*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

They will still offer gaming cards😬 8GB cards at premium. Perfect cards for coming Garbage mode in games. Yup, this is progress. The old 980 notebook GPU in my Clevo from 2015 have also 8GB vram buffer but with not as fast cores as the new and modern GPUs in 2026. 11 years of innovation. Heey, yeah I forgot this one from 2014 or 12 years ago... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M This is pathetic.

 

 

AMD's RDNA 4 focus for 2026 will reportedly be one GPU, the Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB

 

In addition to the shift in focus to 8GB cards, the report notes that a 5-10% price increase for Radeon GPUs occurred in January 2026 for AMD's AIB partners purchasing GPU and memory bundles, and another price increase is coming soon. So soon that it could take effect as early as this month, or at the latest in March.

Even the Quadro P5000 MXM in my Dell Precision turdbook has 16GB of vRAM. It is inexcusable that 8GB GPU options exist today. That should only be on the cheapest and lowest tier garbage-class products that are just one step up from integrated graphics.

 

Nothing new is built to last the test of time or deliver maximum performance. Everything is designed to fail, and deliver structured performance limitations, to ensure a never-ending flow of cash.

 

It is remarkably similar to the pharmaceutical industry and practice of medicine. They do not make money on healthy people or cures. Keeping people on meds forever, and follow up doctor visits to renew prescriptions, and creating new medical problems from prolonged consumption of chemicals that require more meds and more medical care is the gift that keeps on giving. They don't want anyone to be healthy because it is bad for business. 

 

PC and electronics hardware companies do not want to manufacture and sell durable consumer products that perform well. They want to sell garbage with a limited lifespan so they can collect more money on upgrades and product refreshes to replace the last generation of trash they sold consumers.

 

Live to pay, pay to live. Just like the old bumper sticker... Ass, gas or grass... nobody rides for free.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Even the Quadro P5000 MXM in my Dell Precision turdbook has 16GB of vRAM. It is inexcusable that 8GB GPU options exist today. That should only be on the cheapest and lowest tier garbage-class products that are just one step up from integrated graphics.

 

One more reason to make Garbage mode in modern games. 

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 SUPER pushed back, RTX 60 mass production could move to 2028

[electrosoft]

17 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Intel put the money into AI focused GPUs. They want their share of the cake before the bubble pops. But max profit from the more expensive workstation cards is also very welcome. 

 

If you are in hope for intel consumer graphics cards meant for gaming, then you can buy Intel CPUs. iGPU  will come with Multi-Frame Generation feature, same as from Nvidia. Nice.

Intel confirms its fight in GPUs against NVIDIA and AMD by hiring Eric Demers to lead the design of its graphics architecture.

Intel has faced uncertainty in the AI sector for the past two years, but yesterday, at Cisco's AI Summit, it sought to dispel any doubts about its continued presence in the GPU market.

 

 

Intel Arc B770, aka Big Battlemage, has reportedly been canceled due to AI
A new report citing sources at Intel is saying that the company has canceled the Intel Arc B770 in favor of the workstation, AI-focused Arc Pro B70.

 

According to a report on XDA, Intel has canceled its plans for a second Battlemage gaming GPU due to a "lack of financial viability."

 

 

 

I don't blame Intel for cancelling B770 at this point of the current GPU cycle with skyrocketing memory prices for consumers and inflated costs for VRAM. I just don't think it is viable right now.

 

I would also redirect short term efforts to suck up all the AI $$ they can while they continue to refine and make substantial gains in the mobile market both CPU and GPU wise and introduce a serious architecture advancement with Nova in the fall.

 

I'm in total agreement with every decision Intel has recently made recently (which is rare) and I think they could be the dominant hand held and mobile laptop force this and next year. Tack on Nova and their own X3D along with serious gains in MT performance? Yeah, things are looking good for Intel IMHO. They're hungry again and clawing their way back with a vengeance. 

 

Ironically, it is AMD who is stagnating at the moment as @Mr. Fox video from Jay lets us know.....

 

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

They are all part of the same circle jerk and worshipping at the same Satanic throne of AI filth.

 

 

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

They will still offer gaming cards😬 8GB cards at premium. Perfect cards for coming Garbage mode in games. Yup, this is progress. The old 980 notebook GPU in my Clevo from 2015 have also 8GB vram buffer but with not as fast cores as the new and modern GPUs in 2026. 11 years of innovation. Heey, yeah I forgot this one from 2014 or 12 years ago with  8GB vram... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M This is pathetic. Not even mid tier cards nowadays can should have more than 8GB vram.

