*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Clamibot]

On 8/9/2026 at 6:39 AM, jaybee83 said:

you win some, you lose some: GPU cable keeping steady, still at +/-10% max. current imbalance, roughly equating to 1-1.3A, very happy with that.

 

but now suddenly my machine kept crashing during RE9 Requiem gameplay, sudden black screen followed by a reboot, not BSOD, no warning, no freezing, nothing, just instant reboot. had a hunch so i ran TM5 and voila: the RAM started getting unstable! currently retuning the timings while keeping the speed at 7600. not sure if this is silicon degradation or rather the current heatwave. ambient temps are reaching 28-30C in my little gaming corner in the living room, thus pushing the RAM to the upper 50s during gameplay (remember: this is with RGB switched off and a 140mm fan pointing directly towards them). in any case, back to RAM tuning ugh....altho not much in the mood, crazily enjoying my gaming phase 😄 ill just do it on the side, one timing a day i guess.... 😛 at least i found the culprit quickly and can go back to stable gaming without reboots 🙂

Yep, RAM is very temperature sensitive. The upstairs A/C in my house broke recently and we had to get it repaired. While I personally didn't mind the 10-15°F higher ambient temperatures, that destabilized the memory overclock on my desktop.

At first, I thought something was horrifically wrong as the machine would just keep freezing and BSODing after over a year and a half of working great. Nope, it was just the higher ambient temps causing RAM instability. Whew.

 

I wanted my 2.5% overclock though! Grr... performance being left on the table I couldn't access.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Clamibot said:

Yep, RAM is very temperature sensitive. The upstairs A/C in my house broke recently and we had to get it repaired. While I personally didn't mind the 10-15°F higher ambient temperatures, that destabilized the memory overclock on my desktop.

At first, I thought something was horrifically wrong as the machine would just keep freezing and BSODing after over a year and a half of working great. Nope, it was just the higher ambient temps causing RAM instability. Whew.

 

I wanted my 2.5% overclock though! Grr... performance being left on the table I couldn't access.

I have had people (some not even noobs) argue with me and say things like "no, that's not the problem because my RAM is only reaching 65-70°C" and they often don't believe me that anything above about 40-45°C is "too hot" and will cause errors.

[electrosoft]

"New" system coming out for 2026......rerelease of 2021 hardware....

 

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/acer-aspire-xc-1715_czn-ub13-desktop-amd-ryzen-3-5000-series-2021-8gb-lpddr5-512gb-usb-keyboard-and-mouse-black/JJ8V8HY7FJ/sku/6679698

 

Regression at its most finest to compensate for the AI gear hoovering atm....

 

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16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am returning the Gigabyte Z890 AORUS Elite Duo X. It arrived today after a 5-day slow ride from Amazon in Baltimore and I have spent about 8 or 9 hours fighting it. Super nice motherboard, but something is bugged with the hardware or the firmware. When I first installed it, could not get it to POST normally with two RAM sticks. It would POST, restart and then hang with the DRAM debug LED illuminated. So, I swapped in another memory kit. Same thing. Cleared CMOS several times and nothing. I then got it to boot with one RAM stick, but Windows would freeze while loading. I tried to reflash the BIOS using the EZ-Flash button after renaming the BIOS file GIGABYTE.bin but the button would not do anything. Totally unresponsive. I finally got into the BIOS and the file was seen as "invalid ROM" by the BIOS. I moved the memory stick to the other slot and tried again, then it worked and I flashed the BIOS. After that it booted with both RAM sticks. Both memory kits booted fine. I turned it off, unplugged it, then plugged it in again. This time the EZ-Flash button worked and it seemed all good. Easily hit 8800 stable. I thought "OK, that was weird, but everything is fine now." NOT! I began working on tuning the CPU, but any change made to the D2D clock ratio other than leaving it set to  "Auto" it would only boot to BIOS Safe Mode with the message that the BIOS settings were unstable.

 

Another issue I encountered, even though it is a 2-DIMM board, the memory slots are spaced several millimeters further apart than the Apex and the Supercool direct touch RAM block would not work with it.

 

I considered getting an ASROCK Taichi OCF, but don't really like the brand or how it looks. (I have hated all three ASROCK mobos I have owned in the past.) Ordered another Z890 Apex for $25 less than the OCF. It was $100 more than the Duo X,  but I don't need any more drama. It will be worth the extra to keep my sanity.

