Mr. Fox Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 Maybe (hopefully) things will collapse sooner than expected. May they all burn brightly as they turn to ashes while we lock arms and sing Hallelujah to celebrate their calamity. Huang, Nadella and Altman need to go to jail and lose everything. Crucify them. 2 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11 XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | XT M3 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM 13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: With a proper BIOS this is a really nice motherboard. Svet has provided updates with every official MSI release and added feature modules that were not even present for unlocking in the stock BIOS. I had him add a custom boot logo I created to replace the ugly MSI dragon boot logo. "Empowered" LMAO. 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
electrosoft Posted Wednesday at 08:50 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:50 PM On 3/28/2026 at 5:13 PM, win32asmguy said: To be completely honest that is a tough one. I also tested out the Micro Center Raider 18 with 285HX, 5090m and 1600p 240hz. While it does have the advanced bios available I ran into issues with its audio getting distorted under combined loads, very high temperatures (over 110C on the stock system memory) and eventual crashes under load that needed an EC reset to recover. Maybe just a bad sample? Maybe single rank memory would run cooler or just something about the Micron 32GB modules? Although I found many others had similar issues on MSI's Global Forums with 2025 Intel Vector/Raider/Titan models... Today's project has been turning the media center back into a gaming machine for use on our 4k living room TV for my wife. We picked up one of those Midnight edition 5070 GPU's at Micro Center which seems to perform fine. With the 285K in 200S boost mode with the 48GB memory at 8000 CL40 WoW we are seeing 100fps running around Silvermoon without RT enabled. I need to find a nicer looking ATX case that has space for 3x3.5 inch HDDs and preferably a single 5.25 inch Bluray drive. The Fractal Design Define R7 XL is far too big for the space we have available under the TV. Yeah, I continue to look and it will take something major to pry this free Alienware 18 out of my hands because it runs so quiet and only comes to life under gaming/heavy loads and even then it is quieter than the previous MSI. I was wondering how the newer Raider did under load conditions and when pressed. How were the CPU/GPU temps? Memory temps look absolutely dismal. I'm sure under those conditions it was extremely loud. On paper, it looks ideal with a 285hx, 5090, 1600p but if it uses anything close to the same fans as the previous iteration.....yikes. You know they always say couples who WoW together......Does the media center have it on display to see or is it hidden away behind a panel? I contemplated picking up the Midnight darker edition for a build out they look so cool for the wife who immediately loved the darker version for her case. She passed her 5 year anniversary back in September (she started playing during the pandemic out of sheer boredom) playing WoW and is officially more hardcore than I am. She routinely clears ALL the content weekly and that is with working a full time job too. Weekends she is locked into Azzeroth with laser focus lol...she gets up before I do, so I make her cafe con leche the night before and place it on her timer warming pad so she's able to get up and rock and roll the Saturday and Sunday mornings... 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
electrosoft Posted Thursday at 07:05 PM Posted Thursday at 07:05 PM https://videocardz.com/newz/chinese-memory-stockpilers-start-to-panic-as-falling-prices-leave-them-stuck-with-modules "Reports from Shenzhen’s Huaqiangbei market say traders and resellers that bought DDR5 in bulk during the run-up are now struggling to clear inventory, with some sellers cutting prices quickly to avoid being left with stock that keeps losing value. Yicai says some new 16GB DDR5 sticks that..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Microcenter with 270k "coming soon" already marking down the $349 to $329 while still not putting stock out (they haven't been listed for sale yet since launch) to push as many combos and in house prebuilts as possible.....yuck. I cancelled my combo deal as it made no sense as all I want is the damn CPU and no desire for another MB or trash 2x16GB DDR5 memory. I'll just wait till they drop back to $299.99. Newegg is flush with them now as is Amazon as expected after that initial FOMO rush.