*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

boom. snagged one 8 minutes in at 4% above MSRP. can totally live with that 😄 could be here by end of this week! w00t w00t!

 

edit: LOL damn i think i was lucky / fast this time around. the shop i got it from was sold out inside of 3 minutes 😄 

 

edit2: no wait, they just got in more supply. enjoy the race, folks! 😄 

 

edit3: aaand theyre gone again....total 7 minutes in stock lulz

 

edit4: aaaand another supply drip just in. ok, enough with these edits!

 

anyone else here on the hunt?

Congrats, brother. Super happy you got what you wanted. I love when that happens.

42 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Anyone want a 5090FE? I got a priority access purchase link from Nvidia. I don’t have the funds to use it! lol. 😂 

 

I may try to throw the funds together. 😬 it’s gonna be a hard PUSH to get it done. 

 

isd12

Nope. No interest in 5090 now, and especially not  an FE engineering abortion. Plus, I don't want to reward NVIDIA for being a scummy outfit.

 

You honestly don't need one. Save your money for something better later on. Minus DLSS 4 and extra fake frames it produces it's not a meaningful upgrade to 4090. If you take those things away it's not that much of an upgrade, even though the ginormous price tag suggests otherwise.

29 minutes ago, win32asmguy said:

 

I thought about trying a 9950X3D.

 

Between the increased latency of the registered memory, limit of around 5.2ghz on air for the 2495x, and the fact that some of my encoding jobs do not scale above 8 cores I was thinking about trying a 9950X3D instead. It would probably be a better chip for WoW given what @electrosoft mentioned with his 9800X3D the other day. Honestly even the tuned Raider 18 felt smoother in WoW with the 7945HX3D paired with the 4090m.

 

Right now is not a great time to build anything though as I am traveling for the next couple of weeks..

The X3D processors are of no special value outside of gaming, but they are the undisputed king in that area.

Everyone else is better served with an ordinary CPU with core parking disabled.

 

If they are cherry-picking binned silicon for the 9950X3D that might interest me, but we haven't seen enough of them in the wild to know if they overclock significantly higher than non-3D 99550X. If they can do 6.0GHz or higher on all 16 cores that would impress me enough to buy one. Not sure why they did not use 3D cache on both CCDs. That might have been more interesting. Relying on a crap OS like Winduhz 11 to identify the game and manage the CPU behavior is stupid IMHO. If the entire CPU (all CCDs) were equally binned and using cache, with core parking disabled that might be a real hell-raiser CPU. Having only one CCD on cache is a turn-off because it relies on drivers and software to function properly, and expecting it to function properly 100% of the time is probably unrealistic. Having to use a POS OS like Winduhz 11 with special patches and software in order to enable the functionality kills the idea instantly for me.

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

boom. snagged one 8 minutes in at 4% above MSRP. can totally live with that 😄 could be here by end of this week! w00t w00t!

 

edit: LOL damn i think i was lucky / fast this time around. the shop i got it from was sold out inside of 3 minutes 😄 

 

edit2: no wait, they just got in more supply. enjoy the race, folks! 😄 

 

edit3: aaand theyre gone again....total 7 minutes in stock lulz

 

edit4: aaaand another supply drip just in. ok, enough with these edits!

 

anyone else here on the hunt?

I’n glad you were able to get one! That’s good that they sold out to actual people probably. What CPU are you using now? I considered building with one of these. I think it’s probably one of the most anticipated CPU’s right now, to me at least. It has the 9800X3D gaming power, and the 9950X beastly multithreaded power all in one. I’m glad AMD took their time releasing it, because I think they had some stability issues with the 7950X3D originally with memory, long training times etc, and just random instability. 

[win32asmguy]

31 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The X3D processors are of no special value outside of gaming, but they are the undisputed king in that area.

Everyone else is better served with an ordinary CPU with core parking disabled.

