*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Reciever]

Just scored a 980Ti for 50 bucks on ebay. 

 

Not really anything to write home about, except that it appears the owner was not aware that it came equipped with the morpheus 2 aftermarket heatsink which can't be sourced for anything less than 250-500. Obviously not going to spend that much on just a heatsink so I'm quite happy with the purchase. 

 

It's going to be a busy winter this year :) 

[Papusan]

 

And it continue.... Intel want Apple to invest some of their money in Intel. What you think about this bro @Mr. Fox🤐 Or should they rather ask the US adm for more money (tax payers money)so they can make a real State-controlled cooperative? Like in the old days with the Soviet Union. This smells bad. Really bad. Or you prefer that Apple can help and dominate Intel so they can force/change them to make tech they want ? 

 

"USSR Cooperative" refers to cooperative organizations that operated within the Soviet Union's command economy, playing significant roles in various sectors from consumer goods and agricultural products to housing and handicraft production. The cooperative system, including large state-controlled unions like Centrosoyuz, evolved significantly

 

Intel reportedly asks former partner Apple for financial injection

Intel is in crisis and has now reportedly asked its former partner Apple for money and a new partnership.

 

 

 

Other talks have already been successful

Intel recently successfully approached the US government and Nvidia for financial support. The US government in Washington, DC, invested over $10 billion in the chipmaker , and GPU giant Nvidia followed suit with $5 billion and a partnership for Intel's CPUs . Apple could thus become the next major investor and partner on the list.

 

Also Softbank have invested $2billion in Intel.

 

 

 

 

I'm sure Intel will try compete with their next gen Intel processors made from the US tax payers money and Nvidia/Softbank. The race to the bottom have started. Qualcomm have fired the start shoot. The race is real😒

 

 

Qualcomm developed super-thin fanless Mini-PCs with Snapdragon X2 Elite series

 

 

Qualcomm's new Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme and Elite chips for PCs stretch up to a record 5 GHz

[Papusan]

 

This is how the favorite brand to @electrosoft want to push their trashware on consumers. Tempted brother ?😀

 

GamingLaptops moderators warn of MSI marketing bots flooding threads on Reddit

 

 

And here is some golden nuggets for bro @Mr. Fox Better say the future for modern computing😐

 

Steam Beta brings TPM/Secure Boot checks to System Information

 

Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 have become requirements for an increasing number of games, mainly those with stricter anti-cheat systems. Recent examples include EA’s Javelin anti-cheat in Battlefield 6 and the upcoming Call of Duty: Black Ops 7, both of which will not launch without these security features enabled

 

Steam beta helps players prep for games requiring Secure Boot or TPM

Steam Hardware Survey will also start collecting Secure Boot and TPM data

 

As always. No love for Gigabyte.

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

This is how the favorite brand to @electrosoft want to push their trashware on consumers. Tempted brother ?😀

 

GamingLaptops moderators warn of MSI marketing bots flooding threads on Reddit

 

 

I'm not surprised. Targeted and blanket marketing across many companies and spectrums, like many things nefarious, will use the tools available to them and now it happens to be AI and bots.

 

Still sad to see from MSI 😞

 

(Hugs Vanguard while rocking back and forth and asking MSI 'Why? WHY?")  😂

 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Steam Beta brings TPM/Secure Boot checks to System Information

 

Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 have become requirements for an increasing number of games, mainly those with stricter anti-cheat systems. Recent examples include EA’s Javelin anti-cheat in Battlefield 6 and the upcoming Call of Duty: Black Ops 7, both of which will not launch without these security features enabled

 

Steam beta helps players prep for games requiring Secure Boot or TPM

Steam Hardware Survey will also start collecting Secure Boot and TPM data

 

As always. No love for Gigabyte

 

Best bet is to have a games only install of W11/10 if you're that concerned with nothing else of value installed. The low level access afforded to anti-cheat measures is pretty alarming, but it shows the extent some gamers and companies will go to cheat.

