*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Tenoroon]

1 minute ago, electrosoft said:

 

I wasn't expecting anything outside of gaming gains with the increased cache kinda like what happened with the 5800X3D.

 

Hopefully we see some meaningful gaming gains with the 7800X3D.

 

 

I had a couple of those and I never saw spots like that. I can't say whether they are harmless or not.

 

Is that for your 8700k or a 9900k?

It's for my 8700k. It runs well at 4.5ghz all core @ 1.050 volts and my goal is to get around 5.1~5.2 all core. 

[Reciever]

 

30 usd for an sli cable may seem high but the gtx 280's were free. 

 

Should hopefully get some gtx 690 SLI this weekend. No idea if 280's will play nice with windows 10 lol

[Rage Set]

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

LOOL, and thanks. There is still an major difference. A screen provide info, not pure bling bling show for entertainment as in a nightbar/strip show and not very useful with fans spinning in Red, blue or whatever colors.  More as you put on white paint on the  big letters on your car's tyres. This won't make your car run faster. And you can detach the screen and put it whatever place I want in the chassis or on top of it (magnets/stands on the back side). I don't need have to have it right in sight or connected to the GPU. 

 

Want real bling bling. Maybe buy the card "What the F... version"😀

Tomshardware. Yesterday

AliExpress Sellers Painting Over Micron Memory on RTX 20-Series GPUs: Report

 

Today's AMD news. They are in media almost everyday now..... Maybe all news is good news for the brand?😎 

AMD's Ryzen Master Has a High Severity Vulnerability, Update Available

AMD disclosed that its popular Ryzen Master software utility, which enables CPU monitoring and overclocking capabilities for its lineup of consumer processors, has a new vulnerability, ranked 7.2 (High), that could allow an attacker to assume complete control of the system. AMD has posted a new updated version of Ryzen Master for Windows 10 and Windows 11 that corrects the issue.

 

Yep, looks fun own a AMD system. Never a new day without you can spend it at your desktop and have some fun😀

 

AMD Graphics Drivers Automatically Removed By Windows Update (How To Fix)

6 January 2023 by Tristan Perry

Over the past few months, my Windows PC has developed an annoying issue. Sometimes when I boot up, I launch a game or video editing program… and get hit by lag and performance stutters. I might just about get 1 FPS in Rocket League if I’m lucky! I then check Task Manager, and I notice

 

 

 

 

 

I've upgraded both of my AMD 6000 series GPU rigs to the latest graphic drivers, with no problem. I even let the rig with the 6900XT do a full factory reset within the driver upgrade, it rebooted fine. I am unsure why some people are having issues with it, unless AMD changed something in the driver installer the past day or so. 

 

Thanks for the update about the vulnerability with Ryzen Master. I didn't know there was an update. 

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I noticed these odd spots on the die side of the IHS. I'm assuming they are fine, but do they indicate anything bad or are they just a byproduct of how these IHSs are milled?

This is the way it's milled. Nothing to worry about.

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

Not sure what this guy is doing, but don't do like him....

https://hwbot.org/submission/5204031_zippytek_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_rtx_4090_22650_points

 

Almost all his scores are low with his HOF card.....

Not sure what's up. But isn't this around what to expect from stock performance? But clocks doesn't match

that. And he is an LN"2 boy, so... Weird. Could be a really bad sample, who knows.

45 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

I wasn't expecting anything outside of gaming gains with the increased cache kinda like what happened with the 5800X3D.

 

Hopefully we see some meaningful gaming gains with the 7800X3D.

Yep, but 15% less performance in multi threaded workload is quite a bit lower than expected.

[Papusan]

29 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

 

I've upgraded both of my AMD 6000 series GPU rigs to the latest graphic drivers, with no problem. I even let the rig with the 6900XT do a full factory reset within the driver upgrade, it rebooted fine. I am unsure why some people are having issues with it, unless AMD changed something in the driver installer the past day or so. 

 

Thanks for the update about the vulnerability with Ryzen Master. I didn't know there was an update. 