 

 

AMD's RDNA 4 focus for 2026 will reportedly be one GPU, the Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB

 

In addition to the shift in focus to 8GB cards, the report notes that a 5-10% price increase for Radeon GPUs occurred in January 2026 for AMD's AIB partners purchasing GPU and memory bundles, and another price increase is coming soon. So soon that it could take effect as early as this month, or at the latest in March.

 

 

 

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

 

Like I've said since the old forums, corporations are NOT your friend. It is a transactional scenario each and every time. They offer a product you want at a price you will pay. You buy it. End of story.

 

Now it looks like the 6000 series could slip into 2028 

Memory prices are rumored to have a significant bump sooner than later

SSDs continue to rise....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pushed-back-rtx-60-mass-production-could-move-to-2028

 

Right now, if you're in the market for GPUs, RAM or SSDs, (in that order), it is not a good time to buy.

 

Better to stalk the used market or as noted before, get a Microcenter bundle if you need new hardware.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I don't blame Intel for cancelling B770 at this point of the current GPU cycle with skyrocketing memory prices for consumers and inflated costs for VRAM. I just don't think it is viable right now.

 

I would also redirect short term efforts to suck up all the AI $$ they can while they continue to refine and make substantial gains in the mobile market both CPU and GPU wise and introduce a serious architecture advancement with Nova in the fall.

 

I'm in total agreement with every decision Intel has recently made recently (which is rare) and I think they could be the dominant hand held and mobile laptop force this and next year. Tack on Nova and their own X3D along with serious gains in MT performance? Yeah, things are looking good for Intel IMHO. They're hungry again and clawing their way back with a vengeance. 

 

Ironically, it is AMD who is stagnating at the moment as @Mr. Fox video from Jay lets us know.....

 

 

 

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

 

Like I've said since the old forums, corporations are NOT your friend. It is a transactional scenario each and every time. They offer a product you want at a price you will pay. You buy it. End of story.

 

Now it looks like the 6000 series could slip into 2028 

Memory prices are rumored to have a significant bump sooner than later

SSDs continue to rise....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pushed-back-rtx-60-mass-production-could-move-to-2028

 

Right now, if you're in the market for GPUs, RAM or SSDs, (in that order), it is not a good time to buy.

 

Better to stalk the used market or as noted before, get a Microcenter bundle if you need new hardware.

The least they could do is pretend they love us and say nice things while they are choking us and pulling our hair.

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

The question is, "Are there really going to be massive profits?" or are they spending a lot of money on a gamble that may or may not eventually pay off? I am not convinced they are going to make money and may end up drawing back a bloody stump before it's over. I certainly hope so. It would be a real shame if their cash-grabbing nonsense turns out well for them and for their shareholders. I'd much prefer to see financial tragedy visited upon them. Tit for tat.

[Clamibot]

On 2/3/2026 at 11:37 PM, Reciever said:

Hey Guys! 

On the z490-h for now until the replacement motherboard arrives. I have also acquired the GPU risers to split the x16 lane into x8 so I can do 2 GPU's off the single lane via bifurcation. 3090Ti will be coming out of retirement to some degree for Lossless Scaling but in the interim I did test it conceptually with the 3090Ti as raster and the 1080Ti as Frame Gen. 

 

Seems to work pretty well in the couple of titles that I have tested.

 

Allegedly you dont want the Raster GPU to be fully saturated as it increases the time it takes to send the frames to the secondary GPU. Honestly I am pretty surprised how well it worked given the software's price point. 

 

Main game I have tested were Monster Hunter Wilds and Borderlands 4 both games have piss poor engines. I was able to hit 120 FPS in both, B4 did crash a couple of times but I was mucking with the settings as that game cant run without some Scaling or FG. I did also try Horizon: Forbidden West but I should have to the DLC area as its more GPU intensive.

 

For people that dont want to pony up the cash for new GPU's I think this may be a viable option on the table much in the way SLI/Xfire used to be for me in the old days.

Nvidia still pisses me off though. If I install 591 driver, 1080Ti doesnt work, If I install latest driver for 1080Ti (581) then the 3090Ti doesnt work. I have to let windows install 560 in order for both to work until I figure out another way to go about it. 

 

I'm very happy to see a fellow community member using Lossless Scaling in the exact fashion I do. This is something I've been promoting for a while, and I'm happy to see someone else interested in using Lossless Scaling to relive the days of SLI/Crossfire. This really is the way to better performance in games if you're super hungry for those frames but don't want to spend anything on new hardware. We can instead use what we already have!

