Official Clevo X170KM-G Thread

[rcghalohell]

3 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Try messing around with the LEDs using OpenRGB: https://openrgb.org/

 

I was able to turn them off this way after some messing around. After shutting them off, restarting the laptop may fix your problem.

what kind of messing around?

[Clamibot]

35 minutes ago, rcghalohell said:

what kind of messing around?

 

 

Set all the zones to black, then restart your laptop and see if that helps with your issue.

 

If I remember correctly, when you first launch this program, it will ask you something about configuring the zones. Select D_LED1 Bottom, D_LED2 Top, and Motherboard as your zones that you'll be modifying the colors for.

 

Zone breakdown:

• Zone D_LED1 Bottom is the light bar at the back of the laptop.
• Zone D_LED2 Top is the keyboard.
• Zone Motherboard is the two lights on the sides of the laptop.

[Sydneyblue]

Hello all Is the X170 good now ? 

[crossshot]

For me not - maybe with 10th gen CPU but mine with 11gen still crashes from time to time...

[Clamibot]

4 hours ago, Sydneyblue said:

Hello all Is the X170 good now ? 

 

The SM-G is, but from what I'm seeing, the KM-G still has issues.

[electrosoft]

So what are the top 5 persistent issues/problems with the X170KM-G?

 

 

[crossshot]

I can only talk about my problems:

- system is not stable; from time to time the system shutdown without any visible reason (event viewer only detect and uncontrolled shutdown)

- problems with Nvidia driver (bought Forza Horizion 5 - it crashed more than 8 times in 2 hours)

- its very loud

- its very hot

- battery is more an UPS as a battery for mobile working

- the two power supplys are not comfortable (heavy and big) and you NEED both of them. The notebook don't charge/work with only one of it

For me, there is no reason to buy it. A XMG Pro 17 is faster with i9-12900H and RTX 3080Ti 16GB. It can't handle 128GB of RAM and has "only" M.2 slot, but its the better choise in my opinion.

[Clamibot]

I was originally going to get the KM-G model but decided to get the SM-G model with Premamod from zTecpc since I saw a good deal on it. I'm glad to see I made the right choice since there seems to be nothing but complaints about the KM-G model.

[1610ftw]

23 hours ago, crossshot said:

I can only talk about my problems:

- system is not stable; from time to time the system shutdown without any visible reason (event viewer only detect and uncontrolled shutdown)

- problems with Nvidia driver (bought Forza Horizion 5 - it crashed more than 8 times in 2 hours)

- its very loud

- its very hot

- battery is more an UPS as a battery for mobile working

- the two power supplys are not comfortable (heavy and big) and you NEED both of them. The notebook don't load/work with only one of it

For me, there is no reason to buy it. A XMG Pro 17 is faster with i9-12900H and RTX 3080Ti 16GB. It can't handle 128GB of RAM and has "only" M.2 slot, but its the better choise in my opinion.

 

I have been quite happy with the 10850K in my X170 with all memory slots and 3 out of 4 storage slots in use. CPU performance has obviously improved in leaps and bounds with Alder Lake and regarding single core also with Rocket Lake so there is no denying that a half decent laptop with a 12900H should give equal or better CPU performance.

 

As for the other issues of being loud, hot and having short battery life that also applies to the SM-G version. The same goes for the assinine power supply design that forces us to always drag these two power supplies with us for no good reason except that Clevo was very very stupid when designing this power delivery train wreck.

[ViktorV]

Guys, all the best! Repost from our Clevo group. One of the group members ran Optimus on x170km-g, so it's possible.     "After manipulating the unlocked bios from the dream machine, I managed to run nvidia optimus on x170-KM 😁! At first I thought that I would have to switch video cards manually (using windows settings), but the system worked as it should. Windows automatically switches cards based on load. In games, a discrete is connected, and in idle mode and in office tasks, the video core built into the processor works. There was even an optimus icon in the tray, which correctly shows which of the vidyuhi is working at a certain moment. Switching between vidyuhi, surprisingly happens smoothly and without crutches. Also, when a monitor is connected via HDMI, a discrete card automatically starts working and the signal from it goes directly to the monitor. When working through the laptop's built-in display, the video signal from the discrete goes through the processor core, which may lead to a slight performance degradation. G-SYNC technology, of course, will not work with optimus turned on."

[1610ftw]

2 hours ago, ViktorV said:

Guys, all the best! Repost from our Clevo group. One of the group members ran Optimus on x170km-g, so it's possible.     "After manipulating the unlocked bios from the dream machine, I managed to run nvidia optimus on x170-KM 😁! At first I thought that I would have to switch video cards manually (using windows settings), but the system worked as it should. Windows automatically switches cards based on load. In games, a discrete is connected, and in idle mode and in office tasks, the video core built into the processor works. There was even an optimus icon in the tray, which correctly shows which of the vidyuhi is working at a certain moment. Switching between vidyuhi, surprisingly happens smoothly and without crutches. Also, when a monitor is connected via HDMI, a discrete card automatically starts working and the signal from it goes directly to the monitor. When working through the laptop's built-in display, the video signal from the discrete goes through the processor core, which may lead to a slight performance degradation. G-SYNC technology, of course, will not work with optimus turned on."

