*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

14 minutes ago, johnksss said:

 

@Papusan

I have no intentions on keep this card. I went to Microcenter to pick up an order fo my client and asked if they had any cards left and they said they had 2. And 1 guy had one of them in his hand looking at it. I was like....Okay let me get the other one. This was at about 8:30AM and Microcenter opened at 6AM. 1 minute later 3 people came up asking about cards, but they were sold out.

I for my self... Want to see how all brand cards perform or see if some have flaws. And the same see tests/reviews of same cards different places. I don't like what I saw with etc the 4090 Zotac Amp Extreme as you saw in the pict I posted above. Never rush if you will spend a lots of money. Tech or other things doesn't matter. I do it the same way on the most I buy. 

[johnksss]

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I for my self... Want to see how all brand cards perform or see if some have flaws. And the same see tests/reviews of same cards different places. I don't like what I saw with etc the 4090 Zotac Amp Extreme as you saw in the pict I posted above. Never rush if you will spend a lots of money. Tech or other things doesn't matter. I do it the same way on the most I buy. 

That boils down to the person working that day.... You can plan and plan and plan and still not come out a winner in the end though....

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, cylix said:

 Yes i think the 4080 will be the sweetspot for gaming, also in 4k. 4090 is in many current titles overkill in 4k, paired with a good CPU.

OFFICIAL BENCHMARKS The gap between RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 is huge

The GeForce RTX 4090 heralded Nvidia's new GPU generation with trumpets. With the RTX 4080, it's not just the price that's going downhill.

 

You mean with the castrated or the real 4080? The 4080@12GB card is a Scam!

[johnksss]

8 minutes ago, Papusan said:

OFFICIAL BENCHMARKS The gap between RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 is huge

The GeForce RTX 4090 heralded Nvidia's new GPU generation with trumpets. With the RTX 4080, it's not just the price that's going downhill.

 

You mean with the castrated or the real 4080? 

In reality, that is how it should have always been. No way a XX90 should be paced by a XX80 card.

 

So as to your other question....so far it seems like 465W is max.

[Talon]

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

OFFICIAL BENCHMARKS The gap between RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 is huge

The GeForce RTX 4090 heralded Nvidia's new GPU generation with trumpets. With the RTX 4080, it's not just the price that's going downhill.

 

You mean with the castrated or the real 4080? The 4080@12GB card is a Scam!

Yeap I'll gladly sit on my RTX 3090 Ti for the living room PC after seeing this performance. The 4090 is just in another league of it's own, it's unreal. 

[Papusan]

12 minutes ago, johnksss said:

In reality, that is how it should have always been. No way a XX90 should be paced by a XX80 card.

1070 beat barely the 980 Ti. This because of the huge uplift in performance with Pascal over Maxwell. And xx90 is here only to milk max and to keep AMD from taking the first place. + we now got a huge performance uplift again with Ada over Ampere. 

 

I wonder where they will put in the Ti cards after they have pushed out the xx50-xx60 and xx70 cards. All is up to what AMD can do with their next gen cards. 

[electrosoft]

57 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Sure, i'll try to run it in a bit.

I only called it that because you said Zotac was trash. lol

 

LOL....it wouldn't matter if it was or not. You're going to just overcome anything and everything and extract wicked numbers out of it anyhow. We all know this.

[Mr. Fox]

I got to say, Zotac might be my EVGA GPU replacement. I need to find out how horrible their warranty service is on the scale of pathetic alternatives to EVGA. This chintzy Zotac 3060 Twin Edge OC that I purchased brand new on Amazon for less than $400 to replace my malfunctioning 2080 Ti FTW3 has given me no reason for disappointment. I played 4 hours of Crysis Remastered last night with everything maxed out, including ray tracing, and the boost clocks held at max from room temperature to maximum steady state temperatures, thermals were good and it was excellent. Was it 150+ FPS like the 2080 Ti and 3090? Nope, but I never would have known it was 85-100 FPS but for the RTSS on-screen overlay telling me so. This was the cheapest 3060 I could find for sale and I can't find anything wrong with it, other than it is not a flagship GPU model. I would have wasted my money buying a more expensive brand. Even overclocked to 2125 core (+200) it doesn't lose clock speeds. It pegs the power limit and just stays there. Like all GPUs should.

