Rage Set

And this is why I'm sticking with the older cards for now. Instead of a 7900XTX or 4090, I have gone back to the 6900XT. As you always state and I completely agree, newer isn't always better.

I have chalked it all down to bandwidth limitations when the A770 is connected to this particular Asus monitor (PG279Q - IPS). I believe it's about five years old now. The speakers don't work any longer, but it works quite well when I am testing hardware.

Quite the opposite for me. The ARC A770 does not like any HDMI cable when connected to my old 165Hz 1440p Asus monitor on my test build. When I reboot the test rig, it will black out. I would have to power the monitor off and on again to get it to show windows. I connected a cheap DP cable and it works perfectly. I can't say it is the monitor because on any other build, using AMD or Nvidia cards, HDMI works.

The fusible link holder in mine, broke - completely disintegrated in my hands. I could easily fix it but I haven't dedicated the time to. I thought about selling it several times, but it is not something most people would want locally and shipping this thing would be costly. So it sits.

I'd be seriously afraid if they were selling these concept boards for much cheaper than traditional mobos to spur adoption. As it stands right now, you will need to buy a specialize case and mobo that can only be used with each. You also have to hope that MSI, Asus and others don't abandon it after a year or so. Unless these mobos have the backing, like, CXL (https://www.computeexpresslink.org/members), I don't think they are going to be a thing for too long. Look at the BTX mobo form factor, it was supposed to be the next big thing (literally). I was one of the people highly interested in it back then...got crushed by ATX. So, I wish these companies the best of luck, hahaha.

There has been rumblings of this since a little before Nvidia tried to buy ARM. Nvidia was trying to get away from buying CPUs from AMD and Intel for their Enterprise servers. The question is, can Nvidia do what Qualcomm couldn't (well their next Nuvia based CPU is supposed to rival Apple's M series of processors)? Ultimately, all of these companies - AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and perhaps Nvidia, are at the mercy of Microsoft. No matter how great the chips are, if MS doesn't produce a version of Windows that can utilize the power of the chips, then it is a non-starter. I am waiting for one of these companies to offer their own Linux based OS to compliment their chips...then MS and in turn their competitors are in trouble.

Based off what I've seen, this "socket" will likely have two gens to it, however, they made no mention of future support. So no, I am not going back. Plus they made TRX50 really bad compared to the TR 7000 Pro series...48 PCIe 5.0 lanes? I get the four memory channels. Lastly, you can use TR 7000 Pro processors on TRX50 motherboards but you still have the same memory channels and PCIe lanes. This is crazy to say, but AMD is Intel five years ago. They think they can put anything out and it will sell. There are a ton of us TRX40 owners giving AMD the evil stare now. EDIT: One more thing...why did they choose to name them 7980X and lower? I mean, did no one in AMD's marketing team research how Intel used the same names for their processors?

You got me by upload but Comcast keeps pushing the download in my region for free. Here in CT, I have fiber, DSL and Cable, which keeps Comcast/Xfinity honesty. Comcast was going to introduce a data cap, but every since the fiber company arrived, they backed down. According to a rep, we will have 5gbs by the start of 2024 and 10G (🙄) by 2025 "if" I upgrade my modem to a DOSIS 4.0 variant through them (the rep should see my account, knowing I will not ever use Xfinity modems). By the time a DOSIS 4.0 modem is needed, I will have moved on to fiber. 10G over coaxial will be hampered.

I generally buy brand new and then resell as like new (because generally for most of my hardware I use it very slightly for overclocking and/or testing - then they end up back in their box) - @Mr. Fox and @tps3443 can tell you. All options are on the table for either the 7900 XTX or 4090. Warranty really doesn't matter to me for pre-owned hardware. Unless it was an EVGA GPU, most warranties do not transfer, so that is why as a buyer you expect a certain level of discount.

So. Is Nvidia going to release refreshed cards or not? Most of the rumors up till now claims they weren't going to release anything to best the 4090 until 50 series...and I thought that was odd (yes even in today's economy). I guess I will wait until the new year to make a decision.

On one hand, I am happy that AMD is supporting their past hardware with new features that aren't "hardware limited", on the other hand I want them to fix the issues that have been plaguing their cards for months now. If @Mr. Fox ever gets tired of the 6900XT and AMD, let me know. If I can't get a 7900XTX or 4090 for a good price, I will be searching for a 69XX XT card again.

