*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Raiderman]

Seems like I may have purchased a fairly good chip. I was able to undervolt this thing in precision at -30, so far it is benching CB23. Hasnt crashed yet (crossing fingers)

 

[ryan]

3 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Seems like I may have purchased a fairly good chip. I was able to undervolt this thing in precision at -30, so far it is benching CB23. Hasnt crashed yet (crossing fingers)

 

 

 

Thats like 28 000 more points than my 11800h. I often wonder whats the use of a fast cpu...then as @Papusan mentioned he has a q9000 and well try going back to a cpu that scores 1000 and get back at me. I get it its super important but nowadays if your using your computer for business or gaming its straight up overkill. kinda like a bugatti for getting groceries

[Papusan]

He have probably forgot what he talked about in the earlier days😎 Maybe we all take wrong... GPUs is all too cheap nowadays. They should have costed at least the double. Or the triple of today🙂

 

Resurfaced Video Shows Young Jensen Huang Promising ’Inexpensive' GPUs

 

 

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Seems like I may have purchased a fairly good chip. I was able to undervolt this thing in precision at -30, so far it is benching CB23. Hasnt crashed yet (crossing fingers)

 

 

Looking quite righteous bro! For a second I didn't have my glasses and I thought it said 7900x I was like wth?! 🙂

 

"Team Red Standing by" 😈

 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

He have probably forgot what he talked about in the earlier days😎 Maybe we all take wrong... GPUs is all too cheap nowadays. They should have costed at least the double. Or the triple of today🙂

 

Resurfaced Video Shows Young Jensen Huang Promising ’Inexpensive' GPUs

 

 

 

I've often found there is a large swath of those without who beat their chests, berate and denigrate those with and talk about bringing fairness and equality to the world. Once they become one of those with, they tend to transmogrify into the very thing they once loathed and disparaged.....

 

.....funny how that works.

 

 

[Raiderman]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

 

 

Thats like 28 000 more points than my 11800h. I often wonder whats the use of a fast cpu...then as @Papusan mentioned he has a q9000 and well try going back to a cpu that scores 1000 and get back at me. I get it its super important but nowadays if your using your computer for business or gaming its straight up overkill. kinda like a bugatti for getting groceries

It is overkill, but hardware enthusiasts eat this crap up. We like fast this or faster that. This is our dilema.....there is always something faster or newer.

[ryan]

I remember people buying the best gpus to run crysis. it was always can it run crysis. then with the 5870 they could and that was that, but what are cpu enthusiasts gunning for

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, ryan said:

I remember people buying the best gpus to run crysis. it was always can it run crysis. then with the 5870 they could and that was that, but what are cpu enthusiasts gunning for

 

The new bar is Cyberpunk 2077 4k Psycho RT and the new Unreal Engine 5 Ultra settings 4k RT enabled. They quickly bring the 4090 back to reality.

 

 

[Etern4l]

6 hours ago, ryan said:

I remember people buying the best gpus to run crysis. it was always can it run crysis. then with the 5870 they could and that was that, but what are cpu enthusiasts gunning for

 

It's fairly usage dependent. In games you are more likely to be GPU bottlenecked, but not always - lower resolution / high FPS gaming (eSports games like CS:GO in particular) and large open world games would be the two most notable exceptions. 

Productivity etc. is another story.

[Raiderman]

45 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

The new bar is Cyberpunk 2077 4k Psycho RT and the new Unreal Engine 5 Ultra settings 4k RT enabled. They quickly bring the 4090 back to reality.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, ryan said:

I remember people buying the best gpus to run crysis. it was always can it run crysis. then with the 5870 they could and that was that, but what are cpu enthusiasts gunning for

Back im my day, it was....Can it run Unreal tournament. Fitting that its Unreal Engine pushing the envelope again.

 

I had two of those 5870's crossfired, or maybe it was the 4870's...and hacked my case top to put in the Koolance water cooler.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 minute ago, Raiderman said:

 

Back im my day, it was....Can it run Unreal tournament. Fitting that its Unreal Engine pushing the envelope again.

I had two of those 5870's crossfired, or maybe it was the 4870's...

 

 

I was a diehard ATi fan back then. My kids all had desktops I built for them. I had many happy hours with my four sons playing Quake, Quake II and Unreal Tournament on the home LAN. My daughter never really got into it, but she had a PC to do girl stuff with. Not sure what the girl stuff was, LOL.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, ryan said:

I remember people buying the best gpus to run crysis. it was always can it run crysis. then with the 5870 they could and that was that, but what are cpu enthusiasts gunning for

It's about for the same. Beat your previous best scores from the previous gen processors. Running Crysis or running Cinebench will be for the same. Then you have the Cpu bottleneck.... Running 2 or 3 years old Cpu's with todays graphics cards and the Cpu will be the bottleneck. And the same will repeat with next gen graphics cards. Gone is the days an older Cpu handled all graphics cards. 

