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Update on my shenanigans: 1.52v on the RAM was not enough to stabilize my memory overclock. It appeared to be stable but crashed. I tried 1.53v and it still crashed, but took far longer. 1.54v has not crashed after an entire work day doing heavy multiplayer testing on our newest VR basketball title. I'll consider this stable as I was also able to load Mass Effect Andromeda without my system crashing, which usually means my CPU or memory overclock is stable as loading onto that game is a very CPU and memory intensive process. 4200 MHz CL15 DDR4 on a 4 DIMM board is pretty impressive. I don't know if I want to take the IMC voltage any higher than 1.5v long term, but I know these current voltages on the memory and IMC are for sure safe long term. Heh screw it, I'll allow up to 1.55v on the IMC and 1.6v on the memory. Nothing should go wrong, right?🤪 I'm begrudgingly going to be moving to a WIndows 10 22H2 install due to software incompatibilities starting to creep up on me. The WindowsXLite downloads brother @Mr. Fox linked me to seems like they'll perform as well as my 2019 LTSC install, so I'll be satisfied if that's the case. I'm happy windows 10 support will be ending soon ish because I don't want any more dang updates! They're incredibly annoying, and my computers always get these updates and force install them when I'm using the machine, usually in the middle of me working or playing a game. I know that's not supposed to happen, it's supposed to update when I'm away from my machines, but it updates during active use for me, so I'll be really happy when the updates stop for good. The updates don't ever contain anything I care about anyway. Having tested multiple versions of windows myself in games, I can confirm that all this marketing surrounding windows 11 is complete BS. I've tested on multiple laptops, a desktop, and my Legion Go. My framerates are around 20% higher in windows 10 LTSC vs windows 11 across all those devices. It does depend on the game, but that's the performance increase I found on average, with most of my newer games showing a slightly greater than 20% increase in framerates. I'm hoping WindowsXLite Optimum 10 classic gives me that LTSC grade performance. You all know I will be doing my game benchmarks to compare. This is gonna be a fun weekend.

Woo hoo! I tried my hand at memory overclocking for the first time today and was able to successfully get a 5% overclock on the memory speed on my 4 dimm motherboard from 4000 MHz to 4200 MHz. IMC voltage is at 1.5v and the DRAM voltage is at 1.52v. This seems stable. I did at first try my hand at tightening timings but ultimately gave up for now as I couldn't get it stable after messing with them for a few hours, so I instead opted for the brute force approach, which I was successful with. I probably should've gone witht he brute force approach first with me being new to memory overclocking. I'll try my hand at tightening timings again another time. After having used a system with an AMD dGPU for a while and getting used to it's idiosyncrasies, I much prefer AMD graphics cards now. Turns out, my black screen driver crashes that I've spent moths trying to figure out weren't because of AMD's drivers sucking. That was merely a symptom of the root cause, which was memory instability. My XMP profile was unstable at stock IMC voltages. Raising the voltage by 10mv made all the stupid crashes go away. So PSA to those with AMD GPUs, if you experience random black screen crashes, consider raising your IMC voltage just a tad. This made all my headaches go away.

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So I got the Asus XG309CM, and I'm absolutely loving the 220 Hz refresh rate. It's so smooth! Significant improvement over 144 Hz in smoothness and it's starting to get close to looking like real life in terms of motion smoothness. My original reason for getting one is so I can have a flat ultrawide screen since I hate curved screens, and having used a curved ultrawide screen for a while, this flat ultrawide is far better. It's much more comfortable to look at since there's no image distortion (since there's no curve, yay!). Unfortunately because I have now adjusted to the 220 Hz refresh rate and really like its smoothness, my performance requirements have gone up yet again. However, this means I may have a use for dual GPU rigs again, which will be fun to play around with. Lossless Scaling works with a multi GPU setup, so you can render your game with one GPU and then run Lossless Scaling's frame gen on a different GPU. It's essentially like SLI/Crossfire, but better since you get superlinear scaling in most cases (since the frame gen generally takes significantly less processing power than actually rendering a frame), and it works in pretty much any game. The only caveat is input lag, but you probably won't be bothered by it much if your raw framerate is already sufficiently high (in excess of 120 fps), and you will notice the increased smoothness from the higher interpolated framerate much more at this level. Since there's no singular GPU powerful enough to render every game in existence at hundreds of frames a second @ ultrawide 1080p, this is my ticket to lifelike motion in all the games currently in my library, and games I'll be playing in the future. This kind of setup will be especially useful when I inevitably move onto even higher refresh rate monitors (I saw a 480 Hz one, like dang!). Motion clarity at 220 fps is pretty dang good. It's super smooth, but still not as smooth as real life. I don't know what my perception limits are, but I know I'm still not there. Ahh, the sweet dream of planning yet another new build. I guess we're never done here are we? I am currently satisfied with this 220 Hz monitor, but you guys know me and my extremely high requirements. You all KNOW I will eventually get an even higher refresh rate monitor because I want video games to have the exact motion clarity real life does. I demand it because for me, motion smoothness increases immersion for me much more than better colors or higher resolution. Lifelike motion smoothness or close to such is incredibly immersive to me.

