Official Clevo X170SM-G Thread

[Clamibot]

6 hours ago, MaxxD said:

Someone could do a few tests between 2080s and 3080 what is the difference. Or just what the 3080 gpu knows. Little teaser for those who would switch to 3080! ☝💪😁

 

/3DMark FireStrike, TimeSpy, "Normal & Ultra" etc..etc../

 

From what I remember hearing, the RTX 3080 is about a 15% performance uplift over the RTX 2080 Super and draws significantly less power. I can't confirm that though as I don't have that GPU on hand. It'd be nice to see someone shunt mod the 3080 and really open it up though.

[MaxxD]

3 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

From what I remember hearing, the RTX 3080 is about a 15% performance uplift over the RTX 2080 Super and draws significantly less power. I can't confirm that though as I don't have that GPU on hand. It'd be nice to see someone shunt mod the 3080 and really open it up though.

 

I will do some comparable tests between 2080 Super and 3080. Just get home from the medical hospital and I can stand for the exchange!😁

[Pfudaniel]

Sure i can do some this weekend. Im in a dilemma tho! I baught 2 x170  barebone. 1x 170sm-g (ztec) with prema bios and 1x x170km-g (origin ). 
 

wich one shud i keep and use 😅

[MaxxD]

14 hours ago, Pfudaniel said:

Sure i can do some this weekend. Im in a dilemma tho! I baught 2 x170  barebone. 1x 170sm-g (ztec) with prema bios and 1x x170km-g (origin ). 
 

wich one shud i keep and use 😅

 

Prema Bios would be very good for me, but the full obsidian software coverage is good and usable. 😀😋

[Pfudaniel]

2 minutes ago, MaxxD said:

 

Prema Bios would be very good for me, but the full obsidian software coverage is good and usable. 😀😋

Wich one shud i keep ? I cant decide what wud be better overal….

[MaxxD]

5 minutes ago, Pfudaniel said:

Wich one shud i keep ? I cant decide what wud be better overal….

 

I would keep the SM-G version!☝😁💪

[Pfudaniel]

Goodday guys! I got a second ztecpc x170smg with prema bios! If anyone is interested PM me!! Its for sale 🙂

[Pfudaniel]

Today i will upload compared benchmarks with exact same specs except cpu 11gen vs 10 gen. 
 

kmg origin vs smg prema 🙂

[Bidelloman]

Ah! The km g heatsink does not fit the sm-g chassis apparently.

Plastic where that pad passes through ( bottom right corner) is protruding too much.

Nice.

[win32asmguy]

35 minutes ago, Bidelloman said:

Ah! The km g heatsink does not fit the sm-g chassis apparently.

Plastic where that pad passes through ( bottom right corner) is protruding too much.

Nice.

 

It can fit. Get it around that obstruction initially then the rest can pop down into place.

[Bidelloman]

8 minutes ago, win32asmguy said:

 

It can fit. Get it around that obstruction initially then the rest can pop down into place.

I know it can. Not there though in my case. For like a couple of very hard millimeters

[Bidelloman]

 

 

 

So, anyone knows which template to use? my own path is 7714 1558 which does not exist apparently in that list.

 

I tried the standard method of .inf modding by rebooting into disabling driver certification and replacing the id into that 24DC, driver installs but it still won't recognise the gpu in nv clean install, no gsync either

[runix18]

7 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

 

 

 

So, anyone knows which template to use? my own path is 7714 1558 which does not exist apparently in that list.

 

I tried the standard method of .inf modding by rebooting into disabling driver certification and replacing the id into that 24DC, driver installs but it still won't recognise the gpu in nv clean install, no gsync either

It does not exist because the laptop bios generates 20x0 Super series gpu hw ids. Here is your moded inf. replace in the Display Driver directory. Gsync will not work because of 3080 gsync cookies not beeing present in the laptop bios.

nvcvig.inf

[Bidelloman]

1 hour ago, runix18 said:

It does not exist because the laptop bios generates 20x0 Super series gpu hw ids. Here is your moded inf. replace in the Display Driver directory. Gsync will not work because of 3080 gsync cookies not beeing present in the laptop bios.

nvcvig.inf 1.43 MB · 0 downloads

Thank you!

Then how is it possible that gsync and dynamic boost work for @Pfudaniel?

they also gave me a different file to edit: nv_dispig.inf

[runix18]

49 minutes ago, Bidelloman said:

Thank you!

Then how is it possible that gsync and dynamic boost work for @Pfudaniel?

they also gave me a different file to edit: nv_dispig.inf

.inf files by manufacturer

Acer & Gateway = nvaci.inf
Asus = nvami.inf
Apple = nvaoi.inf
Compal = nvcti.inf
Clevo (Sager & other re-brands) = nvcvi.inf
Dell & Alienware = nvdmi.inf
Fujitsu = nvfmi.inf
HP = nvbli.inf
HP = nvhmi.inf
LG = nvloi.inf
Lenovo = nvlti.inf
MSI = nvmii.inf
NEC = nvqni.inf Siemens = nvfui.inf
Sony = nvszci.inf
Toshiba Qosmio = nvtdi.inf
Toshiba = nvtsi.inf

nv_dispig.inf is the desktop cards inf.