Update 02/16/2023 02:00 p.m.  Forum »

 

AMD has now provided a new installer for the Adrenalin 23.2.1 that is around 181 kilobytes larger, with which the problem mentioned no longer appears to appear. The download on ComputerBase has also been updated accordingly.

 

https://www.computerbase.de/2023-02/amd-adrenalin-23-2-1-whql-treiber-fuer-radeon-rx-7000-und-rx-6000-liefert-mehr-fps/

 

Yep, AMD didn't want to talk what was wrong. And they did something similar when they throw out the CPU overclock for their audience with graphics drivers a few months ago.

[johnksss]

13 minutes ago, Papusan said:

This is the way it's milled. Nothing to worry about.

Not sure what's up. But isn't this around what to expect from stock performance? But clocks doesn't match

that. And he is an LN"2 boy, so... Weird. Could be a really bad sample, who knows.

Yep, but 15% less performance in multi threaded workload is quite a bit lower than expected.

Nope, stock is lower.

 

And his LN2 stuff is 3090/3090TI.

[Papusan]

10 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Nope, stock is lower.

 

And his LN2 stuff is 3090/3090TI.

Can't really remember the stock scores but even an sligth OC should provide better results (If not the clocks drop). And he bench more than GPU on LN2. Could be he forgot change cooling under subs of course.

 

Stock. You should see around 21K.

[johnksss]

19 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Can't really remember the stock scores but even an sligth OC should provide better results (If not the clocks drop). And he bench more than GPU on LN2. Could be he forgot change cooling under subs of course.

 

Stock. You should see around 21K.

Slight over clock? All his scores are over clocked. 

Even LOD didn't help him....

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89251193

Maybe his sample is trash?

Even with high over clock and high average....

But memory over clock is low.

[Papusan]

11 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Slight over clock? All his scores are over clocked. 

Even LOD didn't help him....

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89251193

Maybe his sample is trash?

Even with high over clock and high average....

With slight overclock I said you should be able reach his results. But his results doesn't really match the high clocks he posting with if not there is something wrong. Not sure how correct Futuremark measure but his average is 3130+ and that should provide better results. Either something wrong with the HW, or he doing something wrong. With terrible bin you won't reach 3130 + on average. Most cards if I remember correct don't do that. They are below 3100.

 

Put it this way... I don't think bad bin cards can reach an average above 3130.  But what I see is lower than expect vram clock speed.. 

[johnksss]

32 minutes ago, Papusan said:

With slight overclock I said you should beable reach his results. But his results doesn't match the high clocks he posting if not there is something wrong. Not sure how correct Futuremark measure but his average is 3130+ and that should provide better results. Either something wrong with the HW, or he doing something wrong. With terrible bin you won't reach 3130 + on average. 

What im saying is slight over clock, should not be able to catch him as he should be up near the top. So either ECC is exposing these people or certain peoples bags of tricks are coming to an end. I think I like ECC on now.

 

Side note:

You can use CTRL-F and set you clocks. Doing this keeps the clocks pretty close to average, but doing so can lower scores.

 

Edit:

Exactly. Lower vram means bad card. If that is in fact the case.

 

Edit: MSI Afterburner Memory over Clock

1000=1438

1100=1450

1200=1463

1300=1475

1400=1488

1500=1500

1600=1513

1700=1525

1800=1537

Or

Maybe you are right and he is sandbagging....

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, johnksss said:

Not sure what this guy is doing, but don't do like him....

https://hwbot.org/submission/5204031_zippytek_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_rtx_4090_22650_points

 

Almost all his scores are low with his HOF card.....

ZippyTek is from Egypt. Unless he is running his stuff inside of a meat locker probably everything is thermal throttled, LOL. That, or his HOF card wasn't a winner in the silicon lottery. I suspect there are some that are not.

 

Edit:  

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

Maybe his sample is trash?

I suspect so. Probably the most reasonable way to explain the poor results.

