*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

Plenty of NVMe storage... GPU still PCIe 5.0 X16. Both Sabrent Quad NVMe cards running at their full Gen3 X4 speeds on both chipset X16 slots. No botched up bifurcation trash. 10 NVMe, 3 SATA.

[jaybee83]

27 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Plenty of NVMe storage... GPU still PCIe 5.0 X16. Both Sabrent Quad NVMe cards running at their full Gen3 X4 speeds on both chipset X16 slots. No botched up bifurcation trash. 10 NVMe, 3 SATA.

 

u got enough storage there bud? 😄 (i know i know, look whos talking! 😛 glad im not the only SSD fanatic here hahaha)

 

9 hours ago, johnksss said:

@tps3443

I was thinking it was already done. My bad.

 

As to voltage, you can try this and see if it will lock the higher voltage. You are not trying to break any records or anything, only trying to lock the voltage and move the core. 

In the picture it's only 1105 because I'm not using a full screen bench test, so it slightly lowers itself. That and temps. Also that yellow line is the locked voltage point.

 

hm you mean to say that manually locking in a higher voltage might help push it up?

where does yours land at full stock vs. locking it in manually?

[electrosoft]

PX1 results on my 5080 FE

 

Stock boost lock = 2827 / 1.015v

MaxV slider = 2887 / 1.035v

 

Sub 3ghz across the board = decidedly average (maybe a touch below at sub 2900) but still a beautiful card. 🙂

 

5090 is ~62% faster than my 5080 FE stock for stock (186fps vs 115fps)

5090 is ~~67% faster than my 5080 FE OC vs OC (+300/+3000 on both 210fps vs 126fps)

 

This is the first test with both capped out to 99% on the same drivers (576.02) / install.

 

This Astral 5090 just wrecks it and applying the same OC, the gap just gets wider with the much better silicon in the Astral and cooling.

 

I'm going to install this 9070xt next and give it a proper clean install to give it every chance it has to get where it needs to get to shine as bright as it can.

 

WoW results with the 5080 FE:

 

Stock:

 

 

OC +300 / +3000 (same as Astral 5090):

 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Plenty of NVMe storage... GPU still PCIe 5.0 X16. Both Sabrent Quad NVMe cards running at their full Gen3 X4 speeds on both chipset X16 slots. No botched up bifurcation trash. 10 NVMe, 3 SATA.

 

16 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

u got enough storage there bud? 😄 (i know i know, look whos talking! 😛 glad im not the only SSD fanatic here hahaha)

 

 

hm you mean to say that manually locking in a higher voltage might help push it up?

where does yours land at full stock vs. locking it in manually?

 

Sheesh,  and here I thought @Rage Set was the resident storage nut!  🤣

[jaybee83]

aight boiz, time for daddy to do some tinkering this weekend. conductonaut extreme arrived today, hopefully the TG putty pro will be here by tomorrow, as well 🙂 CPU & GPU cooling upgrade incoming!

[tps3443]

15 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Where does it land with zero voltage adjustments?

 

 

If I were you, I'd sell/trade it for better silicon and more normal PCB AIB model to block and then have fun vBIOS hopping then crank up the chiller for some weekend outings. You can wrap the 5090FE price around yourself like a warm blanket, but it's going to eat away at you.

 

but then again.....

 

 

 

.....buying a more expensive model doesn't guarantee you anything and it really is all over the place with these cards. I swear it feels like CPU binning a bit.

 

People will start asking for tested/binned variants sooner than later. It happened with the 3090 and 4090. My 3090 bins were....ok. 4090 was a very good GPU bin but just a kinda good memory overclocker topping out at +1600 max for benching. The other identical 4090 liquid was absolute trash and couldn't do over 2900mhz'ish full OC'd and memory conked out at +700 if I remember. The variance is bonkers.

 

Still, in the end, a 5090 is a 5090 and the worst bin is absolutely a monster of a card. No coil whine is a 100% win in my book.

 

 

Prices also went up on their low end cards. The $599.99 9070xt's are now ~$659.99. The Gigabyte 5070 SFF I actually had queued up for on launch with B&H for $549.99 is now $604.99 and they emailed me that it was available for buy.

 

Gigabyte gaming OC 9070 not-XT is now $669.99....

