Mr. Fox Posted 20 hours ago Author Share Posted 20 hours ago 2 minutes ago, johnksss said: I'm still tripping out on the voltage. it's 1.110V! So a shunt mod would actually do this card justice or an unlocked power mod PNY vbios. I had not seen any other card with a voltage that high before. That's excellent. If it's 1.100V without even using the 100mV slider that is very good news, especially if using it takes it up to 1.200V. The 4090 Suprim and Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC are both 1.100V max with the extra 100mV, which isn't enough. 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Banshee // X670E Gene | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8000 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 (Rhinoceros) Spectre // B850 AORUS Elite | 9950X | AORUS 9070 XT | 32GB DDR5-8000 | RM1200x SHIFT | EK Nucleus CR360 || AIR 903 MAX (Rattlesnake) Half-Breed // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: I don't mind a game having options available to use a controller. I know some people prefer that and I'm okay with whatever floats their boat. Gaming should be done in whatever matter the gamer wants it. What I don't like is having no controller connected and being forced to work my way through configuration menus that assume I have a controller attached even though I don't, and all of the on screen action prompts show me controller buttons to press even though no controller is attached. There are a lot of console games ported to PC that don't have that kind of a shortcoming. That's awesome brother @johnksss I'm super glad to hear that you're pleased. PNY has my attention and I expect to see great things develop with their brand with Vince involved. If given the chance I'm pretty sure he's going to take them to greatness like he did with EVGA IIRC there are options for that in the settings. 1 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Red Devil 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | Intel X710 DAC @ 10Gbps | 550w + 900w (GPU) | Win10 UNRAID | 10850K @ 4.8Ghz | 16GB DDR4 4000Mhz | P1000 | 9300i-16P | Intel X520 DAC @ 20Gbps | 48TB HDD's | EVGA 1300w | Unraid GameStream | E5-2667v3 16c/32t | 64GB DDR4 2133Mhz | RTX 3090Ti | 3x 512GB | 925w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 HomeLab (x2) | E5-2650v4 24c/48t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2TB NVME / 2x1TB NVME / 2x2TB HDD | Proxmox Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: That's excellent. If it's 1.100V without even using the 100mV slider that is very good news, especially if using it takes it up to 1.200V. The 4090 Suprim and Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC are both 1.100V max with the extra 100mV, which isn't enough. Without the slider, its 1.085V and with slider, it's 1.110V And my PCIE slot voltage and 16-Pin voltage go no lower than 12.1. While my other card dipped in the 11.8 to 11.9 range. Please be a good card.😂 2 2 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, johnksss said: I'm still tripping out on the voltage. it's 1.110V! So a shunt mod would actually do this card justice or an unlocked power mod PNY vbios. I had not seen any other card with a voltage that high before. That’s really good! Which card is this? I would absolutely shunt the card. I went with the 1.5 Ohm 3 watt resistor for my FE from mouser. The stock FE has a single 1 ohm resistor, so stacking 1.5 ohm on top will give me 1,050 watts not counting the PCIe slot power. Bitspower may or may not be sending me a GPU block for testing. Fingers crossed.🤞 I’ve been bugging them to death so we’ll see what happens. The 5090 even shunted is going to chow down 900+ watts even with lower voltages. These cards are throttling hard though man. The biggest issue is the internal clock that is actually running. The cards are reflecting a higher clock speed externally, but it’s really running much slower than that effectively. It’s like a rubber band effect to prevent crashing due to power limits. So shunting will eliminate this entirely! 1 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 6 minutes ago, tps3443 said: That’s really good! Which card is this? I would absolutely shunt the card. I went with the 1.5 Ohm 3 watt resistor for my FE from mouser. The stock FE has a single 1 ohm resistor, so stacking 1.5 ohm on top will give me 1,050 watts not counting the PCIe slot power. Bitspower may or may not be sending me a GPU block for testing. Fingers crossed.