 

Cluster computing to increase performance in games is awesome. I use a combination of Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight to use two machines to render a game. Being able to take advantage of the combined performance of 2 computers to run your games is awesome!

 

As an experiment, I think I'm going to see if a Tri-SLI/Trifire setup is possible this way. As I haven't tried that sort of a setup yet. I got a Radeon 9070 XT and a Radeon 9060 XT from Micro Center just before prices got to skyrocket, so I was able to get some hardware at those sweet discount prices. The 9060 XT was for my dad, but I'll be installing the 9070 XT in my desktop sometime soon when I find extra time.

 

Currently, my desktop has a Radeon 6950 XT and an RTX 3080. I'm going to install the 9070 XT in my desktop and use that as my new render GPU, then use the RTX 3080 as my frame gen GPU. I'm going to install the 6950 XT in my second desktop (which currently has a GTX 1060) and pass those frames to my second desktop using Apollo + Moonlight, then perform another layer of frame gen on that input using a second instance of Lossless Scaling running on this machine. BAM! Triple GPU rendering baby!

 

With some really awesome newer monitors coming out, I'm going to want the 1000 fps experience in every game, which should be achievable through a triple GPU setup using Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight. I actually really want the Thermaltake Core W200 case for my next build I will inevitably do sometime in the future, but it seems it's nowhere to be found anymore. I may have to just stick with 2 separate cases. Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Clamibot said:

Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?

The Thermaltake Core W200 was an awesome case. I have always wanted one. In the rare circumstance I could even find one they were so ridiculously priced that I could not justify the cost. 

 

There have only been a couple that I am aware of. Even monster cases like the Corsair 1000D Obsidian only support mini-ITX for the second mobo and SFX for the secondary PSU. The Phanteks Enthoo 719 also only supports mini-ITX for the second mobo, but does support two ATX PSUs.

I had a Thermaltake Level 20 XT E-ATX Extreme LCS Capable Split Level Modular Gaming Cube Case CA-1L1-00F1WN-00 that I purchased in 2019. It supported dual ATX PSUs and you could add a second ATX mobo tray. Those are also nowhere to be found. It was not crazy tall, but it was so huge from front to back that the feet would not fit on either of my desks. I had to put it sideways on the desk. It was my favorite case of all time except for the fact that it needed a dedicated desk just for the case. It was so gigantic that I just could not accommodate it in my tiny home office. If I had a bigger office I would never have gotten rid of it. It was amazing.

Spoiler

 

You might just want to go with a server rack setup with two 4U chassis units that each support ATX/E-ATX boards, ATX PSUs and full sized GPUs. Leave the lid off (for GPU power cable clearance if necessary) and leave an empty space between them in the rack.

 

Maybe a couple of units like this: https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rsv-l4500u-black/p/N82E16811147328?Item=N82E16811147328 and mount them in a rack. https://www.newegg.com/p/2BA-01UW-00010

 

 

A more expensive option (maybe not worth it compared to the Rosewill) would be two of these: https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-006F-001D2 mounted in a rack.

 

 

Silverstone also makes an RM51 5U chassis, but you would be looking at $1,000-$1,200 (at the least) for a pair of them and a rack. https://www.provantage.com/silverstone-rm51~7SLST033.htm?source=googleps

 

 

[Reciever]

2 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

I'm very happy to see a fellow community member using Lossless Scaling in the exact fashion I do. This is something I've been promoting for a while, and I'm happy to see someone else interested in using Lossless Scaling to relive the days of SLI/Crossfire. This really is the way to better performance in games if you're super hungry for those frames but don't want to spend anything on new hardware. We can instead use what we already have!

 

Cluster computing to increase performance in games is awesome. I use a combination of Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight to use two machines to render a game. Being able to take advantage of the combined performance of 2 computers to run your games is awesome!

 

As an experiment, I think I'm going to see if a Tri-SLI/Trifire setup is possible this way. As I haven't tried that sort of a setup yet. I got a Radeon 9070 XT and a Radeon 9060 XT from Micro Center just before prices got to skyrocket, so I was able to get some hardware at those sweet discount prices. The 9060 XT was for my dad, but I'll be installing the 9070 XT in my desktop sometime soon when I find extra time.

 

Currently, my desktop has a Radeon 6950 XT and an RTX 3080. I'm going to install the 9070 XT in my desktop and use that as my new render GPU, then use the RTX 3080 as my frame gen GPU. I'm going to install the 6950 XT in my second desktop (which currently has a GTX 1060) and pass those frames to my second desktop using Apollo + Moonlight, then perform another layer of frame gen on that input using a second instance of Lossless Scaling running on this machine. BAM! Triple GPU rendering baby!