 

If they are cherry-picking binned silicon for the 9950X3D that might interest me, but we haven't seen enough of them in the wild to know if they overclock significantly higher than non-3D 99550X. If they can do 6.0GHz or higher on all 16 cores that would impress me enough to buy one. Not sure why they did not use 3D cache on both CCDs. That might have been more interesting. Relying on a crap OS like Winduhz 11 to identify the game and manage the CPU behavior is stupid IMHO. If the entire CPU (all CCDs) were equally binned and using cache, with core parking disabled that might be a real hell-raiser CPU. Having only one CCD on cache is a turn-off because it relies on drivers and software to function properly, and expecting it to function properly 100% of the time is probably unrealistic. Having to use a POS OS like Winduhz 11 with special patches and software in order to enable the functionality kills the idea instantly for me.

 

Gaming is one of the reasons.

 

I think the 9950X3D has the non X3D cores so they can hit higher frequencies. I am not sure how high the 9800X3D clocks on air or water but it seemed like it was still less than a 9950X.

 

Even the Xeon needs process lasso to work correctly. If I launch any single core benchmark it runs on any core and not the one clocked the highest or starred in XTU.

 

It would be nice if they released a 9950X special edition with both CCDs a very high bin.

[tps3443]

I GOT IT!!!! RTX 5090FE on the way! Man, the support of this community and trust of this forum and also overclock.net is pure astounding. I was able to get the funds together and secure my order for a 5090FE at $1,999. 
 

Paying more than $1,999 is too much for me. This is very reasonable. Looking back now, I originally had a budget of $2,800 range. Anyways, 

 

I think Nvidia saw how much I was hating on them, and they sent the email to see if I’d still bend over for them 😂 (I did of course) 

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Congrats, brother. Super happy you got what you wanted. I love when that happens.

Nope. No interest in 5090 now, and especially not  an FE engineering abortion. Plus, I don't want to reward NVIDIA for being a scummy outfit.

 

You honestly don't need one. Save your money for something better later on. Minus DLSS 4 and extra fake frames it produces it's not a meaningful upgrade to 4090. If you take those things away it's not that much of an upgrade, even though the ginormous price tag suggests otherwise.

The X3D processors are of no special value outside of gaming, but they are the undisputed king in that area.

Everyone else is better served with an ordinary CPU with core parking disabled.

 

If they are cherry-picking binned silicon for the 9950X3D that might interest me, but we haven't seen enough of them in the wild to know if they overclock significantly higher than non-3D 99550X. If they can do 6.0GHz or higher on all 16 cores that would impress me enough to buy one. Not sure why they did not use 3D cache on both CCDs. That might have been more interesting. Relying on a crap OS like Winduhz 11 to identify the game and manage the CPU behavior is stupid IMHO. If the entire CPU (all CCDs) were equally binned and using cache, with core parking disabled that might be a real hell-raiser CPU. Having only one CCD on cache is a turn-off because it relies on drivers and software to function properly, and expecting it to function properly 100% of the time is probably unrealistic. Having to use a POS OS like Winduhz 11 with special patches and software in order to enable the functionality kills the idea instantly for me.

 

snatched a second one at MSRP and cancelled the first one, 30 bucks saved! 😄😄😄

 

i was actually thinking of you bro Fox when reading through the 9950X3D reviews. its regularly beating the 9950X at the same power budget, it seems they kept all the high bin chiplets for this sku (both X3D and non-X3D chiplets). the X3D clocks up to 5.55, with the non-X3D going to 5.7. funny enough, at the stock power budget of 200W the all core clocks 100-150 Mhz higher than the regular 9950X, pointing to improved V/F curves.

 

so the X3D part MIGHT actually overclock better. wanna give it a shot? 😏😁

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Anyone want a 5090FE? I got a priority access purchase link from Nvidia. I don’t have the funds to use it! lol. 😂 

 

I may try to throw the funds together. 😬 it’s gonna be a hard PUSH to get it done. 

 

isd12

 

Congrats bro! I also saw your other post on the OC forums, awesome fast sale on the 4090!  You always have good energy and positivity so well deserved!

 

For me, the 5090 FE is the way to go and is MSRP or a rare gigabyte/pny model.