🤞 I’ve been bugging them to death so we’ll see what happens. The 5090 even shunted is going to chow down 900+ watts even with lower voltages. These cards are throttling hard though man. The biggest issue is the internal clock that is actually running. The cards are reflecting a higher clock speed externally, but it’s really running much slower than that effectively. It’s like a rubber band effect to prevent crashing due to power limits. So shunting will eliminate this entirely! Before I can get to shutting it it has to be a good card to work with. And right now it's hard to say as at stock it's pulling 630W 1 1 1 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 4 minutes ago, johnksss said: Before I can get to shutting it it has to be a good card to work with. And right now it's hard to say as at stock it's pulling 630W Well, I’d look at undervolting to give you an idea. It could be pulling more just due to a higher default voltage curve and that’s making it seem like it’s using much more power. Is this a PNY RGB OC model? What was wrong with the Trio you got? 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 9 hours ago, tps3443 said: Well, I’d look at undervolting to give you an idea. It could be pulling more just due to a higher default voltage curve and that’s making it seem like it’s using much more power. Is this a PNY RGB OC model? What was wrong with the Trio you got? That's what im trying to do right now, but voltage seems to be all over the place... Edit: It's the the Epic RGB OC model. And the Gaming trio someone who could not get a card bought it off me. 2 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago I can’t believe we have an Oblivion remastered in 2025 on PC it has RT/FG/DLSS support lol! Just came out today on game pass. I remember struggling to run this one smoothly at 20-30fps with my GeForce 6600GT. I was running 1280x1024. I ended up beating Oblivion on a ATI X850 Pro that was flashed to an X850XT bios via floppy disc lol. 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 3 hours ago, johnksss said: Without the slider, its 1.085V and with slider, it's 1.110V And my PCIE slot voltage and 16-Pin voltage go no lower than 12.1. While my other card dipped in the 11.8 to 11.9 range. Please be a good card.😂 Hoping it's a banger @johnksss, but then again with your past work on so-so/average hardware..... 2 hours ago, tps3443 said: That’s really good! Which card is this? I would absolutely shunt the card. I went with the 1.5 Ohm 3 watt resistor for my FE from mouser. The stock FE has a single 1 ohm resistor, so stacking 1.5 ohm on top will give me 1,050 watts not counting the PCIe slot power. Bitspower may or may not be sending me a GPU block for testing. Fingers crossed.🤞 I’ve been bugging them to death so we’ll see what happens. The 5090 even shunted is going to chow down 900+ watts even with lower voltages. These cards are throttling hard though man. The biggest issue is the internal clock that is actually running. The cards are reflecting a higher clock speed externally, but it’s really running much slower than that effectively. It’s like a rubber band effect to prevent crashing due to power limits. So shunting will eliminate this entirely! I knew your Founders stood no chance of staying in its pristine condition! 🤣 Like I said many days ago when you were just talking about adding pads or something along those lines.... "and it starts." 😁 Definitely can't wait to see it shunt modded and blocked bro! 3 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 12 hours ago, tps3443 said: I haven’t seen any issues with the latest drivers. I use my PC for 8 hours a day a least. I’m not sure what the deal is. Latest driver seems fine, it reduced idle clocks even further down to 22Mhz from 180Mhz. I’m not really checking any fps differences in games, maybe I should I suppose. I saw a slight improvement in Steel Nomad. Card can still reach max 1075mv. Temps sensor seems to work okay as well. I have never experienced black screens, if I add like +475 you will get a black screen from a crash. But other than that the drivers seem perfectly fine. https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5548902 welp thats the sucky thing, it can get you out of nowhere, even if u had no issues beforehand whatsoever. im happily chugging along on 572.83 while others are crash n burning on it 😄 shouldnt be this way...this is not the way 11 hours ago, tps3443 said: My last driver 572.83 definitely needed a hard reset to recover from. really sounds more and more like its driver-related then. was the hard reset overclocking related? 11 hours ago, johnksss said: Thank you @Mr. Fox ! Package arrived safe and sound and it up and running like a champ! Okay, so i ended up selling my Gaming Trio 5090 to one of my customers and grabbed this PNY Epic from Microcenter a little while ago. And I must say i was quite surprised at it's stock bios settings. 