 

With some really awesome newer monitors coming out, I'm going to want the 1000 fps experience in every game, which should be achievable through a triple GPU setup using Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight. I actually really want the Thermaltake Core W200 case for my next build I will inevitably do sometime in the future, but it seems it's nowhere to be found anymore. I may have to just stick with 2 separate cases. Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?

 

I did get curious about formal Xfire/SLI + Lossless, if you set Dynamic framerate target then one might be able to mitigate some of the failings of that method of generating preferable framerates. It'll have to wait until I get my replacement motherboard but it would be an interesting experiment.
 

[Papusan]

On 2/5/2026 at 5:24 AM, Mr. Fox said:

They are all part of the same circle jerk and worshipping at the same Satanic throne of AI filth.

 

Do you  need  a new mouse? 🙄 It's inflation in the branding "Limited Edition" nowadays. Razer try also to maximize profits from stupids.

 

Razer plans to sell 1,337 units of its new limited edition gaming mouse for $1,337 each

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Do you  need  a new mouse? 🙄 It's inflation in the branding "Limited Edition" nowadays. Razer try also to maximize profits from stupids.

 

Razer plans to sell 1,337 units of its new limited edition gaming mouse for $1,337 each

 

There is never a shortage of insanely overpriced trash made for the dumbest people in the world. A year or two ago I would not have believed there would be a human being dumb enough to pay that for a mouse, but now I know they are real and there are enough of them to be dangerous to all of the people or ordinary or greater intelligence.

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29556653/

The official msrp value for the Lightning Z. NT$ 165000 ≈ $5200 USD

https://tw.msi.com/Promotion/RTX-5090-LightningZ-drawing/graphics-cards

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That absurdly overpriced publicity stunt needs to be rammed so far up their corporate butt that surgical removal is the only viable option. At the rate things are going, the only customers most of the PC hardware manufacturers are going to have left are idiots of the world.

 

Lmao u cant even buy the card. Its a lottery and ur card isnt even binned. Wouldnt be suprised if there was less than 100 units not the 1300 stated

They won't have a problem finding 100 or 1300 idiots with more money (or credit card limit) than common sense. Instead of a lottery they should require them to enter a fighting contest to determine which ones are given the privilege of being screwed out of $5200 USD.

 

[Papusan]

 

Here's the consumer nothingburger from Intel. Intel have more than enough feeding China with pricy server CPUs. So as you can see, not only Nvidia and AMD are in love with China. Every tech company making microprocessors love China. Corruption and greed around the microprocessor industry have no limits! And none have the balls to stop the madness. 

 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-reportedly-cancels-core-ultra-9-290k-plus-but-keeps-270k-250k-arrow-lake-refresh-skus

 

Based on our information, Intel explains the change as a shift toward performance-per-value. The company plans to keep the Core Ultra 7 270K Plus and Core Ultra 5 250K Plus in its lineup, according to materials shared with partners.

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Here's the consumer nothingburger. Intel have more than enough feeding China with server CPUs. So as you can see, not only Nvidia and AMD are in love with China. Every tech company making microprocessors love China. Corruption and greed around the microprocessor industry have no limits! And none have the balls to stop the madness. 

 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-reportedly-cancels-core-ultra-9-290k-plus-but-keeps-270k-250k-arrow-lake-refresh-skus

 

Based on our information, Intel explains the change as a shift toward performance-per-value. The company plans to keep the Core Ultra 7 270K Plus and Core Ultra 5 250K Plus in its lineup, according to materials shared with partners.

 

 

Considering a corporation's primary mission is responsibility to stock holders and maximum profitability, I'm not shocked.

 

China is a massive market with a gargantuan trade surplus with a voracious need for CPUs and GPUs as they continue to advance technologically. 

 

Match made in heaven.

 

------------------

As for Intel cancelling the 290k...

 

Makes sense considering the 270k is basically a 285k and the 290k would just be a slightly binned 285k. 

 

250k gets 4 more e-cores over the 245k

 

New memory support for the 270k and 250k from 6400 to 7200.....

 

I expect the 270k to come in priced right in between the 285k and 265k. Performance per value gets a nice bump.

