*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Etern4l]

ECC indeed seems to be of no use to most people, not only does it slow the GPU down, but perhaps a little surprisingly it also increases memory utilization, so same content will now require a bit more VRAM. Probably not hugely noticeable in games though.

I ran it for a while (with a very conservative OC) and there were no errors ever detected and corrected so why bother.

[Mr. Fox]

I can see what they are saying now, but still do not agree with requiring ECC enabled. This will probably move up in ranking on HWBOT when they finish deleting scores that cannot demonstrate ECC was enabled. It knocks roughly 1,000 points off in Time Spy. My CPU and GPU are both overclocked higher than systems with benchmark scores higher than mine. My physics score is much higher, but their GPU scores are off the charts with ECC disabled. There is no point in my submitting scores that beat theirs with ECC disabled if HWBOT is just going to delete them later like they have done to @johnksssand @Papusanalready.

 

@electrosoft +1600 memory seems stable. No artifacts.

 

Using the Galax HOF 666W vBIOS.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35634413 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198499_

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88953755 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198507_

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88954202 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198509_

 

[MyPC8MyBrain]

@Mr. Fox is your computer dead? its totally flat lined 😄 

damn that's impressive, what more could you ask from todays hardware 👍

what's the score on CB23 single multithreaded run?

[Mr. Fox]

8 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

@Mr. Fox is your computer dead? its totally flat lined 😄 

damn that's impressive, what more could you ask from todays hardware 👍

what's the score on CB23 single multithreaded run?

This is my best thus far. Once I get the bare die Velocity2 from EKWB (probably end of month) I will work on pushing 6.0+ GHz on all P-cores in Cinebench.

 

[MyPC8MyBrain]

from my little messing around i noticed CB23 is able to take bit more overclocking abuse than all other bench tools, in particular when i locked all efficiency cores to (in my case) 3.6MHz which is what the fastest core clock is set to, i saw a significant increase in CB23 performance doing this, other apps didnt like this especially 3DMARK,

[Mr. Fox]

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/29503996 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198516_

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88956337 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198521_

 

[MyPC8MyBrain]

i just noticed your so called efficiency cores running at 4.8MHz, even native they are at 4.3MHz,
how can anyone call them efficiency cores when they alone run faster then most cpu's from 2 years ago 😄
this 13900k is effectively two CPUs wrapped in one 😮 

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

i just noticed your so called efficiency cores running at 4.8MHz, even native they are at 4.3MHz,
how can anyone call them efficiency cores when they alone run faster then most cpu's from 2 years ago 😄
this 13900k is effectively two CPUs wrapped in one,

I know, right? It's a beast CPU. My cache is set for 50x, too. Things are crazy with clock speeds now. RAM at 8GHz, GPU core at 3.06GHz and VRAM at 24GHz. I wish I could run my CPU P-cores at 24GHz, LOL.

[MyPC8MyBrain]

 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I know, right? It's a beast CPU

what kind of witchcraft is this? and where in the world are we going from here? 😮 

i am sad though i could never fit this hardware level in my one of a kind custom build Corsair ONE chassis 😞 

[Etern4l]

46 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

i just noticed your so called efficiency cores running at 4.8MHz, even native they are at 4.3MHz,
how can anyone call them efficiency cores when they alone run faster then most cpu's from 2 years ago 😄
this 13900k is effectively two CPUs wrapped in one 😮 

 

So you overclocked eCores from 4.3 to 4.8GHz and that's stable. Wow, congrats. LN2? 

[1610ftw]

On 2/4/2023 at 9:42 PM, MyPC8MyBrain said:

yes, D, E, and F are Samsung,

C drive is OEM 256GB Xioxia drive dell ships with,

 

I hope you are aware that nobody is supposed to have 4 full size NVME SSDs on a laptop - there just isn't enough space for that any more. Not even on the new 18" laptops, just ask Acer, Asus and Dell... They also lost some circuit board real estate at MSI and cannot find it any more so now the GT77 only has 3 slots instead of 4 in the last generation 😄

[MyPC8MyBrain]

we still get 4 full size bays in the 7770 chassis,
i believe the half size open slot (marked 5) designated for GSM module can also be used as storage expansion,

 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I can see what they are saying now, but still do not agree with requiring ECC enabled. This will probably move up in ranking on HWBOT when they finish deleting scores that cannot demonstrate ECC was enabled. It knocks roughly 1,000 points off in Time Spy. My CPU and GPU are both overclocked higher that scores higher than mine. My physics score is much higher, but their GPU scores are off the charts with ECC disabled.

