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I think a RTX4080 laptop is pretty sweet! I would want a 1080P or 1440P monitor though since they are 12GB VRAM. With DLSS and Frame Gen, it would absolutely rip! Plus, with a smaller screen like that pixel density would be really really great. Plus, the lower the power the better and the higher your cpu will boost and the more frames you’ll get. Very impressed with this @Mr. Fox 6.0P/4.8E/5.0R on this SP99 the ram is at 8400 XMP @1.400V and maxed out 262k tREFI. Passes all preliminary ram testing so far. I am a little taken back by this CPU. 🤣 Also, R23 peaked at 355 watts in normal priority with 6.0P/4.8E/5.0R with no delid at all. Another WOWZA for sure. vMIN was 1.290 (78C) package temps, I am a little surprised it even runs Cinebench R23 like this. Was looking for just a random CPU to use, I am trying to get away from direct die and go back to soldered CPU's since I have a chiller anyways.

Right but, using my cooling setup, not many chips can run 6Ghz with no delid at 1.270V. This chip can definitely do it! And it’s a turd on top of all that 😂. I thought that was pretty astounding. This chip has top end GRUNT! SP99 or not. It’s still good lol

Ouch lol! I thought it was pretty good @Papusan for a low dog SP99. It runs 6Ghz right out of the box with no delid at all. I can’t fault that 1.270V@78c so many chips could not dream of that though, 6Ghz with no delid? This one does it! she is a great scaler 🤣. Just testing for the lowest vmin, in that case we don’t need to increase the E-Cores they are already 4.5E stock. This chip is 100% solid for a SP99. It’s going to run 5.9P/4.7E/5.0R easy or 6.0P/4.7E/5.0R. The IMC is also looking good too. While I want to pick on the poor SP99 KS, it runs amazingly well. And I cannot fault it. 🤷‍♂️

No my other chip is fine. I really need a non delidded cpu for a regular build though. I’m thinking about going back to regular waterblock/soldered CPU’s since I run a chiller. I was curious, and It seems the P-Cores on the SP99 14900KS are really really good. 5.9@1.208V and 6.0V@1.270V.

The worst 14900KS is actually pretty darn good? Testing 14900KS (SP99 Low Dog) The results will surprise you. (CHIP IS NOT DELIDDED)

We just finally closed on our home construction loan. But we still have a little ways before we are actually moved in. Should be November this year when we get the certification of occupancy. We have to wait for the new home to be ordered and built. It’s already ordered but this building process takes 4 months. Next step is clearing the lot (This lot is nothing but trees and woods 0.997 acres), then of course they will level the ground and make a concrete pad for the home to sit on. We are only clearing the minimum amount of trees to make a driveway, and for our house. The privacy is going to be nice. The house is a full Sheetrock double wide. The closing process was very tough though. We nearly didn’t get the land. So many random things came up. I’m glad that’s over with though. Now it’s just a waiting game for our home to be built.

Hey everyone, long time no see! I seriously lost total interest in computers lately for a little while. I was only using my system for work and gaming. Like most normal people I suppose lol 😆 but after re-doing my Supercool direct die mount I’ve reeled my self right back in that rabbit hole.

I'm done binning on LGA1700. I almost ended up with a 14900KS. But just decided to just be happy with my R batch. It runs great at 6.1P/4.9E I have been running this speed for about a week now daily. And I have just forgotten all about it. Using a manual SVID of 1.395V with LLC5 in the bios. Still have not stepped on it with heavy voltages. I have no doubt that 6.2 can be done with 1.300+ load V-core. But, staying in the 1.200's load range is a little better long term.

I have found that 4K is definitely best at 100% scaling with windows. However, while 27” is very sharp and high PPI it is too small to reliably and quickly use the monitor while reading text etc. This was why I moved up to a 48” OLED 4K Monitor. I think probably 42” would be good as well too though. 48 inches is pretty large. But sitting 3ft-4ft away you can read any text like it’s nothing and actually use the panel very easily. I can slide back to 8ft and still read the text at 100% scaling. I think using smaller 4K panels like 27” will make our brains and eyes work much harder to read and manage apps.