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

 

@Papusan It literally reminds me of a dam Carnival Cruise Ship. 😂

Maybe I am too old school, but I prefer the straight lines, square corners, boxey-looking plain black parts over the swoopy curves and wavy lines, and weird colors, that are so popular with the kiddos. Some of the fancy gamerboy crap we see now is just so tacky and gaudy looking. While results do matter most, based on aesthetics I will choose classy over flashy any day.

[Etern4l]

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

Sure, i'll try to run it in a bit.

 

Sorry, I cannot add any more reactions today, but thanks a lot in advance.

[Talon]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I got to say, Zotac might be my EVGA GPU replacement. I need to find out how horrible their warranty service is on the scale of pathetic alternatives to EVGA. This chintzy Zotac 3060 Twin Edge OC that I purchased brand new on Amazon for less than $400 to replace my malfunctioning 2080 Ti FTW3 has given me no reason for disappointment. I played 4 hours of Crysis Remastered last night with everything maxed out, including ray tracing, and the boost clocks held at max from room temperature to maximum steady state temperatures, thermals were good and it was excellent. Was it 150+ FPS like the 2080 Ti and 3090? Nope, but I never would have known it was 85-100 FPS but for the RTSS on-screen overlay telling me so. This was the cheapest 3060 I could find for sale and I can't find anything wrong with it, other than it is not a flagship GPU model. I would have wasted my money buying a more expensive brand. Even overclocked to 2125 core (+200) it doesn't lose clock speeds. It pegs the power limit and just stays there. Like all GPUs should.

Maybe I am too old school, but I prefer the straight lines, square corners, boxey-looking plain black parts over the swoopy curves and wavy lines, and weird colors, that are so popular with the kiddos. Some of the fancy gamerboy crap we see now is just so tacky and gaudy looking. While results do matter most, based on aesthetics I will choose classy over flashy any day.

 

When I was at Microcenter I was making my ranking list of what I would go for if the Strix wasn't there. Unfortunately the SuprimX was not available at all, so I started researching the cards. The Zotac this generation is excellent looking. Honestly this gen I would have been happy with the Asus Strix, Gigabyte, Zotac Extreme, or MSI SuprimX. 

 

I would avoid the MSI Trio, they didn't give the card a vapor chamber from what I could see. That is total shit move if true. 

[Etern4l]

24 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

When I was at Microcenter I was making my ranking list of what I would go for if the Strix wasn't there. Unfortunately the SuprimX was not available at all, so I started researching the cards. The Zotac this generation is excellent looking. Honestly this gen I would have been happy with the Asus Strix, Gigabyte, Zotac Extreme, or MSI SuprimX. 

 

Are you sure they didn't carry any Strix or Aorus cards? I hear they are now in Portable Electronics section har har

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, Talon said:

When I was at Microcenter I was making my ranking list of what I would go for if the Strix wasn't there. Unfortunately the SuprimX was not available at all, so I started researching the cards. The Zotac this generation is excellent looking. Honestly this gen I would have been happy with the Asus Strix, Gigabyte, Zotac Extreme, or MSI SuprimX. 

 

I would avoid the MSI Trio, they didn't give the card a vapor chamber from what I could see. That is total shit move if true. 

While I have expressed my jealousy and disappointment that there is no Microcenter in Phoenix on more than one occasion, it is probably best that there is not in the grand scheme of things. Behaving myself and avoiding financial foolishness would be much more difficult if there were one here.

[jaybee83]

6 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 

Apparently there is not much point in OCing this, but well done finding any stock at all today. Nvidia def learned their lessons on how to manage stock to extract max value 🙂

 

oookay lots of posts to reply to after watching lord of the rings with my lady 😄 so here we go...

 

yeah thanks man, i feel vindicated after virtually running around like a madman. also added overnight express shipping, so card will be here tomorrow 🙂 and something was MOSDEF sus today, it seemed like shops were releasing cards in small batches before blocking their sites again. it even took like 30-40 minutes before i saw ANY cards in stock for the first time.

 

5 hours ago, Talon said:

Couldn't fit in one post, sorry double post. 