Asrock Taichi 9070xt went from $729.99 to $849.99 on NE

 

These are all sold and shipped by BB and NE.

 

 

 

 

I’m not swapping my card. I absolutely love it! I feel like it’s a great example of what an FE is supposed to be. It’s quiet and It’s a low power 5090. I’m very happy with my silicon so far. I feel like Its an excellent sample, clocks can fly without crashing, of course I’m bound by power and temps right now. But I see absolutely no reason to waterblock/Shunt/OC any other GPU. We have what we have. This thing is used for playing games and work, I’m not stressing my self over finding something else.  😃
 

As far as binning goes with 5090’s that is a massive waste of time for me and most. But I know some people who are testing 3+ Astrals or 3+ other models and keeping whichever does best. The reality is, I think any 5090 is going to run 3,200 internally and some models may run 3,400 internally (Once shunted and on water of course) 

 

@electrosoft I thought the 5080FE was overclocked faster than 5090FE by default. But, it isn’t and that’s interesting.. That’s exactly what my 5090 runs at, Your 5080 looks perfectly fine to me though. These cards are not factory overclocked, that boost and voltage is identical to what my 5090 does 2,887 stock. You have essentially added +300 in core and +3000 memory and gained +20 watts more. Your load voltage is even less than stock clocks as the card is still power limited. Notice your voltage went down with the higher overclock even though it’s 1 degree cooler and only 270 watts that card is power limited before even hitting its power limit. This is the case with 50 series unfortunately and our internal clock falls to the floor. Apparently the 5090’s can hit this limit at low 500w sometimes even 450w. You would have to do +473 or maybe +500 and increase power slider to 104% to do a more fair comparison since the Astral has a maxed power slider by default at 100% and a factory OC of +173 It’ll probably drop voltage even more though but I think the silicon can handle it. These cards are so artificially limited man it’s crazy. If you could flash it to the Astral 5080 bios, I think then you’d see it fly just for the extra power head room alone with 5080’s. Or shunt mod it. 😃

[jaybee83]

36 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I’m not swapping my card. I absolutely love it! I feel like it’s a great example of what an FE is supposed to be. It’s quiet and It’s a low power 5090. I’m very happy with my silicon so far. I feel like Its an excellent sample, clocks can fly without crashing, of course I’m bound by power and temps right now. But I see absolutely no reason to waterblock/Shunt/OC any other GPU. We have what we have. This thing is used for playing games and work, I’m not stressing my self over finding something else.  😃
 

As far as binning goes with 5090’s that is a massive waste of time for me and most. But I know some people who are testing 3+ Astrals or 3+ other models and keeping whichever does best. The reality is, I think any 5090 is going to run 3,200 internally and some models may run 3,400 internally (Once shunted and on water of course) 

 

@electrosoft Your 5080 looks perfectly fine to me though. These cards are not factory overclocked. You have essentially added +300Mhz in core and +3000 memory and gained +20 watts more. Your load voltage is even less as the card is still power limited. Notice your voltage went down with the higher overclock even though it’s 1 degree cooler and only 270 watts that card is power limited before even hitting its power limit. The is the case with all 50 series and our internal clock falls to the floor. Apparently the 5090’s can hit this limit at low 500w sometimes even 450w. You may have to do like +400 and increase all sliders to do a more fair comparison since the Astral had a maxed slider by default. It’ll probably drop voltage even more though. These cards are so artificially limited man it’s crazy. If you could flash it to the Astral 5080 bios, I think then you’d see it fly just for the extra power head room alone with 5080’s. Or shunt mod it. 😃

 

totally get it and i must say i agree with it. while i wouldnt have gotten an FE im also not gonna start binning 5090s lol. i know i might not have the best overclocked in this card but i also know its definitely not bottom of the barrel. sure i might be well off compared to many other ppl but doesnt mean i can pump out tens of thousands of bucks just to bin some gpus 😄 with RAM, now thats another story 😉 especially now when RAM prices seem to really bottom out!

