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[Papusan]

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

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For most of us, it is going to be the 800w Matrix vBIOS we run anyhow. It is superior with more granular control. I don't want my 5090 locked at an unnatural 1.15v at all times or trying to suck down the sun and go nova especially lacking the proper cooling for support which realistically is LN2 or at least a chiller.

 

800w Matrix vBIOS is going to end up as the perfect one.

 

Matrix vbios = Gigachad+ 800w

 

 

 

This.

 

Do you plan on attempting to use it @Papusan since you can't flash the Matrix vbios?

 

 

Yowza! Looking forward to some chilled results @Mr. Fox!

 

Crazy the Asus XOC bios just comes out full tilt like that and pretty much goes crazy. +4000 memory and basically all the W and V you probably need. You could always push past 1.15 w/ the EVC2 though....

 

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@Talon now that you have a Suprim 5090 with the Matrix goodness, how is it stacking up against your HOF 5090D in just basic air testing so far?

 

With the Asus XOC and Matrix 800w out in the wild, what are the plans now?

 

 

 

Yup, I will use it. And you can play with the PL slider and curve for the voltage for daily use to reduce the chances for melting connector. Asus really screwed up this gen. And Nvidia should have made it for two power connectors as standard for all 5090's (Because the 5090 ain't a 600W card).

 

And Asus try hiding behind Nvidia's threats to lock out everything that smells oc'ing is a Joke. Nvidia knows what Galax offers with their HOF cards. Nvidia know Galax offer OC tools and XOC firmware. This won't change. But as usual, Asus really don't want offer people what some of the enthusiasts want. 

 

Asus is more a pure a gamer boy brand now. More like Razer. Not a real power house the enthusiasts want from the brand.

 

The BTF design for the limited Edition of the Matrix is a slap in the face for performance enthusiasts. The choice of that card design was meant to to help upsell/marketing of their BTF boards that sell in low quantity. 

[Rage Set]

Hey Guys,

 

Do I buy the 9070XT at MSRP before all hell breaks loose or get an open box 5080 from Newegg that is not returnable at $1000? I am not looking to game really, but I want a card for video editing. I poured over videos on how good the 9070XT is with DR, Blender, but the common theme is to get a 5090 if I want the best all around GPU. 

 

I'm torn on the 5080, because I know the card will be replaced by a 5080 Super/TI, even though it has been delayed or won't come out due to DRAM concerns. 

 

I guess if I go the 9070XT route, I can create an all AMD PC that will work wonders in Linux. Or should I just bite the bullet and buy the cheapest 5090?

[Papusan]

39 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

Hey Guys,

 

Do I buy the 9070XT at MSRP before all hell breaks loose or get an open box 5080 from Newegg that is not returnable at $1000? I am not looking to game really, but I want a card for video editing. I poured over videos on how good the 9070XT is with DR, Blender, but the common theme is to get a 5090 if I want the best all around GPU. 

 

I'm torn on the 5080, because I know the card will be replaced by a 5080 Super/TI, even though it has been delayed or won't come out due to DRAM concerns. 

 

I guess if I go the 9070XT route, I can create an all AMD PC that will work wonders in Linux. Or should I just bite the bullet and buy the cheapest 5090?

 

Maybe try find an cheap open box with 5080. Some got lucky. Sub $700 ain't bad.

 

And some bought trash. 3 or 4 see same problem in the same thread.

 

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Content Creation Review

If you go for the cheapest 5090 you find you may go break even when the next gen is out (no loss when you sell it in the used market). If you are after content creation then you should really look at 5090 or damn cheap 5080. Pick your poison (everything is expencive anyway).

 

 

[Talon]

12 hours ago, electrosoft said:

now that you have a Suprim 5090 with the Matrix goodness, how is it stacking up against your HOF 5090D in just basic air testing so far?

 

With the Asus XOC and Matrix 800w out in the wild, what are the plans now?

 

My Suprim Air is the better card with 800w Matrix vBIOS, but the 5090D with HOF XOC vBIOS is great too. I got all of my water cooling parts together, I still need to block the card lol. Just been lazy. 

