RTX 3080 in M18xR2? Should I do it? lol

[aldarxt]

41 minutes ago, nforce4max said:

Should if the card supports edp otherwise it is probably only good for a SFF desktop. If all else fails you could try to see if it plays nice with an IGP in either the M6700 or M18X to help rule out some other odd compatibility issue like system bios or the EC etc.

8 Beeps

[nforce4max]

19 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

8 Beeps

Sigh, give it one last shot in the m6700 with the IGP driving the display and see what happens. If it doesn't work out there then this card probably isn't suitable for laptops.

[aldarxt]

27 minutes ago, nforce4max said:

Sigh, give it one last shot in the m6700 with the IGP driving the display and see what happens. If it doesn't work out there then this card probably isn't suitable for laptops.

I put it back in m17x r4 SG mode and accidentally went into Win 10 on the HDD because Ububtu numbered my drives backwards. I have the win 11 SSD in #2 slot and win 10 HDD in #1 to keep it cooler but it is slow as molassas. Win 10 is updating the AMD GPU so I am waiting to see maybe win 10 can do better. As far as the M6700 I need to mod the heatsink. Maybe I'll feel up to it tomorrow. I just thought it strange that win 10 picked it up so fast and win 11 did like after my 3rd attempt with AMD driver install even though after restart would give a code 31 and another time a 43

[nforce4max]

2 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

I put it back in m17x r4 SG mode and accidentally went into Win 10 on the HDD because Ububtu numbered my drives backwards. I have the win 11 SSD in #2 slot and win 10 HDD in #1 to keep it cooler but it is slow as molassas. Win 10 is updating the AMD GPU so I am waiting to see maybe win 10 can do better. As far as the M6700 I need to mod the heatsink. Maybe I'll feel up to it tomorrow. I just thought it strange that win 10 picked it up so fast and win 11 did like after my 3rd attempt with AMD driver install even though after restart would give a code 31 and another time a 43

That doesn't surprise me as I've had similar experiences where some cards just worked in win 10 while there were issues with 7 for example.

[Reciever]

Do you have a programmer? Maybe needs a different vbios? Tricky part would be what to cross flash, I dont know of another MXM 6600 XT to even suggest...

[aldarxt]

17 hours ago, Reciever said:

Do you have a programmer? Maybe needs a different vbios? Tricky part would be what to cross flash, I dont know of another MXM 6600 XT to even suggest...

Yes I have a programmer, I was thinking of that, I have flashed a few cards and some multiple times, but the last card I flashed was the RTX 4000 maxQ and now it is dead. Nvidia put a block on flashing since RTX but the nvflashk works around the block. IDK about AMD. If the card doesn't work in the M6700 then I would try to flash it.

[sliderfra]

On 2/28/2024 at 2:03 AM, aldarxt said:

This was my first experience with AMD and it will be my last. I cannot get the software to work in m17x r4. I thought I would eventually try the RX6600 XT in my M6700 but with the heatsink buchery I don't think so. I am so glad I didn't try it in the m18x r2 because it is so much easier swapping in the m17x r4. I tried a few from AMD and even went to Dell but nothing worked. I went the whole gammut from CMos reset, DDU and amd cleanup utility and AMD software compatibility tool. For some reason the GPU fan would not run with the AMD card and when I did the last uninstall and removed the card I needed to hold it with a napkin it was so hot. So as much as we complain about Nvidia and that being much deserved, Nvidia is so much better I can't see how there is any competition. So What GPU is next???

 

Hi mate,

alienware/dell don't have native fan control for AMD cards except for firepro m6000/6100 or 7970m.

You may use hwinfo64 to use alternate EC control and force the GPU fan to work (you can even create automatic profile). It's not perfect, but it works OK (done this with my R4 & rx480 mxm)

AMD mxm cards are pain in the arse, ie my rx480 showed code 43 or driver install errors until I found a good vbios. Then it worked flawlessly.

Good luck

[aldarxt]

7 hours ago, sliderfra said:

 

Hi mate,

alienware/dell don't have native fan control for AMD cards except for firepro m6000/6100 or 7970m.

You may use hwinfo64 to use alternate EC control and force the GPU fan to work (you can even create automatic profile). It's not perfect, but it works OK (done this with my R4 & rx480 mxm)

AMD mxm cards are pain in the arse, ie my rx480 showed code 43 or driver install errors until I found a good vbios. Then it worked flawlessly.