[jaybee83]

bro @Papusan time to throw out that cheap garbage peasant Astral LC of yours, your actual 5090 sku just dropped: 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/335948/galaxs-hof-oc-lab-launches-geforce-rtx-5090d-xoc-le-flagship-card-price-usd-4120

 

 

with that MSRP im sure u can buy it in norway for a measly 10k+😄 

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

totally get it and i must say i agree with it. while i wouldnt have gotten an FE im also not gonna start binning 5090s lol. i know i might not have the best overclocked in this card but i also know its definitely not bottom of the barrel. sure i might be well off compared to many other ppl but doesnt mean i can pump out tens of thousands of bucks just to bin some gpus 😄 with RAM, now thats another story 😉 especially now when RAM prices seem to really bottom out!

If your card uses less voltage it just means it probably leaks less than 5090’s that ask for more voltage. But high voltage or low voltage does not determine how high the silicon can scale. @Papusan What does your Astral

voltage run at? 

[Papusan]

5 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

bro @Papusan time to throw out that cheap garbage peasant Astral LC of yours, your actual 5090 sku just dropped: 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/335948/galaxs-hof-oc-lab-launches-geforce-rtx-5090d-xoc-le-flagship-card-price-usd-4120

 

 

with that MSRP im sure u can buy it in norway for a measly 10k+😄 

 

Galax want $520 $535 "extra" premium for the second 12v-2*6 (They should have offered dual 12V-2*6 for all 3 different HOF Sku's). The damn bean counters strikes again.

 

And the card still have the same 600W power limit as every AiB partner cards. I'm sure Nvidia didn't like what Galax did with the 4090 HOF and offered 666W vbios. Dual power connector doesn't help with this gen. But if you are one of the few chosen ones you may get the XOC firmware and the XOC tool. Nope. No thanks. And the D sku for China doesn't tempt me. People in the used market want fully working graphics cards. Not cards offered to China due the US ban.

 

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If your card uses less voltage it just means it probably leaks less than 5090’s that ask for more voltage. But high voltage or low voltage does not determine how high the silicon can scale. @Papusan What does your Astral

voltage run at? 

 

I mean it's 1.095

[jaybee83]

17 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If your card uses less voltage it just means it probably leaks less than 5090’s that ask for more voltage. But high voltage or low voltage does not determine how high the silicon can scale. @Papusan What does your Astral

voltage run at? 

 

hm depends....one might argue that since im reaching 600W with far less voltage my chip is extra leaky 😄 but ure right in that i have no idea how much the voltage values this gen correlate to overclocking capabilities. i just know its currently looking quite chaotic and all over the place, hard to judge.

 

bumped down another 5 mhz on the core, now at +355 offset. had soft crashes / CTDs in Deliver Us Mars.

this game is quite the stability test lol

[tps3443]

28 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

hm depends....one might argue that since im reaching 600W with far less voltage my chip is extra leaky 😄 but ure right in that i have no idea how much the voltage values this gen correlate to overclocking capabilities. i just know its currently looking quite chaotic and all over the place, hard to judge.

 

bumped down another 5 mhz on the core, no at +355 offset. had soft crashes / CTDs in Deliver Us Mars.

this game is quite the stability test lol

High voltage or low voltage the 5090’s can scale up really well I think. We just need low temps, and 1,000+ watts of power! 

[jaybee83]

4 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

High voltage or low voltage the 5090’s can scale up really well I think. We just need low temps, and 1,000+ watts of power! 

that goes without saying! 😄 hopelessly power-starved left right n center!

[electrosoft]

9070xt installed and clean install of Windows 11 Pro for the next few days as my daily driver. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

Day 1 and I'm finding a lot of things I like an don't like.

 

Likes:

 

GPU is stupidly quiet with no coil whine

GPU runs crazy cool under load

Boosts to 3ghz+ right out of the box. Highest I've seen so far is 3230

While it was rumored to have the weaker 304w vBIOS, it actually has the 340w variant and has pulled up to 371w

Minimal lighting and is quieter under load than the 5080 FE and Astral 5090 which were both already very quiet

Very stylish looking

 

Dislikes:

 

Terrible issues with flickering with HDR enabled. The 5080 and 5090 have them too but nowhere near like the 9070xt. I just keep HDR off till I want it on for gaming. Same as I did with Nvidia.

 

While lower than many other 9070xt's I've seen, the hot spot in the 80s along with  the memory hitting 90+. Yes, I know that's within range, but I prefer my temps lower.