 

Would you pair the Quad core Q9000 below with RTX4090?🙂 

 

I go sometimes the opposite way. See what Cpu is worse than the newer one. But the goal is still the same. See if I can beat yesterdays score running same CPU. And new or old doesn't matter

 

For the records... GPUI and GPUI v3.3 ain't the same benchmark.  And the same apply for 100M vs 1B🙂

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5177488_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_2_quad_q9000_1min_46sec_737ms

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5177493_papusan_gpupi_v3.3_for_cpu___100m_core_2_quad_q9000_1min_25sec_985ms

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5177516_papusan_gpupi_v3.3_for_cpu___1b_core_2_quad_q9000_28min_21sec_977ms?recalculate=true

[ryan]

I know im a noob at overclocking anything past the 960m but im good at tweaking as I know alot of tweaks thanks to you pros' I managed to get a score higher than most completely stock tipping past 8400 gpu and 9400 cpu in timespy im proud of it. I just wish I knew how to overclock these new chips I cant seem to get clocks to stick and there isnt much info available to me on my intranet.

 

what makes this a special score is its right smack in between a 3060 laptop and 3060 desktop

[Rage Set]

 

 

He's clearly trying to walk this back. Look at his pinned comment. He should have not stated in his first video that the drivers caused this, without proof. That is why he is getting pushback. There was speculation that these were mining cards but a lot of sole Nvidia fanboys tried to use this matter as additional ammo against AMD. Sure, AMD messed up bad on their reference designed GPU's, but this came at the right time to help fuel the fire.

 

 

[ryan]

I did a lapse

 

stock

 

40/40

 

80/80

 

120/120

160/160

 

180/180

 

so as you can see with my buggy buggery. nothing seems to add alot at no clocks. any help?

 

 

under volted

 

[Mr. Fox]

Either NewEgg got a bunch of these in stock or nobody wants them. They are allowing up to 5 per customer and the price is a tiny bit less insane than normal. They have not disappeared quickly like they usually do. This has remained available for three hours at the time of my posting it.

 

GIGABYTE Gaming (GIGABYTE) GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card GV-N4090GAMING OC-24GD

 

  

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

 

 

He's clearly trying to walk this back. Look at his pinned comment. He should have not stated in his first video that the drivers caused this, without proof. That is why he is getting pushback. There was speculation that these were mining cards but a lot of sole Nvidia fanboys tried to use this matter as additional ammo against AMD. Sure, AMD messed up bad on their reference designed GPU's, but this came at the right time to help fuel the fire.

Interesting that even with new pads and paste and max fans 95-100°C hotspot is status quo on those GPUs. That is certainly enough to abbreviate the lifespan of a GPU. Those are unhealthy turdbook-grade temperatures.

 

The damage shown at 14:10 is pretty scary looking. Whatever is causing it is obviously not good.

[electrosoft]

30 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Either NewEgg got a bunch of these in stock or nobody wants them. They are allowing up to 5 per customer and the price is a tiny bit less insane than normal. They have not disappeared quickly like they usually do. This has remained available for three hours at the time of my posting it.

 

GIGABYTE Gaming (GIGABYTE) GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card GV-N4090GAMING OC-24GD

 

 

 

I can't quite figure out why Newegg has so many of these shipped and sold from Newegg and at MSRP and they keep coming into stock while they're completely sold out elsewhere.

 

They routinely say limit 5 even on high demand items and I just checked and they're out of stock....again.

 

4090 and 7900xtx are routinely out of stock. Every other card is pretty easy to find.

 

Of course the "fear" is this supply of Gigabyte cards will eventually dry up as BB and Amazon rarely, if ever, have them come into stock.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

26 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I can't quite figure out why Newegg has so many of these shipped and sold from Newegg and at MSRP and they keep coming into stock while they're completely sold out elsewhere.

 

They routinely say limit 5 even on high demand items and I just checked and they're out of stock....again.

 

4090 and 7900xtx are routinely out of stock. Every other card is pretty easy to find.

 

Of course the "fear" is this supply of Gigabyte cards will eventually dry up as BB and Amazon rarely, if ever, have them come into stock.

 

 

Yeah, I agree. While I am not a fan of the Gigabutt brand, that question has crossed my mind as well. I thought maybe these were junk and had lots of issues, but my impression from some quick research is that almost everyone that owns one loves it. In fact, I saw many posts that suggests that owners of this model 4090 and Zotac are among the most pleased 4090 owners. The thing I think I like most about this GPU and the PNY models is how nondescript they are. Not much in terms of bling or weirdness, just a plain jane plastic shroud covering a heat sink. That may be why they are not selling fast. Maybe too many people want the gaudy-looking coolers and lots of rainbow puke, so they pass on the plain-looking options?

