*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Hard to find a case to be happy with that’s for sure for me anyways. It’s been 6 months already! I’m picky and like to change things too often, and I haven’t wanted to go back to a test bench or any other options and I’m surprised by that. I’ve learned a little since going back to a case. Mainly that I never really loved white cases and white accessories at all. The biggest advantage is because it completely hides dust. The fans, case, and radiators, and PSU always look clean and new. This way you’re not wanting to tear your system apart for a deep clean every year. 😆

Having my Praxis Wetbench was always a constant temptation. I built systems that I didn't need more than once just because I had it and liked it so much that it made me sad to not be using it, so I sold it to remove the temptation. I prefer an open bench for convenience but don't like it for dust and aesthetics. I could clean it to the point of being virtually spotless and immaculate, and in less than an hour it would be covered with desert dust. I love huge cases, but I don't like how much space they take up in my tiny office. If I had a big home office I would have the biggest cases. The O11D XL EVO cases are a good balance. I wish they were a little bit bigger, but they are large enough that I don't hate them because of everything being overly cramped and cluttered looking. If I were going to replace my O11D XL EVO cases with something else I think I would go with a Corsair Obsidian 1000D or 9000D Airflow. They are both massive and look great. They are the same exterior dimensions, so I would have to decide which one I think looks nicer. They are just a little bit larger than the V3000 Plus... length and width almost the same, but about 30MM wider than the V3000 Plus. Enough wider to install two rows of fans and radiators side-by-side in front or at top.

[Papusan]

 

Next level of stupidity.... OLED display on mem sticks is the new low to increase profits. 

 

V-color's new XFinity DDR5 RAM: world's first DDR5 RAM with OLED display

V-Color unveils XFinity+ RAM: the world's first DDR5 RAM with a built-in OLED display, offering speeds of up to 9066 MT/s on AMD and Intel platforms

 

 

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

  If I were going to replace my O11D XL EVO cases with something else I think I would go with a Corsair Obsidian 1000D or 9000D Airflow. They are both massive and look great. 

 

Enough wider to install two rows of fans and radiators side-by-side in front or and at top.

 

I fix it for you🙂

 

[Kitje]

17 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Next level of stupidity.... OLED display on mem sticks is the new low to increase profits. 

 

V-color's new XFinity DDR5 RAM: world's first DDR5 RAM with OLED display

V-Color unveils XFinity+ RAM: the world's first DDR5 RAM with a built-in OLED display, offering speeds of up to 9066 MT/s on AMD and Intel platforms

 

 

 

I fix it for you🙂

 

The only thing I'd use it for is to display 💩 emoji. Why must everything need a display panel?

[Mr. Fox]

42 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Next level of stupidity.... OLED display on mem sticks is the new low to increase profits. 

 

V-color's new XFinity DDR5 RAM: world's first DDR5 RAM with OLED display

V-Color unveils XFinity+ RAM: the world's first DDR5 RAM with a built-in OLED display, offering speeds of up to 9066 MT/s on AMD and Intel platforms

I fix it for you🙂

There is never a shortage of stupid. I expect demonstrations of stupidity now as status quo. Intelligence is something I appreciate because of its rarity. On that basis it will probably sell well and become popular. It doesn't need to be good RAM. It doesn't need to be fast or good at overclocking. It merely needs to be a shiny object.

 

Good catch on the typo correction. The word "and" is more accurate because you do not have to choose between top  or front, you can have both.

[tps3443]

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Having my Praxis Wetbench was always a constant temptation. I built systems that I didn't need more than once just because I had it and liked it so much that it made me sad to not be using it, so I sold it to remove the temptation. I prefer an open bench for convenience but don't like it for dust and aesthetics. I could clean it to the point of being virtually spotless and immaculate, and in less than an hour it would be covered with desert dust. I love huge cases, but I don't like how much space they take up in my tiny office. If I had a big home office I would have the biggest cases. The O11D XL EVO cases are a good balance. I wish they were a little bit bigger, but they are large enough that I don't hate them because of everything being overly cramped and cluttered looking. If I were going to replace my O11D XL EVO cases with something else I think I would go with a Corsair Obsidian 1000D or 9000D Airflow. They are both massive and look great. They are the same exterior dimensions, so I would have to decide which one I think looks nicer. They are just a little bit larger than the V3000 Plus... length and width almost the same, but about 30MM wider than the V3000 Plus. Enough wider to install two rows of fans and radiators side-by-side in front or at top.