  

No more likely to drip on the GPU than the CPU block. I've never had a memory water block that leaked before. 

  

This story made the thought of getting the Taichi OCF an even more unattractive option. That, plus the fact that I have never actually cared for any ASROCK motherboard previously, including a Z370 Taichi and X870E Taichi.

 

 

It makes you wonder why a 2-dimm board would introduce extra length to the traces and chance for signal errors at high/tight settings unless the spacing is compatible for a potential 4 dimm version too?

 

Yeah I'm right behind ya with a Newegg RMA.  I already got my RMA to send back the Asrock B850i Phantom. Basically shares the same BIOS as the B850M-C and both are trash IMHO that are having the exact same problems that extend beyond the whole KingBank fiasco. 

 

 

6 hours ago, Clamibot said:

Yep, RAM is very temperature sensitive. The upstairs A/C in my house broke recently and we had to get it repaired. While I personally didn't mind the 10-15°F higher ambient temperatures, that destabilized the memory overclock on my desktop.

At first, I thought something was horrifically wrong as the machine would just keep freezing and BSODing after over a year and a half of working great. Nope, it was just the higher ambient temps causing RAM instability. Whew.

 

I wanted my 2.5% overclock though! Grr... performance being left on the table I couldn't access.

 

 

Even with a fan with an open case raining down AC cooled air, if my temps in my room rise....which they most certainly will with a 5090 at work.....an on the edge OC on my memory will crash and burn sporadically especially gear 2 8000+ Another reason a CPU/MEM loop has me interested.

 

I've thought about a window AC unit to offset the fact my computer room routinely gets much warmer than the rest of the house to keep it a rock steady ~70 in here vs the inevitable temp creep when I'm gaming and the 5090 is a portable heater. Seriously, just like the 4090 but moreso, in the winter months I shut the door and use it to really heat up my room when I get cold.

 

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have had people (some not even noobs) argue with me and say things like "no, that's not the problem because my RAM is only reaching 65-70°C" and they often don't believe me that anything above about 40-45°C is "too hot" and will cause errors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

xx60 class card above $800. Hmmmm. Nope. No thanks. Hell freze first. Madness is the correct word for this.

 

GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB pricing hits $800+ in the US as memory crisis takes hold

 

 

 

 

On 6/12/2026 at 9:07 PM, Papusan said:

Bro. You bought the wrong card😀 Why go so damn cheapo? And I know you you love the FE design. Maybe next month the 6000 Pro will go for over 15K. so this will be a damn good deal, LOOL

 

Run and buy, and return that Asus turd🤣

 

NVIDIA now lists RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell 96GB GPU at $13,250

 

NVIDIA raises RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell price to $16,000, now 87% above original MSRP

 

[Mr. Fox]

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

It makes you wonder why a 2-dimm board would introduce extra length to the traces and chance for signal errors at high/tight settings unless the spacing is compatible for a potential 4 dimm version too?

 

Yeah I'm right behind ya with a Newegg RMA.  I already got my RMA to send back the Asrock B850i Phantom. Basically shares the same BIOS as the B850M-C and both are trash IMHO that are having the exact same problems that extend beyond the whole KingBank fiasco. 

They used the space to the right of the DIMM slots for a vertical NVMe slot and heatsink, which I am totally fine with. I like that a lot, same as DIMM.2 and the NVMe slot on the B850MPOWER next to the memory. But, it is goofy that they put just enough distance between the slots to make the Supercool block not work. The Apex has wider spacing than most as well, and the IceMan block is too narrow for the Apex. So, the Elite Duo X has even more space than the Apex. You don't notice it until you try to screw the block onto the DIMM jackets. You have to bend the modules toward one another to get the screws in, so that is not cool. I initially installed it and got to looking closer and did not feel comfortable with the visible amount of distortion. I tried using thicker thermal pads on right DIMM to shift the cold plate toward the left memory slot to balance it out and relieve the tension, but that was not enough to get them straight enough for me to feel comfortable with the installation being "safe" for the memory slots. (That thermal pad trick works fine on the Apex to use an IceMan block because the space is not as great. It's only about 0.75-1.0mm wider than normal spacing on the Apex.) Things would be better if all of the OEMs held to a standard on this.

