*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

XTU is locked up pretty good, I do not think I can under volt this thing at all. That is kind of unfortunate. 

 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

Yeah I cannot undervolt at all. I am at the mercy of the Auto voltage. 

 

Unfortunately the downside of many modern laptops and why I tend to gravitate towards the same models many times. It comes down to the BIOS options primarily and then cooling. MSI really is one of the few mainstream laptop makers that still gives users the options they want. You just have to plug in the magic code and voila! There you go.

 

What's most painful is going into the Asus BIOS screen of their laptops and it initially looks like their fantastic desktop variants till you try to do anything meaningful. Then sadness washes over you.

 

Gigabyte used to give you decent access to their BIOS options. I am not sure if they do anymore.

 

And of course @Prema is still out there working with a lot of the OEM rebranders injecting his magic to give users access fo a proper BIOS.

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Awesome. Happy to hear you are feeling better. I hope the wife having the energy to balk is a sign she is feeling better, too.

Looks really good, bro.

 

If you are thinking about another case, the be quiet! Light Base 900 LX has caught my attention. I love that it offers more than inversion. The horizontal motherboard option is always the best when it is available. I came close to buying one on an impulse and decided not to. But, if I needed a case I probably would just for the horizontal orientation option. Jay's video shows it in the horizontal orientation I would choose. Most of the other videos do not, but it is Tom Logan's favorite case.
 

As usual... black looks best to me.

 

 

Yeah, she's doing better today. PulseOx is back up to 97 and climbing and, ah, *we* decided she wants the CPU and SSD upgrade but that's it so I ended up spending today breaking down her system, giving it the same TLC, popping in the SP109 14900KS and upgrading her 500GB WD SN750 to a Samsung Pro 1TB along with a BIOS update, clean install and tuned up nicely.

 

One thing I did not know is the newest BIOS releases for the Z690 D4 are really locked down hard with the Intel restrictions and it makes it a PITA to get things to open back up for some proper dialing in. That was fun....

 

11 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

I am glad it has been working very well for you! I always buy and sell laptops so it just happened to be its time. I think most of the issues I had with it is due to trying to use W10 instead of W11. Maybe the new bios update finally bumped the AgesaPI version from 1.0.0.3. I also kind of felt like a 100W PPT limit on the 7945HX3D was unfair while there are 16 inch Lenovo, Asus and Dell laptops with 7945HX at 140W. The RGB effects topped it off as I cannot stand a "boot default" of anything other than a static color. In past MSI Steelseries RGB controllers they had onboard memory but that no longer seems the case.

 

Oh, and it looks like MSI bumped the Raider 18 with 9955HX3D and 5090m up to $5099 so it further makes last years model a better value!

 

Yep, it was an absolute joy to use for two weeks on the road! Zero complaints and as I said, that was just with the newest BIOS installed and optimized defaults. Now that I knocked out our desktops, it is up next for some tuning/tweaking fun. I will say before the bios update, there was a tiny tiny bit of desktop stuttering. Not a deal breaker, but there but after the update it was gone so I took a, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" approach at the time and ran it default out the box. I do know the fans simmered down a little too from the first few days of using it before applying the bios update to where I barely noticed them on vacation except playing WoW.
🙂

 

The 7000 X3D chips with the cache on top are so finicky and sensitive to heat I can understand why but that extra 40w would help to push the performance. For games, it never gets close to cap though for me.

 

Steelseries? Ugh. They did the same thing with their desktop offerings too. My new desktop mechanical keyboard from them won't retain the proper settings. I zinged them in the review over that. They don't retain the full set of controls anymore and you have to have the software running now at all times. With the MSI, the blessing is you don't need MSI's bloated suite anymore to control the RGB or keyboard. The curse is you now need GG.

 

Those prices are simply outlandish. Like I told @tps3443, this will be my daily driver for at least a few years so the 3yr extended warranty is a must. Same for him.

[Meaker]

network build out complete 🙂

[tps3443]

I wonder if @Premacan unlock the bios if I paid him. That would be really cool. 😎 

[win32asmguy]

16 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I wonder if @Premacan unlock the bios if I paid him. That would be really cool. 😎 

 

Try using Smokeless UMAF to see if it helps. You would probably need to set a bios admin password and then disable secure boot for it to work. UV Protection needs both OC support and SA OC support (ram overclocking) enabled for it to deactivate.

