Mr. Fox Posted 15 hours ago Author Share Posted 15 hours ago 49 minutes ago, electrosoft said: "Profits above people" extend to all facets of corporate America. The most egregious of them all is the healthcare industry as profitability is grossly incongruent with offering optimal, financially sane care for American citizens. I agree, but I see it as a "corporate world view" that is not limited to America. This is a worldwide problem with big business and China is the biggest offender. Although, American corporations should be an exception to the norm. We should expect them to rise above and be better than that. 1 2 1 Wraith // X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Spectre // X670E Gene | 9950X | AORUS 9070 XT Elite | 32GB DDR5-8000 | RM1200x SHIFT | Dual 360 Loop || Antec C8 (Rhinoceros) Meh! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth + MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Grade A Refurb | Meh! (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago um.... ok guys LOL i just sold my defective 9950X3D on ebay for a THIRD of the price i paid for it. it was gone within a few minutes, how insane is that?!?! 5 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Set Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 22 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: um.... ok guys LOL i just sold my defective 9950X3D on ebay for a THIRD of the price i paid for it. it was gone within a few minutes, how insane is that?!?! Probably someone who thinks they know better than you and can score a cheap working CPU they can fix. Once they realize they can't, they will either request a refund or commit return fraud against a retailer. While that sounds cynical, I've stopped buying open boxes due to the latter reason. 1 4 A Change Is Gonna Come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Rage Set said: Probably someone who thinks they know better than you and can score a cheap working CPU they can fix. Once they realize they can't, they will either request a refund or commit return fraud against a retailer. While that sounds cynical, I've stopped buying open boxes due to the latter reason. welp i wish him all the best with that 😄 ive included clear, concise statements at three different spots in the offer (title, offer type / item condition, detailed description text) that the cpu is defective and its also clearly stated that there are no refunds 😛 crazy people! 4 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 13 hours ago Author Share Posted 13 hours ago 25 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: welp i wish him all the best with that 😄 ive included clear, concise statements at three different spots in the offer (title, offer type / item condition, detailed description text) that the cpu is defective and its also clearly stated that there are no refunds 😛 crazy people! I have sold several dead Intel CPUs on eBay for over $100 each, LOL. And, with very clear disclosures. 2 2 Wraith // X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Spectre // X670E Gene | 9950X | AORUS 9070 XT Elite | 32GB DDR5-8000 | RM1200x SHIFT | Dual 360 Loop || Antec C8 (Rhinoceros) Meh! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth + MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Grade A Refurb | Meh! (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I have bought a dead CPU because it had the missing components needed to fix the partially broken CPU I had at the time. (7980XE) 3 1 1 Maximus Z790 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ Astral 5090 / MSI 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8800 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" 240Hz ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, johnksss said: I have bought a dead CPU because it had the missing components needed to fix the partially broken CPU I had at the time. (7980XE) ok totally get that....but u surely didnt pay several hundred bucks for it 😄 1 2 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago bro @Papusan TPU review of the Astral LC just dropped: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-astral-liquid-oc/ 1 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago On 4/27/2025 at 5:19 PM, electrosoft said: Running some tests comparing the wife's 3080 10gb Strix vs the 9070xt in WoW. She plays at 1440p, but I tested both at 1440p and 4k. I'm thinking of cancelling the 5070 and giving her the 9070xt instead. Problem is in WoW I think the $549.99 5070 will plant itself much closer to the $729.99 9070xt than the 3080 in WoW. I'm also not sure the uplift is worth the disruption at this point. This is at full Ultra 10 w/ RT at max 1440p: Hallowfall: --------------------------- 3080 - 105fps 9070xt - 142fps -------------------------- Oribos: -------------------------- 3080 - 116fps 9070xt - 150fps -------------------------- 4k: Hallowfall: --------------------------- 3080 - 70fps 9070xt - 93fps --------------------------- Oribos: --------------------------- 3080 - 66fps 9070xt - 101fps 5080FE - 115fps 5090 - 186fps --------------------------- This might seem crazy but I was expecting more from 9070XT. Maybe that 3080 could be squeezed even further! 20 hours ago, johnksss said: Okay, so this showed up from Elmor's Labs. 🙂 I have mine! I’m ready for FE blocks. 