Good luck

OK that explains alot. So I removed the GPU heatsink from M6700, thats a really nice heatsink, wish I could make it work in the Alienwares. I purchased 2 more heatsinks for M6700 just in case I butcher it beyond belief. It has more copper and I will have to file down to the single pipe but looks like I won't be able to get it flush and I don't want to take too much off the pipe or it will blow a gasket. And on the side looks all clear to make the notch cutout. They placed the resistors in odd places. As for vBios that looks like an adventure I am going to have to deal with. But you make it sound hopeful, Thanks

[aldarxt]

On 2/29/2024 at 4:03 PM, nforce4max said:

I think that there is a good chance it will work as I got an M6700 with the same panel and it worked well with an WX 7100.

Does the WX7100 work in Alienware?

[nforce4max]

1 hour ago, aldarxt said:

Does the WX7100 work in Alienware?

All of mine are lvds and I've read comments on the old forum that it doesn't work in the M18X R2 so I haven't tried it. 

[aldarxt]

2 hours ago, nforce4max said:

All of mine are lvds and I've read comments on the old forum that it doesn't work in the M18X R2 so I haven't tried it. 

I want to put the RTX 3080 in m18xr2 and I think @sliderfra said the RTX 3000 works in the M6700 but am still going to try the rx6600xt in M6700 since it is all apart, I just had a day of glitches with the m18xr2 after the latest micro$oft update I had to do cmos reset and then Nvidia drivers were giving issues but looks all smoothed out now, running a string of 3DMark tests now and on the side looking for vBios for that AMD card. NOW I want to see if @ssj92 gets the 3080 just to see if it works LOL

[nforce4max]

2 hours ago, aldarxt said:

I want to put the RTX 3080 in m18xr2 and I think @sliderfra said the RTX 3000 works in the M6700 but am still going to try the rx6600xt in M6700 since it is all apart, I just had a day of glitches with the m18xr2 after the latest micro$oft update I had to do cmos reset and then Nvidia drivers were giving issues but looks all smoothed out now, running a string of 3DMark tests now and on the side looking for vBios for that AMD card. NOW I want to see if @ssj92 gets the 3080 just to see if it works LOL

 

Been daily using a RTX 3000 (HP) in an M6800 for over a month now and good so far though it is an EDP version so yours should work just fine in the M6700 depending on the card as the HP version takes some effort to install. As for getting the RX at this point who knows as sometimes people have ran into some really odd issues.

[Falinov]

On 2/14/2024 at 7:46 AM, aldarxt said:

Update 14 Feb 2024 Paypal notified me the money is going in and will be complete on 19 Feb 2024, HUH? I should have sent one of those paper checks with a forever stamp in snail mail would have been faster than a computer click

I already received my 3080 MXM. Lol

[Falinov]

On 2/28/2024 at 3:37 PM, ssj92 said:

From the picture you posted of device manager, it seems the gpu driver itself is fine just not the software?

 

Why not ignore the software for now and try running a 3d application to see what happens?

I concur my onexplayer had huge problems with the software not the GPU itself. All because it was a custom APU with custom drivers. 

[aldarxt]

4 hours ago, Falinov said:

I already received my 3080 MXM. Lol

Is it from X vision, does it work?

[sliderfra]

12 hours ago, aldarxt said:

I want to put the RTX 3080 in m18xr2 and I think @sliderfra said the RTX 3000 works in the M6700 but am still going to try the rx6600xt in M6700 since it is all apart, I just had a day of glitches with the m18xr2 after the latest micro$oft update I had to do cmos reset and then Nvidia drivers were giving issues but looks all smoothed out now, running a string of 3DMark tests now and on the side looking for vBios for that AMD card. NOW I want to see if @ssj92 gets the 3080 just to see if it works LOL

Hi. 

PNY/Aetina RTX3000 works perfectly fine in m6700/m6800. 

Your rx6600xt May work in m6700 but only on external screen as m6700 disable hybrid graphics with any AMD card. Unless you have edp screen & your rx6600 has edp registers enabled, it will not work on internal screen. 

[aldarxt]

2 hours ago, sliderfra said:

Hi. 

PNY/Aetina RTX3000 works perfectly fine in m6700/m6800. 

Your rx6600xt May work in m6700 but only on external screen as m6700 disable hybrid graphics with any AMD card. Unless you have edp screen & your rx6600 has edp registers enabled, it will not work on internal screen. 