 

There is also the possibility Intel had yield issues with the 290k but that's pure speculation...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

I thought this was a good (and accurate) assessment of the situation. We are getting screwed just because the industry is run by opportunistic trash scumbags and they are doing it just because they can. What goes around comes around and payback is going to be a real b**** for all of them before its over. Once the illogical AI slop build-out has run its course they are not going to have a product to sell because there is will be not enough demand for it at the inflated price and they'll have to roll back prices to mid-2025 levels or go out of business. AI is not bad. AI development companies are bad. Their motives and methods are wicked and they will reap what they are sowing.

[Rage Set]

While I missed the boat on the best pricing for 8000MT+ RAM, I am happy I spent the 150 to 180 for each of the nine 4TB NVMe SSDs I got over 2025. I went nuts on the Acer GM7000 SSDs. 

 

I did a quick calculation, I have over 100TBs in SSDs (spread across 8TB, 4TB, 2TB and 1TB drives) in operation. If I were to buy them in today's prices, I'd have to spend over 30K. Damn! 

 

I guess being a frugal data hoarder has it benefits once in awhile. 

[jaybee83]

On 2/5/2026 at 3:03 PM, Papusan said:

 

They will still offer gaming cards😬 8GB cards at premium. Perfect cards for coming Garbage mode in games. Yup, this is progress. The old 980 notebook GPU in my Clevo from 2015 have also 8GB vram buffer but with not as fast cores as the new and modern GPUs in 2026. 11 years of innovation. Heey, yeah I forgot this one from 2014 or 12 years ago with  8GB vram... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M This is pathetic. Not even mid tier cards nowadays can should have more than 8GB vram.

 

 

AMD's RDNA 4 focus for 2026 will reportedly be one GPU, the Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB

 

In addition to the shift in focus to 8GB cards, the report notes that a 5-10% price increase for Radeon GPUs occurred in January 2026 for AMD's AIB partners purchasing GPU and memory bundles, and another price increase is coming soon. So soon that it could take effect as early as this month, or at the latest in March.

 

 

 

On 2/5/2026 at 7:18 PM, Papusan said:

 

One more reason to make Garbage mode in modern games. 

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 SUPER pushed back, RTX 60 mass production could move to 2028

 

On 2/5/2026 at 7:21 PM, electrosoft said:

 

I don't blame Intel for cancelling B770 at this point of the current GPU cycle with skyrocketing memory prices for consumers and inflated costs for VRAM. I just don't think it is viable right now.

 

I would also redirect short term efforts to suck up all the AI $$ they can while they continue to refine and make substantial gains in the mobile market both CPU and GPU wise and introduce a serious architecture advancement with Nova in the fall.

 

I'm in total agreement with every decision Intel has recently made recently (which is rare) and I think they could be the dominant hand held and mobile laptop force this and next year. Tack on Nova and their own X3D along with serious gains in MT performance? Yeah, things are looking good for Intel IMHO. They're hungry again and clawing their way back with a vengeance. 

 

Ironically, it is AMD who is stagnating at the moment as @Mr. Fox video from Jay lets us know.....

 

 

 

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

 

Like I've said since the old forums, corporations are NOT your friend. It is a transactional scenario each and every time. They offer a product you want at a price you will pay. You buy it. End of story.

 

Now it looks like the 6000 series could slip into 2028 

Memory prices are rumored to have a significant bump sooner than later

SSDs continue to rise....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pushed-back-rtx-60-mass-production-could-move-to-2028

 

Right now, if you're in the market for GPUs, RAM or SSDs, (in that order), it is not a good time to buy.

 

Better to stalk the used market or as noted before, get a Microcenter bundle if you need new hardware.

 

 

 

 

 

 

16 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Do you  need  a new mouse? 🙄 It's inflation in the branding "Limited Edition" nowadays. Razer try also to maximize profits from stupids.

 

Razer plans to sell 1,337 units of its new limited edition gaming mouse for $1,337 each

 

 

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

While I missed the boat on the best pricing for 8000MT+ RAM, I am happy I spent the 150 to 180 for each of the nine 4TB NVMe SSDs I got over 2025. I went nuts on the Acer GM7000 SSDs. 

 

I did a quick calculation, I have over 100TBs in SSDs (spread across 8TB, 4TB, 2TB and 1TB drives) in operation. If I were to buy them in today's prices, I'd have to spend over 30K. Damn! 

 

I guess being a frugal data hoarder has it benefits once in awhile. 