I considered this about the 4060, however it is only 8GB which further hurts its performance and 1% lows especially. Making it a useless GPU for newly launched titles as most aren’t optimized all that great. If I’m not mistake though I think game devs are hesitant to optimize for 8GB VRAM. Apparently it’s too time consuming. Check these 1% lows on 8GB 4060. So in this case even with a 4060 having Frame Gen, It still won’t save it.

It’s gonna be impossible to tell the difference. Everytime I upload an image and share it on here the quality looks nothing like the actual photos took. It’s hard to capture what you’re seeing. So you can upload two pics and it dumbs them both down to a similar dullness. You have fiber optic internet?

Isn’t that a laptop 3060? How does it perform compared to a desktop? Me and my son overclocked his 3060 and we got 2440 in Speedway. I thought it was pretty good and on par with RTX4060. (Not 3060Ti fast, but not too bad either) my son would be better suited with a 1080P monitor. He’s actually using a 2560x1440P. Some games can really push the 3060. But fortunately my son is not all that picky. He just wants to be able to run games. Which cannot be done on a iGPU. We can drop his graphics a little and he’s good to go usually. But he usually plays VR, and the 3060 12GB absolutely kills it in VR.

I let my son try GeForce now right before we built his PC. He actually played it on my MacBook Air M1 16GB/1TB. It worked pretty good! We had access to a RTX4080. And he could actually play PC games. It was a free 7 day pass. But I thought it was really cool. Now that he has an actual RTX3060 though, no need for it anymore lol. If I didn’t have a decent gpu. I’d use it for sure.

I built my son’s PC with a Asrock Z790 Pro RS WiFi motherboard. Nothing fancy at all. Literally a dirt cheap basic board that was free. But it really works great! One thing I liked was the bios update process. So, with the Z790 Apex you must download the bios, rename the bios file, drop the bios on the USB, and go and locate and select the bios on the usb drive to update off of that USB. Very simple process. But, on the Asrock I literally clicked “update bios” and it somehow already located my USB drive and selected the bios already and began the process lol. It was almost like magic that it knew exactly what I wanted to be done here.. 🤷‍♂️ It seems to work very well, and it’s 100% stable with his tuned XMP profile. Kids find instability fast. They do some crazy stuff on a PC. Like trying to spawn in 10,000 dinosaurs in a game just to force a crash or see how badly it slows down their system. But considering how amazing the Asrock Z590 OC Formula was, I think Asrock can possibly make some more amazing motherboards.

Thanks! Been tuning it up for him all this morning. Forcing rebar, undervolting the cpu, secondary ram timings etc, GPU max overclock applied. I’ve got the 3060 at 2,145/17,500Gbps. So far it’s already beating a stock RTX 4060 which I think is hilarious. Not sure what they were thinking releasing a 4060 8GB.

You ain’t kidding. I was quite surprised. I was just gonna get my son a used 10900K and a 3060 12GB. Now he’s got him a legit system that’s actually fast! The 12900KS runs nice and cool 66-70C during R23 with the 360AIO. No power limits in place. Using Kryonaut Extreme paste.

I got my 11y/o son’s gaming rig built. It runs really nice too. The cpu cooler is really great considering it’s just a AIO! The CPU and system ram is also very nice. This little 3060 12GB Strix overclocks like a freaking monster!! The cooler is so overkill on it for sure. It’s gonna be a 4060 8Gb killer all day (This GPU at 100% fan runs like 38-40C with the GPU stock) I have the full kit for the lian li to run a vertical GPU with the ribbon cable as well. The case also included the glass panels and mesh panels and vertical GPU kit to my surprise. 😁 All of these parts were 100% donated besides the PSU, and the 3060 😀 Intel 12900KS (Free) Asrock Z790 Pro RS Wifi (Free) G.Skill Trident Z DDR5 6400c32 (Free) (2x16GB) Asus Strix RTX with 3060 12GB ($265) NZXT Z73 360MM AIO (Free) EVGA 1300P+ PSU (Already owned it) (2) 512GB Intel 660P Raid 0 (Already owned) LIAN li 011 Dynamic Evo W mesh kit installed. (FREE)

My fully tuned 8267c36-48-48-48-60 profile with (262k tREFI) works with 1.225V IMC voltage. TM5 under load shows 1.208V which is pretty crazy that it will even run like this 😆. I’m sure many of us are sending too much IMC voltage though. I tried sending low IMC Voltage to my 13900KS, and it wasn’t very happy about it. So I think it does depend on the IMC and chip.

