reward of overpriced bad behavior. The Green Goblin is long overdue for getting a red-hot ice pick to the gonads.

 

Best bet is to grab the cheapest non-FE if you want to vBIOS hop, slap a block on it and get to work.

 

 

[tps3443]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That will be helpful for the fragile petite power cables as well. Those slim cables are just so darned cute... especially the RGB type. If you choose red you won't even notice when the fire starts.

If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park. 
 

XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables. 
 

[jaybee83]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Yeah I'm at +3000 / +325 for pure stability without adding any PL/V fans on auto which is how I would run it D2D gaming/rendering. Stress testing, I started at +400 and that quickly dropped to +350 and extended testing dialed it to +325.

 

Next will be retesting with PL/V limits pushed to max. (You know, the "hard stuff" 🤣)

 

Might need to dial in a "Winter Mode" and "Summer Mode" at this rate of hades. 🤣

 

lol nah i couldnt be bothered with such seasonal profiles 😄 i just want a stable D2D OC once all the initial tuning is done 🙂 did the same, started with a quick n dirty +300/+350/+400, noticed 400 onwards was unstable so now backing down bit by bit. currently at +360 and stable thus far.

what were ur last stress tests that showed instability on your side?

 

did a bunch of transcoding yesterday without issues. fun fact: on the 4090 i couldnt do transcoding and gaming at the same time, gpu clocks would be locked to idle or slightly above that (dont as me why, no idea to this day!) and system RAM usage would max out. now with my new SSD setup (PCIe 4.0 vs. SATA before for media storage) and the 5090 system RAM usage is only at 50% and gpu clocks are unaffected. sooooo, gaming session while transcoding in the background, thats the stuff! 🙂 

 

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Nvflashk from Kefi works just fine on 50 series but that was just re-flashing my original bios back on. I have an Astral bios I may give it a try. I just hate to brick the card over being dumb. I do not see why it would not work. And worst-case scenario I would have to flash blindly flash back to my original. "I think so anyways" It is so nerve racking doing this though. 
 

If you flash your 5080FE to Astral let me know if it works. 😁

 

yup i feel ya. wanna enjoy the card a bit before doing too much non-stock tinkering on it haha 😄 besides, as of yet not really worth it without an XOC vbios. as u mentioned, the only vbios worth trying atm would be the Astral one, ive seen some user reports with up to 5% perf. boost going from stock vbios oced to stock astral vbios. seemed a bit sus to me, esp. since it was a lower-tier card (dont rembember, i think it was a palit? or a tuf?), but worth investigating.

 

in any case, thats what a dual vbios card is for, no risk of bricking 🙂 one of the reasons why an FE would never end up in my shopping basket.

 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park. 
 

XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables. 
 

 

even with a 1kW XOC vbios the card would be voltage limited far before there would be any risk of it going up in flames (naturally, assuming psu/cable is up to snuff lol).

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park. 
 

XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables. 
 

 

It really comes down to having the ability to extract as much performance as possible out of your 5090 by being able to flash vBIOS from other makes and models without being restricted by Nvidia. I mean, it is their in house model being offered so I get it, but they've done this before.

 

No way I'd run 1k as a daily, but fun benchies? Yes please. Beefy enough heatsink to handle it? Double yes please.

 

As @jaybee83 pointed out, lack of dual bios on the FE is a negative too just in case.....

 

The blessings of the FE HSF design is also its curse. Absolutely great for SFF, compact to fit most cases and quite beautiful and stunning in person (I also thought the 4090 FE was an absolutely stunning slab of industrial metal). It's curse is limited thermals resulting in much higher temps overall at similar settings for both memory and GPU temps. In spec? Sure, but it limits you. You can't out Physics, er, Physics...

 

For me, a monster heatsink just lets me run a full tilt D2D OC and not have to worry about extreme temps. If I could keep my room cooler, that would mean even better temps.... that screen shot of a few hours of WoW where my room was heading closer to 90 than 80 still were great temps in the sauna box. If I could keep my room at 70f? Mmmmmmm. Maybe I should get a window AC unit....

 

12 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

lol nah i couldnt be bothered with such seasonal profiles 😄 i just want a stable D2D OC once all the initial tuning is done 🙂 did the same, started with a quick n dirty +300/+350/+400, noticed 400 onwards was unstable so now backing down bit by bit. currently at +360 and stable thus far.

what were ur last stress tests that showed instability on your side?

 

did a bunch of transcoding yesterday without issues. fun fact: on the 4090 i couldnt do transcoding and gaming at the same time, gpu clocks would be locked to idle or slightly above that (dont as me why, no idea to this day!) and system RAM usage would max out. now with my new SSD setup (PCIe 4.0 vs. SATA before for media storage) and the 5090 system RAM usage is only at 50% and gpu clocks are unaffected. sooooo, gaming session while transcoding in the background, thats the stuff! 🙂 

 

 

yup i feel ya. wanna enjoy the card a bit before doing too much non-stock tinkering on it haha 😄 besides, as of yet not really worth it without an XOC vbios. as u mentioned, the only vbios worth trying atm would be the Astral one, ive seen some user reports with up to 5% perf. boost going from stock vbios oced to stock astral vbios. seemed a bit sus to me, esp. since it was a lower-tier card (dont rembember, i think it was a palit? or a tuf?), but worth investigating.