11 hours ago, johnksss said: I'm still tripping out on the voltage. it's 1.110V! So a shunt mod would actually do this card justice or an unlocked power mod PNY vbios. I had not seen any other card with a voltage that high before. 9 hours ago, johnksss said: Before I can get to shutting it it has to be a good card to work with. And right now it's hard to say as at stock it's pulling 630W 9 hours ago, johnksss said: That's what im trying to do right now, but voltage seems to be all over the place... duuuuude, that card looks crazy! mine only does 1.01V at stock with clocks around 2825 Mhz, with voltage slider maxed it goes up to 1.025V 😄 those voltages are insane! ive only seen maybe 1-2 other cards that can break through 1.1V, u definitely have a special one there. 3000+ Mhz at stock, crazy... and yes ive noticed the same, voltages are all over the place, heavily depending on what ure running and even fluctuate wildly during sessions / bench runs. thats even the case if the power limit hasnt even been reached yet. not sure whats going on, hope this is smth that can be rectified with drivers / vbios updates.... overall, its total chaos when it comes to clocks and voltages, every card is so different among 5090s, both in wattage/clocks/voltage, way more variance than with the 4090. those 630W, are those transient spikes or peak load? i might have to give your vbios a go, pls share with the class! 😄 keep us in the loop on your findings, highly interested 🙂 1 1 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: Hoping it's a banger @johnksss, but then again with your past work on so-so/average hardware..... I knew your Founders stood no chance of staying in its pristine condition! 🤣 Like I said many days ago when you were just talking about adding pads or something along those lines.... "and it starts." 😁 Definitely can't wait to see it shunt modded and blocked bro! I really wanted my whole system to be watercooled when I was building this rig and I had kinda prepped with the 4090. We just don’t have any blocks yet for FE models. So, I had already ordered my Fujipoly fullcover rear thermal pad (Originally for the 4090 never used it) but now I’ve ordered some shunts, but I can’t add any of these items until I get a waterblock. FE blocks are taking a little longer than the other models, but they’re coming. I’m really curious what the Bitspower block will even look like. 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 hours ago, johnksss said: Without the slider, its 1.085V and with slider, it's 1.110V And my PCIE slot voltage and 16-Pin voltage go no lower than 12.1. While my other card dipped in the 11.8 to 11.9 range. Please be a good card.😂 Banger of a card @johnksss especially if you block it. My Astral is in the neighborhood but your clocks are the chef's kiss! Mine is clocking very nicely, so I know yours is going to go to that next level especially if you block it and shunt/XOC it. (FYI, this is my first time punching either boost lock or voltage slider) Stock boost lock: voltage slider in "fun times" mode: 20 minutes ago, tps3443 said: I really wanted my whole system to be watercooled when I was building this rig and I had kinda prepped with the 4090. We just don’t have any blocks yet for FE models. So, I had already ordered my Fujipoly fullcover rear thermal pad (Originally for the 4090 never used it) but now I’ve ordered some shunts, but I can’t add any of these items until I get a waterblock. FE blocks are taking a little longer than the other models, but they’re coming. I’m really curious what the Bitspower block will even look like. Do you plan on getting a block though? Are you going to shunt first and run it on the stock HSF? It's gonna kill me seeing you tear it apart especially as I'm sitting here showing my buddy over FT how quiet a FE CAN be with the 5080 FE. 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 9 hours ago, tps3443 said: That’s really good! Which card is this? I would absolutely shunt the card. I went with the 1.5 Ohm 3 watt resistor for my FE from mouser. The stock FE has a single 1 ohm resistor, so stacking 1.5 ohm on top will give me 1,050 watts not counting the PCIe slot power. Bitspower may or may not be sending me a GPU block for testing. Fingers crossed.