 

@electrosoft +1600 memory seems stable. No artifacts.

 

Using the Galax HOF 666W vBIOS.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35634413 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198499_

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88953755 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198507_

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88954202 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5198509_

 

 

Nice! I might have to give that vBios a whirl. What was the GPU-Z sensor output on that Timespy run?

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is my best thus far. Once I get the bare die Velocity2 from EKWB (probably end of month) I will work on pushing 6.0+ GHz on all P-cores in Cinebench.

 

 

Beautiful seeing the KPE Z690 hitting such memory frequencies. I wish it was just a bit cheaper or I would have picked one up. I almost did when they had a combo deal going and included a KB and M for $499.99 but with shipping I still couldn't do the mental math to "math it down" to $400 in my head. 🤣

 

 

[Etern4l]

It's like having birthday 4 times a year with those MSI BIOS people. +400MHz stable RAM speed (with a little contact frame tweak). 

[ryan]

1. Mr fox is breaking 20k im happy breaking 4200 lol

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

@Mr. Fox is your computer dead? its totally flat lined 😄 

Clock speeds being flat-lined at the speed you set is how all healthy computers behave. The only legitimate excuse for them changing from what you set is thermal throttling to prevent damage from overheating. Dynamic clocking is for pansies. 😜It used to be easier to do that than it is today with so many things being corrupted by weirdos with goofy ideas about how things need to be and the cancer firmware they use to keep us in line and guide us along their path of corruption.

6 hours ago, Etern4l said:

So you overclocked eCores from 4.3 to 4.8GHz and that's stable. Wow, congrats. LN2? 

Totally stable with my 13900K just with ambient water cooling. The only thing that needs to be "special" is avoiding lousy silicon quality. What can make it challenging is when the P-cores are decent and don't require tons of vCore and the E-cores are not and require more, since the P- and E-cores use the same vCore value and can't be set independently. If you could control the vCore independently, it wouldn't be hard to do even with mediocre E-core bin quality. You could just give it more vCore and bump the clocks more. The E-cores don't run fast enough to get hot.

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Nice! I might have to give that vBios a whirl. What was the GPU-Z sensor output on that Timespy run?

Core clock frequency was set to 3,060 MHz and averageed  out around 3,016 MHz due to gimping of voltage, Green Goblin cancer algorithms and thermal management limitations of the AIO cooler. I have tested the Gigabutt 600W and Galax 666W vBIOS and neither seems to produce tangibly better results than the stock vBIOS because the power limit is never exhausted. I think the higher power limits are more of a gimmick than a useful feature. As amazing as 4090 performance seems, it is rather pathetic compared to what it would be if we could bump the voltage to 1.200V, 1.250V or 1.300V. That might actually make a 600-666W or even a 1000W 4090 vBIOS useful.

 

I am thinking that the crummiest underbuilt 4090 models are going to run about the same as anything made better as long as the GPU core and memory are not dud samples. I've heard that in some of the YouTube reviews and I think it is accurate because the firmware gimps them all the same way.

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Beautiful seeing the KPE Z690 hitting such memory frequencies. I wish it was just a bit cheaper or I would have picked one up. I almost did when they had a combo deal going and included a KB and M for $499.99 but with shipping I still couldn't do the mental math to "math it down" to $400 in my head. 🤣

EVGA fanboy love aside, it doesn't get any better than a Dark mobo. Given the option of choosing between an Apex or Dark of a given chipset, the Dark wins hands-down every time. Every time I think I might want a Z790 Apex, I get flashbacks of my list of crappy outcomes and my golden 10900KF that the incompetence of ASSu$ destroyed. The white-only option helps with the temptation to throw good judgment out the door. It would be more tempting if the Z790 Apex was offered in black.

 

The pricing of both mobos in criminal, but so is the price of anything else worth having. That doesn't make it OK, it is only stating the obvious. That's just the messed up world we live in now. The best of anything made for PC is priced for people that allow passion to override intelligence and good judgment, and the pricing only gets you something that is a little bit less half-assed than normal. (Says the silly senior citizen that spent $1800 on a god-tier GPU that has been meticulously designed to suffer from erectile dysfunction.) The Dark and Apex are not as absurdly overpriced as a bottom-end gamerpunk 4090.

[1610ftw]

4 hours ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

we still get 4 full size bays in the 7770 chassis,
i believe the half size open slot (marked 5) designated for GSM module can also be used as storage expansion,

 

 

 

I know that design very well but you know it is from last year. Good design with regard to the three m2 / 2280 slots in front next to the battery, same for the 7760, long may Dell keep it.