 

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

And here is some golden nuggets for bro @Mr. Fox Better say the future for modern computing😐

 

Steam Beta brings TPM/Secure Boot checks to System Information

 

Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 have become requirements for an increasing number of games, mainly those with stricter anti-cheat systems. Recent examples include EA’s Javelin anti-cheat in Battlefield 6 and the upcoming Call of Duty: Black Ops 7, both of which will not launch without these security features enabled

 

Steam beta helps players prep for games requiring Secure Boot or TPM

Steam Hardware Survey will also start collecting Secure Boot and TPM data

Fortunately, gaming is an expendable and totally unnecessary pleasure to me. The solution for me is a simple one: don't purchase any games that mandate the enablement of Secure Boot or TPM. There is not any, and never will be any, game important or enticing enough for me to make an exception or compromise my personal choice of disabling or enabling anything that is against my personal preference. The part that angers me is the carte blanche requirement for those that do not care about online multiplayer gaming and find online gaming cheating to be totally irrelevant. If they are going to make it a requirement on that basis, it should only apply to online multiplayer and not single player campaign. I know they are stupid and I know that can't fix that. There's no point in trying or allowing them and their hopelessly idiotic nonsense to waste my time.

At the end of the day I view it as a first-world problem for the game devs. I am more than happy to ignore their products and not give them my money. When all is said and done, "not my circus, not my monkey" and "frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn" is my position on the matter. They can join the Redmond Reprobates in having a standing invitation to kiss my butt. It sucks to be them more than it sucks to be me. I only care about me and what they want doesn't matter.

[Mr. Fox]

The latest Strix X870E-E BIOS improved the memory tuning slightly. Finally able to get the latency down from about 58ns to below 56ns. Nothing spectacular, but small improvement is better than a small regression. I'll play with retightening the tRCDWR to see if I can eek a little more mojo from it without losing any stability. It's interesting that it's not better, considering the overhyped "Nitropath" gimmick ASUS chirped about and played up to be such a great invention. It has that feature but I've yet to identify any real or tangible value that it added.

 

It is still not as good as the AORUS Master, but I have been too lazy to move the 5090 over to it and install the 4090 in the Strix. I haven't felt like messing with the cooling system and the tubing/fitting orientation is different. When I get around to it I am going to try to normalize the two configurations so I can freely move the GPUs back and forth without any kind of rigmarole. The Strix has the better of the two 9950X CPUs in it, so I should probably swap those out while I am at it. Maybe I will get ambitious when I install the EVC2 mod on the 5090 and do all of that at once.

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The latest Strix X870E-E BIOS improved the memory tuning slightly. Finally able to get the latency down from about 58ns to below 56ns. Nothing spectacular, but small improvement is better than a small regression. I'll play with retightening the tRCDWR to see if I can eek a little more mojo from it with losing any stability. It's interesting that it's not better, considering the overhyped "Nitropath" gimmick ASUS chirped about and played up to be such a great invention. It has that feature but I've yet to identify any real or tangible value that it added.

 

It is still not as good as the AORUS Master, but I have been too lazy to move the 5090 over to it and install the 4090 in the Strix. I haven't felt like messing with the cooling system and the tubing/fitting orientation is different. When I get around to it I am going to try to normalize the two configurations so I can freely move the GPUs back and forth without any kind of rigmarole. The Strix has the better of the two 9950X CPUs in it, so I should probably swap those out while I am at it. Maybe I will get ambitious when I install the EVC2 mod on the 5090 and do all of that at once.

 

 

Nice!

 

I'll have to give these a once over and see what they do on my Hero x870e and 9800X3D w/ T-Force 8200 sticks and B650i Aorus Ultra  (1DPC) and 9600x.

 

I've just been running 2200/6400 (Hero) and 2000/6000 (Aorus).