 

in any case, thats what a dual vbios card is for, no risk of bricking 🙂 one of the reasons why an FE would never end up in my shopping basket.

 

 

even with a 1kW XOC vbios the card would be voltage limited far before there would be any risk of it going up in flames (naturally, assuming psu/cable is up to snuff lol).

 

For me, it will always be 3Dmark TSE GT2 that for some reason looped will eventually get my GPU. I use Heaven when tuning on the fly to see when I start to artifact but I've found recently on 4090 and especially 5090 I don't really artifact. I just freeze/blank and sometimes recover (recover almost all the time with 576.02). I used to use Kombustor (aka Furmark'ish) but not recently. Then I throw games at it but only the games I play. My general rule is, "I'm stable till the next new game."

 

For WoW, I use that high GPU location, and in previous Xpacs back to Shadowlands, I used Ardenweald which just brutalized my GPUs and hit so hard. I need to revisit that. I did also use Wukong this last time. Fallout 76 can't tax anything lol and it ran fine up to +400 / +3000 at max settings to give you an idea.

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5090 is just a beast. It really is. I'm pretty much locked into a +325/+3000 D2D now and playing WoW earlier with the wife and that extra bit of ooomph does help shore up the lows a bit more. Since coil wine on this card is so good, I've abandoned 140fps frame lock and now keep it at a proper +238fps for my 240hz OLED display. There's pockets when playing, especially delves, where it is so silky smooth....

 

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Again, locked down BIOS controls and no dual bios switch? Hmmmm....

 

For $2k though, like @tps3443, I'd rock it six ways to sundown all day everyday.... 🤣

 

 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

33 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

It really comes down to having the ability to extract as much performance as possible out of your 5090 by being able to flash vBIOS from other makes and models without being restricted by Nvidia. I mean, it is their in house model being offered so I get it, but they've done this before.

 

No way I'd run 1k as a daily, but fun benchies? Yes please. Beefy enough heatsink to handle it? Double yes please.

 

As @jaybee83 pointed out, lack of dual bios on the FE is a negative too just in case.....

 

The blessings of the FE HSF design is also its curse. Absolutely great for SFF, compact to fit most cases and quite beautiful and stunning in person (I also thought the 4090 FE was an absolutely stunning slab of industrial metal). It's curse is limited thermals resulting in much higher temps overall at similar settings for both memory and GPU temps. In spec? Sure, but it limits you. You can't out Physics, er, Physics...

 

For me, a monster heatsink just lets me run a full tilt D2D OC and not have to worry about extreme temps. If I could keep my room cooler, that would mean even better temps.... that screen shot of a few hours of WoW where my room was heading closer to 90 than 80 still were great temps in the sauna box. If I could keep my room at 70f? Mmmmmmm. Maybe I should get a window AC unit....

 

For me, it will always be 3Dmark TSE GT2 that for some reason looped will eventually get my GPU. I use Heaven when tuning on the fly to see when I start to artifact but I've found recently on 4090 and especially 5090 I don't really artifact. I just freeze/blank and sometimes recover (recover almost all the time with 576.02). I used to use Kombustor (aka Furmark'ish) but not recently. Then I throw games at it but only the games I play. My general rule is, "I'm stable till the next new game."

 

For WoW, I use that high GPU location, and in previous Xpacs back to Shadowlands, I used Ardenweald which just brutalized my GPUs and hit so hard. I need to revisit that. I did also use Wukong this last time. Fallout 76 can't tax anything lol and it ran fine up to +400 / +3000 at max settings to give you an idea.

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5090 is just a beast. It really is. I'm pretty much locked into a +325/+3000 D2D now and playing WoW earlier with the wife and that extra bit of ooomph does help shore up the lows a bit more. Since coil wine on this card is so good, I've abandoned 140fps frame lock and now keep it at a proper +238fps for my 240hz OLED display. There's pockets when playing, especially delves, where it is so silky smooth....

 

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Again, locked down BIOS controls and no dual bios switch? Hmmmm....

 

For $2k though, like @tps3443, I'd rock it six ways to sundown all day everyday.... 🤣

 

some very interesting points u made here, sir!

 

first up, ill give TSE GT2 looped a go, curious to see what happens 😄 will report back. and yes, i follow the same logic, its stable until the next game / application 😄 

 

1kW vbios daily, you say? thats what i did with my 4090 for....i dunno, close to two years? flashed it right when it came out, never looked back 😄 as mentioned, the locked voltage helps keep things in check 🙂 although i DO expected the 5090 to probably max out even a 1kW vbios in some cases LOL with the 4090 i "only" went up to like 750-800W in some usage scenarios. BUT, cooling on the 5090 is even beefier, so im catiously optmistic in this regard. nevertheless, its all talk until we actually get to stretch out gpu legs, power limit wise...