I cannot see the pictures that @Pfudaniel posted but maybe he can tell us what he did that gsync worked.

[Pfudaniel]

1 hour ago, runix18 said:

.inf files by manufacturer

Acer & Gateway = nvaci.inf
Asus = nvami.inf
Apple = nvaoi.inf
Compal = nvcti.inf
Clevo (Sager & other re-brands) = nvcvi.inf
Dell & Alienware = nvdmi.inf
Fujitsu = nvfmi.inf
HP = nvbli.inf
HP = nvhmi.inf
LG = nvloi.inf
Lenovo = nvlti.inf
MSI = nvmii.inf
NEC = nvqni.inf Siemens = nvfui.inf
Sony = nvszci.inf
Toshiba Qosmio = nvtdi.inf
Toshiba = nvtsi.inf

nv_dispig.inf is the desktop cards inf.

I cannot see the pictures that @Pfudaniel posted but maybe he can tell us what he did that gsync worked.

Yeah u can use dispig.inf no problems its the same as if u use nvcvi.

 

i have done nothing to it. It might have to do with the bios that's on the machine or the screen itself. But yeah if its not in ur bios u need to edit the bios for it. Wich is a very complicated job but possible to do so, i cud check the coming days if u guys want and provide one. This was my plan at first anyway but after install it was not needed so i did not bother

[Pfudaniel]

There is also a more eazy way, and that is to edit the vbios of the card to trick the laptop to think its a 2080 card. Il check it out what wud be best 🙂

[runix18]

3 minutes ago, Pfudaniel said:

There is also a more eazy way, and that is to edit the vbios of the card to trick the laptop to think its a 2080 card. Il check it out what wud be best 🙂

the easyest way is to edit hw id in bios (or your beeing a Prema bios it might be already modified). Maybe thats why Gsync is also working, beeing that Prema copied the cookies from the KM bios (or heck maybe the whole GPU campatibility module is ported from the KM bios), who knows🤭

[Bidelloman]

6 minutes ago, Pfudaniel said:

Yeah u can use dispig.inf no problems its the same as if u use nvcvi.

 

i have done nothing to it. It might have to do with the bios that's on the machine or the screen itself. But yeah if its not in ur bios u need to edit the bios for it. Wich is a very complicated job but possible to do so, i cud check the coming days if u guys want and provide one. This was my plan at first anyway but after install it was not needed so i did not bother

we have, I assume, the same machine and bios version (1.07.04, from clevo directly): x170SM.g with the same 3080, possibly from the same seller even.

The only difference is that I am using dsanke's bios unlocker, which I use for xmp and some other stuff, how is it then you did not have to do anything while everyone else sits with the same problem?

[Pfudaniel]

1 minute ago, Bidelloman said:

we have, I assume, the same machine and bios version (1.07.04, from clevo directly): x170SM.g with the same 3080, possibly from the same seller even.

The only difference is that I am using dsanke's bios unlocker, which I use for xmp and some other stuff, how is it then you did not have to do anything while everyone else sits with the same problem?

Yeah im using the bios from prema…. 

[Pfudaniel]

2 minutes ago, runix18 said:

the easyest way is to edit hw id in bios (or your beeing a Prema bios it might be already modified). Maybe thats why Gsync is also working, beeing that Prema copied the cookies from the KM bios (or heck maybe the whole GPU campatibility module is ported from the KM bios), who knows🤭

This is possible indeed, if u dont have prema bios its recommended to use xmg one anyway.. unless u wanne use dsanke unlocker. But yeah lets see

[Bidelloman]

also, does this mean that every time I update my gpu drivers I have to use the same trick?

[runix18]

2 minutes ago, Bidelloman said:

also, does this mean that every time I update my gpu drivers I have to use the same trick?

If one does not edit your bios, yes you will need to do the same trick everytime.

[Bidelloman]

5 minutes ago, runix18 said:

If one does not edit your bios, yes you will need to do the same trick everytime.

we desperately need a more complete solution to this then

[Bidelloman]

So, I re installed my 2080s because I wanted to test if it still worked. I cleaned it beforehand with alcohol, let it dry etc. When I put it back I did put the heatsink and fans but not all the screws or the paste ( gpu side).

 

After some boot attempts I heard boiling, so closed the pc immediately, re opened it immediately and saw bubbles of "water" ( could not have been since I used alcohol only), and a smell as if something was cooking.

 

Now, the pc works with the 3080, I tested it afterwards and everything is fine, however I cannot boot the 2080s it seems.

At inspection, the gpu is fine, there is nothing (even under lens) that would suggest short circuits, broken connectors, burned bus or anything, but there is something else: when I first removed the 2080s for cleaning, I am fairly certain a small amount of liquid metal went under one of the vram chips, and I made my best efforts to remove and clean everything before doing this attempt.

I also cleared cmos battery to prevent issues with gpu swapping.

 

Do you think my gpu is dead? Is there any way to test it elsewhere that does not involve risking my main and only pc?