🤞 I’ve been bugging them to death so we’ll see what happens. The 5090 even shunted is going to chow down 900+ watts even with lower voltages. These cards are throttling hard though man. The biggest issue is the internal clock that is actually running. The cards are reflecting a higher clock speed externally, but it’s really running much slower than that effectively. It’s like a rubber band effect to prevent crashing due to power limits. So shunting will eliminate this entirely! Can you post some of your benchmarks of before and after showing gains? Shunting has to make sense and actually do something other than show more watts with worse performance. And going by effective clocks. I have yet to be above 3 ghz yet. 6 hours ago, jaybee83 said: welp thats the sucky thing, it was can you out of nowhere, even if u had no issues beforehand whatsoever. im happily chugging along on 572.83 while others are crash n burning on it 😄 shouldnt be this way...this is not the way really sounds more and more like its driver-related then. was the hard reset overclocking related? duuuuude, that card looks crazy! mine only does 1.01V at stock with clocks around 2825 Mhz, with voltage slider maxed it goes up to 1.025V 😄 those voltages are insane! ive only seen maybe 1-2 other cards that can break through 1.1V, u definitely have a special one there. 3000+ Mhz at stock, crazy... and yes ive noticed the same, voltages are all over the place, heavily depending on what ure running and even fluctuate wildly during sessions / bench runs. thats even the case if the power limit hasnt even been reached yet. not sure whats going on, hope this is smth that can be rectified with drivers / vbios updates.... overall, its total chaos when it comes to clocks and voltages, every card is so different among 5090s, both in wattage/clocks/voltage, way more variance than with the 4090. those 630W, are those transient spikes or peak load? i might have to give your vbios a go, pls share with the class! 😄 keep us in the loop on your findings, highly interested 🙂 572.83 had my card not running the same, so on this card i did not use that driver. 5 hours ago, electrosoft said: Banger of a card @johnksss especially if you block it. My Astral is in the neighborhood but your clocks are the chef's kiss! Mine is clocking very nicely, so I know yours is going to go to that next level especially if you block it and shunt/XOC it. (FYI, this is my first time punching either boost lock or voltage slider) Stock boost lock: voltage slider in "fun times" mode: Do you plan on getting a block though? Are you going to shunt first and run it on the stock HSF? It's gonna kill me seeing you tear it apart especially as I'm sitting here showing my buddy over FT how quiet a FE CAN be with the 5080 FE. Not sure if there are any blocks yet. I need to check. Also I remember flashing an Astral vbios and it did not unlock 1.1 volts for me. Now I wonder if that was really an Astral vbios. 2 1 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago wondering though if this difference in max reachable voltage actually gives u guys anything extra? especially with that power limit in place... now, where did i put that XOC vbios again....must be somewhere here..... 😛 2 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, johnksss said: Can you post some of your benchmarks of before and after showing gains? Shunting has to make sense and actually do something other than show more watts with worse performance. And going by effective clocks. I have yet to be above 3 ghz yet. 572.83 had my card not running the same, so on this card i did not use that driver. Not sure if there are any blocks yet. I need to check. Also I remember flashing an Astral vbios and it did not unlock 1.1 volts for me. Now I wonder if that was really an Astral vbios. I know over on the OC forums and 3Dmark, XOC/Shunt modded cards are dominating. For @tps3443, that block is crucial for shunting considering the, ah, tight margins on the FE cooler. Here is my Astral vBIOS. Give it a whirl everybody....hopefully you all get awesome performance out of it. 2 hours ago, jaybee83 said: wondering though if this difference in max reachable voltage actually gives u guys anything extra? especially with that power limit in place... now, where ddid i put that XOC vbios again....must be somewhere here..... 😛 Oh you dropped it. Here you go... 🤣 Astral5090.rom 2 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, electrosoft said: I know over on the OC forums and 3Dmark, XOC/Shunt modded cards are dominating. For @tps3443, that block is crucial for shunting considering the, ah, tight margins on the FE cooler. Here is my Astral vBIOS. Give it a whirl everybody....hopefully you all get awesome performance out of it. Oh you dropped it. Here you go... 🤣 Astral5090.rom 1.87 MB · 0 downloads So I have learned that the GPU voltage is not determined by the bios, so even if we flashed to Astral bios. Some Astrals/Suprim’s cannot hit 1.110v even locked in at 1.100v+ with 100% slider. The voltage is controlled directly by the core. 13 hours ago, jaybee83 said: welp thats the sucky thing, it can get you out of nowhere, even if u had no issues beforehand whatsoever. im happily chugging along on 572.83 while others are crash n burning on it 😄 shouldnt be this way...this is not the way really sounds more and more like its driver-related then. was the hard reset overclocking related? duuuuude, that card looks crazy! mine only does 1.01V at stock with clocks around 2825 Mhz, with voltage slider maxed it goes up to 1.025V 😄 those voltages are insane! ive only seen maybe 1-2 other cards that can break through 1.1V, u definitely have a special one there. 