[tps3443]

52 minutes ago, win32asmguy said:

 

Try using Smokeless UMAF to see if it helps. You would probably need to set a bios admin password and then disable secure boot for it to work. UV Protection needs both OC support and SA OC support (ram overclocking) enabled for it to deactivate.

This is a stock time spy run as a baseline for comparison. I really do not know how bad this may be. 

NVIDIA RTX 4090 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9 processor 14900HX,RPL IONIQ_RTX

Even though it's a locked down BGA book like many call them these days. I still really like it. It absolutely folds my living room PC which is a LTT Golden sample 10900K/Intel ARC B580. I really need to add more storage to this thing though. The base 1TB is meh. Gaming is ultra smooth. Even if the CPU is throttling at times. 

I honestly really like having a laptop again. I can work in my kitchen, office, living room, wherever I want! 

[Papusan]

 

 

Barely good enough but Nvidia will get some competition in mid end. 

 

Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Review - Beating NVIDIA

Custom RTX 5070 card from Asus cost around $750 in USA. And the RTX 5070 Ti is scalped to around $1000.

 

Nvidia's shortages are limiting PC GPU market growth, looming tariffs also impacting sales

 

Yup, you don't see wrong. $749,99 USD for RTX 5070. This is awful.

ASUS Reveals Day 1 Pricing for TUF Gaming RTX 5070 OC Edition: $739 in North America

 

[tps3443]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

 

Barely good enough but Nvidia will get some competition in mid end. 

 

Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Review - Beating NVIDIA

Nvidia's shortages are limiting PC GPU market growth, looming tariffs also impacting sales

 

 

I'd rather buy that than support Nvidia right now. The way I see it is, these GPUs are going to only get better. If the 9070XT is anything like AMD's prior GPU's then the performance should only go up. The 7900XTX looks pretty amazing right now in rasterization.  It seems like it has come a long way. 

[Rage Set]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I'd rather buy that than support Nvidia right now. The way I see it is, these GPUs are going to only get better. If the 9070XT is anything like AMD's prior GPU's then the performance should only go up. The 7900XTX looks pretty amazing right now in rasterization.  It seems like it has come a long way. 

 

I guess I am going to be shopping in the "midrange" and try to pick up a 340W 9070XT around $750ish. Hopefully the card hits at least 3.2Ghz. 

[win32asmguy]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

This is a stock time spy run as a baseline for comparison. I really do not know how bad this may be. 

NVIDIA RTX 4090 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9 processor 14900HX,RPL IONIQ_RTX

Even though it's a locked down BGA book like many call them these days. I still really like it. It absolutely folds my living room PC which is a LTT Golden sample 10900K/Intel ARC B580. I really need to add more storage to this thing though. The base 1TB is meh. Gaming is ultra smooth. Even if the CPU is throttling at times. 

I honestly really like having a laptop again. I can work in my kitchen, office, living room, wherever I want! 

 

Honestly that is a great score for stock with TIM reapplication.

 

The warranty is definitely a must. I believe with Acer they are serviced in TX so at least its a geographically central location for ground shipping. It can take three weeks for a repair if it needs a new motherboard as those are usually ordered from Taiwan as needed.

 

For tuning on laptops Prema or MSI are the only game in town.

 

For MSI Intel models generally gets the best treatment. They have EC mods that allow running higher TDPs and not needing DTT installed. They also have a simplified control center called Feature Manager too which is much less bloated than MSI Center.

 

For Prema that means the Hydroc Tongfang model sold by Eluktronics. Every year they make meaningful improvements to their systems. This year its a modular GPU board; inclusion of iGPU video outputs; better hinges; miniLED display option with control center option to disable FALD. As usual you can control ALL of the usually hidden config options that Nvidia would rather keep in a canned OEM tuned power profile. I guess the liquid cooling addon is a nice way to get additional power in a stationary setting. They have also changed the memory to no longer be stacked and also have active cooling so overclocking should be more capable in that regard. It also ships with a 420W charger which is a welcome change. TDP is slowly creeping back up to what we used to see with 10th Gen DTR's.