Personally I always do my overclocking through Intel XTU so I don't brick my machine if I apply bad settings, plus you can perform adjustments so your setting dynamically. This will depend on your chip's silicon quality, but I can apply a 20mv undervolt at 5.3 GHz with the 10900K currently installed in my laptop (5.4 GHz for the better binned chip in my desktop) and it remains stable for me. Up to 1.5v is a safe 24/7 voltage on this CPU within this laptop. Up to 1.6v is safe if you have really good cooling (like custom water cooling, which we can do on this laptop), so I wouldn't worry about the voltage being 1.3v on your CPU as that's not a super high voltage for this specific generation of CPUs. To answer your question on the sign of the offset (whether it is positive or negative), I'll have to jump in the BIOS and take a look to see where that can be identified. I'm pretty sure there's an option to set the offset sign somewhere. I also have not done that memory overclocking I was going to do over the weekend just yet. Unfortunately enabling the realtime memory tuning option in the BIOS causes the system to not boot, so I can't do that on the fly withing Intel XTU unfortunately.

I'm definitely gonna try that out as I'm starting to run into sofware compatibility issues (both for games and work) with my V1809 LTSC install, so I now have a genuine need for a newer version of windows. Thanks for posting this! I also got an Asus XG309CM monitor and absolutely love the 220 Hz refresh rate. I don't like that the max refresh rate isn't perfectly divisible by 24 or 30 though so I've been looking into some monitor overclocking (which I've done before), but am running into a bit of a snag this time. Apparently, there's a refresh rate limiter on this monitor according to CRU. Does anyone know how to bypass such a thing? I've never seen something like this before on a monitor. I just want to overclock it to 240 Hz, which I think will be doable on this panel.

Stained copper is actually ideal as copper that has had liquid metal leech into it is more thermally conductive than regular copper, although I think this has more to do with the gallium that bonds with the copper filling up the pores on the contact plate, thus making the contact more flat. With the heatsink screw mod performed by zTecpc + my delid and full copper IHS from Rockitcool + liquid metal between the CPU and IHS + liquid metal between the IHS and heatsink + a 20 mv undervolt, I can go up to about a 220 watt load on the CPU side indefinitely without thermal throttling. This is enough of a power and thermal budget to sustain a 5.3-5.4 GHz all core speed in games on either of my 10900Ks indefinitely. And no I don't live in the arctic, I live in a temperate climate. Yeah the only way to get the most out of the CPU in this laptop is through mods. You won't get that stock, but you can get a massive improvement from stock if you put in the effort to do said mods.

I have the PremaMod BIOS on my system but do CPU overclocking through Intel XTU. I do plan on doing some RAM overclocking this weekend as I think I'm starting to get the hang of it from doing it on my desktop. We'll see how it pans out.

Haha yeah that's a good approach in the absence of demos. This really highlights the importance of demos, and I'm not really sure why those mostly went away. After my boss decided we should start offering demos for our games, we got a significant bump in sales. It didn't even require that much effort to make the demos.

My personal policy regarding this matter is to buy the games I want so it pays the devleopers who wrote the game, then I download a cracked version that I can play forever (if necessary) and add that to my vault of offline backups. No moral issue here since I already paid for the game. I'm simply downloading a backup copy that will work forever. As a game dev myself, I have absolutely no problem with people doing that with my games. Fortunately not all games have DRM, so this process isn't necessary for all games. I don't use DRM on my games and never will. It doesn't even prevent piracy so why bother? People who don't want to buy things will never pay for that item. No reason to make things harder for everyone else. DRM is more of a headache than it's worth as it negatively affects honest customers.

Nice RAM overclock! What RAM voltage and what IMC voltage did you need to achieve that?

Good thing I have some Noctua 3000 RPM iPPC fans.🤪

Thanks. I'm going to see what heights I can achieve on this 4 DIMM motherboard then. Overclocking the memory has greatly increased my framerates in newer games (40% increase in performance in games like Control and Shadow of the Tomb Raider) vs what I get on my X170SM-G despite having the same CPU in both systems. Anyone who says memory doesn't matter for gaming performance is grossly misinformed as it makes a very big difference. I saw people saying that 1.35v was the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K 24/7, but these were the same people saying 1.55v on your memory would fry it despite there bing XMP kits rated for that voltage. I wanted a second opinion from someone on these forums as opinions here are very accurate. thanks again!