So then it doesn't make sense to modify the m6700 heatsink and try the rx6600xt. Now I got no use for this card unless vBios can be modified. Maybe rx6600m vBios?

techpowerup has 37 rx6600m vBios  hmmm

Hey just looked at this card and the chip is on the back. it is still in the heatsink, I just swap out the whole setup, I hate messing with the thermalpads, drives me nuts, wish they were sticky on just 1 side. So flashing will be a breeze even if not successful.

[Falinov]

6 hours ago, aldarxt said:

Is it from X vision, does it work?

Wish I had better news for all ya. But no. So far it won't recognize it. Cards definitely getting power. Just not picking up. Haven't had much time on this vacation to fink with it yet. 

[ssj92]

On 3/3/2024 at 5:47 AM, aldarxt said:

So then it doesn't make sense to modify the m6700 heatsink and try the rx6600xt. Now I got no use for this card unless vBios can be modified. Maybe rx6600m vBios?

techpowerup has 37 rx6600m vBios  hmmm

Hey just looked at this card and the chip is on the back. it is still in the heatsink, I just swap out the whole setup, I hate messing with the thermalpads, drives me nuts, wish they were sticky on just 1 side. So flashing will be a breeze even if not successful.

Backup the vBIOS and try flashing several 6600m XT vBIOS. 

 

You can also try desktop 6600 xt vBIOS. 

 

SG mode is probably only hope...all these newer cards don't support eDP/LVDS

 

I flashed A4500 like 20 times and 970M like 50 times, they should be fine with flashing through programmer. 

[aldarxt]

4 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Backup the vBIOS and try flashing several 6600m XT vBIOS. 

 

You can also try desktop 6600 xt vBIOS. 

 

SG mode is probably only hope...all these newer cards don't support eDP/LVDS

 

I flashed A4500 like 20 times and 970M like 50 times, they should be fine with flashing through programmer. 

Thanks @ssj92, I spent the day flashing, started with nvflashk but nogo, probably only good for nvidia cards. The programmer worked fine, tried AMD, then there was a Dell that gave me a little hope, windows installed the driver with no hiccups but the AMD software just does not like the card or the m17xr4, keeps freezing and not letting it shutdown or restart, I need to hold power button even when I DDU into safe mode. At least it boots into safe mode after power shutdown. I tried some strange AMD drivers also  WHQL-R-ID-Software-Hybrid-24.1.1KB-SuicideSquad-23.40.02.03-Jan24-Win10-Win11-PolarisVegaNavi-Nebula,  amd-catalyst-15.7.1-win10-64bit.exe,  even from Dell but I get the software is not compatible. There are only desktop vBios on Techpowerup, I have seen 6600m tried 1 but not recognized. Today I have had enough and put the P400 back in and on restart it was installed all by itself like I didn't uninstall it but I knoe I did, I started with DDU to uninstall Nvidia drivers and shutdown, very strange, my brain is getting bloopy LOL

[aldarxt]

Just a thought, maybe a BIOS update, I am running A11 unlocked on all my Alienware's. These were first meant to allow 900 series cards back in the day. Never had a problem but Dell always has critical to update but always thought that was for some malware code or security advisory and never had any problem with that. Any body know if there are any BIOS for these newer cards? Do we need to track down SVl7 and give us an updated BIOS?

[Falinov]

On 3/5/2024 at 5:43 PM, aldarxt said:

Just a thought, maybe a BIOS update, I am running A11 unlocked on all my Alienware's. These were first meant to allow 900 series cards back in the day. Never had a problem but Dell always has critical to update but always thought that was for some malware code or security advisory and never had any problem with that. Any body know if there are any BIOS for these newer cards? Do we need to track down SVl7 and give us an updated BIOS?

Could be possible I still need to reach out to a friend of mine about this. I just got so many projects and so little time. 

[CircleLoading]

issue is with .inf file, give me full hardware id, I will make the .inf file,

[emcze]

On 2/28/2024 at 2:03 AM, aldarxt said:

For some reason the GPU fan would not run with the AMD card and when I did the last uninstall and removed the card I needed to hold it with a napkin it was so hot.

 

Did you tried install "Compal embadded system driver" ?? It is Dell driver R188622. I had the same problem in my son m17x r4 after installed this driver GPU fan started to works.

[i.bakar]

what about the 3080 MXM in the alienware 18 ( i mean the tank from 2015) 

 

correct me if i am wrong but this bios can handle better then the m18x r2 .... ( bios wise , i dont mean MOSFiT wise )