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

 

I guess I am going to be shopping in the "midrange" and try to pick up a 340W 9070XT around $750ish. Hopefully the card hits at least 3.2Ghz. 

 

Why does RTX 5070 even exist? And 5070Ti is close to $1000 with the AIBs scalping prices.

 

Now it's up  to the AIBs pricing the new Radeon cards properly. If there is not major shortage, the prices should never be above $100 premium for the better custom cards. But that won't happen.

 

UK retailer confirms stock of 1,000 units of a single Radeon RX 9070 XT model at MSRP

 

OverclockersUK, one of the largest retailers in the UK, has conrmed today that they have over 1,000 Radeon RX 9070 XT cards in stock. The thing is, this is just one model from one brand, not the entire SKU stock. The retailer also confirms that there are several hundred Gigabyte and ASUS cards waiting as well, but there’s no mention of numbers or whether those are RX 9070 XT or non-XT models

 

 

 

 

NVIDIA's market value tanks again, with $200 billion wiped amid tariff fears

 

[tps3443]

 

 

(8) fans and only 2 wires!!! I love these Lian Li P28 fans! They will match the case perfectly. Once the dual D5 distro plate arrives I can get to building. 
 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, tps3443 said:

This is a stock time spy run as a baseline for comparison. I really do not know how bad this may be. 

NVIDIA RTX 4090 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9 processor 14900HX,RPL IONIQ_RTX

Even though it's a locked down BGA book like many call them these days. I still really like it. It absolutely folds my living room PC which is a LTT Golden sample 10900K/Intel ARC B580. I really need to add more storage to this thing though. The base 1TB is meh. Gaming is ultra smooth. Even if the CPU is throttling at times. 

I honestly really like having a laptop again. I can work in my kitchen, office, living room, wherever I want! 

 

That is a fantastic score bro! After using mine for a  day or so as is to establish baseline metrics on the stock 1TB, first thing I did was update the BIOS, swap in a 990 Pro 2TB and give it another clean install.

 

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I'd rather buy that than support Nvidia right now. The way I see it is, these GPUs are going to only get better. If the 9070XT is anything like AMD's prior GPU's then the performance should only go up. The 7900XTX looks pretty amazing right now in rasterization.  It seems like it has come a long way. 

 

I'm real curious about the 9070xt. Pick one up to play with then upgrade the wife's 3080 is a potential. Looking at the reviews, better RT than the 7900xtx, falls right in between the 7900xt and 7900xtx but closer to the xtx than xt. Basically beats the 5070 outright and trades blows with the 5070ti all for 599.99.

 

Go back through my replies over the last few years. I've always said the 7900xtx was an absolute raster monster even dipping into 4090 territory from time to time but definitely on par with the 4080/S/5080 overall for raster.

 

3 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

I guess I am going to be shopping in the "midrange" and try to pick up a 340W 9070XT around $750ish. Hopefully the card hits at least 3.2Ghz. 

 

I'm going to go cheap as possible. 🙂

 

 

[tps3443]

4 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

Honestly that is a great score for stock with TIM reapplication.

 

The warranty is definitely a must. I believe with Acer they are serviced in TX so at least its a geographically central location for ground shipping. It can take three weeks for a repair if it needs a new motherboard as those are usually ordered from Taiwan as needed.

 

For tuning on laptops Prema or MSI are the only game in town.

 

For MSI Intel models generally gets the best treatment. They have EC mods that allow running higher TDPs and not needing DTT installed. They also have a simplified control center called Feature Manager too which is much less bloated than MSI Center.

 

For Prema that means the Hydroc Tongfang model sold by Eluktronics. Every year they make meaningful improvements to their systems. This year its a modular GPU board; inclusion of iGPU video outputs; better hinges; miniLED display option with control center option to disable FALD. As usual you can control ALL of the usually hidden config options that Nvidia would rather keep in a canned OEM tuned power profile. I guess the liquid cooling addon is a nice way to get additional power in a stationary setting. They have also changed the memory to no longer be stacked and also have active cooling so overclocking should be more capable in that regard. It also ships with a 420W charger which is a welcome change. TDP is slowly creeping back up to what we used to see with 10th Gen DTR's.