I finally got around to doing some memory overclocking with my kit. I'm on an MSI Unity Z590 motherboard with a 10900K and am running all 4 of my memory modules at 4100 MHz CL 15. What is the maximum safe voltage for the IMC on a 10900K? I had to raise the IMC voltage up to 1.47v to get this memory overclock stabilized.

The Clevo X170SM-G And X170KM-G also have 4 M.2 slots, with a potential 5th if you replace the wi-fi module with an M.2 2230 SSD.

Me me me! I like poaching used hardware off you guys as I know it's been well taken care of despite being benched on. I also know I'll get the item I paid for. I lurk here like a shark, waiting to chomp on any opportunities that arise. I won't guarantee I'll buy anything, but I definitely want to take a look at what's on offer.

@saturnotaku If this card hasn't been sold yet, I'm interested in purchasing it. How used is the card?

Yeah I don't understand why Intel went the hybrid route on consumer CPUs when they didn't do the same thing on their server class CPUs. It seems very strange to me.

Now THAT'S a proper laptop! That's exactly what I want! Looks like it has a 17 inch screen. It'd be nice if it was an 18 inch screen instead. Optane P5800X as the boot drive with proper desktop hardware inside the chassis? This thing must be screaming fast. Now where can I buy this case? This will be my last laptop as it's forever upgradeable. I'm sitting here thinking about what must be the eye watering price for this thing, but that's just the upfront cost. In the long run, this route is much cheaper than buying a new laptop every 4-5 years. Come to think about it, the kind of laptops I like weren't meant for long batery life and I rarely ever use my laptops on battery power either. If I need to be away from a power outlet for a while, I usually just use my Legion Go instead as it's the more convenient device to use in the case I'm away from a power outlet, but 95% of the time I have access to a power outlet + a desk or table. Dude, I want this thing so badly. Hoppefully there's a way to buy it.

For best results regarding latency, your raw framerate should be 60 fps or higher, and you should be using the DXGI capture API. Also, try using the vsync options built into Lossless Scaling rather than your in game vsync options. Some people have reported running into issues when using the in game vsync settings while using Lossless Scaling. As for the artifacting, are you using any upscaling from Lossless Scaling or just frame generation by itself?

Yeah I find the tool works best when your raw framerate is 60 fps or higher. Any lower than that and the input lag is just too much. Even then, my preference is for the raw framerate to be at least 120 fps. I'm so glad this tool exists as I'll really need it for 240 fps gaming. I've been compiling a list of software tweaks/windows setting changes/overclocking settings over the years to max performance in games. Lossless Scaling is yet another tool to add to that arsenal.

I'm still a bencher/gamer hybrid. My desire to game hasn't waned at all, it's just that I have less time now than before because I have a lot more responsibilities. The upside? OH MY GOODNESS I CAN BUY MY OWN HARDWARE NOW! YES YES YES YES! I still spend time tweaking and tuning cause it's fun, but ultimately my purpose for it is to get max performance in games, a la the Framechasers approach. Icarus continues to fly higher in me as I keep desiring higher and higher framerates. I'll be completely satisfied once the motion clarity looks like real life to me. That point probably won't be until we have a 1000 Hz monitor or something. Maybe I'll be satisfied if the refresh rate is high enough to where it's "good enough" and I won't care much for additional improvements. I'll be moving to a 240 Hz monitor soon as I really like how smooth motion looks on those monitors. I love Micro Center, but sometimes it entices me to spend more money than I need to.🤣 It's all good though as you gotta enjoy life. I'm very blessed to have everything I need, and it helps that I only have 2 hobbies that require me to spend money (computers and video games). As for the point on game performance, yeah I find it ridiculous that today's releases require so much processing power to perform well. Want the secret from an actaul game dev (me!)? The games are just unoptimized. I specifically engineer games to run well on low end systems as doing so expands your potential audience and will make you more money. I don't understand why the big name studios don't seem to understand this. In fact, the studio I work for will be releasing a new game this Thursday, and it runs at 120 fps on a freaking Quest 2! The game has quite a bit of content too. Not everything has to be bleeding edge. Bleeding edge can sometimes also mean unrefined and suboptimal. But hey, this is just my perspective as a high framerate gamer. What do you guys think?

It reports half the framerate since that is your raw framerate, and then your actual framerate will be double that if you selected x2 frame generation since the interpolation will generate the rest of the frames. If you just want to use the frame gen and not use the upscaling feature, you'll want to set the scaling mode to off, scaling mode to custom, and scale factor to 1. That should prevent the game from looking like it's rendering at 480p. Lossless Scaling has its own fps counter that will show you your actual framerate vs RTSS which shows the raw framerate.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/ If it ever feels like it's not working, try a different capture API. DXGI is the most performant, but WGC and GDI may be the only ones that work on certain games.