Precision 7560 & Precision 7760 owner's thread

[serpro69]

43 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

Clean Windows 10 install is pretty easy on these guys, if you are comfortable doing that sort of thing, there is nothing really surprising.  You can get all of the drivers from Dell (dell.com/support), but really, if you get a Wi-Fi or Ethernet driver and then connect it to the Internet, it will pull down nearly everything automatically via Windows Update.

I usually do something along these steps:

- backup whatever the laptop came with
- download the drivers from dell.com
- wipe and reinstall
- power-up w/o connecting to internet
- install previously downloaded drivers
- disable Win-related spyware
- connect to internet and do the rest of the setup

[alittleteapot]

I use wpd.app to clear out Telemetry and a lot of stupid pre-installed crap.  It's really great at minimizing the clutter on a fresh install - you can even completely disable automatic updates if you need to.  Reinstalling Windows on my laptops is done on an annual basis because they're used for development.  Currently, I'm trying out Windows 11, and since all my development stuff is in Virtual Machines, it doesn't really matter what flavor of Windows is running the host.

I understand if you choose to pre-install Ubuntu, that's it's much more important to image that as it has some secret sauce that would be hard/impossible to pull down from a default image.

 

[Aaron44126]

11 hours ago, alittleteapot said:

I understand if you choose to pre-install Ubuntu, that's it's much more important to image that as it has some secret sauce that would be hard/impossible to pull down from a default image.

Dell has some packages hosted in an archive at dell.archive.canonical.com that aren't included in a standard Ubuntu install.  Some of them provide hardware-specific support for Dell laptops (fingerprint reader, etc.).  Nothing stopping you from adding that package source to apt and pulling stuff down.

I'm not sure if there is anything else "different" between a stock Ubuntu install and a Dell one — I haven't messed with Linux much outside of VMs in quite some time.  But it looks like they have a fair amount of documentation, and from here you can download the image to reinstall Ubuntu for a system that came with it installed.

[Rinconmike]

I installed Bios 1.7.0 on my 7760 a couple weeks ago.  I was on 1.6.1 and no issues.

I am working on updating my son's 7560 that is on 1.5.0.  Any issue with going direct to 1.7.0?  Or any issues with 1.7.0 on the 7560?

I assume not on both but figured I would check here.

thanks,

Mike

[alittleteapot]

3 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

I'm not sure if there is anything else "different" between a stock Ubuntu install and a Dell one — I haven't messed with Linux much outside of VMs in quite some time.  But it looks like they have a fair amount of documentation, and from here you can download the image to reinstall Ubuntu for a system that came with it installed.

Thanks for the link - I was stumbling with this some time in the past, especially with various vanilla Linux images.  I wanted to experiment using various Unix based virtualization managers as an alternative to Hyper-V, but I always come back to Windows for the sheer plug-and-play of it.

[serpro69]

4 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

Dell has some packages hosted in an archive at dell.archive.canonical.com that aren't included in a standard Ubuntu install.  Some of them provide hardware-specific support for Dell laptops (fingerprint reader, etc.).  Nothing stopping you from adding that package source to apt and pulling stuff down.

I'm not sure if there is anything else "different" between a stock Ubuntu install and a Dell one — I haven't messed with Linux much outside of VMs in quite some time.  But it looks like they have a fair amount of documentation, and from here you can download the image to reinstall Ubuntu for a system that came with it installed.

Never used anything beyond standard Ubuntu installation + some tweaks here and there. And I usually don't have any issues with it.
Haven't even explored what dell offers from their end for Ubuntu support, so this came as a bit of surprise :) Thanks for this info, I'll definitely take a look, even if just out of curiosity.

[Aaron44126]

6 hours ago, Rinconmike said:

Any issue with going direct to 1.7.0?  Or any issues with 1.7.0 on the 7560?

1.7.0 on Precision 7560 for a few weeks now, and no issues.  I think going direct would be fine as well.

[Rinconmike]

 

On 2/1/2022 at 2:46 PM, Aaron44126 said:

So....  We ordered an additional Precision 7560 for the office, I dunno, about three weeks ago (early/mid-January).  The ETA given was mid-April.  The UHD display in particular was cited as the source of the long lead time.

I never got the order number so I was not able to keep track of it.

Got word from the IT dept today (February 1) that the system has arrived at the office.  I was like, "Please go and double check".  Once confirmed, I asked for the service tag so that I could make sure that they didn't just accidentally order one with the FHD display.  Nope...  Precision 7560, UHD display, received in less than a month.

I wonder if the supply chain issues are getting cleared out, or if they just got a huge shipment of UHD panels all at once, or what?

 

On 2/2/2022 at 6:51 AM, Rinconmike said:

I noticed this too.  A quote I got last week with the UHD had a ship date end of Feb.  The week before it was and of April.

Ordered the 7560 with RTX 3080 today.  Ship date pushed out again.  Now expected ship date is 4/12/22.  When I got the quote on 1/26/22 it was 2/26/22 if I ordered it on 1/26/22.  Maybe it will ship sooner.  Not in a rush on this.  I just cannot wait for the 7570.

 

[katalin_2003]

Anyone running the Kingston FURY @3200Mhz?

It seems these are the only ones in 64Gb kits we can get our hands on, at the moment, in Europe.

[win32asmguy]

16 hours ago, katalin_2003 said:

Anyone running the Kingston FURY @3200Mhz?

It seems these are the only ones in 64Gb kits we can get our hands on, at the moment, in Europe.

I am using 32GB (2x16GB) of the older branded HyperX at 3200mhz CL20 dual rank without issue. The kit has Micron IC's.