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Top end mobile Nova Lake HX will finally differentiate core count wise from desktop for the first time since 11th gen due to the sheer size and power draw of all those cores. We're moving into Nvidia mobile land now but what else can you do? Mobile Nova Lake HX will have half the overall P core count as top end Nova Lake Desktop (8 vs 16) and 28 cores overall vs 52 on desktop. " The new leak suggests Nova Lake-HX will not mirror the desktop configuration. As previously reported, Nova Lake-S for desktops is rumored to scale up to 52 cores, combining 16 P-cores and 32 E-cores. The mobile variant is said to be more conservative, topping out at 8 P-cores and 16 E-cores. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looks like iBOT does tinker with the binary code of applications.... https://videocardz.com/newz/geekbench-says-intel-bot-rewrites-benchmark-code-geekbench-6-7-will-detect-optimized-runs I'm ok with this for non benchmark applications and Intel finding ways to optimize games and applications over time, but "optimizing" benchmarks is a grey area I'm not too comfortable with if this is true.... 1 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
win32asmguy Posted Friday at 12:37 AM Posted Friday at 12:37 AM On 4/1/2026 at 2:50 PM, electrosoft said: Yeah, I continue to look and it will take something major to pry this free Alienware 18 out of my hands because it runs so quiet and only comes to life under gaming/heavy loads and even then it is quieter than the previous MSI. I was wondering how the newer Raider did under load conditions and when pressed. How were the CPU/GPU temps? Memory temps look absolutely dismal. I'm sure under those conditions it was extremely loud. On paper, it looks ideal with a 285hx, 5090, 1600p but if it uses anything close to the same fans as the previous iteration.....yikes. You know they always say couples who WoW together......Does the media center have it on display to see or is it hidden away behind a panel? I contemplated picking up the Midnight darker edition for a build out they look so cool for the wife who immediately loved the darker version for her case. She passed her 5 year anniversary back in September (she started playing during the pandemic out of sheer boredom) playing WoW and is officially more hardcore than I am. She routinely clears ALL the content weekly and that is with working a full time job too. Weekends she is locked into Azzeroth with laser focus lol...she gets up before I do, so I make her cafe con leche the night before and place it on her timer warming pad so she's able to get up and rock and roll the Saturday and Sunday mornings... Actually, after I took the MSI back to micro center they asked if I wanted to exchange for anything so I got one of their open box a51-18 with the 5090. After I got that one home and a few tools installed I found that it came with dual rank hynix a-die csodimms. I want to see what those sticks can do, maybe even testing them out in the hydroc g2 which is easier to tune memory with. I also can confirm that UMAF still works with the latest 2.xx bios and have had D2D and NGU running at a more proper 30x. The memory modules also peaked at 90C when running OCCT. Much cooler than the MSI raider 18 and closer to what I see with the hydroc using single rank modules. The midnight dark edition card is definitely a looker. I'd need to get a riser to show it off in the case as well but it may look a bit goofy contrasted with the white pcb z890 apex. Next id probably end up looking for a deal on a z890 unify or something... I don't know how she can keep up with all of the weekly activities. I barely have time to get my daily knowledge points and try to get enough stuff completed to get some hero track gear. 1 1 Desktop - Intel 285K, Asus Z890 Apex, 48GB DDR5-8400 C36, 800GB Optane P5800X, Corsair HX1500i, Fractal Define 7 XL, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Lenovo Legion 9i G10 - 275HX, 2x32GB Kingston Fury DDR5-5200 CL38, 4TB WD 8100, RTX 5090 mobile, 18.0 inch FHD+ 440hz IPS, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Hydroc G2 / Uniwill IDY X6AR559Y - 275HX, 2x16GB DDR5-6400 CL38, 4TB WD SN850X, RTX 5090 mobile, 16.0 inch QHD+ 300hz MiniLED, Windows 11 Pro 24H2
electrosoft Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Forgot to follow up on the EVGA PSU RMA... I ended up having to pay return shipping. It was a snafu in the original RMA saying a prepaid label would be provided. Ah well..... So I got my EVGA replacement PSU in today and in MSI fashion (which replaced my AI1300 platinum with a MEG AI1600T), they sent me a SuperNova 1600w Titanium T6 to replace my Platinum 1600w P2 which I've never even heard of before. It has 9x PCIe connectors. Model #220-T6-1600-B1 (but with the 10yr warranty still intact). Has anyone heard of this particular model? -------------------------- 9950X3D2 runs toasty or EK trying to pump up business? EK is recommending water cooling to extract full performance.... 3 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