3000+ Mhz at stock, crazy... and yes ive noticed the same, voltages are all over the place, heavily depending on what ure running and even fluctuate wildly during sessions / bench runs. thats even the case if the power limit hasnt even been reached yet. not sure whats going on, hope this is smth that can be rectified with drivers / vbios updates.... overall, its total chaos when it comes to clocks and voltages, every card is so different among 5090s, both in wattage/clocks/voltage, way more variance than with the 4090. those 630W, are those transient spikes or peak load? i might have to give your vbios a go, pls share with the class! 😄 keep us in the loop on your findings, highly interested 🙂 I will never see a 1075 in real world either mine is typically 0.990-1.010 and with 100% slider it’ll show a 1.020 So, in order to see the 1075v “At Idle” you need to set 100% voltage slider, and set the 1.110v point on the graph and hit Shift+L to lock it in. This will lock in your highest GPU’s voltage “That it needs” for that set frequency at the 1.1100 voltage graph point. This voltage isn’t controlled by the bios. It’s completely based on the cores needs. 12 hours ago, electrosoft said: Banger of a card @johnksss especially if you block it. My Astral is in the neighborhood but your clocks are the chef's kiss! Mine is clocking very nicely, so I know yours is going to go to that next level especially if you block it and shunt/XOC it. (FYI, this is my first time punching either boost lock or voltage slider) Stock boost lock: voltage slider in "fun times" mode: Do you plan on getting a block though? Are you going to shunt first and run it on the stock HSF? It's gonna kill me seeing you tear it apart especially as I'm sitting here showing my buddy over FT how quiet a FE CAN be with the 5080 FE. My 5090FE is very quiet. 575w in a closed case it stays below 50% Auto fan speed. Undervolting it drops that to sub 40% fan speeds. The main thing with my card is I never see power usage this high unless I’m running Furmark or 4K scaled up 200% to 8K. Since I’m shunt modding, I have to remove the cooler which means I won’t be reinstalling the original air cooler. I’m not taking the cooler off until I have a waterblock in hand though. 6 hours ago, johnksss said: Can you post some of your benchmarks of before and after showing gains? Shunting has to make sense and actually do something other than show more watts with worse performance. And going by effective clocks. I have yet to be above 3 ghz yet. 572.83 had my card not running the same, so on this card i did not use that driver. Not sure if there are any blocks yet. I need to check. Also I remember flashing an Astral vbios and it did not unlock 1.1 volts for me. Now I wonder if that was really an Astral vbios. Once I get a block so I can tear my card apart, I’m going to solder on the shunt. This will make a massive difference for all 5090’s in their internal effective clock speed. 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: So I have learned that the GPU voltage is not determined by the bios, so even if we flashed to Astral bios. Some Astrals/Suprim’s cannot hit 1.110v even locked in at 1.100v+ with 100% slider. The voltage is controlled directly by the core. Good find! So silicon lottery is in play again as always.... 😞 If someone is dedicated enough I can see binning cores and memory (if we're ever allowed to exceed +3000) to compete. I mean, I'm clearly not sad for my Astral but still. I think we always have to remember all that is promised out of the box is the advertised performance... ....we also have to remember most products also come with a 15-30 day return policy or you can sell them off (like CPUs) to friends/family/clients who will never, ever overclock and a 5090 is a 5090 is a 5090 to them. 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: I will never see a 1075 in real world either mine is typically 0.990-1.010 and with 100% slider it’ll show a 1.020 So, in order to see the 1075v “At Idle” you need to set 100% voltage slider, and set the 1.110v point on the graph and hit Shift+L to lock it in. This will lock in your highest GPU’s voltage “That it needs” for that set frequency at the 1.1100 voltage graph point. This voltage isn’t controlled by the bios. It’s completely based on the cores needs. What does your FE say boost locked with PX1 w/ and w/o 100% slider? 