Good thing you've explained the first photo as it does look like you are blocking the vents. So you're using the paper to "shape" the air to where you want it?

I believe I met the older, slightly different version of me. He's 82 years young (God bless him) and is very much becoming a PC enthusiast - I am fixing a PC he built himself - that features nearly all EVGA components. Like many of us here, he has a love of EVGA and their customer service. I am going to try to get him to sign up here and join this thread. His current specs are 13900K EVGA Z790 Classified EVGA 3080 TI FTW3 Ultra EVGA 1600W PSU The reason why I am posting this, he's using a Noctua air tower and I may need help to convince him to get at least an AIO. The CPU is throttling bad - to the point it caused Windows to be corrupted due to thermal shutdowns. HIs single DDR5 6400 stick (I'm going to speak to him about that - because I know technically he only needs one stick of DDR5 RAM) is bad. I'm going to point him to this thread and I am sure he will get a warm welcome.

Good thing I don't use Windows 11 on anything...well work related machines notwithstanding. My gaming rig with the 5900X/6800XT will never be upgraded to Windows 11...I am just waiting patiently until I find a good Linux gaming distro. I know many here hates W10, but it serves it purposes for my gaming needs.

That's an excellent deal. I was going to pick up another (original XL) because of the SATA backplane, but the prices for it are still quite high.

The Bykski even has an active backplate....very interesting. I wonder if they have the same for my 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid.

Perhaps it was not wise to use 10 Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM 120mm fans and allow Asus with its "Auto Fan Tuning" to control them. For some reason Asus thinks if the CPU hits 55 to 60C, you should run the chassis fans at 75%. Even with a thermalright SSD heatsink, my 980 PRO still idles at 60C. I think the GPU is blocking the air flow (the SSD sits under the GPU). I may have to get another M.2. PCIe card.

When I saw how huge these boxes were, I was expecting them to be heavy. The box with the TG weighs a bit more, but still surprised the crap out of me on how lightweight they are. Building starts soon.

I just ordered both the closed and TG editions of this case. Turning my 3960X and X299 builds into servers.

I've been trying to convince the purchasing dept and a few dept heads from the school district we support to not buy Dell Alienware R15/R16 desktops. They want gaming desktops for the high schools with RGB EVERYTHING. Of course, my boss points them to me because of my former business and current small SI business. One of the bidders is offering a Dell R15 with a 13600KF and 4070 TI for 3200. Another is offering a Dell R16 with a 12600KF and 4070 TI for 3050 each. I mean, I never realized how bad some of these vendors could be. It is interesting to be on the other side of a bidding process.

Perhaps its the former console gamer in me but here I am enjoying Everspace 2 (a spiritual successor to one of my favorite games of all time) and I am about to pick up Armored Core 6. The crazy thing is, I love Elder Scroll games but I cannot get into Bethesda's Fallout games. So if @electrosoft initial thoughts are true, I won't like Starfield. Shame.

I have a distinct feeling that Nvidia is going to throw a haymaker at both in the near future with a refresh or something. We can shame Nvidia about their performance for the dollar or lack of VRAM, but the one thing Jensen does not like is to lose in actual performance to AMD or Intel. I wouldn't put it past Nvidia to release a 4080 TI or something to remind the market that they are still the overpriced leader.

Happy Birthday @Papusan I hope you found peace and happiness today considering what happened. My condolences.

It's funny that people would claim that GN created these LTT videos to gain subscribers and views. The tech community cheered GN on when they called out Intel, Nvidia, AMD, Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, Newegg, Artesian and other tech companies on their bad products, poor customer service policies and misleading marketing/lies. Yet, when it comes to LMG, which is now considered a major tech company, GN is going for clicks and subscribers. Love him or hate him, Steve has been like this since the beginning of his channel. As I stated in a previous post in this thread, Steve is egotistical. There is no denying that. But, he is one of the few that uses it for the good, not just to line his pockets. Once he makes a monetized video about adding expensive computer/servers in his home to be cooled by his newly made pool, then I will change my tune.

It is all going to blow over shortly. New Hardware from AMD and Intel will mend the wound. The question is will it be infected? Back on topic. When I sell this PC, should I get a pre-owned 4090 due to the voltage limit that is on some of the brand new cards or just try my luck at a retail unit?