Mr. Fox Posted Friday at 07:54 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:54 PM 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: Forgot to follow up on the EVGA PSU RMA... I ended up having to pay return shipping. It was a snafu in the original RMA saying a prepaid label would be provided. Ah well..... So I got my EVGA replacement PSU in today and in MSI fashion (which replaced my AI1300 platinum with a MEG AI1600T), they sent me a SuperNova 1600w Titanium T6 to replace my Platinum 1600w P2 which I've never even heard of before. It has 9x PCIe connectors. Model #220-T6-1600-B1 (but with the 10yr warranty still intact). Has anyone heard of this particular model? -------------------------- 9950X3D2 runs toasty or EK trying to pump up business? EK is recommending water cooling to extract full performance.... I think they have had that PSU for a while but super expensive and hard to find. I remember seeing it on their web site but it was never in stock. I do not remember seeing it for sale in retail channels, only the Platinum 1600W. That is a sweet upgrade and well worth the return shipping cost. I suspect EK is trying to pump up business, but honestly... water cooling is the only good solution for anything more than 8C/16T processors (both Intel and AMD) and the best solution for any desktop that isn't a SFF hotbox with no room for something better. Trying to air cool any overclocked high end CPU with 8 or more cores/threads with air or a cheap AIO is going to produce a lackluster result. So, to me they are simply stating the obvious, not something new, specific or unique to the 9950X3D2. 1 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11 XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | XT M3 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Mr. Fox Posted Saturday at 04:14 AM Author Posted Saturday at 04:14 AM I snagged a great deal on a G.SKILL 8400 48GB kit and another Supercool direct touch memory cooler for $435 shipped. I popped the sticks in place of the Kingbank 8400 48GB kit running in the B850MPOWER and it booted right up and runs flawlessly. I think I am going to order a cheap 360MM radiator on Amazon and use my IceMan AM5 direct die block and run a custom loop instead of the Lian Li AIO on my SFF monster. I've got a spare Alphacool D5 pump and res that I am confident will fit between the GPU and front panel fans. Running a custom loop in such a small chassis is going to be pretty sweet. https://www.overclock.net/threads/bunch-of-48gb-ddr5-kits-accessories.1819174/?post_id=29575067#post-29575067 Everyone have a pleasant holiday weekend. Happy Easter. 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11 XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | XT M3 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted Saturday at 03:46 PM Posted Saturday at 03:46 PM Sometimes this is why I love this hobby. O it's no supposed to work Intel? Lets see about that. 2 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Mr. Fox Posted Saturday at 04:46 PM Author Posted Saturday at 04:46 PM 1 hour ago, Talon said: Sometimes this is why I love this hobby. O it's no supposed to work Intel? Lets see about that. Beautiful. Who ended up doing the BIOS mod for you? Did they explain what they had to do in order for it to work? Have you encountered any software or game issues? Once in a great while I find a game or a driver pitches a fit about my EPYC 4585PX CPU not being "supported" LOL. In ever way it is just a better 9950X3D silicon sample except for its name. Thankfully that is very seldom. On one hand, it is super cool that we can sometimes bypass stupid roadblocks that bastards at Intel, AMD and NVIDIA throw in our path. On the other hand, their contempt for the people that keep their lights on and their bank accounts in the black defies logic and speaks to how exceeding corrupt all of them are. The technology space is one of the few industries where companies can get away with treating customers like $hit and stay solvent. 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11 XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | XT M3 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted Saturday at 05:15 PM Posted Saturday at 05:15 PM 18 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Beautiful. Who ended up doing the BIOS mod for you? Did they explain what they had to do in order for it to work? Have you encountered any software or game issues? Once in a great while I find a game or a driver pitches a fit about my EPYC 4585PX CPU not being "supported" LOL. In ever way it is just a better 9950X3D silicon sample except for its name. Thankfully that is very seldom. On one hand, it is super cool that we can sometimes bypass stupid roadblocks that bastards at Intel, AMD and NVIDIA throw in our path. On the other hand, their contempt for the people that keep their lights on and their bank accounts in the black defies logic and speaks to how exceeding corrupt all of them are. The technology space is one of the few industries where companies can get away with treating