I investigated the 9000D pretty heavily because I wanted one. I ultimately didn’t get one because it’s super expensive and built very cheap for its cost. It has the rattles, it has flex, lots of plastic in places, lots of thin metal everywhere . If you’re okay with that then you will like it. My case empty is twice the weight of a 9000D empty. That alone explains it all. Corsair is making a killing on these cases. Even the 1000D is double weight of a 9000D. So I think Corsair learned a lot with the 9000D and then heavily modified the budget to make it. 
 

9000D=34 pounds

1000D=65 pounds

V3000+= 68 pounds

 

[Mr. Fox]

49 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I investigated the 9000D pretty heavily because I wanted one. I ultimately didn’t get one because it’s super expensive and built very cheap for its cost. It has the rattles, it has flex, lots of plastic in places, lots of thin metal everywhere . If you’re okay with that then you will like it. My case empty is twice the weight of a 9000D empty. That alone explains it all. Corsair is making a killing on these cases. Even the 1000D is double weight of a 9000D. So I think Corsair learned a lot with the 9000D and then heavily modified the budget to make it. 
 

9000D=34 pounds

1000D=65 pounds

V3000+= 68 pounds

That's good to know about the 9000D. The Corsair Airflow case I used to have a few years ago was very well made and had thick steel panels. It was too small for a decent custom loop to fit inside of it and I ended up not liking it enough to keep it because it was too small. Sad to hear they started cutting corners. Corsair has some really good products, but some of their stuff is totally junk. Not very consistent.

 

I honestly can't see myself doing anything other than sticking with the two O11D XL Evo cases that I already have. It wouldn't work for a big mobo like the one you have but for my two current ATX builds is just about right overall. I'd like it better if it were about an inch or two taller at both ends of the motherboard tray and and about an inch or so wider between the motherboard tray and glass side panel. That would make it close to being perfect but I can't remember the last time I owned any computer component that I actually viewed as being perfect or a completely satisfying product. Seems like there's always one or two things that suck about anything available for purchase no matter what it is or how much it costs.

[tps3443]

34 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's good to know about the 9000D. The Corsair Airflow case I used to have a few years ago was very well made and had thick steel panels. It was too small for a decent custom loop to fit inside of it and I ended up not liking it enough to keep it because it was too small. Sad to hear they started cutting corners. Corsair has some really good products, but some of their stuff is totally junk. Not very consistent.

 

I honestly can't see myself doing anything other than sticking with the two O11D XL Evo cases that I already have. It wouldn't work for a big mobo like the one you have but for my two current ATX builds is just about right overall. I'd like it better if it were about an inch or two taller at both ends of the motherboard tray and and about an inch or so wider between the motherboard tray and glass side panel. That would make it close to being perfect but I can't remember the last time I owned any computer component that I actually viewed as being perfect or a completely satisfying product. Seems like there's always one or two things that suck about anything available for purchase no matter what it is or how much it costs.

The 011 XL is a beast as well though, they are like 44 pounds empty. Should be very Rigid and well made. I don’t know what 011 my son has. I think it is a 011 Evo not the XL but smaller one. It has glass and mesh panel kit. 
 

I’m thinking about putting my case on the floor and incorporating some wheels or some platform for it to sit on that rolls around. 

[Papusan]

6 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I investigated the 9000D pretty heavily because I wanted one. I ultimately didn’t get one because it’s super expensive and built very cheap for its cost. It has the rattles, it has flex, lots of plastic in places, lots of thin metal everywhere . If you’re okay with that then you will like it. My case empty is twice the weight of a 9000D empty. That alone explains it all. Corsair is making a killing on these cases. Even the 1000D is double weight of a 9000D. So I think Corsair learned a lot with the 9000D and then heavily modified the budget to make it. 
 

