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On 12/10/2022 at 12:57 PM, ssj92 said:

Oh it’s really coming out, don’t worry. 😉
 

btw @ViktorV where is this clevo bios unlocker? May need it for my x170sm-g next week. 

I don't own a X170SM, but I saved it when it was in NBR two years back, from this topic: https://www.nbrchive.net/xfa/sager-and-clevo.1017/X170SM Unlocked Bios Here Plus ALL drivers/

Is this one you're looking for? Too big to upload to attachment, but you can DM me. BTW the second file link in the archived post works if you want to try that.

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6 hours ago, ssj92 said:

We know since October there will be a RTX 4090 Mobile. Have patience we will see the performance soon 😉 

 

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If you look closely above the performance has already been posted.

 

Nvidia apparently could not make up their mind from the start about how to name the top tier card but when in fantasy land it is apparently best to go all in and they thought that with no performance relation to anything in the desktop sector any more why not call the GN21-X11 GPU the RTX 4090.

 

As you can see in the chart in my post somebody may have suggested that 4080 ti would be a more fitting name given the (lack) of performance of that GN21-X11 GPU but the marketing department seems to have prevailed and went with an "easier" nomenclature of 4070/4080/4090 instead of the other two options.

 

So to sum things up from what it currently looks like for the top tier GPUs:

 

initial naming convention:

4070/4080 Ti / 4090

 

leaked TimeSpy benchmarks

4070/4080/4080 Ti

 

names based on HP Omen release infos:

4070/4080/4090

 

option that would have seemed more logical based on performance and chips being used:

4070/4070 Ti/4080

 

 

Compare that to Intel where the desktop 13700 and the laptop 13700HX are much more similar and where it could be argued that they are close enough for the laptop version to be rightfully called 13700HX.

 

Nvidia on the other hand chose a chip that is by all accounts based on a dumbed down version of the desktop 4080, put it in a laptop with severe power restrictions and called it 4090. As somebody else said: They do not call them Ngreedia for nothing....

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

If you look closely above the performance has already been posted.

 

Nvidia apparently could not make up their mind from the start about how to name the top tier card but when in fantasy land it is apparently best to go all in and they thought that with no performance relation to anything in the desktop sector any more why not call the GN21-X11 GPU the RTX 4090.

 

As you can see in the chart in my post somebody may have suggested that 4080 ti would be a more fitting name given the (lack) of performance of that GN21-X11 GPU but the marketing department seems to have prevailed and went with an "easier" nomenclature of 4070/4080/4090 instead of the other two options.

 

So to sum things up from what it currently looks like for the top tier GPUs:

 

initial naming convention:

4070/4080 Ti / 4090

 

leaked TimeSpy benchmarks

4070/4080/4080 Ti

 

names based on HP Omen release infos:

4070/4080/4090

 

option that would have seemed more logical based on performance and chips being used:

4070/4070 Ti/4080

 

 

Compare that to Intel where the desktop 13700 and the laptop 13700HX are much more similar and where it could be argued that they are close enough for the laptop version to be rightfully called 13700HX.

 

Nvidia on the other hand chose a chip that is by all accounts based on a dumbed down version of the desktop 4080, put it in a laptop with severe power restrictions and called it 4090. As somebody else said: They do not call them Ngreedia for nothing....

 

 

 

Unless nVidia wants to be 2nd fastest notebook gpu they will push for the crown. 

 

AMD RX 7900M (or w/e final name becomes) is looking around rx 6950 xt desktop performance. 

 

So we will see if they fine tune performance for launch. 

 

The 10/20 series GPUs were named well because they actually shared desktop specs on laptop 

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2 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Unless nVidia wants to be 2nd fastest notebook gpu they will push for the crown. 

 

AMD RX 7900M (or w/e final name becomes) is looking around rx 6950 xt desktop performance. 

 

So we will see if they fine tune performance for launch. 

 

The 10/20 series GPUs were named well because they actually shared desktop specs on laptop 

 

Agreed on the 10/20 series that did not have the huge performance differential although it already opened up with the 20x cards.

 

AND rumors are just that and from what it looks like these cards are still some months out while the first laptops with the Nvidia solution should be available starting next month. So how much real pressure Nvidia feels from AMD in the laptop sector is hard to say.