 

But the Matrix vBIOS just had something special and it's a better sample chip. But at 800w, I was feeling the cable and it def felt warm, but not sure how much that means. But having the dual 12v2x6 connectors does make me feel good and not have to worry about the cables melting, at least in theory. So I guess I'll daily my Galax card in my main rig, and the Suprim will stay in the living room setup. Honestly such an overkill card, but after I saw the Matrix vBIOS, I wanted to dump that TUF 5090 so fast. Now lol it could have had the XOC, but I still think the Matrix is best for daily. 

Lots of words, prefer the Suprim card, insane cooler, Matrix vBIOS with 800w is ideal, and +4000 mem isn't really useful TBH. But peace of mind with the dual cables has me wanting to stick wtih the HOF, plus it's super unique. 

 

I also had a 5070 Ti Prime but sold that last week too. So 5090s it is until I get bored again. I really do need to put this HOF under water though, ASAP. Especially with the cold days coming this week, I could try and push the card. Maybe go outside and bench in the garage lol. 

[electrosoft]

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am going to have to fire up the chiller tomorrow and play with the power slider to see if I can reign in some of that because pulling 1700W from the wall is not sustainable. It will trip circuit breakers (and I have this on a 20A circuit) and exhausts the capacity of my 1500W UPS. If that does not work will I will just go back to the Matrix vBIOS and use the EVC2. I'm not gonna lie though... I just LOVED seeing that 1.150V default. 

 

For now I just flipped my GPU over to using the stock Zotac 600W vBIOS. I think letting it run wild and free on the XOC vBIOS probably isn't a smart thing to do. It might be safe, but I don't want to just assume that and hope it turns out OK. Temping fate to such an extreme degree (1700W from the wall, probably 1300W from the GPU) with the petite arson PCIe power cable should put the fear of God in all of us that possess an ordinary amount of common sense.

 

Here is something interesting. I use a GPU overclocking program in Linux called LACT. It shows both core and hotspot temperature readings on the 5090. So, maybe the register is actually there and the NVIDIOTS gave Windoze software developers marching orders to not expose it. -?- I think they rank right up there with bad actors like crApple when it comes to being among the kings of command and control dictatorships.

 

I received my Thermal Grizzly GPU die gaskets for liquid metal, so I really need to make time for that. The package comes with 3 for 4090 and 3 for 5090, so I can do both GPUs. I am expecting to get an offer on the job I want most on Monday or Tuesday and I am sure that I am going to initially not have much discretionary time to do things until I get past my orientation, which usually take a bit more time in c-suite positions.

 

Maybe if you can tame the Asus XOC a bit and dial it in like @Papusan is going to take a whack at that might provide a better vBIOS overall but you are shunted and with an EVC2 so it will be interesting to see you test both against each other in a properly chilled environment and see which one rises to the top especially with the Asus XOC you have access to higher memory settings.

 

If Linux has a program that can actually show hotspots on 5090 series, that would be a slap in the face to Windows users yet again. Watching the human centipede that is all this incestuous investing in each other with Nvidia, AMD, OpenAI, Intel and more just shows the relationships at the top with these companies.

 

Good luck on the job offer @Mr. Fox! 

 

7 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, I will use it. And you can play with the PL slider and curve for the voltage for daily use to reduce the chances for melting connector. Asus really screwed up this gen. And Nvidia should have made it for two power connectors as standard for all 5090's (Because the 5090 ain't a 600W card).

 

And Asus try hiding behind Nvidia's threats to lock out everything that smells oc'ing is a Joke. Nvidia knows what Galax offers with their HOF cards. Nvidia know Galax offer OC tools and XOC firmware. This won't change. But as usual, Asus really don't want offer people what some of the enthusiasts want. 

 

Asus is more a pure a gamer boy brand now. More like Razer. Not a real power house the enthusiasts want from the brand.

 

The BTF design for the limited Edition of the Matrix is a slap in the face for performance enthusiasts. The choice of that card design was meant to to help upsell/marketing of their BTF boards that sell in low quantity. 

 

Looking forward to your LC adventures with reigning it in @Papusan!

 

And yeah, I agree 100% with the rest of your post. Asus did have that tiny slice of XOC going and it is a strange coincidence it is 10 months on the nose almost since 5090 release that the XOC officially goes wild everywhere.