9000D=34 pounds

1000D=65 pounds

V3000+= 68 pounds

 

 

Hmmm. 1000D is 37.5 kilogram emphy thats approximately 83 pound

 

And I mean the 9000D also weigth arornd the same. Not sure where you found that info.

 

I think my 1000D is closer to +60 Kg now with what I have installed. Hence the need for the trolley table that can handle 200KG😀 

 

 

Thermal Grizzly launches ASUS RTX 5090 GPU waterblock, costs more than RTX 5070 graphics card

 

Well over $650 USD here home🙄

 

And here is AMD's fine wine....😀 And probably why Nvidia deleted the Hot spot sensor for 5000 series. RMA within warranty period cost money🤔

The AMD RX 6900 XT and RX 6800 XT are dying after several years of use due to excessive temperature in their Hot Spot.

[jaybee83]

waddhup boiiiiiiz

 

Soooo as mentioned before, Ive now pimped our home network up from a crappy ISP Wifi5 router to a Wifi 7 Mesh router by Cudy (WR11000 / BE11000), hadnt heard of that brand before but they seem to be on the up and up recently:

 

While at it, I figured why not use the opportunity and also swap out my Wifi card from the Intel 210ax with Wifi6E to a Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi7 M.2 Adapter:

 

until I realized that i need to FRIGGIN TAKE OUT THE WHOLE MOTHERBOARD in order to remove the VRM heatsinks via screws on the back to get to the Wifi module omg...

 

so THEN i figured: F it, if im gonna disassemble my whole build, might as well upgrade the case, fans and the AIO while im at it, clean all the components that will stay the same and start out FRESH 😄 

 

soooo, case first, im sticking to Phanteks and switching over to the NV9 MKII, absolute unit of a case, even larger than my current Enthoo Pro II (going from approx. 77L to 99L total volume LOL):

 

 

reasons why I chose this case:

- welp, SIZE obviously 😄 also looking forward to having more space for cable management on the back vs. my current Enthoo Pro II

- motherboard located quite low in the case, so lots of space up top to move my current front AIO to the top

- more glass to see inside

- moving to all 140mm fans, currently still have 3x120mm at the bottom

 

while im at it, also gonna get the light strips upgrade kit for the case, bling it out some more:

 

next up, CPU AIO, sticking with Arctic but moving from my current 420 LFII to the 420 LFIII Pro. Apparently, the "pro" moniker in this context means that the fans have been upgraded, thus higher static pressure and higher air flow:

 

 

ill be keeping my Noctua NF-A14 Industrial-PPC 3000rpm for push/pull on the AIO and use the included AIO fans as case fans instead.

 

Also gonna get another 6 Arctic P14 Pro fans to deck out the NV9 MKII:

 

theyre actually pretty impressive specwise, with 187m³/h air flow and 5.2 mm H2O static pressure. This with 6 years warranty and at 30€ for a 3-pack. so basically 10 bucks per fan, nice 🙂 

 

Lets see how long this transplant will take, I wager itll likely take me a full week of late nights after my lil princess has gone to bed to make this happen. it will sure be fun though!

 

Will update you guys with pics once done 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, tps3443 said:

The 011 XL is a beast as well though, they are like 44 pounds empty. Should be very Rigid and well made. I don’t know what 011 my son has. I think it is a 011 Evo not the XL but smaller one. It has glass and mesh panel kit. 
 

I’m thinking about putting my case on the floor and incorporating some wheels or some platform for it to sit on that rolls around. 