 

As the 4090 is derived from the desktop 4080 Nvidia could easily allow the 4090 mobile to reach 3090 levels but for that they will have to allow more power and possibly more cuda cores than have been rumored so far. Upping max power uptake to up to 200W + 50W Boost or even leaving it to manufacturers how much power they want to handle is easily done in theory but may be hard to pull off if Nvidia already told all the laptop companies that max power uptake would be 175W.

 

In any case not holding my breath in the short term but I agree that Nvidia will not want AMD to take the laptop crown and they will probably have some kind of answer to prevent that from happening if AMD is releasing a mobile card that is as good as some rumors say (RTX 3090 levels). Would be great to finally have some competition in the laptop world 🙂

 

@mods: Maybe we could place the mobile GPU discussion in the tech news section?

Current gen GPUs sadly do not seem to have any relevance for the X170KM-G so it may be better to have it there?

 

 

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Hello everyone. After installing Control Center 3.75 on windows, the abrupt shutdowns of the laptop stopped. But on linux with tuxedo control center, the laptop also turns off. You need to take out the battery to turn it on. This problem is somehow related to the fans. When the fan control module is not installed in the system, the laptop works well. But when the fan control module is installed, the laptop is unstable. Has anyone figured out why this is happening and how to solve this problem?
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On 3/9/2022 at 12:22 AM, electrosoft said:

 

So true.

 

For a fleeting moment there I had both the SM and the KM but having used the SM already for a few months the KM was so locked down and problematic I had to send it back. I figured I'd wait till they worked out some more of the kinks with the BIOS, memory slots and get Prema going but I think they've moved on for the most part which would be a shame if it is left as is.

 

I agree; the icing on the cake would be a last Prema update with 11th gen enabled or a Dsanke level BIOS for the SM and KM.

 

 

 

 

 

So it has been ~1yr since I bought (and returned) my X170KM-G.

 

I picked up another one that should be here next week to give it a, "round 2" treatment and see where it stands in light of both XMGs continued BIOS advancements and access to unlocking the stock BIOS to some degree.

 

I also greatly expanded the launch page posting to address some general concerns and questions for those who find this thread which now pops up near the top on google search.

 

 

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On 12/13/2022 at 9:36 AM, Sergey Muratov said:

Hello everyone. After installing Control Center 3.75 on windows, the abrupt shutdowns of the laptop stopped. But on linux with tuxedo control center, the laptop also turns off. You need to take out the battery to turn it on. This problem is somehow related to the fans. When the fan control module is not installed in the system, the laptop works well. But when the fan control module is installed, the laptop is unstable. Has anyone figured out why this is happening and how to solve this problem?
Sorry for the bad English

 

We talking about the modded CCC 3.75?

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Can someone with rtx 3080 do stock firestrike and timespy run for me? 
 

curious to see how it performs 

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3 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Can someone with rtx 3080 do stock firestrike and timespy run for me? 
 

curious to see how it performs 

 

For some context I got the following scores with other cards pure stock:

 

X170KM-G 3060 Timespy GPU = 9025

X170SM-G 2080S Timespy GPU = 11200

 

But these were with older drivers.

 

I'll have an X170KM-G in this week with a 3070 I'll give a run to compare against someone's X170KM-G w/ 3080 but I expect the stock score to be ~13200 GPU (+/- 200)

 

 

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Found some results here: 

 

As expected, the 1080p panel doesn't do the rtx 3080 justice as the performance gap between 3080 and 2080 is even less at 1080p vs 1440p. 

 

I may just keep 2070S in my SM-G unless I stumble across 3080 for cheap in the future. 

 

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On 12/18/2022 at 11:53 PM, electrosoft said:

 

For some context I got the following scores with other cards pure stock:

 

X170KM-G 3060 Timespy GPU = 9025

X170SM-G 2080S Timespy GPU = 11200

 

But these were with older drivers.

 

I'll have an X170KM-G in this week with a 3070 I'll give a run to compare against someone's X170KM-G w/ 3080 but I expect the stock score to be ~13200 GPU (+/- 200)

 

 

 

Looking forward to hear from you brother, which CPU will be in yours?

 

I wanted to do the upgrade to the Optimus capable bios but lost interest as I got pissed off that I can only use 3 out of 4 NVME slots with the 10850K and 10900K at my disposal but I do not want to go back from 10 to 8 cores for that stupid 11xxx CPU generation and I would also like to keep my 4 SSDs that are currently in a Dell 7760.