 

21 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

That is a fantastic score bro! After using mine for a  day or so as is to establish baseline metrics on the stock 1TB, first thing I did was update the BIOS, swap in a 990 Pro 2TB and give it another clean install.

 

 

I'm real curious about the 9070xt. Pick one up to play with then upgrade the wife's 3080 is a potential. Looking at the reviews, better RT than the 7900xtx, falls right in between the 7900xt and 7900xtx but closer to the xtx than xt. Basically beats the 5070 outright and trades blows with the 5070ti all for 599.99.

 

Go back through my replies over the last few years. I've always said the 7900xtx was an absolute raster monster even dipping into 4090 territory from time to time but definitely on par with the 4080/S/5080 overall for raster.

 

 

I'm going to go cheap as possible. 🙂

 

 

 

That’s pretty good to hear. I’m going to just keep this machine then. I mean, It runs great. The first thing I noticed when playing games on this machine was how smooth it feels no chugging or skips. The panel is very good. I like that I can run 5% brightness on battery and it’s still useable, and I can get about sub 3 hours run time unplugged. I can’t really undervolt it, but that’s fine with me. The CPU is trying to push its self to MAX clocks within its MAX temp range lol. It likes to run on the warmer end, so long as it doesn’t skip around in games I’d be okay with any laptop. 
 

I may look in to further improving its temps, by using different thermal putty.
 

When I re-pasted it. I scraped off all of the original thermal putty, put it in a bowl, mixed in some new thermal paste to make the putty soft again, cleaned everything up with alcohol, and re-used it all 🥴. So, I’m not really sure how effective that stuff is. But I guess it’s good enough. I have lots of thermal paste, lots of Liquid Metal, but no putty. 

[Rage Set]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Why does RTX 5070 even exist? And 5070Ti is close to $1000 with the AIBs scalping prices.

 

Now it's up  to the AIBs pricing the new Radeon cards properly. If there is not major shortage, the prices should never be above $100 premium for the better custom cards. But that won't happen.

 

UK retailer confirms stock of 1,000 units of a single Radeon RX 9070 XT model at MSRP

 

OverclockersUK, one of the largest retailers in the UK, has conrmed today that they have over 1,000 Radeon RX 9070 XT cards in stock. The thing is, this is just one model from one brand, not the entire SKU stock. The retailer also confirms that there are several hundred Gigabyte and ASUS cards waiting as well, but there’s no mention of numbers or whether those are RX 9070 XT or non-XT models

 

 

 

 

NVIDIA's market value tanks again, with $200 billion wiped amid tariff fears

 

 

I think this will be one of the rare GPU launches that even with scalpers (they will attempt to buy up the MSRP cards), the chances of picking one up day one will be good. I want to get in before the tariffs truly hit.

 

55 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

That is a fantastic score bro! After using mine for a  day or so as is to establish baseline metrics on the stock 1TB, first thing I did was update the BIOS, swap in a 990 Pro 2TB and give it another clean install.

 

 

I'm real curious about the 9070xt. Pick one up to play with then upgrade the wife's 3080 is a potential. Looking at the reviews, better RT than the 7900xtx, falls right in between the 7900xt and 7900xtx but closer to the xtx than xt. Basically beats the 5070 outright and trades blows with the 5070ti all for 599.99.

 

Go back through my replies over the last few years. I've always said the 7900xtx was an absolute raster monster even dipping into 4090 territory from time to time but definitely on par with the 4080/S/5080 overall for raster.

 

 

I'm going to go cheap as possible. 🙂

 

 

 

I thought about going the cheapest route, but I want to ensure I get a card that handle 340W - then I can always undervolt when I don't have the power demands. I plan to use this card almost exclusively in Linux. 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

NVIDIA's market value tanks again, with $200 billion wiped amid tariff fears

😂🤣 Great news. Let's hope they lose at least that much more before the weekend. Jensen needs to retire. He is worthless and needs to be replaced with someone that aggressively looks for ways to bring economic destruction and famine to China instead of sleeping with them.