[Mr. Fox]

I think I forgot to mention... Given the unsavory trajectory of GPU pricing, I grabbed another 5080 on sale from Microcenter last week for $1100 and snagged the last one available. I put the Prime 5080 in the SFF living room build because the Gigabyte Windforce OC I snagged has a higher core voltage and crossbar clock and I want it in one of my preferred builds.  That's still more than a 5080 should cost, but about $400 less than the asinine price most are selling for and it's not going to get better anytime soon. I rationalized spending less on something that I don't need right now versus paying an undetermined amount more later when I do need it. I also think it might be easier to source a waterblock for the Windforce that isn't selling for an idiotic price. I could only find one option for the Prime, and the price was totally unacceptable. Paying current 5090 prices is a fool's errand and I will have no part of it. Utterly insane and absolutely not worth it, even by a long stretch of the imagination. The price-to-performance math and logic simply does not work for 5090 at current prices.

[Talon]

34 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I think I forgot to mention... Given the unsavory trajectory of GPU pricing, I grabbed another 5080 on sale from Microcenter last week for $1100 and snagged the last one available. I put the Prime 5080 in the SFF living room build because the Gigabyte Windforce OC I snagged has a higher core voltage and crossbar clock and I want it in one of my preferred builds.  That's still more than a 5080 should cost, but about $400 less than the asinine price most are selling for and it's not going to get better anytime soon. I rationalized spending less on something that I don't need right now versus paying an undetermined amount more later when I do need it. I also think it might be easier to source a waterblock for the Windforce that isn't selling for an idiotic price. I could only find one option for the Prime, and the price was totally unacceptable. Paying current 5090 prices is a fool's errand and I will have no part of it. Utterly insane and absolutely not worth it, even by a long stretch of the imagination. The price-to-performance math and logic simply does not work for 5090 at current prices.

 

Now with Melon Volt 0.2 you can punch the voltage on that 5080, on both the NVVDD and MSVDD. No longer voltage limited on 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080, or 5090s on default vBIOS. Now just power limits until shunt that is.

 

Overclock.net forum going wild with new version that lets us unleash the cards!

 

Jensen is not going to be happy about this lol. 

[Talon]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/161882960

 

Good enough for #13 

 

Bartlett Lake is the CPU that could have been. This chip with 8400-8800MTs would have been elite. 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Now with Melon Volt 0.2 you can punch the voltage on that 5080, on both the NVVDD and MSVDD. No longer voltage limited on 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080, or 5090s on default vBIOS. Now just power limits until shunt that is.

 

Overclock.net forum going wild with new version that lets us unleash the cards!

 

Jensen is not going to be happy about this lol. 

Interesting. Got a link? Never heard of Melon Volt.

[Talon]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Interesting. Got a link? Never heard of Melon Volt.

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29605610/

 

Defender throws up false virus readings. So had to disable to get it. 
 

1150mV limits by default. 1250mv with XOC button.

 

XBar scales with MSVDD. By default Nvidia made it so you can’t scale MSVDD beyond NVVDD default baked in. But now that we can raise NVVDD, you can push MSVDD higher and therefore XBar. 

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, Talon said:

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29605610/

 

Defender throws up false virus readings. So had to disable to get it. 

Awesome. Thank you.

 

I have always removed Defender garbage from Windoze so I don't have to worry about Micro$lop's ever-growing database of false positive file flags or bogus blacklists nonsense.

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, Talon said:

Now with Melon Volt 0.2 you can punch the voltage on that 5080, on both the NVVDD and MSVDD. No longer voltage limited on 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080, or 5090s on default vBIOS. Now just power limits until shunt that is.

 

Overclock.net forum going wild with new version that lets us unleash the cards!

 

Jensen is not going to be happy about this lol. 

This is awesome. I tested it on both of my 5080 GPUs and it definitely works. I will test it on the 5090 and see if it will allow me to remove the EVC2 mod without losing anything. I hope that Jensen is not happy. He doesn't deserve to have a happy life.

[Talon]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is awesome. I tested it on both of my 5080 GPUs and it definitely works. I will test it on the 5090 and see if it will allow me to remove the EVC2 mod without losing anything. I hope that Jensen is not happy. He doesn't deserve to have a happy life.