 

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In WoW, it is hitting ~98fps in the new test spot 4k ultra RT max with  99% utilization:

 

 

This puts it at:

 

9070xt        =  98fps

9070xt OC  = TBD

5080 FE      = 115fps  (~18% faster than 9070xt)

4090           = 125fps (~28% faster than the 9070xt)

5080 FE OC= 126fps (~29% faster than 9070xt)

4090 OC     = 135fps (~38% faster than the 9070xt)

Astral 5090 = 186fps (~90% faster than the 9070xt)

Astral 5090 OC = 210fps (~114% faster than the 9070xt)

 

5090 OC vs 4090 OC = ~56% faster (whoa!)

 

I'm actually very impressed with the 9070xt on the newest Adrenalin drivers released a few days ago (25.4.1). It has cleaned up a lot of issues in WoW including the stuttering and chunking with RT on. I spent a few hours playing and zero problems.

 

If things stay the same right now, and I was a WoW player and MSRP was in effect, I would pick a 9070xt over a 5080 FE because the price:performance is just better. If price wasn't too much of a consideration, I would then go with the 5080 FE.

 

If price is NO object, the 5090 is just a wrecking ball. The 9070xt is faster in WoW than the 7900xtx and the 5090 just obliterates it in the scariest fashion.

 

 

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On 4/22/2025 at 12:45 AM, Mr. Fox said:

I finally got around to running this. Stock GPU, 4K and Ultra Preset:

 

 

@Mr. Fox Deus Ex MD problem fixed. After a lot of trial and error what was happening was playing around with MSAA in the pre-launch menu was for some reason sticking even when disabled for some reason dragging performance down once in the actual game. Here is a video giving the 9070xt a proper run with all the options checked in the video menu before benchmark so you can install 25.4.1 and give it another go and double check my work:

 

 

 

And the actual results:

 

 

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Lastly is Fallout 76. I happen to find a few spots that push the 9070xt to ~96% util which is good! I have my bud with the 5090 FE actively trying to find the most graphically demanding spots in the game to see how hard we can push the 5090. I plan on joining the hunt when I switch back. Stay tuned....

 

 

 

20 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I’m not swapping my card. I absolutely love it! I feel like it’s a great example of what an FE is supposed to be. It’s quiet and It’s a low power 5090. I’m very happy with my silicon so far. I feel like Its an excellent sample, clocks can fly without crashing, of course I’m bound by power and temps right now. But I see absolutely no reason to waterblock/Shunt/OC any other GPU. We have what we have. This thing is used for playing games and work, I’m not stressing my self over finding something else.  😃
 

As far as binning goes with 5090’s that is a massive waste of time for me and most. But I know some people who are testing 3+ Astrals or 3+ other models and keeping whichever does best. The reality is, I think any 5090 is going to run 3,200 internally and some models may run 3,400 internally (Once shunted and on water of course) 

 

@electrosoft I thought the 5080FE was overclocked faster than 5090FE by default. But, it isn’t and that’s interesting.. That’s exactly what my 5090 runs at, Your 5080 looks perfectly fine to me though. These cards are not factory overclocked, that boost and voltage is identical to what my 5090 does 2,887 stock. You have essentially added +300 in core and +3000 memory and gained +20 watts more. Your load voltage is even less than stock clocks as the card is still power limited. Notice your voltage went down with the higher overclock even though it’s 1 degree cooler and only 270 watts that card is power limited before even hitting its power limit. This is the case with 50 series unfortunately and our internal clock falls to the floor. Apparently the 5090’s can hit this limit at low 500w sometimes even 450w. You would have to do +473 or maybe +500 and increase power slider to 104% to do a more fair comparison since the Astral has a maxed power slider by default at 100% and a factory OC of +173 It’ll probably drop voltage even more though but I think the silicon can handle it. These cards are so artificially limited man it’s crazy. If you could flash it to the Astral 5080 bios, I think then you’d see it fly just for the extra power head room alone with 5080’s. Or shunt mod it. 😃

 

Well, you're going to deface that 5090 FE anyhow with a block and a shunt so..... I won't lie, it will hurt to see it happen, but I'm looking forward to the results.  🙂

 

I did pick up another 4090 Liquid after my first one but the second one was garbage and went right back to BB.