 

my dudes, we can consider ourselves lucky to have covered all our bases with regards to hardware. our 4090s/5090s will stay at the top of the pack until 2028, lets just hope they dont go up in flames / melt until then 🤣 boy am i glad that i got my 32TB of pcie4 m.2 ssds plus took care of the ram binning with 10+ kits back in the summer of last year. prices were at rock bottom then ("good old times"). and even though i overpaid for my 5090 at +25% above minimum pricing (3300€ vs. 2650€ incl. 19% VAT and shipping), a whopping two thirds of it (2100€) was made up by the sale price of the 4090 😅 besides, even when the suprim currently IS available, its offered at 4000+€, absolutely insane...

 

long story short: i guess compared to other unlucky users who are currently planning on building a rig, were pretty well off at least for the time being...always good to count and be generally aware of your blessings 🫠

 

mixed news on the ram tuning front: still cannot reach anything above 7600 stable but at 7600 im now reaching way way tighter timings than before, actually best ive had thus far overall on this mobo. final results pending, as u all know ram tuning takes quite a while...

[Papusan]

22 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Do you  need  a new mouse? 🙄 It's inflation in the branding "Limited Edition" nowadays. Razer try also to maximize profits from stupids.

 

Razer plans to sell 1,337 units of its new limited edition gaming mouse for $1,337 each

 

 

Not everyday I see the editors/writers from Pcworld use their brain.

If you buy Razer’s insane $1337 mouse, I will be very disappointed in you

I remember the first time I bought a Razer mouse. Inside the box was a letter printed on fancy vellum paper. It opened with, “Welcome to the cult of Razer.” It appears that this isn’t just a cheeky marketing slogan, Razer means it genuinely. Because only brainwashed cult members would pay $1337 for a mouse.

 

 

It is, in a word, repugnant. In a more accessible word, it’s greedy. In a more all-encompassing and entirely appropriate word, the Razer Boomslang 20th Anniversary Edition is bullshit.

 

Razer is taking pre-orders for the mouse in four days. If you buy one, and I want you to imagine this in the most overbearing and judgmental dad voice possible, I will be very disappointed in you.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Not everyday I see the editors/writers from Pcworld use their brain.

If you buy Razer’s insane $1337 mouse, I will be very disappointed in you

I remember the first time I bought a Razer mouse. Inside the box was a letter printed on fancy vellum paper. It opened with, “Welcome to the cult of Razer.” It appears that this isn’t just a cheeky marketing slogan, Razer means it genuinely. Because only brainwashed cult members would pay $1337 for a mouse.

 

 

It is, in a word, repugnant. In a more accessible word, it’s greedy. In a more all-encompassing and entirely appropriate word, the Razer Boomslang 20th Anniversary Edition is bullshit.

 

Razer is taking pre-orders for the mouse in four days. If you buy one, and I want you to imagine this in the most overbearing and judgmental dad voice possible, I will be very disappointed in you.

 

 

PCWorld generally is not a good resource for useful technical information. I am not interested in the biased thoughts and personal opinions of their editors. I only care about what I think and seeing how many others share my opinions.

 

It used to be a good source, but not for a long time. They do not allow readers to comment on their reviews and articles, which delegitimizes them in my opinion. I think any media outlet that does not allow readers to comment to support or rebut has an agenda of some sort and they want to control the narrative. 

 

I posted my thoughts on the TweakTown article yesterday. 

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, Rage Set said:

While I missed the boat on the best pricing for 8000MT+ RAM, I am happy I spent the 150 to 180 for each of the nine 4TB NVMe SSDs I got over 2025. I went nuts on the Acer GM7000 SSDs. 

 

I did a quick calculation, I have over 100TBs in SSDs (spread across 8TB, 4TB, 2TB and 1TB drives) in operation. If I were to buy them in today's prices, I'd have to spend over 30K. Damn! 

 

I guess being a frugal data hoarder has it benefits once in awhile. 

 

I managed to lay in a nice array of 500gb, 1tb and a few 2tb nvme drives, but I'm kicking myself for not jumping on a few 4tb drives last year. That was a good snag!

 

You also managed to snag your 9070xt and 5070ti for damn good prices before the market went to poo too......

 

 

 

8 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

my dudes, we can consider ourselves lucky to have covered all our bases with regards to hardware. our 4090s/5090s will stay at the top of the pack until 2028, lets just hope they dont go up in flames / melt until then 🤣 boy am i glad that i got my 32TB of pcie4 m.2 ssds plus took care of the ram binning with 10+ kits back in the summer of last year. prices were at rock bottom then ("good old times"). and even though i overpaid for my 5090 at +25% above minimum pricing (3300€ vs. 2650€ incl. 19% VAT and shipping), a whopping two thirds of it (2100€) was made up by the sale price of the 4090 😅 besides, even when the suprim currently IS available, its offered at 4000+€, absolutely insane...