 

rofl, that card makes your case look "regular sized" even though we all know its HUGE 😄 

 

4 hours ago, cylix said:

Well from what i saw the AIB cards. Strix and tuf are not that much cooler as the FE. Jayztwocents says araund 2 celsius and gearseekers says 5 6 degrees for the tuf and it dependals of the game. Personally for me this is not worth the  price increase over FE.

 

 

it depends on what kinda load ure looking at. have a looksie at the TPU cooler comparison and ull see there are definitely significant differences:

 

 

the strix even comes close to the Suprim Liquid X, with the air cooled Suprim X just a tad behind.

 

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Everyone is buying the scalper GPU’s on eBay. I’m shocked we are even doing this again. If they’d just wait for the next inventory load they would get one.

 

 

I saw them in Newegg for $1,599 for several hours until they finally sold out. 

 

u gotta be kidding me... during my crazy 1.5 hour search today i saw the following:

- FE and good AIB cards either out of stock or offered at insane prices at scalper shops or private sales

- crappy AIB cards in stock at good prices (MSRP or just slightly above)

- "meh" cards like the Gamerock or Gigabyte cards at below scalper but definitely way over their actual MSRP prices

 

so it was reaaaally tough to make a proper decision. im just glad i kept my cool sufficiently to compute the TPU reviews and make a decision lulz.

only small gripe i have with the Suprim X is its power limit capped at 520W, but no worries there, ill just flash a 600W vbios whenever it becomes available 😛 thats when the 26 phase VRMs will pay out mwahaha.

 

2 hours ago, johnksss said:

 

thats hilarious man, i was initially eyeing that exact card and psu ahaha! in the end decided otherwise, but keep us updated on how they fare (especially when maxxed out).

 

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I saw this a bit ago and I agree. On the other hand, everyone of my local Microcenters have 4090's in stock but only the trash models (Zotac, MSI low end, etc...).

 

Best Buy and Newegg are sold out but the day is young and those who buy from eBay are going to be kicking themselves when a month from now everything is back in stock plus AMD on the horizon.

 

 

 

yep thats exactly what i saw today, only the "trashy" cards in stock... 😅 but at least at or close to the MSRP!

thats what im hoping for@kicking themselves! i also saw a LOT of scalper prices, both from private sellers AND shops! but i told myself id rather go empty handed today than give such pricks my money! NOT WITH ME!

 

2 hours ago, johnksss said:

About to see what my "temp" "trash" card is going to do...

 

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

This is with adding the max, 110% form 100%

 

No change in clocks right now. 🤣

 

push that trash to its limits! 🤣

 

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

That boils down to the person working that day.... You can plan and plan and plan and still not come out a winner in the end though....

 

absolutely agree. encountered that exact scenario today, been planning my build forever and suddenly all changed.

thats what happens when the Nvidiots dont allow any AIB reviews to be published until the card sales launch, ugh... disgusting tactics.

[Talon]

Unfortunately GPU-Z can't read my vBIOS yet. Hopefully just needs an update to read/save vBIOS. 

 

500w default with 600w PWL at max slider. Of course the card doesn't need anywhere near this it seems. The cards are just stupid overbuilt this gen. Nvidia must have been thinking far higher power draw, the AIB partners built to that SPEC and now where have super size cards that don't pull anywhere near 600w. At least were not worried about hitting PWL anymore. 

 

 

[Reciever]

48 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

Sorry, I cannot add any more reactions today, but thanks a lot in advance.

Try it again, I think I got it correctly this time for reaction limit, should be 75 per day.

[jaybee83]

50 minutes ago, Talon said:

Unfortunately GPU-Z can't read my vBIOS yet. Hopefully just needs an update to read/save vBIOS. 

 

500w default with 600w PWL at max slider. Of course the card doesn't need anywhere near this it seems. The cards are just stupid overbuilt this gen. Nvidia must have been thinking far higher power draw, the AIB partners built to that SPEC and now where have super size cards that don't pull anywhere near 600w. At least were not worried about hitting PWL anymore. 