Edited February 18, 2023 by Mr. Fox
agreement with comments

[Papusan]

Bro Fox. You remember I struggled to get the better 4090 Asus cards as the Strix OC? Maybe Asus lacks cards to sell as I have mentioned before. Because Nvidia want that you instead buy their 4080. Just rumors but it fits damn well with how difficult it is to buy a 4090 Strix OC. Lack of good enough binned chips for their best cards probably forced Asus to throw in the remining lower end 4090 silicon into their cheaper 4090 cards. In short Nvidia try to stop the supply with 4090 chips. And I'm sure Nvidia don't want that the creators buy their 4090 instead for the more expensive RTX 6000 ADA. Limiting supply of 4090 makes sense in their screwed up head/world. 

 

Why pay $6,800 for content creations if you can buy the 4090 at $1,600 or even a custom AIC card at $2000?

 

I think EVGA is happy they got rid of Nvidia and their awful trickery and shenigans.

 

 

 

Only the 4090 have been near a succsess. Rest of the 4000 series launch have been a huge fiasco. Started with the 4080@10GB rip-off,
then followed up with the same 4080 scam but in 4070 Ti clothes at massive premium. When will they be able to see it themself?

[Tenoroon]

I'm about to go to sleep, and decided it was a good time to the delid. Everything went okay I think besides the LM application... I still suck with that stuff. Hopefully I didn't break anything, but I did feel like I used a bit too much LM. I already have PTSD from it after seeing what happened to my 4930mx...

 

And finally, from my own eyes, I was finally able to see why you guys call that garbage under the stock IHS toothpaste. It really looks terrible!

 

(Sorry that some are sideways, phone formatting is a bit goofy.)

 

 

 

[johnksss]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Bro Fox. You remember I struggled to get the better 4090 Asus cards as the Strix OC? Maybe Asus lacks cards to sell as I have mentioned before. Because Nvidia want that you instead buy their 4080. Just rumors but it fits damn well with how difficult it is to buy a 4090 Strix OC. Lack of good enough binned chips for their best cards probably forced Asus to throw in the remining lower end 4090 silicon into their cheaper 4090 cards. In short Nvidia try to stop the supply with 4090 chips. And I'm sure Nvidia don't want that the creators buy their 4090 instead for the more expensive RTX 6000 ADA. Limiting supply of 4090 makes sense in their screwed up head. 

 

Why pay $6,800 for content creations if you can buy the 4090 at $1,600 or even a custom AIC card at $2000?

 

I think EVGA is happy they got rid of Nvidia and their awful trickery and shenigans.

 

 

 

Only the 4090 have been near a succsess. Rest of the 4000 series launch have been a huge fiasco. Started with the 4080@10GB rip-off,
then followed up with the same 4080 scam but in 4070 Ti clothes at massive premium. When will they be able to see it themself?

Right before I got this SuprimX I was trying to grab a 4090 Strix, but from what they said at MC. All 15 cards were bad. And they knew this because they tested all 15 cards. I mentioned this a while back. And the only way they could have known something was wrong was either Asus gave them a heads up or people brought a bunch of cards back. I may ask about that when I hit the Center in the next few days.

[Etern4l]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

ZippyTek is from Egypt. Unless he is running his stuff inside of a meat locker probably everything is thermal throttled, LOL.

 

If they are benching, chances are they can afford aircon too :)

[MyPC8MyBrain]

2 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I did feel like I used a bit too much LM

thats not too much if anything your application there is bit on the "dry" side for my personal taste,

I prefer the "pool" effect on both sides or at least the silicon side, when I say pool I don't mean overdo it just to make sure that  there's enough LM so the entire surface acts like a single surface mirror with no craters so it looks almost like a single mirror surface, when you touch the center there should be enough LM so the covered surface remains unified, its a fine line between getting a unified LM surface and overdoing,

if you are protecting the area around the cpu you should have no concerns even when overdoing, the  thing about LM is not how much you apply its that it runs when hot and can get around and short other components, 

 

[Tenoroon]

I got the CPU back in, and wow. Temperatures are so much better. I can actually run this thing at 4.8ghz+ without having to worry about it nearing 95C. I'm still adjusting clocks and voltages as I type this, and I plan on trying to set the static voltage in the BIOS later today. I can run a static voltage with TS, but every time I set it that way in the BIOS, I've needed to remove the CMOS battery as that seemingly bricks the thing. I am a bit hopeful as the few times I've tried to set a static voltage in the BIOS, they were at higher than normal voltages with the cache voltages adjusted too. I'll try just doing the Core voltage and see if that works. Hopefully nothing goes wrong as I don't want to tear this thing apart again lol.