 

 

[Papusan]

Where is the equally cheaper 5090's ? Sub $1800 would be much easier to swallow.

 

GeForce RTX 5080 now 10% below MSRP, RTX 5070 and 5060 Ti down 13–14% at MicroCenter

 

 

See also my latest post here..... Everyone should be able to be offered something better from Redmond R***ds.

 

[win32asmguy]

@electrosoft

 

Starting to run the Pro Max 18 Plus through its paces.

 

https://imgur.com/a/32ivRNC

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58934149

 

It has full W10 driver support which is great. Surprisingly enough, WoW runs properly on the P-cores without any micro managing via Process Lasso just like it does on W11. SuperPI also selects the best P-core when run as well so CPPC / Thread Director must be working better now with Arrow Lake.

 

I have heard the GPU can sustain 150W and that leaves around 50-60W for the CPU in combined loads. However when running OCCT while I was working on another project I noticed it was down to 180W combined load after a while. It also was draining the battery (12% over the 1 hour test) so the 200W advertised really is not sustainable or good for battery health. I am hoping the "Optimized" performance mode is one where it keeps limits out of the battery drain range.

[tps3443]

Who would have ever thought that a 5090 even at 0.895mv undervolt still uses over 630 watts for 1080P Furmark! Lol. 
 

 

Furmark is excellent for stability testing very quickly. (If your card is shunt modded that is)
 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Love Steve's opening comment... 🤣

Quote

I hate Microsoft

...and who doesn't that isn't a Kool-Aid drinker? But it is always nice to hear it spoken out loud by an "influencer" on the biggest technology shill platform known to man.

 

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Nice!

 

I'll have to give these a once over and see what they do on my Hero x870e and 9800X3D w/ T-Force 8200 sticks and B650i Aorus Ultra  (1DPC) and 9600x.

 

I've just been running 2200/6400 (Hero) and 2000/6000 (Aorus).

 

 

 

I forgot to add in I have those Kingspec 8400 sticks too that are currently running tight CL28 2000/6000 on the B650i I'll also test.

 

9 hours ago, Papusan said:

Where is the equally cheaper 5090's ? Sub $1800 would be much easier to swallow.

 

GeForce RTX 5080 now 10% below MSRP, RTX 5070 and 5060 Ti down 13–14% at MicroCenter

 

 

See also my latest post here..... Everyone should be able to be offered something better from Redmond R***ds.

 

 

Sheesh, my local MC has 25+ of those 5080s in stock for $899.99.

 

I'm still waiting for 9070xt's to bottom out a bit more to pick up another one for my SFF for testing.

 

8 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Who would have ever thought that a 5090 even at 0.895mv undervolt still uses over 630 watts for 1080P Furmark! Lol. 
 

 

Furmark is excellent for stability testing very quickly. (If your card is shunt modded that is)
 

 

 

 

I have and will continue to avoid Furmark like the plague, but always fun to see others run it for shiggles. 

 

9 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

@electrosoft

 

Starting to run the Pro Max 18 Plus through its paces.

 

https://imgur.com/a/32ivRNC

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58934149

 

It has full W10 driver support which is great. Surprisingly enough, WoW runs properly on the P-cores without any micro managing via Process Lasso just like it does on W11. SuperPI also selects the best P-core when run as well so CPPC / Thread Director must be working better now with Arrow Lake.

 

I have heard the GPU can sustain 150W and that leaves around 50-60W for the CPU in combined loads. However when running OCCT while I was working on another project I noticed it was down to 180W combined load after a while. It also was draining the battery (12% over the 1 hour test) so the 200W advertised really is not sustainable or good for battery health. I am hoping the "Optimized" performance mode is one where it keeps limits out of the battery drain range.

 

Whew, CPU still toasty? What was your final analysis of the Alienware 18 5090 you have (had?) overall and in comparison. WoW on both systems?

 

Full W10 support on the newest hardware is nice! I didn't realize it came with the 285HX either.