 

 

 

whenever u get it saved, pls send it my way, will ya? wanna get rid of the measly 520W limit on the MSI 😄 

 

and yes, totally overbuilt coolers. but u know smth? i prefer to have a beefy but cool and quiet card rather than a screaming lava box. also happy about the PL finally being "enough" for the gpu to properly stretch its legs 🙂 

 

edit: looks like there are already a bunch of 4090 vbios out on TPU, NICE:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=&manufacturer=&model=RTX+4090&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since=

[tps3443]

The 4090 is so fast. That’s awesome it turned out to be a good GPU. Definitely a nice jump over the 3090 FE, and the 3090Ti.

[Etern4l]

39 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

whenever u get it saved, pls send it my way, will ya? wanna get rid of the measly 520W limit on the MSI 😄 

 

and yes, totally overbuilt coolers. but u know smth? i prefer to have a beefy but cool and quiet card rather than a screaming lava box. also happy about the PL finally being "enough" for the gpu to properly stretch its legs 🙂 

 

edit: looks like there are already a bunch of 4090 vbios out on TPU, NICE:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=&manufacturer=&model=RTX+4090&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since=

 

It would appear that all these cards, including the FE, are fairly cool and quiet... the magic of 5nm. Yes, there are are some minor differences, which clearly have a lot to do with fan curves, that's user-adjustable anyway. Of course, if you want to try hacks, shunt mods etc. then boombox (or WC) all the way regardless of other considerations.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-founders-edition/37.html

 

Temperature & Noise Comparison
	Idle		Gaming
	GPU	Noise	GPU	Hotspot	Memory	Noise	RPM
ASUS RTX 4090 STRIX OC	40°C	Fan Stop	62°C	70°C	62°C	32.6 dBA	1330 RPM
ASUS RTX 4090 STRIX OC (Quiet BIOS)	42°C	Fan Stop	65°C	73°C	68°C	29.8 dBA	1118 RPM
Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC	42°C	Fan Stop	61°C	70°C	64°C	36.2 dBA	1732 RPM
Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC (Turbo BIOS)	42°C	Fan Stop	62°C	71°C	64°C	36.7 dBA	1759 RPM
Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC	44°C	Fan Stop	60°C	67°C	62°C	37.4 dBA	1716 RPM
Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC (Quiet BIOS)	41°C	Fan Stop	64°C	72°C	66°C	32.6 dBA	1416 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X	46°C	Fan Stop	70°C	77°C	76°C	28.6 dBA	1198 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X (Gaming BIOS)	46°C	Fan Stop	64°C	70°C	68°C	32.6 dBA	1466 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X	37°C	Fan Stop*	58°C	67°C	68°C	32.2 dBA	1197 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X (Quiet BIOS)	38°C	Fan Stop*	60°C	69°C	72°C	29.0 dBA	1105 RPM
NVIDIA RTX 4090 Founders Edition	37°C	Fan Stop	66°C	74°C	72°C	35.1 dBA	1449 RPM
Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC	43°C	Fan Stop	66°C	73°C	68°C	35.0 dBA	1539 RPM
Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC (Quiet BIOS)	43°C	Fan Stop	66°C	73°C	70°C	31.8 dBA	1399 RPM
Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme	42°C	Fan Stop	66°C	75°C	76°C	37.1 dBA	1434 RPM
Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme (Quiet BIOS)	45°C	Fan Stop	72°C	81°C	82°C	31.8 dBA	1152 RPM

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

Unfortunately GPU-Z can't read my vBIOS yet. Hopefully just needs an update to read/save vBIOS. 

 

500w default with 600w PWL at max slider. Of course the card doesn't need anywhere near this it seems. The cards are just stupid overbuilt this gen. Nvidia must have been thinking far higher power draw, the AIB partners built to that SPEC and now where have super size cards that don't pull anywhere near 600w. At least were not worried about hitting PWL anymore. 

 

 

My 2080 Ti and 3090 KPE have both exceeded 800W in some demanding benchmarks. I think that is going to present some limitations. It probably will be more than adequate for gaming, but not for overclocked benching unless the firmware and thermals artifically cripple the performance to such an extent that achieving overclocking superiority is a futile endeavor that has no remedy.

[electrosoft]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

My 2080 Ti and 3090 KPE have both exceeded 800W in some demanding benchmarks. I think that is going to present some limitations. It probably will be more than adequate for gaming, but not for overclocked benching unless the firmware and thermals artifically cripple the performance to such an extent that achieving overclocking superiority is a futile endeavor that has no remedy.