 

With only 3 SSDs and the 10850K I had very few troubles by the way even with an early firmware so maybe one of the keys to stability of the KM-G is to not go for that CPU generation and leave that 4th SSD slot alone.

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10 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Looking forward to hear from you brother, which CPU will be in yours?

 

I wanted to do the upgrade to the Optimus capable bios but lost interest as I got pissed off that I can only use 3 out of 4 NVME slots with the 10850K and 10900K at my disposal but I do not want to go back from 10 to 8 cores for that stupid 11xxx CPU generation and I would also like to keep my 4 SSDs that are currently in a Dell 7760.

 

With only 3 SSDs and the 10850K I had very few troubles by the way even with an early firmware so maybe one of the keys to stability of the KM-G is to not go for that CPU generation and leave that 4th SSD slot alone.

 

It has an 11900k, 3070, 64GB 3200 and 1TB 980 Pro along with a 144hz 1080p.

 

It is this one from fleabay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304738788852

 

 

 

It arrived last week and looks almost brand new but I've been crazy busy with the holidays and such. I did manage to set it up and do a couple of stock runs on it with Timespy and CPU-Z and play some WoW before putting it on the shelf till this week but didn't grab a screen shot of course. Out of the box it scored ~11.5k in Timespy and ~14.2k in CB23 so some room for improvement on the CPU front. That was pure stock zero undervolts applied and their BIOS is set to 90c threshhold even so that bodes well for a decent silicon sample. Outside of gaming or CPU stress, the system is really quiet. It is MUCH better than the unit I picked up last winter used on eBay from XoticPC I returned which was crashing right out of the box and had a defective keyboard. I set this one to loop for 30 minutes. Came back and it was just trucking along no problems.

 

Bios is a custom BOXX variant. I had never heard of this company before but apparently they specialized in dedicated workstations and such. It is running 4x16GB 3200 no problem. The Xotic one wouldn't even boot with 4 sticks of anything in it last year.

 

GPU runs in the 60's full load both GPU and hot spot. Everything just *works* with a clean install of W11. This may be one of those RARE situations if I set a good UV and it hits the proper ~15.4k in CB23 without throttling I'm good to go.

 

I even played WoW for an hour and CPU tops out at 80c. I had to work all types of magic with my X170SM-G to get the temps down playing WoW with a 10900k even my Silicon Lottery golden chip I ended up having to delid and with all the ZtecPC Prema magic I finally got it gaming with a max of 78c on the chip. The fact this one tops out at 80c and fans aren't at max AND zero undervolt yet bodes well for a good piece of silicon inside.

 

So far, much better experience this time around.

 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

It has an 11900k, 3070, 64GB 3200 and 1TB 980 Pro along with a 144hz 1080p.

 

It is this one from fleabay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304738788852

 

 

 

It arrived last week and looks almost brand new but I've been crazy busy with the holidays and such. I did manage to set it up and do a couple of stock runs on it with Timespy and CPU-Z and play some WoW before putting it on the shelf till this week but didn't grab a screen shot of course. Out of the box it scored ~11.5k in Timespy and ~14.2k in CB23 so some room for improvement on the CPU front. That was pure stock zero undervolts applied and their BIOS is set to 90c threshhold even so that bodes well for a decent silicon sample. Outside of gaming or CPU stress, the system is really quiet. It is MUCH better than the unit I picked up last winter used on eBay from XoticPC I returned which was crashing right out of the box and had a defective keyboard. I set this one to loop for 30 minutes. Came back and it was just trucking along no problems.

 

Bios is a custom BOXX variant. I had never heard of this company before but apparently they specialized in dedicated workstations and such. It is running 4x16GB 3200 no problem. The Xotic one wouldn't even boot with 4 sticks of anything in it last year.

 

GPU runs in the 60's full load both GPU and hot spot. Everything just *works* with a clean install of W11. This may be one of those RARE situations if I set a good UV and it hits the proper ~15.4k in CB23 without throttling I'm good to go.

 

I even played WoW for an hour and CPU tops out at 80c. I had to work all types of magic with my X170SM-G to get the temps down playing WoW with a 10900k even my Silicon Lottery golden chip I ended up having to delid and with all the ZtecPC Prema magic I finally got it gaming with a max of 78c on the chip. The fact this one tops out at 80c and fans aren't at max AND zero undervolt yet bodes well for a good piece of silicon inside.