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: Once I get a block so I can tear my card apart, I’m going to solder on the shunt. This will make a massive difference for all 5090’s in their internal effective clock speed. For me, it comes down to coil whine. I'd have to hear it at >200fps+ and TS GT2 run to see what it's working with coil whine wise. 50% fans on these FEs is definitely audible but then again I'm running an open case. 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: Once I get a block so I can tear my card apart, I’m going to solder on the shunt. This will make a massive difference for all 5090’s in their internal effective clock speed. True, even the most average FE should beat a good sample 5090 if it is blocked and shunted. 🙂 Looking forward to before and after results. 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, electrosoft said: Good find! So silicon lottery is in play again as always.... 😞 If someone is dedicated enough I can see binning cores and memory (if we're ever allowed to exceed +3000) to compete. I mean, I'm clearly not sad for my Astral but still. I think we always have to remember all that is promised out of the box is the advertised performance... ....we also have to remember most products also come with a 15-30 day return policy or you can sell them off (like CPUs) to friends/family/clients who will never, ever overclock and a 5090 is a 5090 is a 5090 to them. What does your FE say boost locked with PX1 w/ and w/o 100% slider? For me, it comes down to coil whine. I'd have to hear it at >200fps+ and TS GT2 run to see what it's working with coil whine wise. 50% fans on these FEs is definitely audible but then again I'm running an open case. True, even the most average FE should beat a good sample 5090 if it is blocked and shunted. 🙂 Looking forward to before and after results. no dice on unlocked vRAM OC, that is hardlocked in the vBios. so well need the XOC vBios including that special sauce software to drive it... and yeah, can confirm from what ive seen, voltages of a card dont change when flashing different vbios versions. however, there might be different boosting behaviour in terms of power spikes that the card is allowed to do. 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago @tps3443 I was thinking it was already done. My bad. As to voltage, you can try this and see if it will lock the higher voltage. You are not trying to break any records or anything, only trying to lock the voltage and move the core. In the picture it's only 1105 because I'm not using a full screen bench test, so it slightly lowers itself. That and temps. Also that yellow line is the locked voltage point. 1 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 53 minutes ago Share Posted 53 minutes ago 19 minutes ago, johnksss said: @tps3443 I was thinking it was already done. My bad. As to voltage, you can try this and see if it will lock the higher voltage. You are not trying to break any records or anything, only trying to lock the voltage and move the core. In the picture it's only 1105 because I'm not using a full screen bench test, so it slightly lowers itself. That and temps. Also that yellow line is the locked voltage point. Also too, when checking voltage. Make sure your temp is below 56c. That is some vital point with 5090’s. So I’d test yours again, just like you’re doing now only with sub 56c temps. This will reflect its true max voltage. Or at least that’s how it was explained to me. 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, tps3443 said: Also too, when checking voltage. Make sure your temp is below 56c. That is some vital point with 5090’s. So I’d test yours again, just like you’re doing now only with sub 56c temps. This will reflect its true max voltage. Or at least that’s how it was explained to me. Oh, I was only doing that to show you how the locked voltage worked. To see if you could lock at 1.V. I wasn't trying to do anything. LOL 2 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 18 minutes ago Share Posted 18 minutes ago 32 minutes ago, johnksss said: Oh, I was only doing that to show you how the locked voltage worked. To see if you could lock at 1.V. I wasn't trying to do anything. LOL I cannot lock that voltage. My card maxes out even with lower temps. 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 4 minutes ago Share Posted 4 minutes ago 45 minutes ago, johnksss said: Oh, I was only doing that to show you how the locked voltage worked. To see if you could lock at 1.V. I wasn't trying to do anything. LOL Yzonker has a 5090 Astral shunt modded and on water and he cannot lock more than 1075mv. So it really seems to be all over the place card to card. 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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