 

Binning is a valid metric that has been proven over and over again from some members binning multiple cards to the XOC "elite" literally binning individual GPU dies to solder onto boards. The same silicon lottery that is at play for CPUs is also at play for GPUs.  It really isn't up for debate. Some GPUs are trash and some are golden and plenty fall in between. Having looked and collected more data over the last few days, I think your 5090 FE is solidly average but for $2k who cares? If it was average with no coil whine but $2k that is a super solid win in my book. You'll block it, shunt it and get more out of it, but if it was more golden, you'd get even a bit more. You clearly care about performance or you wouldn't be shunting and blocking it. You would UV it and run it as is and be happy but you're not so you ordered shunts and awaiting a block. For $2k, you won the price:performance contest. 🙂 Like I said in my last message, even the worse 5090 is a 5090 and an absolute monster destroying all cards except other better binned, tuned, cooled, shunted, XOC'd 5090's which leads me into my next part....

 

I've said this in the past even back to NBR days and I'll say it again. I know people get hung up on internal/effective clocks. They have for quite some time with CPUs and GPUs. It's nothing new. They always have and I have never, ever cared about that. I mean ever. For me, it is the produced results in benchmarks and games, period. Adjusting temps/power/cooling to lift up those effective clocks is the same as lifting up your benchmarks/fps. When I see the results on screen showing a valid, tangible metric showing my overclocking/tuning has resulted in better performance, that is all I need to proceed.

 

Astral 5090 went from 186fps to 210fps in WoW. That was all I needed to know the modest +300/+3000 "duh" OC gave me a nice 13% boost in performance, case closed.  Now, correlating that to on screen clocks of 3180 vs 2895 = ~9.8% boost so we also know memory OC is in play too since clocks didn't scale as high as the actual results this was with zero voltage adjustments, 99% util.

 

I do agree the 5080 FE is very nice. Aesthetically it is gorgeous and I just love the way it looks in a case and its industrial design.  I'm just bummed I can't flash the Astral or Zotac vBIOS on it. While the clocks are......ok (average at best, even a touch sub average), I'm not worried about it and to be honest the 4% PL did much of nothing meaningful when I pushed it on my bud's 5090 FE with AB because it is starting so low out of the block already by design. I saw your video with Oblivion and that 2677 clock just hurt my feelings. As I was watching it, I was saying "I can't wait to see his FE blocked and shunted, my goodness those clocks are poor"  But with my bud's 5090FE and a trade,  It was already a done dead deal with that thing sounding like Johnny5 was being attacked by the terminator under load but getting a chance to play around with it for a few hours really let me know how limited it is by nature from temps to clocks to voltage to more. It is designed to be what it is ($2k, engineering marvel, SFF fans dream card, aesthetically gorgeous, good, basic 5090 performance which is already fantastic) and that's ok.

 

Right now, I have the 9070xt (which is turning out to be a little banger of a card), 5080 FE which I love for the price and aesthetics and solid performance but the lack of cross flashing is a dagger to the heart and the Astral because it is just a wrecking ball even OC'd on air just laying waste to everything I have or had but at a cost.

 

I have till the 2nd, but two of the three above cards have to go bye bye unfortunately. I can't hold onto all three. 5080FE would go to fleabay. Other two are well within their return window.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

9070xt installed and clean install of Windows 11 Pro for the next few days as my daily driver. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

Day 1 and I'm finding a lot of things I like an don't like.

 

Likes:

 

GPU is stupidly quiet with no coil whine

GPU runs crazy cool under load

Boosts to 3ghz+ right out of the box. Highest I've seen so far is 3230

While it was rumored to have the weaker 304w vBIOS, it actually has the 340w variant and has pulled up to 371w

Minimal lighting and is quieter under load than the 5080 FE and Astral 5090 which were both already very quiet

Very stylish looking

 

Dislikes:

 

Terrible issues with flickering with HDR enabled. The 5080 and 5090 have them too but nowhere near like the 9070xt. I just keep HDR off till I want it on for gaming. Same as I did with Nvidia.

 

While lower than many other 9070xt's I've seen, the hot spot in the 80s along with  the memory hitting 90+. Yes, I know that's within range, but I prefer my temps lower.