 

So far, much better experience this time around.

 

 

 

 

 

Seems the experience is vendor dependent then. That one you got which was from BOXX originally seems to have a good motherboard and good firmware.

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1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

It has an 11900k, 3070, 64GB 3200 and 1TB 980 Pro along with a 144hz 1080p.

 

It is this one from fleabay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304738788852

 

 

 

It arrived last week and looks almost brand new but I've been crazy busy with the holidays and such. I did manage to set it up and do a couple of stock runs on it with Timespy and CPU-Z and play some WoW before putting it on the shelf till this week but didn't grab a screen shot of course. Out of the box it scored ~11.5k in Timespy and ~14.2k in CB23 so some room for improvement on the CPU front. That was pure stock zero undervolts applied and their BIOS is set to 90c threshhold even so that bodes well for a decent silicon sample. Outside of gaming or CPU stress, the system is really quiet. It is MUCH better than the unit I picked up last winter used on eBay from XoticPC I returned which was crashing right out of the box and had a defective keyboard. I set this one to loop for 30 minutes. Came back and it was just trucking along no problems.

 

Bios is a custom BOXX variant. I had never heard of this company before but apparently they specialized in dedicated workstations and such. It is running 4x16GB 3200 no problem. The Xotic one wouldn't even boot with 4 sticks of anything in it last year.

 

GPU runs in the 60's full load both GPU and hot spot. Everything just *works* with a clean install of W11. This may be one of those RARE situations if I set a good UV and it hits the proper ~15.4k in CB23 without throttling I'm good to go.

 

I even played WoW for an hour and CPU tops out at 80c. I had to work all types of magic with my X170SM-G to get the temps down playing WoW with a 10900k even my Silicon Lottery golden chip I ended up having to delid and with all the ZtecPC Prema magic I finally got it gaming with a max of 78c on the chip. The fact this one tops out at 80c and fans aren't at max AND zero undervolt yet bodes well for a good piece of silicon inside.

 

So far, much better experience this time around.

 

 

 

 

could you do a bios dump?
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8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

It has an 11900k, 3070, 64GB 3200 and 1TB 980 Pro along with a 144hz 1080p.

 

It is this one from fleabay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304738788852

 

 

 

It arrived last week and looks almost brand new but I've been crazy busy with the holidays and such. I did manage to set it up and do a couple of stock runs on it with Timespy and CPU-Z and play some WoW before putting it on the shelf till this week but didn't grab a screen shot of course. Out of the box it scored ~11.5k in Timespy and ~14.2k in CB23 so some room for improvement on the CPU front. That was pure stock zero undervolts applied and their BIOS is set to 90c threshhold even so that bodes well for a decent silicon sample. Outside of gaming or CPU stress, the system is really quiet. It is MUCH better than the unit I picked up last winter used on eBay from XoticPC I returned which was crashing right out of the box and had a defective keyboard. I set this one to loop for 30 minutes. Came back and it was just trucking along no problems.

 

Bios is a custom BOXX variant. I had never heard of this company before but apparently they specialized in dedicated workstations and such. It is running 4x16GB 3200 no problem. The Xotic one wouldn't even boot with 4 sticks of anything in it last year.

 

GPU runs in the 60's full load both GPU and hot spot. Everything just *works* with a clean install of W11. This may be one of those RARE situations if I set a good UV and it hits the proper ~15.4k in CB23 without throttling I'm good to go.

 

I even played WoW for an hour and CPU tops out at 80c. I had to work all types of magic with my X170SM-G to get the temps down playing WoW with a 10900k even my Silicon Lottery golden chip I ended up having to delid and with all the ZtecPC Prema magic I finally got it gaming with a max of 78c on the chip. The fact this one tops out at 80c and fans aren't at max AND zero undervolt yet bodes well for a good piece of silicon inside.

 

So far, much better experience this time around.

 

 

 

 

Funny, I offered this guy $1,400 cash (he had it at $1,599 at first) since I found he was local. He said no. Then 1 week later after I bought mine from zTecPC he said if I still wanted it. He made way less due to fees and shipping. Oh well 

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9 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Seems the experience is vendor dependent then. That one you got which was from BOXX originally seems to have a good motherboard and good firmware.