I know! I was messing with it all afternoon on all my cards. I need to shunt mod my lowly 5070/5070 Ti now. Usually the lower tier cards don’t get this fun, but now we can have fun with the entire stack. 
 

I laughed too hard at that last sentence. 🤪  

 

Finally AI is being used for good! The tools they made being used against them  is just too ironic. 

[Mr. Fox]

This is such a nice CPU. The SP87 one you gave me actually seems to perform almost  the same except for the SP98 does it with less voltage. I think on the chiller it's not going to make much difference which one I am using. Without the chiller it will likely run cooler but they both run very reasonable temperatures even when pushed hard since being delidded. The chiller will be mainly useful for the GPU to boost higher and hold boost clocks. I feel blessed to have two really great 270K Plus samples. I think I paid too much for it, but everything worth having  is overpriced and a poor value now, so I digress.

 

[Mr. Fox]

46 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is awesome. I tested it on both of my 5080 GPUs and it definitely works. I will test it on the 5090 and see if it will allow me to remove the EVC2 mod without losing anything. I hope that Jensen is not happy. He doesn't deserve to have a happy life.

Yup, works like a champ on my 5090, too. I'll do some testing and if it does as good or better I will remove the EVC2 mod and just use this instead. Then I won't have to care about the WireView Pro I2C conflicts because there will no longer be one without the EVC2. The MSVDD did goose my crossbar clock a bit on all three GPUs.

 

I think this could end up being the world's most loved utility. I haven't even used it for an hour yet and I love it. It gives us all what we deserved to get from NVIDIA, but they're just too scummy to give us everything they owed us for buying their absurdly overpriced gimped GPU crap.

[jaybee83]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yup, works like a champ on my 5090, too. I'll do some testing and if it does as good or better I will remove the EVC2 mod and just use this instead. Then I won't have to care about the WireView Pro I2C conflicts because there will no longer be one without the EVC2. The MSVDD did goose my crossbar clock a bit on all three GPUs.

 

I think this could end up being the world's most loved utility. I haven't even used it for an hour yet and I love it. It gives us all what we deserved to get from NVIDIA, but they're just too scummy to give us everything they owed us for buying their absurdly overpriced gimped GPU crap.

 

6 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Now with Melon Volt 0.2 you can punch the voltage on that 5080, on both the NVVDD and MSVDD. No longer voltage limited on 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080, or 5090s on default vBIOS. Now just power limits until shunt that is.

 

Overclock.net forum going wild with new version that lets us unleash the cards!

 

Jensen is not going to be happy about this lol. 

 

HOLY CRAP! here i was, just about to start work in the office when i stumbled upon this, bam 45 min gone LOL. omg cant wait to check this out once i get home.... what a total middle finger to Nvidia, friggin hilarious! show them those melons, guys! 😄 

[electrosoft]

 

 

Final (ish) analysis of the whole can't boot / memory problems:

 

Motherboards:

 

Asus X870E Crosshair Hero (still waiting for the Dark variant to be sent out)

HP Omen 35L Prebuilt B850 tower (8400F, 5060, single Rage 6000 DDR5 stick, 512GB NVME)

Asrock Phantom B850i 

Asrock B850M-C 

 

CPUs:

 

8400f

7500X3D

9800X3D

 

Memory:

 

Kingston Rage (Rage) DDR5 6000 1x16GB SR

Teamgroup (TG) 8200 2x24GB 

Kingbank (KB) 8400 2x24GB 

Corsair Vengeance (CV) 9200 2x24GB 

 

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Rage memory boots and runs in every motherboard with every CPU

TG, and CV boots and runs with every MB and CPU except the 7500X3D

KB boots and runs in Hero and HP except with 7500X3D . Total no go in both AsRock boards.

 

This is a two fold with conflation:

 

KB known issue with Asrock boards so they're a no go atm....it was conflating an issue with the 7500X3D.

 

7500X3D has a dud IMC and can't handle 24GB sticks in single or double config. None of the 2x24GB sticks will post on Asrock boards in single or double sticks with the 7500X3D. They will post on HP and Hero but trying to get to desktop they keep getting BSODs and exception errors on the login screens over and over tested from 4800-6000 it doesn't matter. BSOD city on the MBs it can actually boot.  It has no problem with a single stick of SR 16GB Rage memory.