 

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In WoW, it is hitting ~98fps in the new test spot 4k ultra RT max with  99% utilization:

 

 

This puts it at:

 

9070xt        =  98fps

9070xt OC  = TBD

5080 FE      = 115fps  (~18% faster than 9070xt)

4090           = 125fps (~28% faster than the 9070xt)

5080 FE OC= 126fps (~29% faster than 9070xt)

4090 OC     = 135fps (~38% faster than the 9070xt)

Astral 5090 = 186fps (~90% faster than the 9070xt)

Astral 5090 OC = 210fps (~114% faster than the 9070xt)

 

5090 OC vs 4090 OC = ~56% faster (whoa!)

 

I'm actually very impressed with the 9070xt on the newest Adrenalin drivers released a few days ago (25.4.1). It has cleaned up a lot of issues in WoW including the stuttering and chunking with RT on. I spent a few hours playing and zero problems.

 

If things stay the same right now, and I was a WoW player and MSRP was in effect, I would pick a 9070xt over a 5080 FE because the price:performance is just better. If price wasn't too much of a consideration, I would then go with the 5080 FE.

 

If price is NO object, the 5090 is just a wrecking ball. The 9070xt is faster in WoW than the 7900xtx and the 5090 just obliterates it in the scariest fashion.

 

 

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@Mr. Fox Deus Ex MD problem fixed. After a lot of trial and error what was happening was playing around with MSAA in the pre-launch menu was for some reason sticking even when disabled for some reason dragging performance down once in the actual game. Here is a video giving the 9070xt a proper run with all the options checked in the video menu before benchmark so you can install 25.4.1 and give it another go and double check my work:

 

 

 

And the actual results:

 

 

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Lastly is Fallout 76. I happen to find a few spots that push the 9070xt to ~96% util which is good! I have my bud with the 5090 FE actively trying to find the most graphically demanding spots in the game to see how hard we can push the 5090. I plan on joining the hunt when I switch back. Stay tuned....

I really like the 9070 XT. First AMD GPU I have owned that I can say that. Not the world's fastest, but probably the best bang for the buck. I will try the newer driver this weekend and see how it compares.

 

I just got the build with the Gene redone. I like it. The Antec Constellation C8 case is such a nice one, just a bit smaller than I would like it to be. After putting the 9070 XT in it and putting the RAM back on air, the dual 360 loop with only the CPU on water really cleaned things up. 

 

Now I need to redo the build with the triple radiator in the O11D XL EVO, delid the CPU in the Gene, then I think I am done.

 

 

On a personal note, I am so happy I cancelled my Apex order and did not buy a 5090. I really like the AORUS Master mobo. A couple of minor gripes: no BIOS option to disable WiFi/BT M.2 slot and no setting to adjust the POST wait time to enter setup, but the Cabron was also missing the latter for some stupid reason. I will either physically remove the WiFi7/BT card that I have no use for or maybe see if I can mod the BIOS to add the two missing menu options. (Already asked Gigabyte and they just said no and used the excuse that nobody else is complaining about it and suggested I disable it in Device Manager if I don't want it. Losers.)

 

After selling the Gigabyte 4090, white Apex, TG Xtreem 8200 and 14900KS I purchased the second 9950X, second TG Mycro, 5 radiators, 12 fans, my third Sabrent Quad NVMe card, two D5 pump/reservoirs, tubing, fittings, an Alphacool Core block for the 4090 Suprim (replacing the Bykski block primarily for aesthetic reasons favoring the look of the Core) a couple more 2TB NVMe, a 9600X CPU for the B850 build given to my grand daughters, two 800W UPSes and still have $600 sitting in my PayPal account, LOL. I would have needed to add money to buy a non-FE 5090. When I stop and think about this it makes the thought of buying one just seems totally ludicrous to me now. I was very tempted to blow $3K+ on a GPU I didn't need.

[jaybee83]

kool, TG putty pro came in today, exactly as hoped / planned 🙂 

 

did two stock baselines for the GPU and CPU before i get to tinkering:

 

5090 OC (+355/+3000) 60min Alan Wake 2 4K maxed out DLSS Qual

Core: 64.0C avg. / 65.2C max.

vRAM: 69.8C avg. / 72.2C max.

Voltage: 0.984V avg. / 1.010V max.

Fans: 1618 RPM avg. (43%) / 1638 RPM max. (44%)

Power: 529.6W avg. / 545.6W max.

