*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The PC tech freak show is all smoke and mirrors, snake oil and fake frames. They need to have a rude awakening and we need to treat them to a financial crisis unlike anything they have ever had to endure. And, while we are at it was can let them know our colons are not their personal sausage grinders.

 

FG aside (yuck), 5090 has some impressive gains in my testing over the 4090 and 5080. Pricing is absolutely terrible, but the performance is there. Down the rest of the stack, you either pay the same or even less for modest gains across the board. It isn't exciting, but it is still net positive across the board. It isn't like Nvidia provided zero up uplift and charged more.

 

We need AMD to do what they're doing to the mid range with the 9070xt to the halo tier. Nvidia literally has zero competition. They didn't have it last time either with the 4090 but the 9070xt lowers the price (when MSRP), ups the RT but is basically performing raster wise overall like a 7900xtx.

 

Demand has many 9070xt's priced like 5070ti's and as much as I like the 9070xt, if pricing is equal, I'm taking the 5070ti.

 

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@tps3443 This is some serious levels of dedication to shunting and ad hoc cooling the 5090 FE!!

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29462990/

 

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

FG aside (yuck), 5090 has some impressive gains in my testing over the 4090 and 5080. Pricing is absolutely terrible, but the performance is there. Down the rest of the stack, you either pay the same or even less for modest gains across the board. It isn't exciting, but it is still net positive across the board. It isn't like Nvidia provided zero up uplift and charged more.

 

We need AMD to do what they're doing to the mid range with the 9070xt to the halo tier. Nvidia literally has zero competition. They didn't have it last time either with the 4090 but the 9070xt lowers the price (when MSRP), ups the RT but is basically performing raster wise overall like a 7900xtx.

 

Demand has many 9070xt's priced like 5070ti's and as much as I like the 9070xt, if pricing is equal, I'm taking the 5070ti.

 

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@tps3443 This is some serious levels of dedication to shunting and ad hoc cooling the 5090 FE!!

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29462990/

 

 

 

 

 

YUK! That poor card! My goodness. His build was really clean looking too! I’m surprised he’d chop an FE up this way. 
 

I’m kinda OCD and I like things looking clean. Based on the rest of his build, I really don’t think he’s gonna be happy with it in a day/week.
 

I would not modify stock cooler, just apply the shunt to give us 1,050-1,200 watts. Revert back to stock, or wait for EKWB block. He got it working though. And I think the FE really needs better cooler for full potential. 

[Papusan]

33 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I’m kinda OCD and I like things looking clean. Based on the rest of his build, I really don’t think he’s gonna be happy with it in a day/week.

 

And not forget all the cards with ugly home brewed heatsink and fans on top of the fancy colored orginal alu backplate to try reduce the temps. Imagine if Nvidia made the 5090 as the 3090 with vram sandwiched on the PCB. Like instant 100C for the vram and backplate. So perfectly fine for cooking food while you gaming. Engineering at the very best. 

 

The tiny trash connectors is almost as superglued to the GPU and PSU, LOOL

[johnksss]

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

And not forget all the cards with ugly home brewed heatsink and fans on top of the fancy colored orginal alu backplate to try reduce the temps. Imagine if Nvidia made the 5090 as the 3090 with vram sandwiched on the PCB. Like instant 100C for the vram and backplate. So perfectly fine for cooking food while you gaming. Engineering at the very best. 

 

The tiny trash connectors is almost as superglued to the GPU and PSU, LOOL

The factory 5090FE cooler is amazing. What’s crazy is that we could actually fit a 5090 FE inside of a laptop. Since the I/O is hooked up via ribbon cable, and same for PCIe X16 connection. And since the main PCB is its own small piece. These connections could be hooked up anywhere. I don’t understand why laptop manufacturers haven’t done this years ago. We can easily put desktop power in a laptop. With no massive motherboard with big BGA chips soldered on. Full on 9800X3D desktop chip inside a laptop. 
 

I cannot imagine what Nvidia 6090 will look like. 
 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

YUK! That poor card! My goodness. His build was really clean looking too! I’m surprised he’d chop an FE up this way. 
 

I’m kinda OCD and I like things looking clean. Based on the rest of his build, I really don’t think he’s gonna be happy with it in a day/week.
 

I would not modify stock cooler, just apply the shunt to give us 1,050-1,200 watts. Revert back to stock, or wait for EKWB block. He got it working though. And I think the FE really needs better cooler for full potential. 

 

Yeah I didn't say it was pretty. 🙂

 

I guess when you really want to know and get things moving and know what you're doing (I'll assume), you improvise. Temps were ~64c avg pulling all that extra juice so it's clearly working to a degree. Just good to see knowing you plan on shunting and blocking your FE.

 

What block(s) are you looking at/ordering? I've always liked the look of EKWB but BP are cheaper are decently functional.

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

The factory 5090FE cooler is amazing. What’s crazy is that we could actually fit a 5090 FE inside of a laptop. Since the I/O is hooked up via ribbon cable, and same for PCIe X16 connection. And since the main PCB is its own small piece. These connections could be hooked up anywhere. I don’t understand why laptop manufacturers haven’t done this years ago. We can easily put desktop power in a laptop. With no massive motherboard with big BGA chips soldered on. Full on 9800X3D desktop chip inside a laptop. 
 

I cannot imagine what Nvidia 6090 will look like. 
 

 

 

Good luck cooling that OR having an old school luggable level laptop. SFF on the other hand? I'm looking forward to continued buildouts with it.... I've been collecting a lot of data on configs, cases, etc... all centered around the 5080/5090 FE design and a 9800X3D.

 

Remember years ago we did have desktop equivalent power in a laptop with the 980  and the P870 laptops. Those were full on Desktop parts in a laptop using MXM. 1080 was also on the same level. Things started to diverge with the 2000 series as the power started to get slap happy and then 3000 series barely moved the needle forward in a laptop vs 2000. 4000 had a lovely switch to TSMC and a node shrink so with the 4080/4090 we got a nice bump in performance. Unfortunately same node as the 5000 series so the needle barely moved akin to 2000 vs 3000.

 

The 5090FE main board itself is most certainly MXM sized but think about the sheer size and compact chunk around it to cool it down. That has to make it's way into a laptop realistically.

 

In the end, you have a 500w+ part and that's just not going to work in any semblance of a modern laptop or even a P870 type where cooling 300w was state of the art and it was a brick house (I loved mine).

 

It would take a homebrew tinkerer to try and really get an FE board and 9800X3D in some sort of all in one ~15-20lb "laptop" to work and I'm 100% here for it.

 

Obviously at least a 780w external adapter.

 

I mean, on paper it is kinda doable but just really ad hoc and specialized.

 

I'm fully expecting a node shrink for the 6090. 5090 is pushing the boundaries as is and has extended the current node as far as it can go realistically.