 

Some of the more expensive cards are having issues and suffer from very loud and annoying coil whine and it seems like many of the owners of this GPU and Zotac 4090s bought them as replacements for ASUS cards with severe coil whine. This 4090 and the PNY 4090 seems like they are easiest ones (usually the only option) to find in stock versus other options. So, I expected to see a lot of negative comments from owners. I couldn't find any. All seem pretty darned happy. Anecdotally, it seems like the most complaints are from the owners of the most expensive models.

 

Another anecdotal observation, that may or may not be accurate... it seems like there is no meaningful difference between any of them. Aesthetic features aside, it seems like a simple vBIOS cross flash would essentially make most of them exactly the same in terms of functionality, with little or no difference in physical hardware at the PCB level or performance. So, which cooler do you think looks best is the first question to ask, and if you are going to block one, does it even matter what you buy? Mostly cookie-cutter gamer junk other than vBIOS/TGP changes?

 

The Zotac Trinity has been frequently available on Amazon for between $1700 and $1850 sold and shipped by Amazon. I could have purchased one 10 times this week had I wanted to. But, the AMP AIRO is missing in action. Almost never available and always at a stupid price. Again, other than a vBIOS/TGP difference that could be cured with a cross-flashed vBIOS, I am not sure there is actually any real differece.

[electrosoft]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yeah, I agree. While I am not a fan of the Gigabutt brand, that question has crossed my mind as well. I thought maybe these were junk and had lots of issues, but my impression from some quick research is that almost everyone that owns one loves it. In fact, I saw many posts that suggests that owners of this model 4090 and Zotac are among the most pleased 4090 owners. Some of the more expensive cards are having issues and suffer from very loud and annoying coil whine and it seems like many of the owners of this GPU and Zotac 4090s bought them as replacements for ASUS cards with severe coil whine. This 4090 and the PNY 4090 seems like they are easiest ones (usually the only option) to find in stock versus other options. So, I expected to see a lot of negative comments from owners. I couldn't find any. All seem pretty darned happy. Anecdotally, it seems like the most complaints are from the owners of the most expensive models.

 

I had a Gigabyte Aorus Master 3070 and that card was a beast. Ran cool, no coil whine and overclocked like a champ with good memory so I am good with their GPUs. Their motherboards on the other hand....

 

Asus and MSI seem to be the coil whine champs this time around but my Liquid Suprim X 4090 is crazy quiet. It takes >~220fps to get it to start making any type of coil whine noise.

 

I managed to snag an MSI Gaming X Trio OC 4090 from BB with discount and BB 5% rewards = ~$1495.39 total in my hand the other day only because a local (ish) store had one in stock sitting in there. When all is said and done it is ~$415 cheaper than my Suprim X 4090 which when I contacted Newegg they said would allow a one time return for full refund (since I've literally never returned anything to Newegg ever in 20yrs) so I'm tempted to pick it up and give it a whirl. It is ~1hr away drive so it is sitting there waiting for me till Feb 1st while I mull it over.

 

It has the same PCB as the Suprim but with cut down phases. I really like this Suprim a lot but I also like $415 in my pocket too (Well, $400 calculating gas there and back).

 

 

 

 

[cylix]

From what I found while researching for a 4090 to buy, the zotac 4090 trinity and the oc have 14+4 power phase design like palit and Gainward. The amp extreme has 24+4 and also binned chip like the strix and suprim.

Also I can relate to the others owners of the zotac. No coil whine whatsoever 😀

[Mr. Fox]

42 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I had a Gigabyte Aorus Master 3070 and that card was a beast. Ran cool, no coil whine and overclocked like a champ with good memory so I am good with their GPUs. Their motherboards on the other hand....

 

Asus and MSI seem to be the coil whine champs this time around but my Liquid Suprim X 4090 is crazy quiet. It takes >~220fps to get it to start making any type of coil whine noise.

 

I managed to snag an MSI Gaming X Trio OC 4090 from BB with discount and BB 5% rewards = ~$1495.39 total in my hand the other day only because a local (ish) store had one in stock sitting in there. When all is said and done it is ~$415 cheaper than my Suprim X 4090 which when I contacted Newegg they said would allow a one time return for full refund (since I've literally never returned anything to Newegg ever in 20yrs) so I'm tempted to pick it up and give it a whirl. It is ~1hr away drive so it is sitting there waiting for me till Feb 1st while I mull it over.