 

 

 

[win32asmguy]

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Whew, CPU still toasty? What was your final analysis of the Alienware 18 5090 you have (had?) overall and in comparison. WoW on both systems?

 

Full W10 support on the newest hardware is nice! I didn't realize it came with the 285HX either.

 

Its the default paste job which is not PTM from the looks of it. However it is also not E31 either so we do not have to worry about leaking LM shorting the motherboard. The interesting part about its cooling design is that the vapor chamber sits between the CPU and GPU. The fans can also be removed easily for separate cleaning which is nice. I actually get quite a bit of dust build up on my machines as I am not in a climate controlled environment.

 

Sadly the Alienware is a consumer gaming oriented device so it ends up dragging along all of the stereotypical characteristics that I hate. Performance wise with this generation the Consumer and Business model are very close. Its a more expensive 5090 mobile variant but does offer comparable performance, VRR support in iGPU mode and I think the drivers should work as well as Geforce as long as its not trying to play a new title on launch day.

 

So far WoW has not had any of the weird BDPROCHOT throttling I experienced on the 7670, 7770, or 7780. The iGPU clocks itself at 550mhz under load but I guess that is enough for Optimus and UI snappiness.

[1610ftw]

18 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

@electrosoft

 

Starting to run the Pro Max 18 Plus through its paces.

 

https://imgur.com/a/32ivRNC

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58934149

 

It has full W10 driver support which is great. Surprisingly enough, WoW runs properly on the P-cores without any micro managing via Process Lasso just like it does on W11. SuperPI also selects the best P-core when run as well so CPPC / Thread Director must be working better now with Arrow Lake.

 

I have heard the GPU can sustain 150W and that leaves around 50-60W for the CPU in combined loads. However when running OCCT while I was working on another project I noticed it was down to 180W combined load after a while. It also was draining the battery (12% over the 1 hour test) so the 200W advertised really is not sustainable or good for battery health. I am hoping the "Optimized" performance mode is one where it keeps limits out of the battery drain range.

 

With W10 support and the performance you are getting it looks like a keeper.

 

I am surprised that at 180W combined load with a 280W power supply it still drains the battery, Dell needs to look into that.

 

Is the palm rest still rubbery?

[electrosoft]

Decent video showing once again the power of X3D but more importantly the overall futility of 6000 vs 6400 vs 8000 for AM5 along with the strength of 2DPC boards vs 1DPC with 800 series chipsets....

 

I'd like to see this run back on non X3D chips....

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Decent video showing once again the power of X3D but more importantly the overall futility of 6000 vs 6400 vs 8000 for AM5 along with the strength of 2DPC boards vs 1DPC with 800 series chipsets....

 

I'd like to see this run back on non X3D chips....

 

The weakest link in any Ryzen build is, indeed, the Ryzen CPU and it's defective architectural design. Similar engineering defects are the Achilles Heel of Intel Core Ultra processors and for similar reasons. There has been no meaningful benefit to adopting new CPU and chipset technologies for the past few generations and the clear and unmistakable line of demarcation was the abandonment of monolithic design. All of the virtues of newer being better amount to little more than gaslighting the sheeple.

[johnksss]

On 8/25/2025 at 2:04 AM, cylix said:

 Hahaha,  the   PRO 7995wx is good even Overkill for what is needed it but it was an offer i cannot refuse😆😆.

 

Was in holiday and didnt have time for it. 

 

Still need to optimize and rearange Cables inside, got a 9100 Pro2 TB for that Pcie gen 5. Need more ram and also gpus. Ignore the gtx1050 , it's only for tests. I will need to get an riser 90 degree to fit the gpu inside. 

 

But I love the mainboard,  Asrock wrx90 ws evo,  went with it because the other wrx90 is from Asus and I despise them. More expensive as the asrock and full of problems .Reddit and forums are full of them. STUPID Asus wants over 1k euro for that mainboard and still cannot make it work. 