 

Yeah I'll get back in there later on this week when things die down a bit. I still have to reconfig my X170SM-G to send in for the RTX 2080 GPU swap.

 

1 hour ago, ssj92 said:

Funny, I offered this guy $1,400 cash (he had it at $1,599 at first) since I found he was local. He said no. Then 1 week later after I bought mine from zTecPC he said if I still wanted it. He made way less due to fees and shipping. Oh well 

 

Sometimes you hold out for more and end up with less. I paid $1350 + S&H for it. From what I saw initially with it using it that one day before the holidays I was pleased. I'm so used to receiving laptops (especially Clevos) expecting to get under the hood and fix all types of issues and problems with initial overheating and crashes like my X170SM-G which was a fun perpetual project in motion for months.

 

Not that 14.2k on CB23 is killer but it was high enough I figured there was a small UV running and/or thermal limits were 95-100. No UV and thermal limit capped at 90 and still hitting 14.2k is a good omen for good silicon and for getting it under control with a simple UV and calling it a wrap. Only thing I might explore is a smaller memory kit with vastly better timings than these stock CL22 timings. Outside of that? Not much for now.

 

Were you able to message ZtecPC and see about Prema for your X170SM-G?

 

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Yeah I'll get back in there later on this week when things die down a bit. I still have to reconfig my X170SM-G to send in for the RTX 2080 GPU swap.

 

 

Sometimes you hold out for more and end up with less. I paid $1350 + S&H for it. From what I saw initially with it using it that one day before the holidays I was pleased. I'm so used to receiving laptops (especially Clevos) expecting to get under the hood and fix all types of issues and problems with initial overheating and crashes like my X170SM-G which was a fun perpetual project in motion for months.

 

Not that 14.2k on CB23 is killer but it was high enough I figured there was a small UV running and/or thermal limits were 95-100. No UV and thermal limit capped at 90 and still hitting 14.2k is a good omen for good silicon and for getting it under control with a simple UV and calling it a wrap. Only thing I might explore is a smaller memory kit with vastly better timings than these stock CL22 timings. Outside of that? Not much for now.

 

Were you able to message ZtecPC and see about Prema for your X170SM-G?

 

 

 

 

No Prema BIOS for me from zTecPC. Idk if they stopped supplying it or they just can't give it to me because my machine was refurbished but there's no way to get it from them. 

 

I messaged Prema but he said he is busy atm

 

If I knew I wasn't going to have Prema BIOS, I would have gone with the KM

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@electrosoftIs it possible to dump of said bios, so i can test it? It might even make my Corsair Vengence 3200MT/s ram work in my X170KM-G as it will not even boot regardless of which bios i use right now.

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Hi everyone, I finally decided to register to the forum, after following it for months (I'm a former Notebookreview user).

I have a Clevo X170KM-G, with 11900K processor, 64 GB RAM Ballistix 3200 Mhz CL16, Nvidia RTX 3080 16 GB.

Thank you all in advance for the great content in this thread ☺️

 

 

On 10/4/2022 at 4:33 AM, ViktorV said:

Go into the built-in gpu only mode and install the igpu driver and after all the drivers are installed again go into the bios and select only the discrete gpu

 

With your utility to unlock the bios I solved a problem I had since the purchase (more than a year), and the seller has never been able to help me, my Ballistix RAMs operated at 2666 Mhz CL19 (Jedec profile #9) , instead after unlocking the BIOS I finally managed to activate the XMP profile (3200 Mhz CL16).


I wanted to thank you very much for the work you have done 🙂

 

I also tried to use the dual video card, but unfortunately even following your instructions the two video cards do not work properly together.

 

1. I activated "integrated GPU Only" and installed the igpu drivers, both video cards appeared in the device list, both video cards work fine, but the nVidia card loses G-Sync functionality (because the monitor is connected to the integrated card in the CPU, and in the nVidia control panel 2/3 of the settings disappear). Apart from this limitation, everything else works with 2 GPUs.


2. I set "only the discrete gpu" again in BIOS, and in the device list the Intel video card disappeared, as if it never existed, then the drivers give an error message because they can't find the hardware. But the Nvidia card has full functionality again (G-Sync working).