customers like $hit and stay solvent. Kryptonfly over at overclock.net did this BIOS mod using AI. Imagine that, AI did something useful for a change LMAO. He managed to do the BIOS edits using Claude which is just incredible and crazy. It's still a work in progress, getting into the BIOS menu is only possible on first boot, unless you CPU swap/re-insert 273PQE. This will hopefully be solved soon as it's making tuning/testing things a pain as you get one shot and if it breaks the boot, you cannot get back in until you do the process over again. I'm thinking about just getting a heavy metal pot and resting on the CPU while testing. I think that might work and would make testing much faster. So far I've only tested Battlefield 6, and it works beautifully. All cores boost properly to 5.4Ghz locked which is more than adequate for this chip. Speaking of boost, right now single core boost to 5.9Ghz is not working, but that might just be me needing to change a bios option. Will keep testing. I got a little heavy handed on first boot and wanted to change everything, and it got fussy at either C-States or XMP, my guess is XMP. It might be one of those FSP-M issues where I can only use manual tuning for memory, XMP might be a no fly zone. As long as I can tune memory, this chip will be awesome. So far I've booted 5600 Jedec 2x32gb, which is nicely above the 4800 I was locked to on my Industrial W680 board. Guess I can send that back lmao. Will report further findings as I figure them out. For now though, am loving this chip on Z790. 1 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
win32asmguy Posted Saturday at 05:38 PM Posted Saturday at 05:38 PM 1 hour ago, Talon said: Sometimes this is why I love this hobby. O it's no supposed to work Intel? Lets see about that. Very cool. This makes me wonder if Coreboot could boot this chip too. I still have the MSI Pro Z690-A that supports Dashero. Might try hacking support in once summer hits and things calm down at work. Why Intel did not make a 10 P-core 12th Gen chip and 12 P-core 13th+ Gen chip is beyond me. Its not like 10850 and 10900K were poor sellers so far as I remember. Their team even binned that set of Golden Samples for LTT. It really shows just how much the company has shifted in the past few years. I guess Sapphire Rapids could have been considered a viable alternative to this but then you have to deal with mesh binning and the extra latency from registered memory. 1 1 Desktop - Intel 285K, Asus Z890 Apex, 48GB DDR5-8400 C36, 800GB Optane P5800X, Corsair HX1500i, Fractal Define 7 XL, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Lenovo Legion 9i G10 - 275HX, 2x32GB Kingston Fury DDR5-5200 CL38, 4TB WD 8100, RTX 5090 mobile, 18.0 inch FHD+ 440hz IPS, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Hydroc G2 / Uniwill IDY X6AR559Y - 275HX, 2x16GB DDR5-6400 CL38, 4TB WD SN850X, RTX 5090 mobile, 16.0 inch QHD+ 300hz MiniLED, Windows 11 Pro 24H2
Mr. Fox Posted Saturday at 08:11 PM Author Posted Saturday at 08:11 PM Brother @Papusan I hope the weather has improved so you can enjoy your vacation. How are things going? 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11 XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | XT M3 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Papusan Posted Saturday at 08:11 PM Posted Saturday at 08:11 PM Intel's Samsung trashphone moment.... Intel BOT Optimization Tool Uses Vectorization, Raises Benchmark Fairness Questions 18 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Brother @Papusan I hope the weather has improved so you can enjoy your vacation. How are things going? Better. Last week OF THE HOLIDAY with full Calima and bad lung capacity. Now back home. 5C and icecold wind. And it continue....☹️ Edit. 1.7C now and it feels like 1.9 minus showed by the weathercast. But thanks bro @Mr. Fox. Appreciate your consideration 🙂 Now the weather is great outside Africa. 23-25C in the days. I ordered the holiday for the wrong week (Worst Weather in years). We wanted to visit our Danish friends when they was there. The problem was to get different time for the flight from where I live. Hence we travelled 1-2 weeks before we wanted to see them. Hence fiasko for the first 1.5 weeks (Worst Weather in years here down in Canary). Our Danish friends avoid the bad weather because they arrived two weeks later. Luck for them. And bad for us. If we ordered the flight to go from Oslo (500km away) we would need to stay in trashy Oslo 2 more days. When we travelled from Trondheim (home) it was the last chance to avoid that. Now we have paid the full price because Norways is a small country that prefer profits over what people want/prefer. 2 1 "The Killer" ASUS Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel
Reciever Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Well this weekend I installed the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, AM4. Luckily it had flashback as the firmware did not support the 5800X3D when I got it, one flash later and it POSTed. Though the extra memory modules I purchased were no good, seller is attempting to replace but we'll see on that front. I also traded the 3090Ti for a 9070 XT. I just didnt have a use for it and my server needs dont justify it at all. Also added an NVME to 10Gbps Eth adapter. With the 9070 XT sitting in slot 3 under pcie 4 x8, acting as the Frame Gen mule. I am able to sustain 60 FPS at 4K with Monster Hunter Wilds, with Frame Gen via Lossless Scaling carrying it to 120 "fps". I have to say, this method is quite viable. At 2x Fixed with both GPU's I am using less power than when using the 7900 XTX alone. I'll try out some FPS titles eventually to see if the latency is perceivable. Under Monster Hunter Wilds and GoW: Ragnarok I cant perceive the latency. Ideally I would like to use Adaptive so that if the FPS drops under a threshold the Frame Gen could fill the gap but I could feel the delay on the mouse hand. Under this scenario and the "improved" ducting from the A/C, the GPU was running at 22C, with the Ambient temperature being around 16C from the A/C unit. There is still gaps in the ducting but it would make the system less accessible as well. Pretty happy with the results glad I kept chasing down this experiment. Hate that its needed for certain titles to play well but I do appreciate that its there. 1 1 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Wet Devil 7900 XTX / Pulse 9070 XT (LSFG) | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | EVGA 1300w | NVME to 10Gbps | Win11 IoT UNRAID | Xeon Gold 6248 40c/80t | 64GB + 512GB PMEM | P1000 | 9300i-16P | 68TB HDD's | 5TB SSD's | BeQuiet DP 13 1000w ProxMox | E5-2697A 32c/64t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2x1x1TB NVME Bifurcated | GTX 1060 3GB | X550 10Gbps Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo!
Mr. Fox Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Reciever said: Well this weekend I installed the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, AM4. Luckily it had flashback as the firmware did not support the 5800X3D when I got it, one flash later and it POSTed. Though the extra memory modules I purchased were no good, seller is attempting to replace but we'll see on that front. I also traded the 3090Ti for a 9070 XT. I just didnt have a use for it and my server needs dont justify it at all. Also added an NVME to 10Gbps Eth adapter. With the 9070 XT sitting in slot 3 under pcie 4 x8, acting as the Frame Gen mule. I am able to sustain 60 FPS at 4K with Monster Hunter Wilds, with Frame Gen via Lossless Scaling carrying it to 120 "fps". I have to say, this method is quite viable. At 2x Fixed with both GPU's I am using less power than when using the 7900 XTX alone. I'll try out some FPS titles eventually to see if the latency is perceivable. Under Monster Hunter Wilds and GoW: Ragnarok I cant perceive the latency. Ideally I would like to use Adaptive so that if the FPS drops under a threshold the Frame Gen could fill the gap but I could feel the delay on the mouse hand. Under this scenario and the "improved" ducting from the A/C, the GPU was running at 22C, with the Ambient temperature being around 16C from the A/C unit. There is still gaps in the ducting but it would make the system less accessible as well. Pretty happy with the results glad I kept chasing down this experiment. Hate that its needed for certain titles to play well but I do appreciate that its there. I know Brother @Clamibot swears by it and it has gotten more traction lately in some YouTube videos. I need to order some new fittings to replace the XSPC fittings I am using on this now. (The outside collars are too tight for this tubing.) But, the little monster is now a custom loop with the IceMan bare die block and the Supercool direct touch memory blocks. When the new fittings arrive I will see if I can figure out a better place for the in-line trash filter. 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11 XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | XT M3 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
electrosoft Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 4/3/2026 at 3:54 PM, Mr. Fox said: I think they have had that PSU for a while but super expensive and hard to find. I remember seeing it on their web site but it was never in stock. I do not remember seeing it for sale in retail channels, only the Platinum 1600W. That is a sweet upgrade and well worth the return shipping cost. I suspect EK is trying to pump up business, but honestly... water cooling is the only good solution for anything more than 8C/16T processors (both Intel and AMD) and the best solution for any desktop that isn't a SFF hotbox with no room for something better. Trying to air cool any overclocked high end CPU with 8 or more cores/threads with air or a cheap AIO is going to produce a lackluster result. So, to me