 

long story short: i guess compared to other unlucky users who are currently planning on building a rig, were pretty well off at least for the time being...always good to count and be generally aware of your blessings 🫠

 

mixed news on the ram tuning front: still cannot reach anything above 7600 stable but at 7600 im now reaching way way tighter timings than before, actually best ive had thus far overall on this mobo. final results pending, as u all know ram tuning takes quite a while...

 

This is how I view it. I've locked down all the hardware I'm going to need to ride out this hardware Armageddon. If the 5090 wants to remain the top dog to 2028? I'm you're huckleberry. 🙂

Snagging a 1.125v Vanguard 5090 for $1971USD that turned out to be superior to both my Astral and Ventus and no coil whine is still the pinnacle of my hardware wins in a plethora of wins hunting down open box / refurb deals over the years. Getting to ride it into 2028? Priceless.....

 

As for other hardware.....

 

9850X3D is a snoozefest. I'm not seeing the 9950X3D2 being anything magical unless they have somehow fixed that CCD0 to CCD1 latency issues for gaming.

 

AM6 isn't launching till later this year or even early 2027

Novalake isn't launching till late 2026 or even early 2027 too

Nvidia 6000 till 2028...

AMD RDNA5 not till mid 2027 but I suspect late 2027

Intel basically cancelled their B770 so we don't know what they have planned for future desktop GPUs

 

Basically team, settle in with your hardware and enjoy!

 

There is nothing on my want list till Nova and potentially AM6 (I'm more excited for Nova than AM6 atm) and that's it.....

 

7600 is the threshold for >=6000 tier performance so you're good in that aspect especially being able to get those tight timings.

 

Maybe dial in 6000 and 7600 and see which one gives you the better performance.

 

While it isn't mind blowing on my end, 8000 dialed in > 6000 and 6400 dialed in across the board even if miniscule so I'm sticking with that.

 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Not everyday I see the editors/writers from Pcworld use their brain.

If you buy Razer’s insane $1337 mouse, I will be very disappointed in you

I remember the first time I bought a Razer mouse. Inside the box was a letter printed on fancy vellum paper. It opened with, “Welcome to the cult of Razer.” It appears that this isn’t just a cheeky marketing slogan, Razer means it genuinely. Because only brainwashed cult members would pay $1337 for a mouse.

 

 

It is, in a word, repugnant. In a more accessible word, it’s greedy. In a more all-encompassing and entirely appropriate word, the Razer Boomslang 20th Anniversary Edition is bullshit.

 

Razer is taking pre-orders for the mouse in four days. If you buy one, and I want you to imagine this in the most overbearing and judgmental dad voice possible, I will be very disappointed in you.

 

 

 

Just like there are Asus and Apple  fan boys, there are Razer fan boys and you know some are going to buy this......

 

I'm a firm believer that someone's disposable income is theirs to buy whatever tickles their fancy, but I'm also silently judging hardcore based on my own biases and purchasing criteria 🤣

 

As with all things like this, I will seek out a Youtube video on it and live vicariously though that and I'm good....

 

 

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I managed to lay in a nice array of 500gb, 1tb and a few 2tb nvme drives, but I'm kicking myself for not jumping on a few 4tb drives last year. That was a good snag!

 

You also managed to snag your 9070xt and 5070ti for damn good prices before the market went to poo too......

 

This is how I view it. I've locked down all the hardware I'm going to need to ride out this hardware Armageddon. If the 5090 wants to remain the top dog to 2028? I'm you're huckleberry. 🙂

Snagging a 1.125v Vanguard 5090 for $1971USD that turned out to be superior to both my Astral and Ventus and no coil whine is still the pinnacle of my hardware wins in a plethora of wins hunting down open box / refurb deals over the years. Getting to ride it into 2028? Priceless.....

 

As for other hardware.....

 

9850X3D is a snoozefest. I'm not seeing the 9950X3D2 being anything magical unless they have somehow fixed that CCD0 to CCD1 latency issues for gaming.

 

AM6 isn't launching till later this year or even early 2027

Novalake isn't launching till late 2026 or even early 2027 too

Nvidia 6000 till 2028...

AMD RDNA5 not till mid 2027 but I suspect late 2027

Intel basically cancelled their B770 so we don't know what they have planned for future desktop GPUs

 

Basically team, settle in with your hardware and enjoy!

 

There is nothing on my want list till Nova and potentially AM6 (I'm more excited for Nova than AM6 atm) and that's it.....