I have three of these. A desktop on one each and the chiller and 5 gallon tank on the third. I think it would work well for your desktop. They are impressively sturdy. The bottom shelf supports 100 pounds and the top shelf 80 pounds and the height is adjustable.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09SCYSFP9?th=1

 

7 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

While at it, I figured why not use the opportunity and also swap out my Wifi card from the Intel 210ax with Wifi6E to a Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi7 M.2 Adapter:

I would like to be able to appreciate WiFi 7 but can't go there because of Micro$lop's harmful influence and chokehold on the industry. I really don't understand why any of the feckless hardware manufacturers allow them to call the shots. They should have to fall in line and bow to the hardware makers to maintain relevance, but we've got the tail wagging the dog with the Redmond Retards in control. No way in hell I can embrace the notion of installing hardware that only has driver support for the Winduhz 11 trash OS. I already have two desktops with crappy WiFi 7 cards installed that I can't use because of that. If I actually needed to use WiFi on either desktop I would be pulling off the VRM/IO shields and replacing both with WiFi 6 or older technology so I can make my own decisions about what OS I am going to use.

[Mr. Fox]

This is what happens when you build a desktop GPU like a turdbook instead of a one-piece PCB. This is why I instantly rejected it when I saw how it was made. Predictable outcome with a product deliberately designed with multiple points of failure.

 

[Papusan]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is what happens when you build a desktop GPU like a turdbook instead of a one-piece PCB. This is why I instantly rejected it when I saw how it was made. Predictable outcome with a product deliberately designed with multiple points of failure.

 

 

And good luck getting needed parts for repairs. Nvidia won't give at the doors. Either you still have warranty or you are out of luck. Stupid design. Pretty for some, yes but not as functional if you want longevity for your expensive purchase. Not everyone will feel well when tearing this card for trouble shooting (after the warranty have expired).

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is what happens when you build a desktop GPU like a turdbook instead of a one-piece PCB. This is why I instantly rejected it when I saw how it was made. Predictable outcome with a product deliberately designed with multiple points of failure.

 

 

Final verdict: 

 

"Too many points of failure"

"Stick to something traditional"

 

I'm trying to figure out how the card was damaged to that point. They said UPS damaged it, but the way its designed no way the core comes away like that without zero damage anywhere on the outside and zero damage on the PCIe external connector but clearly bent/damaged pins on the internal mating and core contact damage.

 

My guess is someone messed up blocking it and/or trying to reapply LM.

 

Best thing is Tony learned a lot from working on one to refine his process for future 5000 series FE work including knowing to charge more for those repairs due to the complexity and headaches.

 

------------------------

 

*Sigh* and another scam over on OCN......

 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-tuf-rtx-5090.1817558/page-2?post_id=29509662#post-29509662

 

You have to understand with so many compromised accounts that many are still in the proverbial chamber of bad actors to try and get people to pay with Zelle or PPFF or VenmoFF.

 

You should never, ever use these methods unless you absolutely know the person personally. I was in discussion for a few GPUs recently and the breaking point was payment. I'm not sending off FF no matter how good of a deal it is ever....

 

You suck it up and offer G&S like every other real business and entity offers.

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

On 9/14/2025 at 4:37 PM, Mr. Fox said:

This is what happens when you build a desktop GPU like a turdbook instead of a one-piece PCB. This is why I instantly rejected it when I saw how it was made. Predictable outcome with a product deliberately designed with multiple points of failure.

 

 

Sad seeing such overengineered fragile trash. Design over everything. Asus made a damn good card but all too expensive. But as long they continue use that tiny power connector the better cards doesn't look much better. The wimpy 12V-2*6 is still the weak point. 

 

 

 

LOL

 

 

Hmmm. 

 

 

This will also affect SDD's

Western Digital announces immediate price increase for its mechanical hard drives (HDDs)

 

 

China won't give at the doors...

The US adm have opened the "can of worms". I hope Nvidia's CEO Jensen enjoy the game😀 30% of all profits/revenue for nvidia at the stake. Same with Texas Instruments. So minimum 30% tax money down the drain. Imagine you lost 30% of your sallery within a few months... You would risk become poor and in worst case become homeless. What with Nvidia and their shareholders.... Will they handle a loss of +30% of the sales? Or will they only be a part of the tech/AI bubble that will blow off as we expect? A nice reminder... Search what happened in 2008. Here's a sneak peek.