The only real benefit is lower voltages and better stability. If all of the cores are allowed to hit the 6.0Ghz boost while idle, it can inflate your idle VID’s on all of the cores a little more than they should be if it were set for only the two best cores. And for stability as well. But it’s probably fine either way really.

This is how I try to always tune a chip. High idle voltage, or high low load voltages. And low heavy load voltage. These tiny little loads that hit a core really quick and lightly can crash a CPU if that idle voltage is too low. You need to tune your “Per P-Core though” all of your cores are bouncing to (6Ghz) when the chip is using less than (2) cores or idle.

@Talon What did you end up getting that IMC voltage down to?

I think so too. 😁 GPU was just delivered. Probably the nicest 3060 I’ve ever seen. Really big cooler for such a little baby GPU haha. It has 12GB VRAM so it’s not useless either. I wanted him to be able to play games smoothly with 30-100FPS VS. Play games with 1-100FPS. I was not trusting the 8GB route, which was exactly why I passed on the standard 4060. Especially with how poorly optimized newly launched titles are.

I ordered (4) new tires for my wife’s car and FedEx dropped them off at some random address in the City right next to me. The seller (Big Retail Tire company) was trying to launch an investigation before they’d send me new tires out or even refund me. After a week of waiting with no tires , I filed a dispute with PayPal. PayPal closed the dispute and said “Item delivered closed in favor of seller” I had to launch a new dispute with PayPal. And put in caps lock. “PLEASE LOOK AT THE ZIP CODE AND CITY OF WHERE THESE TIRES WERE DELIVERED” 🤣 (Pretty dumb I know) then PayPal was like OHHH! They were not delivered to you. And finally I got my money back right away. I bought some new tires from someone else so all is well now. But it was an ordeal, and why in the world FedEx dropped these tires off in another city was beyond me. I’m not sure. They can mess up pretty bad sometimes though. And even after that it was like PayPal wasn’t even checking my dispute. They literally looked at “Delivered” and went in favor of seller. When it clearly said on the tracking it was delivered in a different city/address than my address, and signed by a first name of someone I didn’t even know. Someone got some free tires! And it wasn’t me.

I’m building my son’s first PC with him this weekend. Below will be his rig. Lian Li 011 Evo black Intel 12900KS CPU Asrock Z790 RS Pro WiFi LGA1700 2x16GB Gskill DDR5 6400 Asus Strix OC V2 RTX3060 12GB NZXT Z73 360MM AIO cooler Evga 1300P+ Platinum PSU Viewsonic XG271QG G-Sync 1440P 165Hz IPS monitor. I think it’s a good system even for today. Much better than my first PC. When I was a kid I did not have my own dad who could get me some PC parts like my son does. 😁

Yes but that’s probably just normal deviation of like 3%. Going from 79 to 90+ would be pretty astounding though. @Rage Set enable XMp and test again. Also, install bios 2102. After installing this latest bios it bumped my mcsp to 89-90 with a cleared CMOS, and mcsp 91-92 with XMP enabled. Testing 2102 has shown good ram OC improvements. Stabilizing 8400c36 was very quick. PS: My mcsp has never hit 90 since owning this chip. Always 88-89 on every bios I have tried. Once installing 2102 I saw it hit mcsp 91 then mcsp 92. This is always a good sign. And I can tell right away with ram overclocking during the stability testing if it’s easier or better. I’ve been ram overclocking on this Z790 Apex for about a year now, and testing this same chip for almost 4 months. I’ve tried 1402/1501/1801/1904/9901/2102. Of all of these 1501 overclocked ram the best, that is until 2102 came along. 😁