3. I also tried the MSHybrid setting, it works like with "integrated GPU Only" (point 1).

 

Therefore, I haven't found a way to have both graphics cards without having to give up G-Sync 😔

 

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11 hours ago, ssj92 said:

No Prema BIOS for me from zTecPC. Idk if they stopped supplying it or they just can't give it to me because my machine was refurbished but there's no way to get it from them. 

 

I messaged Prema but he said he is busy atm

 

If I knew I wasn't going to have Prema BIOS, I would have gone with the KM

 

If I had to guess, Prema was doing all BIOS installations remotely per unit for security reasons and has now stopped the process so none of the current units can get it. Refurb means the system board was probably replaced. This doesn't bode well for current SM owners if their system boards die and a replacement is needed even if from ZtecPC.

 

 

6 hours ago, solidus1983 said:

@electrosoftIs it possible to dump of said bios, so i can test it? It might even make my Corsair Vengence 3200MT/s ram work in my X170KM-G as it will not even boot regardless of which bios i use right now.

 

When I get back to it later this week or early next week I'll do a dump.

 

On 5/11/2022 at 6:26 AM, MD87 said:

The project just started. It´s delayed because my other project with a Corsair 1000d, Asus Extreme Glacial and 12900KS wasn´t finished.

 

First impression: This thing runs hot as hell. I did the first Benchmarks to get the stock performance. 

 

Then I took a closer look and opened it:

 

The case was broken on the back. Some screws were missing and most of the screws were not screwed in tight. I was able to screw out the cpu and gpu screws with my fingers. There wasn´t really much pressure on the heatsink.

 

First photos:

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 Next steps:

 

- Fix the socket

- Delid the CPU

- Fix the case

- Clean it

- Swap Keyboard

- Update BIOS and EC and unlock it

- Maybe modify the heatsink

 

 

I was going through some old messages to update the launch page and found this one. What ever happened to your X170KM-G project? Did you finish all the steps you wanted to do? Is it up and running properly?

 

 

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4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

If I had to guess, Prema was doing all BIOS installations remotely per unit for security reasons and has now stopped the process so none of the current units can get it. Refurb means the system board was probably replaced. This doesn't bode well for current SM owners if their system boards die and a replacement is needed even if from ZtecPC.

 

 

 

When I get back to it later this week or early next week I'll do a dump.

 

 

 

I was going through some old messages to update the launch page and found this one. What ever happened to your X170KM-G project? Did you finish all the steps you wanted to do? Is it up and running properly?

 

 

You can still get Prema BIOS from Eluktronics so it’s a zTec thing I think

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On 12/25/2022 at 9:40 PM, electrosoft said:

 

It has an 11900k, 3070, 64GB 3200 and 1TB 980 Pro along with a 144hz 1080p.

 

It is this one from fleabay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304738788852

 

 

 

It arrived last week and looks almost brand new but I've been crazy busy with the holidays and such. I did manage to set it up and do a couple of stock runs on it with Timespy and CPU-Z and play some WoW before putting it on the shelf till this week but didn't grab a screen shot of course. Out of the box it scored ~11.5k in Timespy and ~14.2k in CB23 so some room for improvement on the CPU front. That was pure stock zero undervolts applied and their BIOS is set to 90c threshhold even so that bodes well for a decent silicon sample. Outside of gaming or CPU stress, the system is really quiet. It is MUCH better than the unit I picked up last winter used on eBay from XoticPC I returned which was crashing right out of the box and had a defective keyboard. I set this one to loop for 30 minutes. Came back and it was just trucking along no problems.

 

Bios is a custom BOXX variant. I had never heard of this company before but apparently they specialized in dedicated workstations and such. It is running 4x16GB 3200 no problem. The Xotic one wouldn't even boot with 4 sticks of anything in it last year.

 

GPU runs in the 60's full load both GPU and hot spot. Everything just *works* with a clean install of W11. This may be one of those RARE situations if I set a good UV and it hits the proper ~15.4k in CB23 without throttling I'm good to go.

 

I even played WoW for an hour and CPU tops out at 80c. I had to work all types of magic with my X170SM-G to get the temps down playing WoW with a 10900k even my Silicon Lottery golden chip I ended up having to delid and with all the ZtecPC Prema magic I finally got it gaming with a max of 78c on the chip. The fact this one tops out at 80c and fans aren't at max AND zero undervolt yet bodes well for a good piece of silicon inside.

 

So far, much better experience this time around.

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like you got a steal and it would be interesting to see how your 10900K performs in it!

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