[Clamibot]

Looks like the 9070 XT is a really good card. It's super enticing since its MSRP is only $20 more expensive than what I paid for my 6950 XT about 2 years ago, and it's a big upgrade over the 6950 XT.

 

I know this is FOMO, but I think I'd like to get 2 of these before tariffs hit and relive the days of Crossfire, but with near perfect scaling through Lossless Scaling. I'd be set for a very long time with 2 of those cards giving me a worst case scaling of +80% in any game.

 

I have come to like AMD graphics cards very much after getting used to their idiosyncrasies and learning how to work around those, and I plan on only buying AMD graphics cards in the future. They are a better value than Nvidia and offer superior performance vs their Nvidia equivalents at all performance tiers, at least in the games I play. They work pretty well in applications I use for work too.

 

Usually I do upgrades mid generation and do so once every 3 GPU generations at least, but I may make an exception this time if prices on everything are going to skyrocket. Makes me wonder if the tariffs are just a ploy to jump start the economy by inducing FOMO in everyone to buy stuff up now, therefore drastically increasing consumer spending. I hope this is the case but am prepared for the worst. I'm no stranger to holding onto hardware for a long time as that is already my habit, but it's rare for me to upgrade so quickly, and it kinda feels like a waste of money if I don't need it. However, I also don't want to pay more later, so it may be better to just eat the cost now.

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Clamibot said:

Usually I do upgrades mid generation and do so once every 3 GPU generations at least, but I may make an exception this time if prices on everything are going to skyrocket. Makes me wonder if the tariffs are just a ploy to jump start the economy by inducing FOMO in everyone to buy stuff up now, therefore drastically increasing consumer spending. I hope this is the case but am prepared for the worst.

 

If peope in US are able to buy cards without the increasing tax (MSRP) then you have done a good deal when you sell it when next gen cards is out. You may earn quite some money on your "old" used card😁  

 

When gold is in  reality fake metal....

 

The RTX 5070 Founders Edition is a joke: from the "fake" FPS with AI comes the "fake" heatsink, a decorative cover that does not cool the 90º C of the VRMs

All gamers who waited years for the release of the new generation of NVIDIA GPUs are disappointed, as the RTX 50 has not delivered in terms of performance, price, or availability. We are talking about cards that are..

 

 

 

[tps3443]

This 14900HX machine has been extremely reliable for gaming. No crashing at all, hours and hours and hours with consistency. I’ve got a feeling that even if I could undervolt it, I’d be running in to the “Out of vram error code” anyways lol. I tend to starve Intel chips on voltage and run them bare minimum. Anyways, the CPU is extremely fast for a laptop. Even though it’s all BGA, it’s seriously impressive how we have this in a portable package. 
 

I can’t really pick on the machine. It does the job really well. Especially after replacing the stock Liquid Metal and GPU thermal paste. I run the fans on auto and they are actually quiet. It has a turbo mode which really kicks up the GPU/CPU clocks, but it also kicks up the fan speed to cope with the extra power. This mode is not needed at all, I don’t feel the need to use it, the best part is I don’t have to use it. Auto fans run about 50-60% speed.
 

My experience with the machine.

 

Day 1: Meh it’s kinda cool 🫤 

Day 2: I may want something else, unsure..

Day 3: I love it, I’m keeping it. 😁

[electrosoft]

For those who will be hunting a 9070xt, here is a very nice list of all the available models including all the 340w spec models courtesy of PC Builders.

 

Sorting the list, and it looks like we have  ~8 models with a max 340w TDP including the Asrock Taichi but it does use the 12v-2x6 connector.

 

Asrock has 1

XFX is has 4 (all their OC models)

Acer has 2

Gigabyte has 1

 

Yeston and Asus are unknown atm on that list.

 

Newegg and BB don't have their listings up yet.

 

List:

 

PUBLIC - AMD 9000 Series GPU Models - Google Sheets

 

Video:

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

This 14900HX machine has been extremely reliable for gaming. No crashing at all, hours and hours and hours with consistency. I’ve got a feeling that even if I could undervolt it, I’d be running in to the “Out of vram error code” anyways lol. I tend to starve Intel chips on voltage and run them bare minimum. Anyways, the CPU is extremely fast for a laptop. Even though it’s all BGA, it’s seriously impressive how we have this in a portable package. 
 