 

All MBs are functional. It was the KB issue and 7500X3D IMC being faulty causing all the problems.

 

Returning the B850i Phantom (popping it in the mail tomorrow) and send the 7500X3D to AMD for an RMA or see if MC would allow a replacement but it will work itself out one way or the other.

 

I plan on running the SFF with my 9800X3D now anyhow and put the 9850X3D delidded into the new Hero Dark when it arrives.

 

In a "we're blessed" moment, Imagine not having a decent amount of hardware to swap and test to log data and diagnose problems all because of a flaky/dud IMC on the CPU and hidden but known compatibility issue with KB sticks with some AsRock MBs.....crazy.

 

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8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I think I forgot to mention... Given the unsavory trajectory of GPU pricing, I grabbed another 5080 on sale from Microcenter last week for $1100 and snagged the last one available. I put the Prime 5080 in the SFF living room build because the Gigabyte Windforce OC I snagged has a higher core voltage and crossbar clock and I want it in one of my preferred builds.  That's still more than a 5080 should cost, but about $400 less than the asinine price most are selling for and it's not going to get better anytime soon. I rationalized spending less on something that I don't need right now versus paying an undetermined amount more later when I do need it. I also think it might be easier to source a waterblock for the Windforce that isn't selling for an idiotic price. I could only find one option for the Prime, and the price was totally unacceptable. Paying current 5090 prices is a fool's errand and I will have no part of it. Utterly insane and absolutely not worth it, even by a long stretch of the imagination. The price-to-performance math and logic simply does not work for 5090 at current prices.

 

 

Smart play when you want a third decently powerful GPU in play since you run three rigs usually at all times.

 

Odds of scoring a secondary 5090, unlike the 4090 days, for a somewhat sane price (less than $3k) have long flown the coop. $1100 is super close to MSRP. Did you snag a WF OC SFF or normal?

 

Unlike some of the OCN forum members who continue to pick up new 5090s, that's too rich for me. I'm going to ride this Vanguard into the ground as my main rig gem.

 

 

8 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Now with Melon Volt 0.2 you can punch the voltage on that 5080, on both the NVVDD and MSVDD. No longer voltage limited on 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080, or 5090s on default vBIOS. Now just power limits until shunt that is.

 

Overclock.net forum going wild with new version that lets us unleash the cards!

 

Jensen is not going to be happy about this lol. 

 

 

This.

 

I'm more than content with my Vanguard since it is a 1.125v sample right out of the box, but the 5080 tops out at 1.040 so that is going to be major fun OCing the 5080 for funsies to see where it goes.

 

Just hoping Jensen doesn't shoot us the bird right back and find a way to lock it out in a future driver revision.

 

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

 

HOLY CRAP! here i was, just about to start work in the office when i stumbled upon this, bam 45 min gone LOL. omg cant wait to check this out once i get home.... what a total middle finger to Nvidia, friggin hilarious! show them those melons, guys! 😄 

 

I can just imagine Jensen screaming, "THE MORE YOU SPEND THE MORE YOU BUY MOTHER%$*$)($S!!!" and smashing his keyboard against a bunch of GPU displays...... 🤣

 

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Jensen right now watching everyone celebrating having control over our own hardware to push the voltage where we want:

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

48 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

In a "we're blessed" moment, Imagine not having a decent amount of hardware to swap and test to log data and diagnose problems all because of a flaky/dud IMC on the CPU and hidden but known compatibility issue with KB sticks with some AsRock MBs.....crazy

Sheesh! What a stinking nightmare. Glad to see there will be a resolution. You're definitely blessed in that you had sufficient resources and spare product to allow the issue to be identified, as well as having a technical knowledge base adequate for it. For your average Point-N-Click keyboard jockey that would have been a valid reason for having a meltdown.

49 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Odds of scoring a secondary 5090, unlike the 4090 days, for a somewhat sane price (less than $3k) have long flown the coop. $1100 is super close to MSRP. Did you snag a WF OC SFF or normal?

SFF. The dimensions are basically identical to the Prime.  Which means it would have been yesterday's version of a normal sized video card.