they are simply stating the obvious, not something new, specific or unique to the 9950X3D2. I agree, they let me know my old PSU was indeed failing when I asked and an RMA exchange was authorized and on the way. Didn't expect to open the box and find a Titanium. I only sent the PSU back, so now I have a massive swath of P2 1600w cables. I'll have to check to see if they're compatible with the T6. I know they're compatible with my EVGA P2 850. Sounds about right for EK.... I am genuinely curious to see what the 9950X3D2 can do but the fact they're not really touting it has faster than the 9850X3D is pretty telling. On 4/4/2026 at 12:14 AM, Mr. Fox said: I snagged a great deal on a G.SKILL 8400 48GB kit and another Supercool direct touch memory cooler for $435 shipped. I popped the sticks in place of the Kingbank 8400 48GB kit running in the B850MPOWER and it booted right up and runs flawlessly. I think I am going to order a cheap 360MM radiator on Amazon and use my IceMan AM5 direct die block and run a custom loop instead of the Lian Li AIO on my SFF monster. I've got a spare Alphacool D5 pump and res that I am confident will fit between the GPU and front panel fans. Running a custom loop in such a small chassis is going to be pretty sweet. https://www.overclock.net/threads/bunch-of-48gb-ddr5-kits-accessories.1819174/?post_id=29575067#post-29575067 Everyone have a pleasant holiday weekend. Happy Easter. That was a good pick up I saw over there. Hope you had a good Easter brother @Mr. Fox! On 4/4/2026 at 11:46 AM, Talon said: Sometimes this is why I love this hobby. O it's no supposed to work Intel? Lets see about that. Love seeing the 12 core monster get slowly unraveled and working on real Z790 boards....hopefully you get over that cold on your YT video sooner than later bro. On 4/4/2026 at 1:38 PM, win32asmguy said: Very cool. This makes me wonder if Coreboot could boot this chip too. I still have the MSI Pro Z690-A that supports Dashero. Might try hacking support in once summer hits and things calm down at work. Why Intel did not make a 10 P-core 12th Gen chip and 12 P-core 13th+ Gen chip is beyond me. Its not like 10850 and 10900K were poor sellers so far as I remember. Their team even binned that set of Golden Samples for LTT. It really shows just how much the company has shifted in the past few years. I guess Sapphire Rapids could have been considered a viable alternative to this but then you have to deal with mesh binning and the extra latency from registered memory. Probably a bit of fear of voltage issues again if left to run on consumer boards that allow it to overclock and push more voltage. The 13th/14th overvolting issues really did some damage to their name brand and consumer confidence. As @Talon showed, that industry level board he tested the Bartlett on initially was locked down like crazy. They need these P core chips to slot in and run locked in. On the other hand, Intel is boasting that Raptor Lake is alive and well and more boards both DDR4/5 are on the way.... https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-says-raptor-lake-is-not-going-anywhere-hints-at-more-ddr4-ddr5-hybrid-boards Now they need to officially support Bartlett Lake-S on current and future boards and open the floodgates. Depending on where it eventually lands, I wouldn't be adverse to picking one up. A 12 P-Core only chip is just yummy. 8 hours ago, Reciever said: Well this weekend I installed the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, AM4. Luckily it had flashback as the firmware did not support the 5800X3D when I got it, one flash later and it POSTed. Though the extra memory modules I purchased were no good, seller is attempting to replace but we'll see on that front. I also traded the 3090Ti for a 9070 XT. I just didnt have a use for it and my server needs dont justify it at all. Also added an NVME to 10Gbps Eth adapter. With the 9070 XT sitting in slot 3 under pcie 4 x8, acting as the Frame Gen mule. I am able to sustain 60 FPS at 4K with Monster Hunter Wilds, with Frame Gen via Lossless Scaling carrying it to 120 "fps". I have to say, this method is quite viable. At 2x Fixed with both GPU's I am using less power than when using the 7900 XTX alone. I'll try out some FPS titles eventually to see if the latency is perceivable. Under Monster Hunter Wilds and GoW: Ragnarok I cant perceive the latency. Ideally I would like to use Adaptive so that if the FPS drops under a threshold the Frame Gen could fill the gap but I could feel the delay on the mouse hand. Under this scenario and the "improved" ducting from the A/C, the GPU was running at 22C, with the Ambient temperature being around 16C from the A/C unit. There is still gaps in the ducting but it would make the system less accessible as well. Pretty happy with the results glad I kept chasing down this experiment. Hate that its needed for certain titles to play well but I do appreciate that its there. What a cool rabbit hole you've gone down @Reciever on many fronts from the AC ducting to using a 9070xt for FG support. Which model did you swap the 3090ti for? 