 

China places its noose around the US's neck: anti-dumping investigation into analog chips and trade bans

China has lit a new spark in the semiconductor war, this time against analog chips from the United States, which has just been put in the noose. China has opened an anti-dumping investigation that could lead to.... Xi Jinping knows how to play Trump's game and puts him in front of a mirror with his companies looking back at him.

 

China claims to have created an AI that works like the human brain: a model up to 100 times faster than ChatGPT

[tps3443]

On 9/13/2025 at 3:37 PM, Papusan said:

 

Hmmm. 1000D is 37.5 kilogram emphy thats approximately 83 pound

 

And I mean the 9000D also weigth arornd the same. Not sure where you found that info.

 

I think my 1000D is closer to +60 Kg now with what I have installed. Hence the need for the trolley table that can handle 200KG😀 

 

 

Thermal Grizzly launches ASUS RTX 5090 GPU waterblock, costs more than RTX 5070 graphics card

 

Well over $650 USD here home🙄

 

And here is AMD's fine wine....😀 And probably why Nvidia deleted the Hot spot sensor for 5000 series. RMA within warranty period cost money🤔

The AMD RX 6900 XT and RX 6800 XT are dying after several years of use due to excessive temperature in their Hot Spot.

It’s shipping weight that Corsair list on the website for some reason I am not sure why manufactures do this with PC cases.. 
 

Corsair 1000= 29.5kg empty or 65lbs empty.

[Rage Set]

What's up everyone! I am sorry I have been away for awhile. I am trying my hand at YT and hopefully build a large enough following to get sponsored by a CNC maker or continue to build my reserve to buy one. 

 

I haven't had the urge to upgrade any of my PC's to the latest and greatest (although I am thinking about the 9950X3D). I came across some local listings on a 5090, that weren't exactly deals (used, still above MSRP). The days of great used hardware prices are dead - people want 80 to 110% of their purchase price, and with new cards closing in on their MSRP's, I don't know who is buying used at these prices. 

 

I think that if Intel releases the B770 and it's under $400, I'll pounce on that card. I only need something good enough for video editing and CAD. 

 

I hope you and your families are doing well. I'm back here fully, doing my normal lurking.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

21 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

What's up everyone! I am sorry I have been away for awhile. I am trying my hand at YT and hopefully build a large enough following to get sponsored by a CNC maker or continue to build my reserve to buy one. 

 

I haven't had the urge to upgrade any of my PC's to the latest and greatest (although I am thinking about the 9950X3D). I came across some local listings on a 5090, that weren't exactly deals (used, still above MSRP). The days of great used hardware prices are dead - people want 80 to 110% of their purchase price, and with new cards closing in on their MSRP's, I don't know who is buying used at these prices. 

 

I think that if Intel releases the B770 and it's under $400, I'll pounce on that card. I only need something good enough for video editing and CAD. 

 

I hope you and your families are doing well. I'm back here fully, doing my normal lurking.

We missed you, brother. Hope all is well with your family, too.

[Rage Set]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

We missed you, brother. Hope all is well with your family, too.

 

I missed all of you too. Outside of the people here, I really don't have anyone to talk shop (tech) with. Some nights, I get the itch to overclock something, but my 14900KS desktop lies dormant. I am sure if I had a big boy GPU, I would have an excuse to do it. And here I thought 3D printers would be a laid-back adventure, haha - far from it. I have my eye on this - Carvera Desktop CNC machine. It's a little pricey, but it is basically three 5090's, 🤣 I want to design and make my own CPU/GPU blocks. 

 

Anyway, I'll be around.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

I missed all of you too. Outside of the people here, I really don't have anyone to talk shop (tech) with. Some nights, I get the itch to overclock something, but my 14900KS desktop lies dormant. I am sure if I had a big boy GPU, I would have an excuse to do it. And here I thought 3D printers would be a laid-back adventure, haha - far from it. I have my eye on this - Carvera Desktop CNC machine. It's a little pricey, but it is basically three 5090's, 🤣 I want to design and make my own CPU/GPU blocks. 

