*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, Alphacool Core finally became available for my 9070 XT. I ordered one and should receive it in a couple of weeks.

 

https://shop.alphacool.com/shop/gpu-wasserkuehlung/amd/14780-alphacool-core-rx-9070-xt-aorus-elite-mit-backplate

 

About time! Looking forward to the results.

 

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

You don't need as many workers if you can't make the chips yourself. Just get rid of the entire workforce and be fabless as AMD. Intel's CEO Mr. Lip doing the work killing Intel the way we know from before. 

 

Next level on this saga.... Intel's fired enginneers will move forwards over to Chinese tech companies. Payback time? Are Mr. Lip Intel's saviour? Not so sure about that. All the greedy shareholder (the board of directors where Lip was a part of) has to be blamed for this. Break up Intel this way don't fix the problem.  

 

You need to spend the needed money on R&D to earn money in tech space. And the whole world lack tech savvy engineers. But Intel prefer to get rid of them to cut cost. What if there is not more to cut? Close down every factory and throw the keys?

 

 

Make America Great Again. Yup, Intel show the way🙄 This is just sad. And the list with Intel's struggling will only increase. Not decrease.

Intel Nova Lake-S CPUs Tape Out on TSMC 2nm N2 Node

Intel shelving its 18A?

Intel axes thousands of technicians and engineers in sweeping U.S. layoffs

Intel’s “Mega-Plans” for U.S. Chip Production Falter as the Company Prepares for Layoffs 5x Higher Than Expected at Its Oregon Facility

 

Intel CEO admits: 'we are not in the top 10 semiconductor companies' anymore

 

And here you can see how Intel failed hard....

Intel's Core Ultra 5 245HX Laptop CPU Outruns Its Desktop Twin

 

 

And who'm in their right mind would trust Nvidia's CEO Jensen Huang? The China lover and billionaire that could sell his own mother for profits.

 

"It could be limited at any time; not to mention, there's plenty of computing capacity in China already," Huang said. "They don't need Nvidia's chips, certainly, or American tech stacks in order to build their military," he added.

Jensen Huang downplays fears over Nvidia chips being used by China's military

 

And nvidia try once more to feed loads of nvidia AI chips into China....

NVIDIA’s Next “China-Specific” Blackwell B30 AI Chip Rumored to See Significant Demand; Dominating The Inferencing

 

And it was same Jensen Huang that said AI would create new well paid jobs. But JP Morgan Chase CEOs say thats wrong. Jep, you can't trust Nvidia's CEO.

 

Amazon, Anthropic, JP Morgan Chase, and many more companies are now warning that AI will be replacing millions of white-collars workers.

 

 

Intel CEO is accepting real world realities. The fact is their fabs and semiconductor standing has fallen so far behind and financially they are in such dire straits that they can not commit the time or resources attacking that AND trying to compete IP wise.

 

AMD realized this years ago and sold off their fabs and focused on IP advancements and using superior fabs to deliver their products and it paid off big time.

 

There is a reason the US is trying to get TSMC fully integrated in the states. It not only puts the premiere fabs state side but also ties us directly to Taiwan while China continues to threaten a take over.

 

Intel brought much of this on themselves not innovating but instead extending and milking product lines like they did for decades until AMD caught up and surpassed them in many ways. Throw in 13th/14th gen woes and it just worsened.

 

Intel has to figure out a way to continue to innovate CPU wise, regain trust and push hard in their GPU department because that is one area they are doing very well.

 

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As for Jensen, like many corporations, he's all about the $$$ and appeasing shareholders. If the US government hadn't started to force corporations to look elsewhere, these corporations would keep on with business as usual to maximize profits using China's cheap labor to the detriment of the US and the world.

 

I'm not saying the last 3 presidential cycles were the best in the US (people keep ignoring the fact Biden was also extending and enhancing the trump 45 policies on China), but one thing across both political parties was consistent and that was checking China.

 

I still do wish that trump was a bit more reserved and pragmatic in his second term approach to tariffs and world economics and focused primarily on China first then rolled out the next phase a bit more structured.

 

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As for AI, anybody with a few firing synapses could see the writing on the wall with AI workplace replacement. It is the ultimate production tool both white collar and blue collar workers. Automation on a sweeping scale but we will reach a tipping point where that automation will cause humans the inability to properly participate in the economy....then what?

 

On 7/11/2025 at 5:11 PM, Mr. Fox said:

This is an interesting one. Good video and very unflattering for NVIDIA. Steve talks about how liberal and empowering Intel is with AIB partners and how NVIDIA is a control freak in stark contrast.

 

 

 

Intel is where Nvidia was at the start. All open arms and welcoming anything and everything to break through and gather market share. Given time and if they somehow make a dent against AMD and Nvidia, you will see those same control freak mechanisms slowly return.

 

Remember, this is Intel. The same company that used to either bribe or coerce resellers and OEMs to not offer AMD and forced parts down their throats. The same Intel that priced their CPUs continually upward and left us with stagnant nodes and core counts till AMD was a viable threat. The same Intel that persists on tossing out chipsets every few cycles forcing consumers to upgrade their motherboards. There are plenty of other examples....

 

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Nice roundup of 9070xt models.

 

XFX Mercury is the best all around cooler by far. Gigabyte Gaming cooler is taking some hits but it is the smallest, shortest model in the mix and clocks aggressively.

 

No way I'm paying $200 more for a Mercury over my Gaming though ($859.99 vs $656.99)....

 

Albeit the Gigabyte Gaming makes his least recommended list heh....

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Nice roundup of 9070xt models.

 

XFX Mercury is the best all around cooler by far. Gigabyte Gaming cooler is taking some hits but it is the smallest, shortest model in the mix and clocks aggressively.

 

No way I'm paying $200 more for a Mercury over my Gaming though ($859.99 vs $656.99)....

 

Albeit the Gigabyte Gaming makes his least recommended list heh....

That was a good video. Looks like I got really lucky with the Elite. Clocks higher anyhow, and I bought it for less than it is currently going for. I am looking forward to seeing how the hotspot and memory temps look on water. High hotspot and memory temps is really the only thing about it that I dislike. Otherwise it is a real banger that offers excellent value to performance.

 

I'm not a huge fan of the Adrenaline driver model. It seems very bloated and has lots of unnecessary consumer garbage, but the same is true of a "stock" GeFarts driver install with the NVIDIA App and all of its associated crap. If I didn't have NVCleanstall to exorcise all of the rubbish it would be equally bloated as Adrenaline IMHO.  Once I get the GPU block I will tinker more with the RadeonSlimmer application to see how much trash I can remove without breaking things. I really don't get why NVIDIA and AMD GPU drivers have such a huge payload of garbage. Maybe some people actually find value in it. I don't.