 

7600 is the threshold for >=6000 tier performance so you're good in that aspect especially being able to get those tight timings.

 

Maybe dial in 6000 and 7600 and see which one gives you the better performance.

 

While it isn't mind blowing on my end, 8000 dialed in > 6000 and 6400 dialed in across the board even if miniscule so I'm sticking with that.

 

Just like there are Asus and Apple  fan boys, there are Razer fan boys and you know some are going to buy this......

 

I'm a firm believer that someone's disposable income is theirs to buy whatever tickles their fancy, but I'm also silently judging hardcore based on my own biases and purchasing criteria 🤣

 

As with all things like this, I will seek out a Youtube video on it and live vicariously though that and I'm good....

 

youre probably referring to Zen 6? AM6 is still waaay waaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out... zen 6 on AM5 is basically set, with Zen 7 having a decent probability of also still being on AM5. so AM6 will only come our way once Zen 8 drops. 

Zen 6 = 2026/27

Zen 7 = 2027/28

Zen 8 / AM6 = 2029+?

 

thatll be quite a solid run for my X670E platform here, 2022 to 2029, nice 😄 

 

btw ill need to check my LM / TIM paste jobs, core deltas are waaaay too high for my taste. im guessing my LM application was a bit too thin this time around.

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

youre probably referring to Zen 6? AM6 is still waaay waaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out... zen 6 on AM5 is basically set, with Zen 7 having a decent probability of also still being on AM5. so AM6 will only come our way once Zen 8 drops. 

Zen 6 = 2026/27

Zen 7 = 2027/28

Zen 8 / AM6 = 2029+?

 

thatll be quite a solid run for my X670E platform here, 2022 to 2029, nice 😄 

 

btw ill need to check my LM / TIM paste jobs, core deltas are waaaay too high for my taste. im guessing my LM application was a bit too thin this time around.

 

Obvi Zen 6..... 🤣

 

One thing we can always give AMD is socket longevity. Intel could learn a thing or two. Remember Skylake? Trying to lock out processors on the same socket with bumps to chipsets.....how the mighty have fallen (but clawing their way back with a vengeance)

 

Hey, as long as you don't murder this chip this time around, it's a win win! 🤣

 

 

 

[Rage Set]

14900KS + 9700XT - 14900KS is in Extreme mode. Yes, my memory sticks are mixed, lol. The PC is located in my basement office - which I keep frozen. Ambient is 20 to 25F. 

 

Stock: Timespy - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61860414 

It's okay, middle of the road performance. Graphic Score: 29578 

The CPU is all over the place.

 

Stock with only a -100mV offset on the core: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61860626

Still middle of the road performance, but the GS jumped nearly 1500 points. Graphic Score: 31075

 

Results: AMD is drunk. 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Obvi Zen 6..... 🤣

 

One thing we can always give AMD is socket longevity

 

Yep, more than what they do for their GPU division..... 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Rage Set said:

14900KS + 9700XT - 14900KS is in Extreme mode. Yes, my memory sticks are mixed, lol. The PC is located in my basement office - which I keep frozen. Ambient is 20 to 25F. 

 

Stock: Timespy - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61860414 

It's okay, middle of the road performance. Graphic Score: 29578 

The CPU is all over the place.

 

Stock with only a -100mV offset on the core: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61860626

Still middle of the road performance, but the GS jumped nearly 1500 points. Graphic Score: 31075

 

Results: AMD is drunk. 

Which 9070 XT do you have, Brother @Rage Set. (I think you mentioned it before but I do not remember.)

I got bored and decided to mess with slower memory speeds to see how fast I could make it go. This is stable so I will see how low I can get tCL before it unravels. 6400 1:1 is snappy feeling even though it is a bit slower on read/write/copy.

[Reciever]

So just happened on a listing for an EKWB EVGA 3090Ti for 70 USD on ebay. Looks like its still NIB guy never used it I guess. Im trying to think of my replacement motherboard as "Showing up sometime this month", ETA is Feb 9th-22nd. 

 

Havent been able to much anything this week, been really busy with work.

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

So just happened on a listing for an EKWB EVGA 3090Ti for 70 USD on ebay. Looks like its still NIB guy never used it I guess. Im trying to think of my replacement motherboard as "Showing up sometime this month", ETA is Feb 9th-22nd. 

 

Havent been able to much anything this week, been really busy with work.

 

You better snag that 3090 Ti while you can. Hopefully it is not a scam. If it is not that is an insanely good deal. If you are not going to buy it, I will.