Clock: 3027 Mhz avg. / 3172 Mhz max.

Load: 97.8% avg. / 99.0 % max.

vRAM usage approx. 13.3 GB

 

9950X3D (Full Stock, Kryonaut on IHS) 60min. CB2024 looped

Clocks (total): 4901 Mhz avg. / 4756 - 5340 Mhz Range

Vcore: 1.115V avg. / 1.074 - 1.225 V Range

CPU Pkg. Power: 199.6 W avg. / 198.4 - 200.0 W Range

CPU Temps (Tctl/Tdie): 73.1 C avg. / 71.0 - 75.0 C Range

 

To put the 9950X3D temps into perspective I compared the data with my previous stock 7950X:

-19 C cooler based on ambient temp delta

Radiator fans at 43% RPM with the 9950X3D vs. the 7950X (same fan curve)

Case fans at 72% RPM with the 9950X3D vs. the 7950X (same fan curve)

4901 Mhz (9950) vs. 5159 Mhz (7950) avg. Clocks = -5% lower clocks on the 9950X3D

2378CB vs. 2163 CB avg. score = +10% higher score on the 9950X3D

199.6W vs. 228.5W pkg. power = -13% pkg. power on the 9950X3D

 

Now you know how crazy the comparison is between 9950X3D and 7950X. It uses less than half of the RPM at 5% lower clocks and is 19C cooler, while at the same time being 10% faster!

 

aight now for some workout and then off to tinkering 🙂 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I really like the 9070 XT. First AMD GPU I have owned that I can say that. Not the world's fastest, but probably the best bang for the buck. I will try the newer driver this weekend and see how it compares.

 

I just got the build with the Gene redone. I like it. The Antec Constellation C8 case is such a nice one, just a bit smaller than I would like it to be. After putting the 9070 XT in it and putting the RAM back on air, the dual 360 loop with only the CPU on water really cleaned things up. 

 

Now I need to redo the build with the triple radiator in the O11D XL EVO, delid the CPU in the Gene, then I think I am done.

 

 

On a personal note, I am so happy I cancelled my Apex order and did not buy a 5090. I really like the AORUS Master mobo. A couple of minor gripes: no BIOS option to disable WiFi/BT M.2 slot and no setting to adjust the POST wait time to enter setup, but the Cabron was also missing the latter for some stupid reason. I will either physically remove the WiFi7/BT card that I have no use for or maybe see if I can mod the BIOS to add the two missing menu options. (Already asked Gigabyte and they just said no and used the excuse that nobody else is complaining about it and suggested I disable it in Device Manager if I don't want it. Losers.)

 

After selling the Gigabyte 4090, white Apex, TG Xtreem 8200 and 14900KS I purchased the second 9950X, second TG Mycro, 5 radiators, 12 fans, my third Sabrent Quad NVMe card, two D5 pump/reservoirs, tubing, fittings, an Alphacool Core block for the 4090 Suprim (replacing the Bykski block primarily for aesthetic reasons favoring the look of the Core) a couple more 2TB NVMe, a 9600X CPU for the B850 build given to my grand daughters, two 800W UPSes and still have $600 sitting in my PayPal account, LOL. I would have needed to add money to buy a non-FE 5090. When I stop and think about this it makes the thought of buying one just seems totally ludicrous to me now. I was very tempted to blow $3K+ on a GPU I didn't need.

 

Agreed, I am really impressed with it. I haven't felt this good about AMD since the 5700xt which was inferior to the 2080ti but I opted to rock that that for a few years till the 3090 dropped. I'm seriously contemplating that again. I was very pleased to see the video and spreadsheet I was using as a reference was incorrect and the Gaming OC provides the same power and performance as the Elite.

 

I just really like either minimalist blackout build or that uniform lighting "industrial borg" look of the system. When I get crushed to the face with an over abundance of rainbow RGB it hurts. Only reason my keyboard is all lit up like a rainbow is because I refuse to run the Steel Series GG software.

 

I think that was a smart move to sell off a lot of hardware, downsize, clean up  and get some clarity financially. My tech fund I built up with the last sell off would be in the negative if I keep the Astral 5090 and MSI Raider 18" along with the Crosshair + 9800X3D combo I picked up. Something has to give. I still do have a nice list of hardware to sell off though I'll get up on Fleabay and the OC forums but with all the hacked accounts over there I'm a bit wary atm.