 

Definitely going to need either shunt or truly EVGA/Galax class unlocked BIOS to see where it starts to tap out....

 

 

[electrosoft]

30 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

It would appear that all these cards, including the FE, are fairly cool and quiet... the magic of 5nm. Yes, there are are some minor differences, which clearly have a lot to do with fan curves, that's user-adjustable anyway. Of course, if you want to try hacks, shunt mods etc. then boombox (or WC) all the way regardless of other considerations.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-founders-edition/37.html

 

Temperature & Noise Comparison
	Idle		Gaming
	GPU	Noise	GPU	Hotspot	Memory	Noise	RPM
ASUS RTX 4090 STRIX OC	40°C	Fan Stop	62°C	70°C	62°C	32.6 dBA	1330 RPM
ASUS RTX 4090 STRIX OC (Quiet BIOS)	42°C	Fan Stop	65°C	73°C	68°C	29.8 dBA	1118 RPM
Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC	42°C	Fan Stop	61°C	70°C	64°C	36.2 dBA	1732 RPM
Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC (Turbo BIOS)	42°C	Fan Stop	62°C	71°C	64°C	36.7 dBA	1759 RPM
Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC	44°C	Fan Stop	60°C	67°C	62°C	37.4 dBA	1716 RPM
Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC (Quiet BIOS)	41°C	Fan Stop	64°C	72°C	66°C	32.6 dBA	1416 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X	46°C	Fan Stop	70°C	77°C	76°C	28.6 dBA	1198 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X (Gaming BIOS)	46°C	Fan Stop	64°C	70°C	68°C	32.6 dBA	1466 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X	37°C	Fan Stop*	58°C	67°C	68°C	32.2 dBA	1197 RPM
MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X (Quiet BIOS)	38°C	Fan Stop*	60°C	69°C	72°C	29.0 dBA	1105 RPM
NVIDIA RTX 4090 Founders Edition	37°C	Fan Stop	66°C	74°C	72°C	35.1 dBA	1449 RPM
Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC	43°C	Fan Stop	66°C	73°C	68°C	35.0 dBA	1539 RPM
Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC (Quiet BIOS)	43°C	Fan Stop	66°C	73°C	70°C	31.8 dBA	1399 RPM
Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme	42°C	Fan Stop	66°C	75°C	76°C	37.1 dBA	1434 RPM
Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme (Quiet BIOS)	45°C	Fan Stop	72°C	81°C	82°C	31.8 dBA	1152 RPM

 

 

 

I'm really liking the MSI Suprim Liquid X more and more.....

 

 

[jaybee83]

3 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

 

I'm really liking the MSI Suprim Liquid X more and more.....

 

 

haha yep mighty impressive cooling line there. although i must admit im impressed how close the STRIX is getting to the liquid cooled card...at higher powers it might even overtake it.

[electrosoft]

9 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

haha yep mighty impressive cooling line there. although i must admit im impressed how close the STRIX is getting to the liquid cooled card...at higher powers it might even overtake it.

 

The idea of spilling 500-600w of heat in my case does not excite me though. 🙂

I won't be doing that song and dance ever again....

At least the FE spits a large chunk of it out but I do remember feeling all that heat radiating from the rear side mem and the fins being very hot on my FE 3090.

 

 

 

[Etern4l]

36 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

 

I'm really liking the MSI Suprim Liquid X more and more.....

 

 

 

Yep, liking it too, but probably for a different reason - it takes just two slots (plus the design seems fine).

On the other hand it looks like it requires an even wider case to accomodate the tubing though (plus need case space for another AIO). Probably time to start researching a new case either way...

 

Also curious about the reliability and servicability. If there is a problem with a CPU AIO, you just swap in another one (unless it leaked...), with this you need to RMA the whole card I guess. Or maybe it doesn't matter vs air cooled: would probably need to RMA a failed fan anyway.

[jaybee83]

ready for GPU

 

 

and yeah yeah i know, too much unicorn vomit. havent installed OS yet 😛 

 

im happy with how cable management turned out, must say not bad for being out of the desktop game 15 years now, eh? 😁