 

The Asrock is incredible, so many options, bulid like a tank, a lot of connectivity,  bmc remote management is superb. And it booted and did the whole diagnostic and memory training in under 3 minutes. That's good for a complicated platform like the threadripper.I love it. 

 

Use case it will be my homelab brain. Will run a gazillion VMs because Cores are plenty and  I will also start Local AI training. Still need to decide on gpus..maybe I will get some Rtx A series ore Rtx Ada for it. 

You do know Asrock is a spinoff from Asus right?

 

But anyway, I have the one from Asus. WRX90E/Pro 7975WX (Because they say the 9000 series is slower) and this thing takes forever to boot on a cold boot. It sits on 0D for way longer than what I think it should and sometimes longer than 8 minutes before i just hit restart and then it boots hella fast! The machine has a full 256GB memory installed and all channels are full. Also installed are 2 RTX A6000. This was built for AI as well.

 

Just wondering if you ran into any of these problems on the Asrock version as I think their bios is coded differently (Speculations of course)

[Mr. Fox]

On 9/26/2025 at 6:36 AM, Mr. Fox said:

The latest Strix X870E-E BIOS improved the memory tuning slightly. Finally able to get the latency down from about 58ns to below 56ns. Nothing spectacular, but small improvement is better than a small regression. I'll play with retightening the tRCDWR to see if I can eek a little more mojo from it without losing any stability. It's interesting that it's not better, considering the overhyped "Nitropath" gimmick ASUS chirped about and played up to be such a great invention. It has that feature but I've yet to identify any real or tangible value that it added.

 

It is still not as good as the AORUS Master, but I have been too lazy to move the 5090 over to it and install the 4090 in the Strix. I haven't felt like messing with the cooling system and the tubing/fitting orientation is different. When I get around to it I am going to try to normalize the two configurations so I can freely move the GPUs back and forth without any kind of rigmarole. The Strix has the better of the two 9950X CPUs in it, so I should probably swap those out while I am at it. Maybe I will get ambitious when I install the EVC2 mod on the 5090 and do all of that at once.

 

 

On 9/26/2025 at 10:38 AM, electrosoft said:

 

Nice!

 

I'll have to give these a once over and see what they do on my Hero x870e and 9800X3D w/ T-Force 8200 sticks and B650i Aorus Ultra  (1DPC) and 9600x.

 

I've just been running 2200/6400 (Hero) and 2000/6000 (Aorus).

 

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Decent video showing once again the power of X3D but more importantly the overall futility of 6000 vs 6400 vs 8000 for AM5 along with the strength of 2DPC boards vs 1DPC with 800 series chipsets....

 

I'd like to see this run back on non X3D chips....

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The weakest link in any Ryzen build is, indeed, the Ryzen CPU and it's defective architectural design. Similar engineering defects are the Achilles Heel of Intel Core Ultra processors and for similar reasons. There has been no meaningful benefit to adopting new CPU and chipset technologies for the past few generations and the clear and unmistakable line of demarcation was the abandonment of monolithic design. All of the virtues of newer being better amount to little more than gaslighting the sheeple.

Answering the question in the video cover image... No. No, it doesn't matter if you own AMD. Or, at least not much.  I tightened up tRCDWR and it is 100% stable, but it provides nearly zero benefit. The gains are almost too small to measure. Using 14 instead of 28 for tRCDWR provides no meaningful benefit and actually increases latency by about 1ns. After all is said and done, it is mostly (not entirely) irrelevant what you do with Ryzen memory tuning. The effort required and patience needed is very high and the gains are minuscule. The exact opposite of Intel. The reason for doing it should be primarily to show that you are capable rather than demonstrating why you did so. The architecture and the stupidity of having a fabric (or mesh for Intel) interconnect is evident. The concept is fundamentally flawed and a limiting factor.

[Raiderman]