 

So far, you, @win32asmguy and @Talon have scored 5090s in our cozy little thread.

 

Interestingly, I had a chance to get a TUF 5090 yesterday. My local MC had two in stock (one normal, one OC) and my boy called me up and told me he was in store with his girlfriend and could pick up both and did I want one of them as his gf could just buy it. I asked which one he was getting and he said the non OC. The OC is $2999.99 + tax = ~$3200. I told him thanks but that's a hard pass but I'll be over to play with his non OC when I get a chance till a properly priced 5090 passes my way. I literally told him, "offer it to tom. He wants one price is no object." He texted me back a few minutes later saying of course tom freaked out with 10 capitalized "YES!!!" in his message. 🤣

 

I just can't stomach that kind of price. At that price point, I might as well get an Astral and go full hog.....

 

2 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

I thought about trying a 9950X3D.

 

Between the increased latency of the registered memory, limit of around 5.2ghz on air for the 2495x, and the fact that some of my encoding jobs do not scale above 8 cores I was thinking about trying a 9950X3D instead. It would probably be a better chip for WoW given what @electrosoft mentioned with his 9800X3D the other day. Honestly even the tuned Raider 18 felt smoother in WoW with the 7945HX3D paired with the 4090m.

 

Right now is not a great time to build anything though as I am traveling for the next couple of weeks..

 

Yeah, the 9800X3D tuned w/ the 5080 I can finally hit some spots where I'm brushing up against 99% GPU utilization in spots the 14900KS was not.

 

One spot is the theatre weekly outside of Dorngal. With the 14900KS at 4k Ultra 10 RT max it routinely sat in the mid to high 80's but yesterday was my first time doing it with the 9800X3D setup and to see my 5080 being pushed to 97-99% even with all that player data (server reset day = busy) was great to see.

 

Cleared the first four raid bosses and while I do run into pockets here and there with sub 99% GPU utilization, the 9800X3D is definitely pushing the 5080 harder and I spent more times than the 14900KS in pockets of 99% utilization.

 

And like I said before, using the Raider and the new BIOS stock on the road w/ a clean install WoW and FO76 ran fantastic especially FO76 which loves that X3D. 6 hour session and me looking over to my wife with a head nod and going, "this thing is solid"

 

Even pushed to ~99%, my fps were ~66-70 over there showing a 5090 would definitely help my fps.

 

With W11 especially, AMD and M$ finally have their core parking pretty tight for gaming and most tests are showing the 9950X3D / 7950X3D properly parks the cores when gaming at all times now. I noticed this last year with my MSI x670e Carbon / 7950X3D that you really no longer needed PL or to just turn off the non X3D CCD in BIOS to play WoW properly anymore. It worked as intended.

 

As much fun as those HEDT chips are, they're no match for AMD, a properly tuned 13th/14th gen i9  or even a properly tuned Ultra 285k for gaming.

 

 

 

[tps3443]

13 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Congrats bro! I also saw your other post on the OC forums, awesome fast sale on the 4090!  You always have good energy and positivity so well deserved!

 

For me, the 5090 FE is the way to go and is MSRP or a rare gigabyte/pny model.

 

So far, you, @win32asmguy and @Talon have scored 5090s in our cozy little thread.

 

Interestingly, I had a chance to get a TUF 5090 yesterday. My local MC had two in stock (one normal, one OC) and my boy called me up and told me he was in store with his girlfriend and could pick up both and did I want one of them as his gf could just buy it. I asked which one he was getting and he said the non OC. The OC is $2999.99 + tax = ~$3200. I told him thanks but that's a hard pass but I'll be over to play with his non OC when I get a chance till a properly priced 5090 passes my way. I literally told him, "offer it to tom. He wants one price is no object." He texted me back a few minutes later saying of course tom freaked out with 10 capitalized "YES!!!" in his message. 🤣

 

I just can't stomach that kind of price. At that price point, I might as well get an Astral and go full hog.....

I was totally done with even wanting a RTX 5090 all together. Then this email rolls through. 
 