I can’t really pick on the machine. It does the job really well. Especially after replacing the stock Liquid Metal and GPU thermal paste. I run the fans on auto and they are actually quiet. It has a turbo mode which really kicks up the GPU/CPU clocks, but it also kicks up the fan speed to cope with the extra power. This mode is not needed at all, I don’t feel the need to use it, the best part is I don’t have to use it. Auto fans run about 50-60% speed.
 

My experience with the machine.

 

Day 1: Meh it’s kinda cool 🫤 

Day 2: I may want something else, unsure..

Day 3: I love it, I’m keeping it. 😁

 

Yeah it was day ~5 on vacation and it was a "down" day (translation, we walked magic kingdom the day before and covered over 9 miles of walking). Wifey had her Asus laptop, me the MSI and daughter was working on classwork, so we settled in to some hardcore playing and 6hrs later I looked up and just went, "Yeah, this thing is SOLID." Cleared all my raids, 5 mans, ORB and a crap ton of outdoor stuff.

 

The big screen experience just can't be beat.

 

Then I played some Fallout76 and yeah, that X3D and FO76 are just made for each other even on laptops. It smashed my NH55 even at higher resolution badly.

 

I did have some travel planned for tomorrow but that has obviously been canceled but we have more at next month for an out of state wedding so it will get workout #2.

 

And yeah, at its core is still the sus 14900 chip so be careful. I know @Prema had a MC update you could launch on every startup that would update the MC for laptops to give them protection but I'm assuming Acer already implemented it with a BIOS update?

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

For those who will be hunting a 9070xt, here is a very nice list of all the available models including all the 340w spec models courtesy of PC Builders.

 

Sorting the list, and it looks like we have  ~8 models with a max 340w TDP including the Asrock Taichi but it does use the 12v-2x6 connector.

 

Asrock has 1

XFX is has 4 (all their OC models)

Acer has 2

Gigabyte has 1

 

Yeston and Asus are unknown atm on that list.

 

Newegg and BB don't have their listings up yet.

It is very puzzling and disappointing that ASRock and Sapphire both built an AMD card with the fragile NVIDIA fire-starter 12VHPWR, aka 12V-2x6, aka POS-made-by-idiots-for-idiots, connector. Pretty hard to find any respect for either brand for having made such a deliberately stupid decision.

 

Unless there is something lurking in the shadows with higher power limits that we do not know about, looks to me like one of the XFX Mercury models with 340W TGP and 3100 boost are the only good (least gimped) purchase options.

 

https://www.amazon.com/shop/golfsgadget/list/M3B465V04BYO

 

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

Well, based on those side-by-side clips it seems like there isn't really anything special to write home about in terms of performance. Looks like a pretty lackluster product and very closely matched with the equally mediocre 5070 Ti that offers an unimpressive experience at a higher price. It is interesting see that the word "awesome" is being misdefined to mean that something qualifies as special on the basis that "it sucks less" than the alternatives. I am not seeing anything, anywhere, that fits the traditional definition that I plan to continue using. While it doesn't look like anything awesome, it does suck less than 5070 Ti on the basis of price.

  

 

[Mr. Fox]

So much for the lies about AMD having good 9070 XT stock available. Another paper launch. I purchased one on NewEgg, checked out and got a confirmation email. A few minutes later a cancellation notice due to insufficient stock. Checked out twice at Amazon and same thing. And, scamming already happening. Prices increased in the past hour. So, eff them all. They can keep their janky overpriced lackluster GPU trash and kiss my hind end.

[Papusan]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So much for the lies about AMD having good 9070 XT stock available. Another paper launch. I purchased one on NewEgg, checked out and got a confirmation email. A few minutes later a cancellation notice due to insufficient stock. Checked out twice at Amazon and same thing. And, scamming already happening. Prices increased in the past hour. So, eff them all. They can keep their janky overpriced lackluster GPU trash and kiss my hind end.

 

What AMD has done is subsidized launch prices, and will raise prices after going empty for cards. And people are trying to grab any card they can find now before the Trump tariff bites them in the ass. The GPU prices you have seen today will be good memories in the future🤢 You also have good memories when you remember when ad blockers worked properly with Youtube.