 

However outside of three workstations from last generation from Dell, HP and MSI even 4 of these relatively slim m2 memory slots seem to be too much to ask these days. We will see what happens later this year when and if new workstations are announced and possibly also some more gaming focused laptops.

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

 

I know that design very well with the three m2 / 2280 slots in front next to the battery, same for the 7760. Excellent design and long may Dell keep it.

 

However outside of three workstations from last generation from Dell, HP and MSI even 4 of these relatively slim m2 memory slots seem to be too much to ask these days. We will see what happens later this year when and if new workstations are announced and possibly also some more gaming focused laptops.

 

Hey bro! I've been meaning to ask if you and your son got that beast desktop build done. I've been watching for photos and benchmarks.

[Talon]

@Mr. Fox you got a 4090?! Awesome. Which model? Sorry haven't jumped through the backlog of pages I have here. 

 

Picked up a new BGA toy.

 

[1610ftw]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Hey bro! I've been meaning to ask if you and your son got that beast desktop build done. I've been watching for photos and benchmarks.

 

Hey bro, stuff keeps breaking around these parts so sadly no 😞

 

Currently we are waiting to get a defective 3080 back from service and before that two systems and some non-computer stuff went belly up and we have been relegated to work on that - it is a damn shame.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

@Mr. Fox you got a 4090?! Awesome. Which model? Sorry haven't jumped through the backlog of pages I have here. 

 

Picked up a new BGA toy.

 

I snagged a Suprim Liquid X "sold and shipped by Amazon" for $1799. I had an Alphacool Eisblock Aurora saved in my wishlist ready to move it to my shopping cart as soon as I confirmed that Amazon didn't ship me a dud sample, but now they are sold out everywhere except for an eBay scalper from Italy offering them for $100 more than MyModMods or Performance-PCs.

 

I haven't mounted the radiator or removed any of the protective plastic from the AIO cooler yet because I am hoping the Eisblock Aurora becomes available soon. The AIO radiator is just standing on end, hose-end-up, in the open space in the middle of my gigantic case. The radiator is just sitting on top of a small cardboard box on the floor of the case to keep the water ports on the radiator higher than the pump in the AIO.

  

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Hey bro, stuff keeps breaking around these parts so sadly no 😞

 

Currently we are waiting to get a defective 3080 back from service and before that two systems and some non-computer stuff went belly up and we have been relegated to work on that - it is a damn shame.

Oh man, I am so sorry to hear that. I hope my bad luck cooties didn't find you. I remember that ditch you had to run for non-computer issues. That project alone had to be expensive.

 

If things don't work out with the 3080 keep my 3090 KPE in mind as an option. I haven't tried to sell it yet. I want to keep it and sell the shunt-modded 3060 Ti FTW3, but keep reminding myself that selling it and using the money to offset the 4090 purchase is the more intelligent move. I don't need anything more than the 3060 Ti in my work computer. Keeping the 3090 KPE just because it's better isn't the smart thing to do, but neither was buying a 4090, LOL.

[Etern4l]

48 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Totally stable with my 13900K just with ambient water cooling. The only thing that needs to be "special" is avoiding lousy silicon quality.

 

Amazing, but yeah - that's much easier said than done. Also your ambient water cooling is anything but ordinary with a gigantic radiator and dozens of fans lol

[ryan]

I feel left out!!

 

All you guys have 3090s or better and im rocking a turbbook 3060 that overheats because it decided to lose weight and be slimmer. I really hope I fight myself and get a desktop in a year or so. would be cool to actually be a contender.

 

on a happy note....I was wondering why no one uses the tech demos nvidia has to benchmark...should show us the best of what the hardwares capable of...heres my face IRA results

 

115fps I remember getting 24fps lol....times are a changing fast

 

[Raiderman]

15 minutes ago, ryan said:

I feel left out!!

 

All you guys have 3090s or better and im rocking a turbbook 3060 that overheats because it decided to lose weight and be slimmer. I really hope I fight myself and get a desktop in a year or so. would be cool to actually be a contender.

 

on a happy note....I was wondering why no one uses the tech demos nvidia has to benchmark...should show us the best of what the hardwares capable of...heres my face IRA results

 

115fps I remember getting 24fps lol....times are a changing fast

 

I have a 3900x ryzen in marketplace I will give you a good deal on 🙂

[Raiderman]

@Mr. FoxHows that surfboard fit in your case? Is someone needing an EVGA DG case?