[Papusan]

6 hours ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

thats not too much if anything your application there is bit on the "dry" side for my personal taste,

I prefer the "pool" effect on both sides or at least the silicon side, when I say pool I don't mean overdo it.

if you are protecting the area around the cpu you should have no concerns even when overdoing, the  thing about LM is not how much you apply its that it runs when hot and can get around and short other components, 

 

Testing of fits/pressure from Custom Rockit Lid (i9-9900K)

 

 

@Tenoroon Did you bake in the liquid metal?

 

[Tenoroon]

3 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Testing of fits/pressure from Custom Rockit Lid

 

@Tenoroon Did you bake in the liquid metal?

I probably should have done this. I didn't use very much gasket sealant (four small blobs on the corners), so I can always re-delid if I notice temps rising significantly over time. If I ever re-delid, I'll make sure to use this guide. If only I had it last night lol. Thanks for sending it!

[Papusan]

19 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

I probably should have done this. I didn't use very much gasket sealant (four small blobs on the corners), so I can always re-delid if I notice temps rising significantly over time. If I ever take re-delid, I'll make sure to use this guide. If only I had it last night lol.

Maye bro @Vasudev can add it in first page for his thread 

 Which Thermal Paste to buy and apply (Traditional and Liquid Metal)

 

Make an easy title... How to use... Liquid metal (with or without Intel IHS). Just use my Imgur album.

[Vasudev]

25 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Maye bro @Vasudev can add it in first page for his thread 

 Which Thermal Paste to buy and apply (Traditional and Liquid Metal)

Added it to OP under notes section. Also subbed to your YT channel.

[electrosoft]

Who wudda thunk it? Tuning memory is important.... (Sarcasm == max;)

 

 

[Papusan]

On 2/18/2023 at 6:11 PM, electrosoft said:

Who wudda thunk it? Tuning memory is important.... (Sarcasm == max;)

 

 

I'm more hanged up in the body😀

 

Maybe the gamers should go back to the consoles? They will save loads of money as well. Mama and papa will be damn happy😀

 

PC gamers are getting fed up with one crappy port after another

pcgamers.com published 1 day ago

 

Everything comes to PC now, but it sure feels like there's something wrong with practically every major release.

 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5206097_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_570_37023_marks/

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5206147_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_570_8581_marks?recalculate=true

 

Edit. A very interesting video...

 

 

This one is also interesting. Almost as Der8auer say their high end paste as Kryonaut don't have long time stability. Well known that Kryonaut thermal paste won't last long. From  7:59

 

[ryan]

On 2/18/2023 at 10:26 PM, Papusan said:

PC gamers are getting fed up with one crappy port after another

pcgamers.com published 1 day ago

 

Everything comes to PC now, but it sure feels like there's something wrong with practically every major release.

 

 and this is the way.

 

very true im tired of this. a game that could run on a 680m now needs a mobile 4090....this has to stop

 

also I would like to add from a few pages back thanks for the kind words @MyPC8MyBrain @Mr. Fox  @Etern4l....and if papusan ever hops on board thanks. papusan I try to say what I say and spark a flame but if theres no wood this fire wont burn very bright.

[ssj92]

On 2/17/2023 at 4:12 PM, Reciever said:

 

30 usd for an sli cable may seem high but the gtx 280's were free. 

 

Should hopefully get some gtx 690 SLI this weekend. No idea if 280's will play nice with windows 10 lol

They work fine on Windows 10 😄