Im shocked they picked me. Anyways, $1,999 seems right for sure. These $3,000+ prices are just way too much money. So I agree with that 100%. The AIB companies need to ease up on the MSRP’s. 
 

I always thought of AIB cards as +$50 to +$250 more over the FE model at most. And looking at it today they are becoming the scalpers. Nvidia didn’t increase the price of the 5090FE. So I don’t understand why the AIB’s all increased the price before tariffs even hit. Makes me think it’s all fake and purely for profits and more money. 
 

 

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

boom. snagged one 8 minutes in at 4% above MSRP. can totally live with that 😄 could be here by end of this week! w00t w00t!

 

edit: LOL damn i think i was lucky / fast this time around. the shop i got it from was sold out inside of 3 minutes 😄 

 

edit2: no wait, they just got in more supply. enjoy the race, folks! 😄 

 

edit3: aaand theyre gone again....total 7 minutes in stock lulz

 

edit4: aaaand another supply drip just in. ok, enough with these edits!

 

anyone else here on the hunt?

 

Nice! Congratz bro!

 

I may grab one down the road, but for my use case I'm not seeing as reason atm. 2200/6400 tuned.

 

The reviews show AMD having worked out most of the bugs and kinks of the 7000 series (which also translated down to it too).

 

Imagine when you pair a 5090 with it. 🙂

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Congrats, brother. Super happy you got what you wanted. I love when that happens.

Nope. No interest in 5090 now, and especially not  an FE engineering abortion. Plus, I don't want to reward NVIDIA for being a scummy outfit.

 

You honestly don't need one. Save your money for something better later on. Minus DLSS 4 and extra fake frames it produces it's not a meaningful upgrade to 4090. If you take those things away it's not that much of an upgrade, even though the ginormous price tag suggests otherwise.

The X3D processors are of no special value outside of gaming, but they are the undisputed king in that area.

Everyone else is better served with an ordinary CPU with core parking disabled.

 

If they are cherry-picking binned silicon for the 9950X3D that might interest me, but we haven't seen enough of them in the wild to know if they overclock significantly higher than non-3D 99550X. If they can do 6.0GHz or higher on all 16 cores that would impress me enough to buy one. Not sure why they did not use 3D cache on both CCDs. That might have been more interesting. Relying on a crap OS like Winduhz 11 to identify the game and manage the CPU behavior is stupid IMHO. If the entire CPU (all CCDs) were equally binned and using cache, with core parking disabled that might be a real hell-raiser CPU. Having only one CCD on cache is a turn-off because it relies on drivers and software to function properly, and expecting it to function properly 100% of the time is probably unrealistic. Having to use a POS OS like Winduhz 11 with special patches and software in order to enable the functionality kills the idea instantly for me.

 

I love the 5000 FE series. Elegant looking and compact. EK does have a WB for it. De8auer's is still in prototype/testing phase but the GPU is clearly meant to be run as is. I love the aesthetics of it and how it looks in the case. 🙂

 

But if I'm going to block it anyhow? I would look elsewhere. Gigabyte with a position on the board for a secondary power connector is intriguing. Trying to import a HOF 5090D if possible. In the end, I'd grab the cheapest 5090 with the block I want and call it a wrap.

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The one good thing about the 9950X3D is moving that 3D vcache under the CCD and pushing proper clocks to it now out of the box. Reviews stock for stock show it neck and neck with the 9950x losing a few and winning a few for non gaming purposes.

 

Early reviews it is hard to determine bin quality, so best to wait till more samples trickle in before dropping $700+tax but everything is looking good so far.

 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I’n glad you were able to get one! That’s good that they sold out to actual people probably. What CPU are you using now? I considered building with one of these. I think it’s probably one of the most anticipated CPU’s right now, to me at least. It has the 9800X3D gaming power, and the 9950X beastly multithreaded power all in one. I’m glad AMD took their time releasing it, because I think they had some stability issues with the 7950X3D originally with memory, long training times etc, and just random instability. 