 

the recovery point u bring up is VERY interesting. i am currently scratching my head a bit as to why the 5090 cannot recover from an unstable OC. the 4090 did so very competently, but with the 5090 thus far i only get a system freeze that i need to manually reset. otherwise no dice. u say this is not the case with 576.02? might be driver related then... i might give 576.15 a go, now that the temp sensor issue seems to be fixed.

 

5090 is a beast indeed. and i can only repeat myself: i am astounded at how quiet my battlestation is under full load with the 9950X3D + 5090, never thought this was possible...

admittedly, havent oced the CPU yet, but its also still full stock, not delidded yet 😄 still lots to do!

[electrosoft]

We found it! 5090 99% Utilization in WoW even overclocked!

 

Oribos, my old friend (Shadowlands) to the rescue! The former stomping ground of GPU slaying rises up once more. 🙂

 

This will be my new test spot for GPUs in WoW from this point on. If it can bring a 5090 OC'd to its knees (well, I mean 210fps but still), can't wait to see how the 5080 FE does....

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

some very interesting points u made here, sir!

 

first up, ill give TSE GT2 looped a go, curious to see what happens 😄 will report back. and yes, i follow the same logic, its stable until the next game / application 😄 

 

1kW vbios daily, you say? thats what i did with my 4090 for....i dunno, close to two years? flashed it right when it came out, never looked back 😄 as mentioned, the locked voltage helps keep things in check 🙂 although i DO expected the 5090 to probably max out even a 1kW vbios in some cases LOL with the 4090 i "only" went up to like 750-800W in some usage scenarios. BUT, cooling on the 5090 is even beefier, so im catiously optmistic in this regard. nevertheless, its all talk until we actually get to stretch out gpu legs, power limit wise...

 

the recovery point u bring up is VERY interesting. i am currently scratching my head a bit as to why the 5090 cannot recover from an unstable OC. the 4090 did so very competently, but with the 5090 thus far i only get a system freeze that i need to manually reset. otherwise no dice. u say this is not the case with 576.02? might be driver related then... i might give 576.15 a go, now that the temp sensor issue seems to be fixed.

 

5090 is a beast indeed. and i can only repeat myself: i am astounded at how quiet my battlestation is under full load with the 9950X3D + 5090, never thought this was possible...

admittedly, havent oced the CPU yet, but its also still full stock, not delidded yet 😄 still lots to do!

 

TSE GT2 has been the bane of my existence for quite some time. It can also wake up a card and make it sing a bit especially TS GT2 which can hit hard too.

 

lol, that's true on the locked voltages. Suprim has the beef too.

 

Yep, every crash I've had testing OC's with 576.02 (I see 576.15 is out now),  resulted in a freeze, black screen, typical beep of disconnect/connect and then the image came back to life enough to either actually continue on or enough to just close it out. No manual reboots/resets.

 

9000 series runs better than 7000 + the WW2 era tank heatsinks on these things = quieter running and good temps even OC'd. Like I said in a previous post, I've actually pushed my fps up to 238fps locked now because the coil whine is so good on this Astral.

[jaybee83]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

We found it! 5090 99% Utilization in WoW even overclocked!

 

Oribos, my old friend (Shadowlands) to the rescue! The former stomping ground of GPU slaying rises up once more. 🙂

 

This will be my new test spot for GPUs in WoW from this point on. If it can bring a 5090 OC'd to its knees (well, I mean 210fps but still), can't wait to see how the 5080 FE does....

 

 

 

 

HA! A SINGLE SPOT WITH 99% GPU AND BELOW 240 FPS!  6090 JUSTIFIED! 🤣

 

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

TSE GT2 has been the bane of my existence for quite some time. It can also wake up a card and make it sing a bit especially TS GT2 which can hit hard too.

 

lol, that's true on the locked voltages. Suprim has the beef too.

 

Yep, every crash I've had testing OC's with 576.02 (I see 576.15 is out now),  resulted in a freeze, black screen, typical beep of disconnect/connect and then the image came back to life enough to either actually continue on or enough to just close it out. No manual reboots/resets.

 

9000 series runs better than 7000 + the WW2 era tank heatsinks on these things = quieter running and good temps even OC'd. Like I said in a previous post, I've actually pushed my fps up to 238fps locked now because the coil whine is so good on this Astral.

 

"the bane of my existence" had to rofl at that 😄 as i said, VERY curious to see the results with my current oc, will keep u in the loop.

 

for me its been hard freezes requiring a reboot every. single. time. not even one recovery thus far! very annoying!

 

while playing Deliver Us Mars yesterday i marveled at the clocks, i was basically running the same 3030-3100 Mhz core clocks as with the 4090 before, only now with 33% more cores and GDDR7 pushed to 34 Gbps....this is just pure, unadultared fun! 😄 

 

edit: hate to burst ur TSE bubble, but i just passed a 1h loop of it at my +360 core oc 😄 all good!