[Ionising_Radiation]

For some reason, BIOS 1.7.0 appears to have been pulled from the 7560 driver download page. It's still available on the LVFS.

[Rinconmike]

13 minutes ago, Ionising_Radiation said:

For some reason, BIOS 1.7.0 appears to have been pulled from the 7560 driver download page. It's still available on the LVFS.

same on 7760.  I wonder what the issue is.  I previously updated my 7760 but not 7560

[Aaron44126]

On 1/28/2022 at 10:24 AM, Rinconmike said:

A few weeks ago I removed the bottom cover to install some additional SSD.  Ever since, in the bios log it looks like every boot there is a message that says "Alert! Cover was previously removed."

On 1/28/2022 at 1:06 PM, Aaron44126 said:

This is normal, the tamper protection in play.  I feel like I saw an option in the BIOS somewhere to reset it?  I'll try to remember to check on it next time I reboot.

I checked on this yesterday when I rebooted for Windows patches.  There are options for this under "Security".  I don't see an option to "reset" the tamper protection.  Turns out that I had just disabled it altogether.  (Maybe disabling and then re-enabling it would reset it?  Or maybe another button shows up there to reset it when it needs to be cleared?  The text seems to indicate that there is a way to clear it.)

Spoiler

No idea what's going on with the BIOS being pulled, but maybe there will be a hint in the release notes for the next version ...

[whyshchuck]

Hi, I'm sure that te answer is somewhere in the old thread, but it's impossible to search it through.

Does 90 W TDC for 7560 RTX a-5000 specification include dynamic boost?

Thanks.

[Aaron44126]

2 hours ago, whyshchuck said:

Does 90 W TDC for 7560 RTX a-5000 specification include dynamic boost?

No.  It can go above 90W with dynamic boost.  I'm not sure what the actual value is for the 7560 though.  I know that the base TDP value for the RTX A5000 in the Precision 7760 is 115W, but with dynamic boost it can hit up to 140W.

That said, you can assume that the GPU won't spend that much time in dynamic boost (especially if there is a moderate to heavy CPU load as well) as the system only has 180W total available to use.

[natman]

On 2/9/2022 at 6:55 PM, Aaron44126 said:

The text seems to indicate that there is a way to clear it

I dont remember exactly, but i did clear the chasis intrusion logs.  

 

[whyshchuck]

22 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

No.  It can go above 90W with dynamic boost.  I'm not sure what the actual value is for the 7560 though.  I know that the base TDP value for the RTX A5000 in the Precision 7760 is 115W, but with dynamic boost it can hit up to 140W.

That said, you can assume that the GPU won't spend that much time in dynamic boost (especially if there is a moderate to heavy CPU load as well) as the system only has 180W total available to use.

Good to know. Thanks!

[katalin_2003]

On 2/10/2022 at 4:12 PM, natman said:

I dont remember exactly, but i did clear the chasis intrusion logs.  

 

When the chassis intrusion option is set to Enabled, under Security > Chassis Intrusion, a report is shown during POST.

Selecting the Clear Intrusion Warning, will acknowledge and also clear the event.

If you want to log but not show the message during POST, you can select the On-Silent option.

[serpro69]

So what's the use-case for this "intrusion warning"? IIRC, Dell never voided the warranty if you open up the laptop and/or change some of the parts like SSD or RAM. Or has something changed in this regard?

[Rinconmike]

I think it is just a security feature to alert that someone opened the case.  Does not impact the warranty.

[Aaron44126]

7 minutes ago, serpro69 said:

So what's the use-case for this "intrusion warning"? IIRC, Dell never voided the warranty if you open up the laptop and/or change some of the parts like SSD or RAM. Or has something changed in this regard?

 

It's not for warranty purposes.  It's basically for security, so that the device owner can know if someone has opened the chassis (to I dunno, make a copy of the drive, install a custom hardware or a tracker, ...).

[Edit] Ninja'd

[katalin_2003]

So I finally ended up securing a 2x32Gb kit of Crucial Ballistix that arrived today.

The Precisions 7560 all arrived with 1.7.0 BIOS.

After replacing the OEM Hynix modules, the XMP option was right there, in the BIOS menu, under Performance.

It currently runs at 3200Mhz.

I must say I’m very satisfied with this new line. Very nicely built.

 

[Ionising_Radiation]

On 2/15/2022 at 4:32 AM, katalin_2003 said:

the XMP option was right there, in the BIOS menu, under Performance.

It currently runs at 3200Mhz

Make sure you run Memtest86. I had the same 3200 MHz memory with XMP and it led to random blue-screens and game crashes. Turns out the memory subsystem was horribly unstable. I had to disable XMP. 

[katalin_2003]

On 2/17/2022 at 3:37 AM, Ionising_Radiation said:

Make sure you run Memtest86. I had the same 3200 MHz memory with XMP and it led to random blue-screens and game crashes. Turns out the memory subsystem was horribly unstable. I had to disable XMP. 

 

Thank you @Ionising_Radiation.

Ouch, sorry to hear that. I ran Memtest86 on it, it took ~10h and it PASSED. Additionally I ran the DELL Memory Test and Memory Stress Test and they both passed as well.

Haven't had any issues with it during my normal workflow either so time will tell.

[Rinconmike]

On 2/9/2022 at 7:52 AM, Ionising_Radiation said:

For some reason, BIOS 1.7.0 appears to have been pulled from the 7560 driver download page. It's still available on the LVFS.

Looks like they pulled the 1.6.1 also.  Bios 1.5.0 is now the current one.  I am still on 1.7.0 on my 7760.