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I know Brother @Clamibot swears by it and it has gotten more traction lately in some YouTube videos. I need to order some new fittings to replace the XSPC fittings I am using on this now. (The outside collars are too tight for this tubing.) But, the little monster is now a custom loop with the IceMan bare die block and the Supercool direct touch memory blocks. When the new fittings arrive I will see if I can figure out a better place for the in-line trash filter. Nice! All that's left is to block the GPU..... 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Reciever Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I know Brother @Clamibot swears by it and it has gotten more traction lately in some YouTube videos. I need to order some new fittings to replace the XSPC fittings I am using on this now. (The outside collars are too tight for this tubing.) But, the little monster is now a custom loop with the IceMan bare die block and the Supercool direct touch memory blocks. When the new fittings arrive I will see if I can figure out a better place for the in-line trash filter. Those YouTube videos are mostly garbage claiming more FPS. You aren't generating frames via raster and if you set the multiplier too high you get visual distortions or worse, input lag. When set up correctly with the appropriate hardware it can be really good, I'll test some multi-player fps tonight though as those titles are more sensitive to latency. Having a 6C delta for gaming gives me the warm and fuzzies though 48 minutes ago, electrosoft said: I agree, they let me know my old PSU was indeed failing when I asked and an RMA exchange was authorized and on the way. Didn't expect to open the box and find a Titanium. I only sent the PSU back, so now I have a massive swath of P2 1600w cables. I'll have to check to see if they're compatible with the T6. I know they're compatible with my EVGA P2 850. Sounds about right for EK.... I am genuinely curious to see what the 9950X3D2 can do but the fact they're not really touting it has faster than the 9850X3D is pretty telling. That was a good pick up I saw over there. Hope you had a good Easter brother @Mr. Fox! Love seeing the 12 core monster get slowly unraveled and working on real Z790 boards....hopefully you get over that cold on your YT video sooner than later bro. Probably a bit of fear of voltage issues again if left to run on consumer boards that allow it to overclock and push more voltage. The 13th/14th overvolting issues really did some damage to their name brand and consumer confidence. As @Talon showed, that industry level board he tested the Bartlett on initially was locked down like crazy. They need these P core chips to slot in and run locked in. On the other hand, Intel is boasting that Raptor Lake is alive and well and more boards both DDR4/5 are on the way.... https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-says-raptor-lake-is-not-going-anywhere-hints-at-more-ddr4-ddr5-hybrid-boards Now they need to officially support Bartlett Lake-S on current and future boards and open the floodgates. Depending on where it eventually lands, I wouldn't be adverse to picking one up. A 12 P-Core only chip is just yummy. What a cool rabbit hole you've gone down @Reciever on many fronts from the AC ducting to using a 9070xt for FG support. Which model did you swap the 3090ti for? Nice! All that's left is to block the GPU..... Industrial white with all black is always the slickest look IMHO. ------------------------------------------ The sapphire Pulse, seems to work pretty well. I may be looking to get a block for it so that the radiator and it aren't pulling air from each other. Would also free up the space needed to plug in the thermal sensor too. If I do I may as well just block the cpu too. Truthfully just wanted to play Monster Hunter Wilds @4k120 Next on to do list is figuring how to cool my network switch a bit more. My eth to sfp adapters overheating preventing me from being able to use 10Gbps :( Last night was able to hit 260MB/s on the network. I put an sata ssd in the server and some iso's so I can run a VM to house all of my steam library, future downloads will come from it instead of the internet. 1 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Wet Devil 7900 XTX / Pulse 9070 XT (LSFG) | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | EVGA 1300w | NVME to 10Gbps | Win11 IoT UNRAID | Xeon Gold 6248 40c/80t | 64GB + 512GB PMEM | P1000 | 9300i-16P | 68TB HDD's | 5TB SSD's | BeQuiet DP 13 1000w ProxMox | E5-2697A 32c/64t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2x1x1TB NVME Bifurcated | GTX 1060 3GB | X550 10Gbps Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo!
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