 

 

 

Wow, now this is a surprise!

 

Looks VERY interesting for some of us who actually want to use their X170KM-G away from the power outlet from time to time. Again I am puzzled why Clevo would not offer it as a stock option like other manufacturers do, just make the default Optimus off and the performance would be the same as without the option. Makes it even harder to respect them given the broken and limited bios they ship these with.

[Katza]

On 9/24/2022 at 5:42 PM, crossshot said:

For me not - maybe with 10th gen CPU but mine with 11gen still crashes from time to time...

I haven't had a crash in months... I'm with 11th gen,
Are you overclocking or using stock configuration?

[Katza]

• 2022-09-21: Added Driver-Creative_SoundBlaster_Atlas_App.zip - Please see README
  https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-id-xul17e21/

[crossshot]

2 hours ago, Katza said:

I haven't had a crash in months... I'm with 11th gen,
Are you overclocking or using stock configuration?

No OC. Its disabled in BIOS.

 

Did you use Win10 or 11?

[Katza]

2 hours ago, crossshot said:

No OC. Its disabled in BIOS.

 

Did you use Win10 or 11?

I'm on Win 10

[Katza]

Realtek Audio Driver is also updated on XMG website to v6.0.9394.1 (23/9/22)

https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-id-xul17e21/

[Clamibot]

13 hours ago, ViktorV said:

Guys, all the best! Repost from our Clevo group. One of the group members ran Optimus on x170km-g, so it's possible.     "After manipulating the unlocked bios from the dream machine, I managed to run nvidia optimus on x170-KM 😁! At first I thought that I would have to switch video cards manually (using windows settings), but the system worked as it should. Windows automatically switches cards based on load. In games, a discrete is connected, and in idle mode and in office tasks, the video core built into the processor works. There was even an optimus icon in the tray, which correctly shows which of the vidyuhi is working at a certain moment. Switching between vidyuhi, surprisingly happens smoothly and without crutches. Also, when a monitor is connected via HDMI, a discrete card automatically starts working and the signal from it goes directly to the monitor. When working through the laptop's built-in display, the video signal from the discrete goes through the processor core, which may lead to a slight performance degradation. G-SYNC technology, of course, will not work with optimus turned on."

 

Dude this is amazing news! This gives me hope that I will one day see amazing battery life on my SM-G.

 

I love this laptop, but I really would like better battery life from it, cause you know the point of laptops is to be able to use them away from a power outlet for a significant amount of time. Given that there is an iGPU present on the system, there isn't any reason to not use it when on the go. You just proved it can be done.

[ViktorV]

7 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Dude this is amazing news! This gives me hope that I will one day see amazing battery life on my SM-G.

 

I love this laptop, but I really would like better battery life from it, cause you know the point of laptops is to be able to use them away from a power outlet for a significant amount of time. Given that there is an iGPU present on the system, there isn't any reason to not use it when on the go. You just proved it can be done.

Unfortunately, this is only possible on the x170km-g model, since the motherboard has MUX and the communication lines with igpu are routed on the board, and x170sm-g is unfortunately deprived of this, so it will not work to run igpu on this model.

[ViktorV]

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/fYx0wGpaVDGmIg         I'm posting the bios unlocker x170km-g, I think it's possible now, since the model has been discontinued))).

[Clamibot]

1 hour ago, ViktorV said:

Unfortunately, this is only possible on the x170km-g model, since the motherboard has MUX and the communication lines with igpu are routed on the board, and x170sm-g is unfortunately deprived of this, so it will not work to run igpu on this model.

 

Aww man. Thanks for letting me know though.

 

That's very strange that Clevo included a MUX and the traces to the iGPU only on the KM-G model but never made use of the MUX. You'd think it would be present on both the SM-G and KM-G. Regardless, it makes no sense as to why this capability was never utilized.

[ViktorV]

11 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

Aww man. Thanks for letting me know though.

 

That's very strange that Clevo included a MUX and the traces to the iGPU only on the KM-G model but never made use of the MUX. You'd think it would be present on both the SM-G and KM-G. Regardless, it makes no sense as to why this capability was never utilized.

The point is most likely that Clevo is mostly a platform developer for other companies than the manufacturer, so perhaps this platform was developed with the maximum layout options, that is, they wanted to make the most versatile platform, but apparently something went wrong and they did not continue to refine the software part.

[crossshot]

11 hours ago, ViktorV said:

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/fYx0wGpaVDGmIg         I'm posting the bios unlocker x170km-g, I think it's possible now, since the model has been discontinued))).

What can i do with this tool?

[ViktorV]

27 minutes ago, crossshot said:

What can i do with this tool?

Unlock hidden features in the bios menu.1. Run the Flash.bat file with administrator rights
2. Choose option 1 or 2
3. Wait for the completion of the required operations, at the end a message will appear that everything is done.
4. Reboot, enter BIOS again and reset BIOS to default, return to BIOS after restart again
5. Unlock everything (any options you need) and boom enjoy

[crossshot]

Thanks, i will try. I execute the .bat file yesterday but saw no difference in bios. But i don't set settings to default.

[Dezmoond0]

2 hours ago, crossshot said:

 

I'm not sure, but in my opinion it does not work with bios from xmg