 

The GPU market is only a symptom of greed. And it will  be worse. YouTube's Chief Product Officer, Johanna talk about their latest fantastic deal for US citizens. At least there is no extra tax tariff on top of this madness. She really love you as you can see🤮

 

[tps3443]

44 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

So much for the lies about AMD having good 9070 XT stock available. Another paper launch. I purchased one on NewEgg, checked out and got a confirmation email. A few minutes later a cancellation notice due to insufficient stock. Checked out twice at Amazon and same thing. And, scamming already happening. Prices increased in the past hour. So, eff them all. They can keep their janky overpriced lackluster GPU trash and kiss my hind end.

Yep the gaming days are over with. I still think it’s all a lie. If they can launch and sell a PS5 Pro and keep it in-stock for $699.99. Then They can definitely launch and sell a much lower demand item like the 9070XT for $699.99 and keep it in-stock 24/7/365. We are being lied to 100%. And these companies are ruining the hobby. If the whole

world wants to be a PC gamer and pay $1,000+ bucks for mid range junk they can have it. The truth is, I’m gonna be a last gen man from now on. That’s what I was before. It’s the best habit to practice. I’ll get my 5090 in 2 years! I’ll get my 5090 laptop in 2 years as well. These companies are literally dumping off all stock to scalpers, and system builders. As I have said before, there will be AI ran GPU dealerships in the future with 5-6 year financing options, and they’ll cost like 10-15K lol. Gaming is taking over at a level of holy crap. 

 

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

For those who will be hunting a 9070xt, here is a very nice list of all the available models including all the 340w spec models courtesy of PC Builders.

 

Sorting the list, and it looks like we have  ~8 models with a max 340w TDP including the Asrock Taichi but it does use the 12v-2x6 connector.

 

Asrock has 1

XFX is has 4 (all their OC models)

Acer has 2

Gigabyte has 1

 

Yeston and Asus are unknown atm on that list.

 

Newegg and BB don't have their listings up yet.

 

List:

 

PUBLIC - AMD 9000 Series GPU Models - Google Sheets

 

Video:

 

 

 

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Yeah it was day ~5 on vacation and it was a "down" day (translation, we walked magic kingdom the day before and covered over 9 miles of walking). Wifey had her Asus laptop, me the MSI and daughter was working on classwork, so we settled in to some hardcore playing and 6hrs later I looked up and just went, "Yeah, this thing is SOLID." Cleared all my raids, 5 mans, ORB and a crap ton of outdoor stuff.

 

The big screen experience just can't be beat.

 

Then I played some Fallout76 and yeah, that X3D and FO76 are just made for each other even on laptops. It smashed my NH55 even at higher resolution badly.

 

I did have some travel planned for tomorrow but that has obviously been canceled but we have more at next month for an out of state wedding so it will get workout #2.

 

And yeah, at its core is still the sus 14900 chip so be careful. I know @Prema had a MC update you could launch on every startup that would update the MC for laptops to give them protection but I'm assuming Acer already implemented it with a BIOS update?

 

Unfortunately Acer has no such update for Intel 14th gen laptops. I’ve read that they aren’t really part of the degradation but I guess only time will tell. It really has been 100% reliable so far. 

[Rage Set]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So much for the lies about AMD having good 9070 XT stock available. Another paper launch. I purchased one on NewEgg, checked out and got a confirmation email. A few minutes later a cancellation notice due to insufficient stock. Checked out twice at Amazon and same thing. And, scamming already happening. Prices increased in the past hour. So, eff them all. They can keep their janky overpriced lackluster GPU trash and kiss my hind end.

 

Welp, that didn't go as planned for me. I guess I am sitting this out as well.

[Mr. Fox]

31 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

Welp, that didn't go as planned for me. I guess I am sitting this out as well.

They are all in the hands of scalpers and posted on eBay for double or more their retail value now. So, the only people that will own them are of the same caliber of idiocy as the NVIDIOT fanboys that are willing to get screwed. 

 

Microcenter has them, but that does most people no good since their market areas/reach are so limited.