🫠 2 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I wonder what prices nvidia will put for an 5080@24GB Super cards. Maybe $1199? I don't think Nvidia will do the same as they did with 4080 Super prices. $999 for 24GB cards won't happen. At best maybe $1099,99 Nvidia may release the RTX 5080 and 5070 Super with boosted memory configurations according to leaker How many hotfix drivers will be pushed out before the Super series release and next level of screw ups start? A hotfix for an hotfix... The new normal from the Green team?🤔 NVIDIA releases another GeForce Hotfix driver with 10 game and monitor fixes 6 hours ago, jaybee83 said: bro @Papusan TPU review of the Astral LC just dropped: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-astral-liquid-oc/ Thanks. It's a nice card but the prices is out of hands (not worth it). $2000 is already quite step for MSRP cards. Above $3000 is just disgusting. The cheapest shop I can see the Astral LC OC cost $3122.91 without tax right now (13 in stock). So a price increase around $120 vs what I paid. Fantastic 4K results from the new ++$3000 graphics cards... RTX 4090 Is the First True 8K Gaming GPU According to Benchmarks... Just the start. 99% of all hardware manufacturers in Asia won't move over to US. They will rather move to other regions in Asia where they can avoid the highest tariffs. See you as damn lucky if you only get 10-15% higher prices. This before you count in the increasing infation that will start hunt you again due the tariff war. Cheapest is not to buy anything the next years. The saved money can be used etc to pay for higher priced food. The US is running out of HYTE PC cases due to tariffs: they will have to wait for production in Vietnam or Thailand. Quote Stupid high W/m·K numbers....... I have said this before several times for Liquid metal. Falsely advertised sky high W/m·K thermal conductivity numbers. Nice seeing this being confirmed as pure scam. You can't beat physics.. 1 4 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 8 hours ago, jaybee83 said: ok totally get that....but u surely didnt pay several hundred bucks for it 😄 Hummm, pretty sure it was close to it at the time as the cpu was $2000 when it came out. And this would have been about 6 months from that time. 3 hours ago, tps3443 said: This might seem crazy but I was expecting more from 9070XT. Maybe that 3080 could be squeezed even further! I have mine! I’m ready for FE blocks. 🫠 Looking at blocks now, but may just do my card tomorrow and then wait for the block to show up. 2 Maximus Z790 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ Astral 5090 / MSI 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8800 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" 240Hz ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: This might seem crazy but I was expecting more from 9070XT. Maybe that 3080 could be squeezed even further! I agree when it comes to WoW and especially FO76 where Nvidia rules the roost. 3080 10gb has just been an absolute workhorse beast. It is quickly headed to the 1080ti goated status at its original MSRP. Some games shine better on AMD than Nvidia. WoW loves Nvidia and always has since the major engine overhaul several years ago when they added in RT support. From that point on, the smart play has always been to get Nvidia for WoW. One thing I will give the 9070xt and I can't put my finger on it yet is its smooth, even play at lower fps vs the 5080 or even 5090 in WoW. Spots where I felt like the 5080 chunked a bit the 9070xt just keeps it moving even in raids or outdoor events. In Testing Games comparison of the 9070xt vs anything, its FT graphs are always much smoother than I've ever seen from AMD cards. I played quite a bit of Fallout 76 earlier (found a new testing spot), and even when fps drops to the low 60s on the 9070xt, it was just so smooth. Having logged hundreds of hours on Nvidia cards on both WoW and FO76 for a few years including the 5080 FE and 5090 since January, the consistency and smoothness of the 9070xt really stands out at the same settings at lower frame rates than Nvidia and it is perplexing. ----------------------------------------- Decent video..... Jufus basically saying leave the 5090 FE as is also hitting all the same salient points I made about itx heaven, runs hot not really made/worth blocking...yet I very much want to see it blocked and shunted.... "The best overall 5090 for 90% of people is the 5090 FE" - makes total sense. Sad to see Canada also is paying some insane prices for 5090's too along with low to no stock levels but price conversion wise, USA is just getting raked across the coals right now compared to former countries we routinely had lower prices for years. 😞 And like he said, 600w will have you having SWAS (Sweaty *ss) in a small computer room sooner than later..... 🤣 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: Jufus basically saying leave the 5090 FE as is also hitting all the same salient points I made about itx heaven, runs hot not really made/worth blocking...yet I very much want to see it blocked and shunted.... Nice seeing the tiny trash connector on the Zotac card run hotter than the GPU cores😁 And with uneven power balancing bethween the pins the connector will surely run even hotter. At 100C you can start fry eggs on the backplate for that card. 3 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted 16 minutes ago Share Posted 16 minutes ago https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5680715 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3400264 Maximus Z790 Apex ~ 14900KS ~ Astral 5090 / MSI 4060 ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8800 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" 240Hz ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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