 

 

9950X3D is a no compromises CPU now. You get proper gaming and 16 core magic but in all honesty, AMD has ironed out their core priority issues for some time now so even 7950X3D works as intended.

 

9950X3D clocks higher out of the box than the 9800X3D and the first thing I would do with one is turn off the non X3D CCD and see where the X3D CCD can go on its own as is like I did with the 7950X3D.

 

Your incoming 5090 is going to be tapping its foot waiting on your current setup in many situations now even moreso than your 4090 did.

 

6 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I was totally done with even wanting a RTX 5090 all together. Then this email rolls through. 
 

Im shocked they picked me. Anyways, $1,999 seems right for sure. These $3,000+ prices are just way too much money. So I agree with that 100%. The AIB companies need to ease up on the MSRP’s. 
 

I always thought of AIB cards as +$50 to +$250 more over the FE model at most. And looking at it today they are becoming the scalpers. Nvidia didn’t increase the price of the 5090FE. So I don’t understand why the AIB’s all increased the price before tariffs even hit. Makes me think it’s all fake and purely for profits and more money. 
 

 

 

Yep, the 5090 FE to me is the sweet spot because the odds of landing a $2k Gigabyte or PNY are slim to none. The AIB pricing is just crazy now.

 

To me, the 5090 is a, "in for a penny, in for a pound" scenario. Either an FE or something like an Astral if you're going to go that HAM over it.

 

And yep, AIBs are in it for maximum profit and while tariffs are valid you have to look at it from a few angles.

 

How much is Nvidia charging AIBs?

How much is Nvidia's actual cost per chip/mem?

 

If Nvidia is able to sustain pricing even as costs/tariffs kick in, that means their margins must be good enough and they are actually raking AIBs across the coals leaving them with hardly any room which has been reported before.

 

This doesn't absolve AIBs for being opportunists and jacking up the prices especially with such demand.

 

Either way congrats bro on a 5090 AND MSRP!

 

 

 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I always thought of AIB cards as +$50 to +$250 more over the FE model at most. And looking at it today they are becoming the scalpers. Nvidia didn’t increase the price of the 5090FE. So I don’t understand why the AIB’s all increased the price before tariffs even hit. Makes me think it’s all fake and purely for profits and more money. 

 

And it will  be even more expensive. And what  will happen when Trump also push tax tariffs over on the next location for HW manufacturers factories? China ain't the only place on the globe getting nice tax gifts from Trump. EU, in short all places get same treatments. Same will happen all over also in Asia countries where they moved away from China. Even Taiwan risk 100% tax tariffs. 

 

Higher prices is doomed to stay forwards. And that before the scalper taxes come on top. 

Asus anticipates price increases as it shifts production from China

 

And congrats bro on the 5090 🙂 Very few contries get same treatment from Nvidia. US may get closer to what Nviidia will offer in China. Aka cards people can buy.

 

It seems Nvidia have a lot 5090 FE cards to offer. I wonder how many chips nvidia keep for themself for the prioritized queue. Why bother with their own AIB partners ? 

 

 

LOOL... 

 

Nvidia GeForce RTX 5050 may feature faster VRAM on laptops than on desktops

[saturnotaku]

I signed up for the NVIDIA waitlist for the lulz. Not expecting anything to come of it, but since that's the case, I'll probably end actually securing one.

[tps3443]

49 minutes ago, saturnotaku said:

I signed up for the NVIDIA waitlist for the lulz. Not expecting anything to come of it, but since that's the case, I'll probably end actually securing one.

I also sent a reply to their automated email response after signing up in February. The one that says. “You have been signed up for 50 series notification etc” 

 

I replied the same day to that email, and said “I am a real gamer, I own a 4090 and need a 5090FE thank you” they sent me a direct buy link on 3/11. 
 

So something to try just saying lol. 

[jaybee83]

aaaand managed to place a third order, now 25 bucks BELOW MSRP! this is a good day 😁😎

 

Nvidia, take notes: THIS is how u do supply and sales!!!