 

Anyway, I'll be around.

That sounds very exciting. I'd love to get into something like that if I had to money and space for the equipment.

 

As far as overclocking goes, you're not missing much. The idiots that design and manufacturer PC components are ruining everything for overclocking enthusiasts. Pretty much because they are all incompetent dumba$$es that survive by clever deceptive marketing and gaslighting the crap out of consumers. Most of what is produced now is locked down trash or overpriced unusable junk. What I mean but "unusable" is (for example) an enthusiast motherboard with a CPU socket that all of the CPUs that fit in it are trash that suck at overclocking, or the imbeciles that made it ruined something that could have otherwise been great by adding two extra memory slots that eff-it-up. And, any hardwware that  is not dog crap becomes worthless garbage because its gonads are crushed by cancer firmware. They should all feel very grateful that I am not the one that gets to decide their fate. The story wouldn't have a happy ending for any of them.

[Reciever]

So I finally have a formal staycation lined up for christmas time, first time in maybe 6 years...So naturally I have some work lined up lol

 

2x GTX 690 w/ accelero xtreme

1x ATi HD 5870 w/ accelero xtreme

2x GTX 280's (1x w/ accelero xtreme)

2x 9800 GTX's w/ accelero xtreme (Having to modify, doesnt line up perfectly)

2x ATi HD 5970's (1x accelero xtreme)
1x AMD R9 280X TRI-X 
1x AMD R9 390X TRI-X 
1x ATi 4870x2 Reference
1x GTX 295 Dual PCB
1x GTX 970 MSi Gaming

1x RTX 3090Ti

1x 7900 XTX Red Devil (Never Finished)
1x GTX 1060 3GB (Reference)

I might pick up a few more GPU's if the price is right.

Thanks to @Mr. Fox's writeup I'll likely start to pick up some of the water cooling equipment so I can put the 7900 XTX and 10850K (also courtesy of The Fox!) under water and get a bench built around that next to my Daily Driver.

 

Luckily I am still working more than I sleep so picking these parts up should be more than plausible...

If you guys have any 3rd party heatsinks for older cards feel free to reach out, I seem to have a fascination with accelero xtremes :)

[Papusan]

@Rage Set happy to see you again. Hope all is well🙂 Back to Norway from the summer vaccation. And back to rain and the fall. The dreaded dark is already here. But 12.5C in the days is better than 4-5C, isn't it? So back to depression I go🙁

 

Nvidia's China-exclusive RTX 6000D reportedly gets lukewarm reception in China due to hobbled performance — could leave Nvidia with huge backlog of unwanted GPUs

 

Let e'm burn in with the overpriced cards that no one want. Let'm bleed money.

 

Estimates by JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley suggest Nvidia may be on track to produce between 1.5 and 2 million of these GPUs before the end of the year, potentially leaving it sitting on a huge stack of unwanted cards.

 

Only $1,119 USD. For 5070Ti. Disgusting. Asus can't stop maximice profits from stupid consumers/gamers. Amazon exclusive, LOL

ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7 Released – Amazon Exclusive

 

ASUS has incorporated a range of reinforced electrical components, including TUF chokes, MOSFETs, and advanced 5K capacitors, engineered to sustain higher temperatures and provide greater stability than standard solutions.

 

Its Amazon-exclusive release strategy underscores a targeted distribution model while providing gamers with a GPU optimized for stability, thermal management, and next-generation GDDR7 memory performance.

 

If the stability is a problem with cheaper SKU's.... Why make cards that ain't stable? Here in Norway we have 5 years warranty. Some places even 7 years. Good luck A$$us if you cut down on quality&QC. There is something that called "payback" time. There is no place here you can offer/sell pure trash. Not here atleast🙂 Good luck greedy bastards! Our very good consumer laws will crush you. And that will help rest of the words consumers. Go back to the draw table and make products that will last 7 years. Or you'll lose money. Not this scam. God bless real consumer laws🙂

 

Modern times. Exactly how Jensen said... Pay more get more.