 

It has the same PCB as the Suprim but with cut down phases. I really like this Suprim a lot but I also like $415 in my pocket too (Well, $400 calculating gas there and back).

 

 

 

 

That is a REALLY good price for the Trio. Would be hard to resist it.

20 minutes ago, cylix said:

From what I found while researching for a 4090 to buy, the zotac 4090 trinity and the oc have 14+4 power phase design like palit and Gainward. The amp extreme has 24+4 and also binned chip like the strix and suprim.

Also I can relate to the others owners of the zotac. No coil whine whatsoever 😀

Thank you. I had not seen that the AMP has 24+4 versus 14+4. Great info. That is a big difference and probably a good reason for me to continue to reject the notion of possibly settling for a Trinity version some day. It would not matter if I were only buying a GPU for playing games. The only reason I would consider buying a 4090 is so I could overclock the living crap out of it, so I would want something that is less likely to fail at the sole purpose I would waste my money on it in the first place.

[cylix]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That is a REALLY good price for the Trio. Would be hard to resist it.

Thank you. I had not seen that the AMP has 24+4 versus 14+4. Great info. That is a big difference and probably a good reason for me to continue to reject the notion of possibly settling for a Trinity version some day. It would not matter if I were only buying a GPU for playing games. The only reason I would consider buying a 4090 is so I could overclock the living crap out of it, so I would want something that is less likely to fail at the sole purpose I would waste my money on it in the first place.

Yes then the only options are something like the high tier: amp,  suprim, strix or the aorus master.

 

Also FE is a good choice unlocked 600 w power and also 20+4 phases

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

 

He's clearly trying to walk this back. Look at his pinned comment. He should have not stated in his first video that the drivers caused this, without proof. That is why he is getting pushback. There was speculation that these were mining cards but a lot of sole Nvidia fanboys tried to use this matter as additional ammo against AMD. Sure, AMD messed up bad on their reference designed GPU's, but this came at the right time to help fuel the fire.

 

 

The fun part.... Weird we haven't seen any nvidia cards stored in same way and with same symptoms and with same damage. And Nvidia have sold 1/3 rd of their cards to miners. Oh Well, this was to be expected due so much cards went to the miners. And they won't get rid of cards that fast. They have to be stored some places before some will buy them.

 

Regarding Todays tech. We pay premium for trash.... 

 

PSA: Intel I226-V 2.5GbE on Raptor Lake Motherboards Has a Connection Drop Issue: No Fix Available techpowerup.com 

 

In the end, we just switched over to the motherboard's second network interface, which is not an Intel NIC, and the issue went away. Another option could be to buy a cheap PCI-Express network card or use the board's integrated Wi-Fi. Still, such issues aren't acceptable, especially not from a world-leading manufacturer like Intel, who once was reputed for the quality of its networking equipment. Intel and its motherboard partners need to get on top of this issue.

 

[Rage Set]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

The fun part.... Weird we haven't seen any nvidia cards stored in same way and with same symptoms and with same damage. And Nvidia have sold 1/3 rd of their cards to miners. 

 

Regarding Todays tech. We pay premium for trash.... 

 

PSA: Intel I226-V 2.5GbE on Raptor Lake Motherboards Has a Connection Drop Issue: No Fix Available techpowerup.com 

 

In the end, we just switched over to the motherboard's second network interface, which is not an Intel NIC, and the issue went away. Another option could be to buy a cheap PCI-Express network card or use the board's integrated Wi-Fi. Still, such issues aren't acceptable, especially not from a world-leading manufacturer like Intel, who once was reputed for the quality of its networking equipment. Intel and its motherboard partners need to get on top of this issue.

 

 

Very true, however, I still believe he should not have jumped the gun on this story when he claimed it could be drivers. I believe he did what he did because he got a bit of notoriety from der8auer but I guess he learned his lesson. He got beat down in the comment section by AMD fanboys on his first video, lol. 

 

Intel I226V has always been problematic and so were the I225V B2 and earlier. The only one that isn't having major issues is I225V B3 and that is the one I am searching for, to build a new pfsense firewall for my 1.5Gig internet connection. 

 

 

[Rage Set]

4 hours ago, ryan said:

I did a lapse

 

stock

 

40/40

 

80/80

 

120/120

160/160

 

180/180

 

so as you can see with my buggy buggery. nothing seems to add alot at no clocks. any help?

 

 

under volted

 

 

 

Are you overclocking for stable gaming or to see how far you can push the laptop?

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, cylix said:

Yes then the only options are something like the high tier: amp,  suprim, strix or the aorus master.

 

Also FE is a good choice unlocked 600 w power and also 20+4 phases

I don't think I have ever seen a 4090 FE available for purchase before. All I have ever seen is "sold out" at Best Buy.