 

What is Asus's official position on the XOC bios and it now being available everywhere? Is it a "leak" or did they basically give permission to let it go wild?

 

Until BTF can become a standard, it will remain a segmented niche and probably die off sooner than later. 

 

45 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

Hey Guys,

 

Do I buy the 9070XT at MSRP before all hell breaks loose or get an open box 5080 from Newegg that is not returnable at $1000? I am not looking to game really, but I want a card for video editing. I poured over videos on how good the 9070XT is with DR, Blender, but the common theme is to get a 5090 if I want the best all around GPU. 

 

I'm torn on the 5080, because I know the card will be replaced by a 5080 Super/TI, even though it has been delayed or won't come out due to DRAM concerns. 

 

I guess if I go the 9070XT route, I can create an all AMD PC that will work wonders in Linux. Or should I just bite the bullet and buy the cheapest 5090?

 

 

5080 is a banger of a card, but the price:performance is in the 9070xt's favor if you can snag one at MSRP.

 

5090 is far and away the best that's true.

 

5080 overall is a better card than the 9070xt except the price.

 

They all definitely go "in line" and the price:performance gets worse as you go from the 9070xt (best) -> 5080 (decent if you can score at MSRP or below) -> 5090 (worst by far but an absolute beast).

 

2.5 months ago you could have found a 5090 for $1999.99 on the regular, but that low dip is long gone and now prices are rising. After the holidays it's going to slowly but surely get very rough for all video cards.

 

Microcenter has the Challenger and Reaper 9070xt models in stock for $579.99 each. You can't beat that. That's below MSRP on both. If you want to pony up a bit more for a heartier model, Steel Legends are $619 and Hellhounds are $629. If you have a MC credit card, you will lop off 5% right at the counter making them even better buys.

 

Microcenter has Zotac 5080's for $999.99. They are solid and beefy.

 

I picked up a Nitro+ for $699.99 with 7% back = $650.99 but then yesterday I found an Asrock Challenger 9070xt open box on Microcenter's page for $521.95 and using the MCC card = $495.85 so I snagged that ASAP for pickup.

 

I haven't even opened up the Nitro+ yet (Amazon and returns till January 26th 2026). I'm going to pick up the Asrock and run it through its paces and if it is good enough I'll just send back the Nitro+ unopened. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

My Suprim Air is the better card with 800w Matrix vBIOS, but the 5090D with HOF XOC vBIOS is great too. I got all of my water cooling parts together, I still need to block the card lol. Just been lazy. 

 

But the Matrix vBIOS just had something special and it's a better sample chip. But at 800w, I was feeling the cable and it def felt warm, but not sure how much that means. But having the dual 12v2x6 connectors does make me feel good and not have to worry about the cables melting, at least in theory. So I guess I'll daily my Galax card in my main rig, and the Suprim will stay in the living room setup. Honestly such an overkill card, but after I saw the Matrix vBIOS, I wanted to dump that TUF 5090 so fast. Now lol it could have had the XOC, but I still think the Matrix is best for daily. 

Lots of words, prefer the Suprim card, insane cooler, Matrix vBIOS with 800w is ideal, and +4000 mem isn't really useful TBH. But peace of mind with the dual cables has me wanting to stick wtih the HOF, plus it's super unique. 

 

I agree on the HOF and that peace of mind of dual connectors. Like I said, I'm not doing anything with mine till I get my Wireview Pro 2 whenever they ship (I think those of us who ordered one all did the launch orders at the end of October). Once that comes in, I'll switch over to a 12v2x6 pure run end to end.

 

I like the unique look and design of the HOF. I always have. It's just the price. Same reason I didn't pick up a Matrix 5090 (along with the BTF nonsense).

 

MSI Vanguard and Suprim coolers are pretty bonkers and the Astral cooler is no joke either. I know when I had the Ventus briefly, it routinely sat in the high 60's low 70's just for daily use. Coming off the Astral, I had forgotten even in normal use the 5090 can run pretty warm. I was used to high 50's and sometimes low 60s....

 

What PSU do you run with the HOF?

 

Asus Z890 Strix-A is due for delivery tomorrow. Still on the hunt for a CPU, but I might snag one of the dirt cheap 265k deals offered and get BF6 with it for free.