 

 

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

kool, TG putty pro came in today, exactly as hoped / planned 🙂 

 

did two stock baselines for the GPU and CPU before i get to tinkering:

 

5090 OC (+355/+3000) 60min Alan Wake 2 4K maxed out DLSS Qual

Core: 64.0C avg. / 65.2C max.

vRAM: 69.8C avg. / 72.2C max.

Voltage: 0.984V avg. / 1.010V max.

Fans: 1618 RPM avg. (43%) / 1638 RPM max. (44%)

Power: 529.6W avg. / 545.6W max.

Clock: 3027 Mhz avg. / 3172 Mhz max.

Load: 97.8% avg. / 99.0 % max.

vRAM usage approx. 13.3 GB

 

9950X3D (Full Stock, Kryonaut on IHS) 60min. CB2024 looped

Clocks (total): 4901 Mhz avg. / 4756 - 5340 Mhz Range

Vcore: 1.115V avg. / 1.074 - 1.225 V Range

CPU Pkg. Power: 199.6 W avg. / 198.4 - 200.0 W Range

CPU Temps (Tctl/Tdie): 73.1 C avg. / 71.0 - 75.0 C Range

 

To put the 9950X3D temps into perspective I compared the data with my previous stock 7950X:

-19 C cooler based on ambient temp delta

Radiator fans at 43% RPM with the 9950X3D vs. the 7950X (same fan curve)

Case fans at 72% RPM with the 9950X3D vs. the 7950X (same fan curve)

4901 Mhz (9950) vs. 5159 Mhz (7950) avg. Clocks = -5% lower clocks on the 9950X3D

2378CB vs. 2163 CB avg. score = +10% higher score on the 9950X3D

199.6W vs. 228.5W pkg. power = -13% pkg. power on the 9950X3D

 

Now you know how crazy the comparison is between 9950X3D and 7950X. It uses less than half of the RPM at 5% lower clocks and is 19C cooler, while at the same time being 10% faster!

 

aight now for some workout and then off to tinkering 🙂 

 

Nice baseline set of data to publicly set in stone before "The Tinkerage" starts. 🙂

 

Did you block your 4090 Sujprim or run it strictly on air? Do you plan on blocking your 5090?

 

[Mr. Fox]

50 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

I think that was a smart move to sell off a lot of hardware, downsize, clean up  and get some clarity financially.

The cancer has caused a lot of reflection to occur. I feel mostly normal and haven't changed much overall, but after having to "donate" a $10K after-tax bonus from work to pay medical bills and further enrich a wealthy institution instead of stuffing most of it into a Roth IRA made me begin to re-evaluate things even more than the condition itself. The cynical side of my personality has been boosted rather dramatically, especially when it comes to things where the price tag is ludicrous, opportunistic and abusive and/or the product is a poor price to value proposition. I can't identify a better example of that than a 5090. 

 

I go in on 5/30 for tests to confirm the treatment was effective and boost my medical expense account balance from zero to whatever my deductible and copay is going to amount to.

 

Side benefit... my updated forum signature is smaller now. 

[Papusan]

Le3ss time for me fiddle with computers now. Typical in the spring after the long and cold winter.

 

Now we have reached that time of year where you have to fix up around the house and garden. Tidying up the garden and yard, painting, start the rehab and expansion of the terrace for this springs work. Also bought a Pergola this time. The one I bought has more as a waterproof roof that can be adjusted so you can let in sunlight. The last one they had left in the store.

 

Typically for early spring is that everything in the stores becomes fast empty of seasonal goods. If you can't find what you want then you need to wait for next spring. Or go hunting after parts at the double the cost. 

 

Many hard winters with rainy summers will kill what you have outside the door. Nothing last forever here in the climate we have here in the cold North. Nice have something to spend your hard earned money on.

 

Bought this Pergola. Nice to sit under if there is rainy days. I saved $600 on  sale for the Pergola. So a no brainer I jumped on it now. Next year it will be even more expensive as it always does 🙂Similar Pergola models in other shops is often double the price or around $2300. Well below half the price is a good purchase (if you are in need for one). Run and buy. I did, LOL